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mr cat - 30 Oct 2003 02:28 GMT
Long time......no post.  I guess that means everyone is well.  Not to
be fair weathered friend.

We are moving to a condo on the 12th floor.  The bldg is very
particular about making any changes to the balcony, so an enclosure
would have to "blend in".

The space is long and narrow - probably 20ft long by 6 ft wide.  The
railing is new - clear plexiglass with a 6-8" gap at the bottom to
allow for drainage.  The top rail isn't wide enough for a cat to sit
on (or try).

I'm looking for any ideas or products on the market that would allow
me to discretely fence in a portion of the balcony to allow my cat
access.  She currently has 24hr access to a 3rd floor wood balcony
that I have been able to "cat proof".  

She seems to enjoy the fresh air and the ability to look out on what
is going on beneath here.

I don't want to make ANY chance of her falling off the balcony, so if
there is anything such as a fool-proof cat proof balcony enclosures
(that the Home Owners Association only notice) we would be forever
grateful.

We move on Thurs and she'll have to stay inside until we find (if) a
solution.

Many thanks.
Phil P. - 30 Oct 2003 04:04 GMT
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> me to discretely fence in a portion of the balcony to allow my cat
> access.

You might want to go to Home Depot and take at look at the construction
screening.  Its black, and hardly noticeable beyond 10-20 feet; its *made of
nylon and *very* strong and flexible.

Phil.
Mr B - 31 Oct 2003 17:41 GMT
Just let the cat out.  he's not stupid enough to jump down from that high I would hope.  We let our
cats out on our second story balcony and they could have jumped down at any time if they were dumb
enough.  But that never happened.  Can't imagine they woudl want to try from 12 stories up.

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kaeli - 31 Oct 2003 18:42 GMT
> Just let the cat out.  he's not stupid enough to jump down from that high I would hope.  

Mine were (2nd floor).

About 3 years ago, my poor, departed, sweet but stupid, Julian fell off
trying to fit his fat a.s on the tiny ledge on the other side of the
railing (he went through the grate/bars). A year later, the dork tried
to jump on top of the inch-wide railing. He missed. I only turned my
back an instant in both cases. He wasn't hurt, but he scared the holy
hell out of me.
Last year, Rowan came *this* close to going over. She was trying to
catch a bird. If I hadn't caught her (literally), she'd have vaulted
right over the railing.

The thing is, Julian never *tried* to jump down. He fell, both times.

Cats aren't always the brightest or the most agile. Some are more like
Garfield. *g*

The kids now have a nice enclosure on the balcony if they'd care to be
out there.

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Instant Karma - 31 Oct 2003 23:49 GMT
>Just let the cat out.  he's not stupid enough to jump down from that high I would hope.  We let our
>cats out on our second story balcony and they could have jumped down at any time if they were dumb
>enough.  But that never happened.  Can't imagine they woudl want to try from 12 stories up.

http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=companionlines_cats5
http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/4114/righting.html
http://www.metpet.com/Reference/Cats/Behavior/highrise_syndrome.htm
http://co.pinal.az.us/AnimalControl/column/archive/pdf/1999/01Sept99.pdf
http://www.charmcats.org/highrise.html
http://www.petplace.com/Articles/artShow.asp?artID=2570

etc., etc., etc. About 15 seconds in Google.

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MaryL - 01 Nov 2003 21:36 GMT
> Just let the cat out.  he's not stupid enough to jump down from that high I would hope.  We let our
> cats out on our second story balcony and they could have jumped down at any time if they were dumb
> enough.  But that never happened.  Can't imagine they woudl want to try from 12 stories up.

I strongly disagree with this advice.  Yes, cats are agile and intelligent;
but many have jumped or fallen from great distances (sometimes with tragic
consequences).  By all means, please continue with your plans to find a way
to make the balcony cat-proof.  Here is one suggestion:  my brother and
sister-in-law enclosed their yard with fencing that is designed to keep deer
out.  It is a type of mesh that is barely visible.  In fact, people who use
it for deer (as they do) have to place a horizontal pole at the top so that
it will be visible to the deer.  You, of course, would not need to do that.
I am attaching links to two sites that include a pictures.  It can easily be
cut, so you could "size" it for your cat.  You can find other similar
products by typing "deer fencing" for a google search.  You might even be
able to find a similar product at places like Loew's or Home Depot.

http://www.bennersgardens.com/bg/

Also:
http://www.deerxlandscape.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/BlankPage4.html?sid=8k@7qS0mc2qA4u2

or use this for a shorter URL:  http://tinyurl.com/t9z2

MaryL
Cheryl - 03 Nov 2003 00:38 GMT
> http://www.bennersgardens.com/bg/
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> Also:

http://www.deerxlandscape.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/BlankPage4.html?sid=8k@7qS0mc
2qA4u2

> or use this for a shorter URL:  http://tinyurl.com/t9z2

Exactly the same material I used for an on-the-ground enclosure.
www.friendlyfence.com
Anchovy - 07 Nov 2003 13:26 GMT
Hi .
I had a cat in a flat with a balcony for 6 years. I had no screening
and the cat was fine.
Anchovy - 07 Nov 2003 13:30 GMT
Hmm. On further reading of this thread, maybe I /the cat was lucky.
Sara - 03 Nov 2003 22:21 GMT
>We are moving to a condo on the 12th floor.  The bldg is very
>particular about making any changes to the balcony, so an enclosure
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>access.  She currently has 24hr access to a 3rd floor wood balcony
>that I have been able to "cat proof".  

I had a "kitty pen" made out of an upstairs deck (small, maybe 10' by
10') that has an aluminum roof.  The carpenter built frames that slip
under the railing, other ones that attach to the overhang.
Insect-proofing was not a requirement, so we put 1/2 inch screening on
the frames.  The frames are removeable and the whole thing could be
dismantled in maybe an hour.  Cost was reasonable, and would have been
even more so if I was handy enough to do it myself.   The cats love
being "outside" and I love them being safe!
Hope this helps - Sara
 
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