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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / November 2003No food till morning after dental?
Poor Shamrock. He was still out of it when he got home after having his teeth cleaned today and I've kept him downstairs so he wouldn't attempt the stairs in his wobbly state. The orders were "no food, ice chips if he wants water". Well he is very hungry since not eating since last night. He's not a big eater, any way. Does anyone know why the order is still for no food even if he is starting to act normal now? I won't go against the vets orders but I'm just curious. I didn't get to pick him up tonight until after the vet left for the night and I didn't get an explanation. >From: "Cheryl" jlhshadow@devnull.hotmail.com >Poor Shamrock. He was still out of it when he got home after having >his teeth cleaned today and I've kept him downstairs so he wouldn't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >didn't get to pick him up tonight until after the vet left for the >night and I didn't get an explanation. I'm trying to remember with the last cat I had a dental for whether or not they were allowed to eat when I brought them home. Did Shamrock just have a cleaning, or were there extractions? I'm thinking that maybe the vet wants the anesthesia out of his system more before he eats so as no to upset his tummy or to prevent vomitting. Healing purrs to Shamrock, Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > I'm trying to remember with the last cat I had a dental for whether > or not they were allowed to eat when I brought them home. Did > Shamrock just have a cleaning, or were there extractions? I'm > thinking that maybe the vet wants the anesthesia out of his system > more before he eats so as no to upset his tummy or to prevent > vomitting. No extractions but he had a varnish or something (I can't go look at his record because he is finally sleeping with his head on my lap). He's really been a mess since he got home. Meowing and running around with his head *way* up in the air. I suspect he was seeing double. > Healing purrs to Shamrock, We both gratefully accept purrs. This is his first of what will be probably many of these if he already had gingivitis at a young age. But they sold me some enzyme that you put in water, again, I can't go look at it. We're going to have to get vigilant with teeth brushing. >> I'm trying to remember with the last cat I had a dental for whether >> or not they were allowed to eat when I brought them home. Did [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > But they sold me some enzyme that you put in water, again, I can't go > look at it. We're going to have to get vigilant with teeth brushing. If it happens too frequently, you might consider getting his back teeth out. Grants would get bad again in 6 months. My vet had done about 15 other cats this bad, taking out back molars. He has not had gingivitis since. She kept him three days, but it has been worth it. I met another woman with a cat with the same problem and same solution and she said it was the best thing she could have done. Karen > If it happens too frequently, you might consider getting his back > teeth out. Grants would get bad again in 6 months. My vet had done [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > same solution and she said it was the best thing she could have > done. Thanks Karen. I will remember this if it becomes chronic or something. > But they sold me some enzyme that you put in water, again, I can't go > look at it. We're going to have to get vigilant with teeth brushing. Wish you could have seen me with Cheeks last week, having a go at brushing with the soft rubber fingertip brush and "chicken flavored enzymatic toothpaste." She has gotten better about allowing it gradually, and seems to like the flavor. I hope it is helping. In our case it is a preventive measure, as I will not let them anesthetize her and clean her teeth at the vet. > Wish you could have seen me with Cheeks last week, having a go at > brushing [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > will not let them > anesthetize her and clean her teeth at the vet. The anesthesia is so hard on them even healthy! At least it seemed that way for Shamrock. I hope it works out for sweet Cheeks. :) I've tried the finger brush a few times with Shamrock but now I'm going to get one of the CET brushes. >> From: "Cheryl" jlhshadow@devnull.hotmail.com > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html > Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm That's what I'm thinking. You could try a little and wait and see if it upsets him and if not, I would feed him. I don't recall being given that order after anesthesia before. Hope he is feeling better soon! Karen > That's what I'm thinking. You could try a little and wait and see if it > upsets him and if not, I would feed him. I don't recall being given that > order after anesthesia before. Hope he is feeling better soon! > > Karen I was also thinking that the no food orders had to do with the anesthesia, but I just had a thought that it might have something to do with the varnish thing that was done. It may take a longer time to set up and food or water may affect the finish. Makes more sense when considering that ice chips, though not water, were allowed. Very little liquid would be picked up by licking the ice chips, so would not have as much of a negative