Hello,
I posted several days ago about our cat Ginger who had been diagnosed with
acute pancreatitus. There are new findings now that challenge that initial
diagnosis, but also may support it. I know I am repeating some of what I
discussed in the pancreatitus thread. But I think my update got lost in the
food wars discussion that followed. I'm afraid that she is dying and would
appreciate some on-topic advice.
After Ginger's initial bout with what appeared to be acute pancreatitus that
occurred about one month ago, she recovered well, gained weight, ate very
well, and had returned to her normal self. Suddenly, over the period of 1
day, she developed inappetence and started to vomit again. The vomit is
generally very large amounts of clear fluid and some food if she had been
eating and will occur 3-4 times/day. When in this state she looses all
interest in food, but she does continue to drink water. She did have
diarrhea one day, but generally her bowel movements are normal but less
frequent due to her inappetence. Also, when in this state, she has
unusually loud bowel sounds. Another observation is that when this first
occurred we noticed a small dark smudge on her nose. When she recovered it
went away. Now that she's sick again, it has returned. Histoplasmosis?
She does not have any respiratory symptoms or fever. She is not currently
on any medication. Just as suddenly as this comes on, it goes away and she
starts eating again.
A new sonogram performed this weekend revealed a focal thickening of
intestinal wall with possible diagnoses of focal neoplasia - adenocarcinoma,
GI lymphosarcoma, leiomyosarcoma, chronic intussusception, or severe
parasite burden. Another possibility that I believe should not be ruled out
is IBD. The cyclical nature of this disease seems to be more consistent
with her symptoms compared to the neoplastic differentials. And maybe she
really did have pancreatitus last month that was secondary to IBD. I also
know that thyroid disease can cause vomiting, diarrhea, and inappetence.
We had considered the possibility that she could have been poisoned, as
there was some correlation with her symptoms and going outside. But, now
this last time that she got sick, she had not been outside at all.
The only recommendation from all the vets that have seen her at this point
is exploratory surgery. This has obvious risks for an 11-year old,
emaciated cat. It still may be the right thing to do, but it requires
making a tough choice. If we decide to go ahead with the surgery, we would
ask the vet to not resuscitate if extensive cancer was found. That would
mean having to say goodbye rather soon. Other than the days when she
experiences the vomiting, she does not appear to be in any significant
discomfort. We've been through this before with another cat, and based on
how she feels now it is not time to say goodbye. On the other hand, if we
choose not to have the surgery, we may then be denying her a viable
treatment option, especially if her condition turns out to be something like
IBD that at least has the potential for long-term management. Can IBD be
effectively diagnosed w/o surgery? There seems to be some disagreement on
the effectiveness of full thickness biopsies taken during celiotomy vs.
endoscopic samplings. It's my understanding that you can't get past the
duodenum with the scope, so if the disease is past that point, you won't
learn anything. What's the best approach for a cat in this condition? Can
the ultrasound tape help pinpoint the location of the thickening so that it
would be possible to know if it could be visualized with the scope? Any
other suggestions would be appreciated.
--Dave
Annie Wxill - 31 Oct 2003 16:13 GMT
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Dave,
I wish I could offer helpful advice, but the best I can do is send sympathy
and supportive thoughts.
Well, maybe I do have a suggestion. If there is a vet school anywhere
within your reach, see if you can get an appointment for an examination for
your cat.
We were impressed with Texas A&M University vet school in College Station
when Moxie had symptoms of liver and pancreas problems last year. We had to
drive several hours to get there, but we would not hesitate to go back if we
needed to. Our vet referred us when Moxie's ultrasound showed that she had
problems.
To make a long story short, we got lucky and Moxie recovered from that
episode with only amoxicillin as a treatment. We weren't so lucky last
summer when she became sick again and died in spite of our efforts. Due to
circumstances beyond our control, we were not able to get her to the vet
school.
Good luck with your cat. You certainly are facing a difficult decision as to
what gives her the best chance.
Annie
Karen M. - 31 Oct 2003 19:05 GMT
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> Annie
I'll just second Annie and send some good thoughts too...
Karen
Bonnie Forman - 31 Oct 2003 22:09 GMT
Dave -
I'm going through a similar situation as you. My cat, Ender, was also
diagnosed with pancreatitis a few weeks ago, based on the blood test
results, and classic symptoms of lethargy, vomiting (sometimes clear
liquidy, sometimes yellowish or brownish liquidy), loss of appetite
(although still drinking water). Anti-nausea pills and small meals of
low fiber food (A/D via syringe) did not have any positive results.
Another x-ray taken showed some type of mass around the intestines.
Biopsy was done - and initial results pointed to Lymphoma, however when
the results were sent to a lab, they came back negative for lymphoma.
I have a copy of the pathology report - it's very technical, but
basically the results point to ' eosinophilic lymphadentis' which may
be due to an allergic reaction to some kind of parasite (this is an
indoor-only cat!). The second possibility mentioned is
'Hypereosinophilic Syndrome' which would be very bad (very rare and
usually fatal).
Ender spent 3 days in the hospital getting fluid treatment (he was
severally dehydrated). Vet is treating it for the allergy (hoping) with
a strong steriod (depomedrol) via injection which we hoped would lead to
an improvement within a few days (reduce the inflamation and enlarged
lymph nodes and pancreas). So far, it's been 3 days, with no change.
I'm at my wits end. I'll be bringing Ender back to the vet. He's so
sad. Not sure what the next step will be.
Good luck to you and your kitty! ... and to me and mine....
Bonnie
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Cheryl - 01 Nov 2003 04:47 GMT
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I can only say that I feel for you and the decisions you have to make.
Please know that what you do is based on love and I think anyone who
has read your posts know you have love and the best interest of your
cat in mind.
MaryL - 01 Nov 2003 09:20 GMT
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Dave,
Do you live within driving distance of a veterinary school? Several months
ago, I took Duffy to an ophthalmologist at Texas A&M College of Veterinary
Medicine. He received a careful evaluation, and the veterinarian spent a
considerable amount of time explaining his condition to me. This is a
teaching hospital, so he was seen by an ophthalmologist accompanied by an
assistant and several interns (for obseration). I was very impressed with
the quality of care, the facility, the caring attitude -- and even the fee,
which considered to be *more* than reasonable. I think it would be
worthwhile for you to investigate the possibility of taking Ginger to a
veterinary college for evaluation and advice. I don't have any knowledge of
pancreatitis (or the other possibilities you mentioned), but there would be
specialists available if you have access to this type of facility.
You have my very best wishes. I know this is a difficult and heartbreaking
time for you.
MaryL