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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / November 2003"Cat Fiesta"
Does this look nice? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2356344133&category=20740 > Does this look nice? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2356344133&category=20740 yes its is brilliant I have the exact one already paid ?89.00 you do need a lot of space for it though! brought mine a year ago from our local pet store Soozy I can't tell, is it freestanding, or is it a floor-to-ceiling that wedges in with a spring bar? Our room has a vaulted ceiling. If it is freestanding, is it stable? > I can't tell, is it freestanding, or is it a floor-to-ceiling that > wedges in with a spring bar? > > Our room has a vaulted ceiling. > > If it is freestanding, is it stable? free standing, and yes its stable, only 1 of mine uses the hammock, I have put hooks hidden under the platforms to add toys to it, I think it was a really good buy. Soozy mine stands about 5ft high >free standing, and yes its stable, only 1 of mine uses the hammock Oops...scroll down and see the pictures of the tall skinny ones. I think those are the ones being sold, not the one with the hammock. >Oops...scroll down and see the pictures of the tall skinny ones. I >think those are the ones being sold, not the one with the hammock. I think they're pretty neat. My DH spent an entire weekend building an elaborate cat condo, complete with sisal posts and hideout and such, and they only seem to like the perches anyway. It's in front of the window and they love lying on it and looking out. He could have saved a lot of time just building one like that one. Sherry > >Oops...scroll down and see the pictures of the tall skinny ones. I > >think those are the ones being sold, not the one with the hammock. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Sherry yes all my cats use the platforms and posts, we do have a hide-a-way one as well, never seen it being used to be honest, only the scratch post bit! they like to be seen I think, they never hide away, are normally on the bed by my pc in our spare room or on the settee or playing on their fiesta when I am in the lounge. and on our bed of a night time.  SignatureLuv'n'Stuff *~*SooZy*~* New Pictures added every few days http://community.webshots.com/user/ragdollcatsuk @hotmail.com> wrote in message news:pm7nqv87gf2i82p5h36kunodvat7bsnb9m@4ax.com... > >free standing, and yes its stable, only 1 of mine uses the hammock > > Oops...scroll down and see the pictures of the tall skinny ones. I > think those are the ones being sold, not the one with the hammock. oh yes they look like they fit from ceiling to floor, nope mine is the top one >From: "~*SooZy*~" soozyqureshi@cathotmail.com >> I can't tell, is it freestanding, or is it a floor-to-ceiling that >> wedges in with a spring bar? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >mine stands about 5ft high I'm seeing 2 different ones on the site. The first one with the hammock looks free standing, and then if you scroll down, it says "here is the larger picture of what you're buying" and that looks like a floor to ceiling one with a spring bar. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm I think if you are going to get one good cat tree this is probably not the best, especially since you have a vaulted ceiling which makes the tension rod problematic and the tree unstable. I do have several similar trees that I have placed around the house and one of these would be great for another area of your house where you have lower ceilings. I'm sure the cat would have fun climbing it and you don't need to have just one cat tree ;-) Check out the tiered cat condos and similar here: http://www.createacatcondo.com I have the 4 tier condo and it was the best investment I've made and is so well made I have no doubt it will last for many, many years. Also check out this page (there's a pic of the 4 tier condo there) and look at the scratching post. You can get it at Petsmart and it is the perfect height and surface for most cats. I have several of these and my cats use them constantly: http://community.webtv.net/zuzu22/scratch You want to make sure that the tree is sturdy and has comfortable beds on it that your cat can sleep well in. Most cats really seem to like the round beds with the raised edge (which keeps them from falling off, too :-) ) Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > I think if you are going to get one good cat tree this is probably not > the best, especially since you have a vaulted ceiling which makes the [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Megan yes they sure look happy to me playing away, your posts that fit to the ceiling look good :-) we had to get something really study for our cats as 2 x 15 to 20lb Ragdolls climbing up them..... they sure need to be study! LOL SignatureLuv'n'Stuff *~*SooZy*~* New Pictures added every few days http://community.webshots.com/user/ragdollcatsuk >Check out the tiered