effect on the varnish. Just my 2 cents...I hope Shamrock is doing well! rona  Signature***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** > I was also thinking that the no food orders had to do with the > anesthesia, but I just had a thought that it might have something > to do with the varnish thing that was done. It may take a longer > time to set up and food or water may affect the finish. That never occurred to me. Hmm... I hope I didn't mess things up. He only ate about a quarter can last night. Today his appetite is back to normal. I never got the chance to call the vet today; day full of meetings and on a FRIDAY! :( > That never occurred to me. Hmm... I hope I didn't mess things up. He > only ate about a quarter can last night. It was probably the anesthesia thing so worry too much about it. Keep in mind my theory was a very uneducated guess and I have no knowledge of anything about cleaning cats' teeth and the processes involved. Heck, my cat has never even had her teeth cleaned, unless you count her vet flicking off tartar with his fingernails :-). >Today his appetite is back > to normal. I never got the chance to call the vet today; day full of > meetings and on a FRIDAY! :( Glad to hear his appetite is normal again! That's definitely a good thing! Busy Fridays suck, but then you appreciate the weekend so much more :-)! rona Signature***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** >From: darnit7@aol.comnolitter (PawsForThought) >I'm trying to remember with the last cat I had a dental for whether or not >they >were allowed to eat when I brought them home. Lauren, I thought your cats didn't need dentals because of their diet? Which is it? >From: gaubster2@aol.com (GAUBSTER2) >>From: darnit7@aol.comnolitter (PawsForThought) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Lauren, I thought your cats didn't need dentals because of their diet? Which >is it? I guess your comprehension problems know no bounds. If it were my present cats, I would certainly remember when their last dental was, since they've never needed one. The last dental was for my Rainbow Bridge kitty, Queenie. Now go away little troll ;) Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm >>Lauren, I thought your cats didn't need dentals because of their diet? >Which >>is it? > >I guess your comprehension problems know no bounds. >If it were my present >cats, I would certainly remember when their last dental was, since they've >never needed one. Now how would I know that? I don't know you personally. I ask a simple question and I get called a troll. You conduct is very disappointing. :( >Now go away little troll ;) >From: gaubster2@aol.com (GAUBSTER2) >>>Lauren, I thought your cats didn't need dentals because of their diet? >>Which [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Now how would I know that? I don't know you personally. I ask a simple >question and I get called a troll. You conduct is very disappointing. :( I only base my conduct on your replies to me. You have never replied nicely once to any of my posts so how do you expect me to react? ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm >>Now how would I know that? I don't know you personally. I ask a simple >>question and I get called a troll. You conduct is very disappointing. :( > >I only base my conduct on your replies to me. You have never replied nicely >once to any of my posts so how do you expect me to react? Lauren, you don't remember very well "in the beginning". I tried a couple of times to be nice and after finding you to be rude, insulting, and your posts against Hill's to be "suspicious", I decided being nice to you didn't get me very far. Give a little respect and you'll get a little! Just because you see my name at the top of a post doesn't mean you have to respond w/ a snotty remark! > Poor Shamrock. He was still out of it when he got home after having > his teeth cleaned today and I've kept him downstairs so he wouldn't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > didn't get to pick him up tonight until after the vet left for the > night and I didn't get an explanation. After sedation some cats barf. Some people barf too! Over my 15 years with cats and having had them sedated for whatever reason, there has been no barf. I understood that barfing might be a possibility and was prepared. Spatulas are great barf picker uppers and I was prepared. If your cat is hungry - feed him. If he barfs - get the spatula out. :c) > After sedation some cats barf. Some people barf too! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > If your cat is hungry - feed him. If he barfs - get the spatula > out. :c) Thanks, Judy. None of my other cats have ever needed dentals. Shadow with all his problems still has great teeth. Marley (RB) at 13 never had reason for a dental. Shamrock at 2 yo has gingivitis. His teeth were really nasty and his breath stunk. The more I think about the water additive, I think I'm going to return it. He eats only wet food and barely drinks water at all. They had a spray that I might try instead, but will probably just get him used to getting his teeth brushed. Do you brush your cats teeth and if so, how often? > > After sedation some cats barf. Some people barf too! > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > instead, but will probably just get him used to getting his teeth > brushed. Do you brush your cats teeth and if so, how often? Hi Cheryl, Yes - I do brush Matilda's teeth - she's my current who came to me with red gums at the age of 3 months. The vet suggested brushing so I do this two to three times a week and the results have been positive. Thankfully she's pretty agreeable to this, and as well to nail trimmings. Not long ago she returned from 20 days at the kennel with a case of feline acne - so now some of our trips to the "bathroom" have been a combination of things. Judy << Does anyone know why the order is still for no food even if he is starting to act normal now? I won't go against the vets orders but I'm just curious. I didn't get to pick him up tonight until after the vet left for the night and I didn't get an explanation. >> Hmmm, no, I've never had that order after my cats have had dentals. I think the vet said no dry food for a few hours but they came home and ate right away and didn't get sick...wet food. Poor guy, when can he eat again and what's a "varnish" anyway? Sounds cosmetic, do cats get cosmetic dental work done? Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely) > Hmmm, no, I've never had that order after my cats have had dentals. > I think the vet said no dry food for a few hours but they came home > and ate right away and didn't get sick...wet food. I talked to someone who said if he's acting ok and hungry to feed him a little wet food. He ate some and seems fine for now. So much for going against the orders. :( He's such a light eater as it is I hate for him to go hungry. Poor guy, when > can he eat again and what's a "varnish" anyway? The orders said he could eat tomorrow morning. That would be 36 hours without food and that made me nervous. The varnish is apparently for a broken fang. His vet told me at one of the last visits the tooth was broken and judging by the $10 fee for it, it was probably just for that tooth but I don't know. Will have to call tomorrow. I expected she would extract it but I guess the varnish protects it? Sounds cosmetic, > do cats get cosmetic dental work done? LOL Even I have to think about cosmetic work for a bit on my own teeth.. hehe >I talked to someone who said if he's acting ok and hungry to feed him >a little wet food. He ate some and seems fine for now. So much for >going against the orders. :( He's such a light eater as it is I hate >for him to go hungry. I recall with my previous cat, I was told not to give her any food until the next morning after her dental work. She was so groggy when I brought her home I laid her in her cat bed to let her recover. Not too long later I found that she had wobbled to her food bowl and gobbled down quite a bit of food when I wasn't looking. I called the vet in a panic, but they said that cats usually don't want to eat right after a dental. If she did, however, it would do no harm. So I think if a cat wants to eat, it's okay. > I recall with my previous cat, I was told not to give her any food > until the next morning after her dental work. She was so groggy [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > however, it would do no harm. So I think if a cat wants to eat, > it's okay. When I dropped him off yesterday morning I knew I couldn't pick him up until late so I brought a can of his favorite food to see if they would give him some when he came out of the anesthesia a little bit and they laughed at me. LOL Thanks for sharing your experiences, and everyone else, too. >Does anyone know why >the order is still for no food even if he is starting to act normal >now? I won't go against the vets orders but I'm just curiou I adopted an 18 year old cat. They told me he was five! The day I adopted him I took him to the vet who told me he had no teeth, just exposed roots! He suggested removing all the exposed roots. I did. He just had his four fangs left, they fell out later. He came home after surgery walking fine. Vet told me to let him eat whatever he wanted. I gave him wet food. He ate that. Then he ate the dry kibble I kept out for my other cats! He was so happy to not have exposed roots, he would have eaten anything. Perhaps your vet is just trying to be super safe for legal reasons. My kitties have always been starving after dental. A day with no food makes a hungry kitty. >> Does anyone know why >> the order is still for no food even if he is starting to act normal >> now? I won't go against the vets orders but I'm just curiou > > I adopted an 18 year old cat. They told me he was five! Yikes! I know it's hard to judge a cats age but that's the biggest error I've heard of. The day I > adopted him I took him to the vet who told me he had no teeth, just > exposed roots! He suggested removing all the exposed roots. I did. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > always been starving after dental. A day with no food makes a > hungry kitty. In the rescue group I used to volunteer for there were a few cats without any teeth. They didn't seem bothered by it or have any problem eating. Shamrock is doing fine today. :) Oh, I hope he's feeling better. Good thing he has mom to comfort him during his "bad high". tee hee hee. give him a hug. K > Poor Shamrock. He was still out of it when he got home after having > his teeth cleaned today and I've kept him downstairs so he wouldn't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > didn't get to pick him up tonight until after the vet left for the > night and I didn't get an explanation. |
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