cat condos and similar here: >http://www.createacatcondo.com Yikes! Pricey! Mitch wrote: >>Check out the tiered cat condos and >>similar here: >>http://www.createacatcondo.com >Yikes! Pricey! Not really, considering the cost *includes* shipping. Considering a good cat tree can last for 10 years or more, I consider a few hundred dollars to be reasonable and justified. I bet you've spent more than that on home brewing supplies. ;-) You can also take a look at Petsmart. They have some pretty good cat trees. I just bought a decent one for $99. It has a round bed on the bottom, a tube in the middle, and another round bed on the top and stands about 5 feet tall. My cats took it over as soon as I got it in the door while it was still in the middle of the living room. :-) Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray >Not really, considering the cost *includes* shipping. Considering a good >cat tree can last for 10 years or more, I consider a few hundred dollars >to be reasonable and justified. The cat trees we've made will probably outlast the house. But it's the carpet that takes the wear and tear. I've begun to really prefer using upholstery material. It also wears out and gets clawed up, but it seems so much easier to replace than the carpet. And if you're so inclined to have your stuff perfectly coordinated and matched (I'm not!).....there's alot of fabric available to choose from. I like the sisal on the post parts, too, it seems more durable. (Does anyone but me collect the claw sheaths off the cat tree? LOL. Thought not.) Sherry <snip> > (Does anyone but me collect the claw sheaths off the cat tree? LOL. Thought > not.) > > Sherry LOL I always pick them up or off and have a look :-) what do you do with them Sherry? :-)) >> (Does anyone but me collect the claw sheaths off the cat tree? LOL. >Thought [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >LOL I always pick them up or off and have a look :-) >what do you do with them Sherry? :-)) LOL here too. I do the same thing. :-) I have a friend who collects whiskers in a little jar though :-) Sherry >. I bet you've spent more than that on >home brewing supplies. ;-) But I still need so much more....! :-) What do you think about their comment: "And: When you teach your cat to scratch on carpet cat furniture, the cat will probably also scratch on the carpet in your home, not only the cat furniture. " Is that true? > What do you think about their comment: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Is that true? Mine don't. Karen > What do you think about their comment: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Is that true? I haven't had any problems like that. Both Duffy and Holly (aka BBC - "beautiful black cat") love the cat tree I got from CreateACatCondo. They play on it, scratch on it, etc. I also have a selection of scratching posts that they use regularly. Duffy even scratches on the horizontal carpet-covered post that I installed above the computer as a "safety rail" (because he would hang off the edge, and since he is blind I was worried that he might sometime fall onto the hard corners of the computer). But: neither cat *ever* scratches on the carpeting on the floor, and neither scratches on furniture. You can see some pictures of Duffy and Holly on their cat tree if you will click on the second link under my signature. There is also a picture that shows how the cat tree is delivered from CreateACatCondo -- it looks sort of like a mummy. It is delivered completely assembled and shipping is included in the cost, so it is not as pricey as it appears when you first look at the prices. I sound like a salesperson for them, but this really is the sturdiest and best-made cat tree I have seen. MaryL (take out the litter to reply) Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'< http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") > What do you think about their comment: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Is that true? I don't believe that to be the case in my experience. When they scratch the carpet on a scratching post, they are marking it with scent glands in their paw pads. They will continue to go back to again and again. I've also heard its a good idea to leave a scratching post all narled and stringy because it is satisfying to them to see what they've accomplished. lol I have no problems with cats scratching the carpet or anything else for that matter. Now. I used to but the oldest was retrained and the new ones "copied offa him". So if I get a fancy "cat condo" so she can scratch as well as perch, how many other small scratching posts should I have throughout the house? I'd plan to put her litter box on the upper floor, condo and food on the main floor, and we also spend time in the basement, which is finished. Another claw question (remember, I'm new to cat behavior), when she's content, she "kneads" her paws/claws. I know she's just being happy, but it hurts the legs when she's in your lap. Can a cat be made to understand that her claws cause pain, or do you just get used to it? My son got an awakening today. He was trying to get her to play with a little stuffed animal. When she finally did make a grab for it, he wasn't ready, and ended up with a Band-Aid. I think he respects the claws now. :-) > So if I get a fancy "cat condo" so she can scratch as well as perch, > how many other small scratching posts should I have throughout the > house? Here is what I have for three cats: *Cat tree (the big investment but IMO the best. Seeing how they tear it up shows me what they *could have* torn up) They not only scratch, climb and play on it, they lounge and sleep on it. 4 curved perches. Placed in the main living area. I've recently furnished my lower level of my house (leather sectional) and need to get a new cat tree for down here. They don't scratch the leather sectional at all. Don't even sleep on it. *One 3' scratching post (home made, portable so it moves to any corner of the couch that suddenly seems attractive to my oldest, Shadow. He quickly *remembers*) *Two 2' sisal posts with very heavy base. (again, portable to move to couch corners if necessary). One upstairs, one downstairs. The one downstairs has a boingy springy toy attached to the top. *Two "turbo scratchers" (do a google), one upstairs, one downstairs. *One "alpine scratcher" hot glued to a piece of wood for stability. (google it) *One cheapie cat condo at the foot of my bed to prevent scratching on the mattress (works like a charm) I spent less than $500, and the turbo scratchers and alpine scratcher have refills for when they are deemed useless. My furniture, $3000 at least not counting the bed (which used to get scratched before accomidating that *need*. No comparison. > I'd plan to put her litter box on the upper floor, condo and food on > the main floor, and we also spend time in the basement, which is > finished. Make sure you place a very attractive perch or cat tree in the area of the house where you spend the most time. It's like *their chair*. Something they know is theirs. > Another claw question (remember, I'm new to cat behavior), when > she's content, she "kneads" her paws/claws. I know she's just > being happy, but it hurts the legs when she's in your lap. Can a > cat be made to understand that her claws cause pain, or do you just > get used to it? This is a tough one. I can't say you get used to it but I think if you clip the claws on a regular basis it doesn't hurt as much. If it hurts, say OWW loudly. They really do learn. :) > My son got an awakening today. He was trying to get her to play > with a little stuffed animal. When she finally did make a grab for > it, he wasn't ready, and ended up with a Band-Aid. I think he > respects the claws now. :-) Respect is a good thing! Kids and cats can get along, just like kids and dogs. How old is your son? I think kids need supervision around animals for both creatures sakes. Of course things can happen very quickly but I think most cats in general try to avoid something if they know they can't anticipate what is going to happen. So if your cat got spooked, also, he may be hesitant to approach your son until he gets some trust back again. Keeping the claws clipped to a blunt end is the key until everyone understands everyone. :) > Another claw question (remember, I'm new to cat behavior), when she's > content, she "kneads" her paws/claws. I know she's just being happy, > but it hurts the legs when she's in your lap. Can a cat be made to > understand that her claws cause pain, or do you just get used to it? Trim her claws every few weeks. Also, you may want to keep a towel or small blanket beside your chair. You can gently pull that under he claws to give you some extra padding. MaryL > So if I get a fancy "cat condo" so she can scratch as well as perch, > how many other small scratching posts should I have throughout the > house? I have a big tree and three smaller ones about waist high. I have three cats. Whatever you do, put them in areas where it is OUT. They won't use them in hidden corners, because that is not where they are. > I'd plan to put her litter box on the upper floor, condo and food on > the main floor, and we also spend time in the basement, which is > finished. > Another claw question (remember, I'm new to cat behavior), when she's > content, she "kneads" her paws/claws. I know she's just being happy, > but it hurts the legs when she's in your lap. Can a cat be made to > understand that her claws cause pain, or do you just get used to it? If she scatches yell OW!!! Really loud. THey learn fast that this is a painful thing for you. You'd be surprised. My big boy is SO gentle with his claws. > My son got an awakening today. He was trying to get her to play with > a little stuffed animal. When she finally did make a grab for it, he > wasn't ready, and ended up with a Band-Aid. I think he respects the > claws now. :-) That's usually the way scratches happen. It's a good way to learn respect fast. Karen |
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