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I Just Pulled Something Out Of My Cat's Butt

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guynoir - 25 Oct 2003 22:53 GMT
At first I thought it was a sesame seed and tossed it into the sink.
Then I thought, "I better take a look at that" and picked it up.  It
started energetically crawling around on my finger.

http://home.teleport.com/~guynoir/webimages/livestock/worm.JPG

Some kind of pseudopod propels it from its back end, and some kind of
proboscis extends from the front.

Anyone know what it is and how contagious it might be?

Thanks,

John Kimmel
guy****@teleport.com
Martini - 25 Oct 2003 22:58 GMT
>At first I thought it was a sesame seed and tossed it into the sink.
>Then I thought, "I better take a look at that" and picked it up.  It
>started energetically crawling around on my finger.
>
>http://home.teleport.com/~guynoir/webimages/livestock/worm.JPG

sounds like a segment of a tapeworm to me. Your cat most probably
needs veterinary treatment.

Marta
Cat Protector - 25 Oct 2003 22:58 GMT
Sounds like you've been watching too much of the Matrix.

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> At first I thought it was a sesame seed and tossed it into the sink.
> Then I thought, "I better take a look at that" and picked it up.  It
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> John Kimmel
> guy****@teleport.com
Karen M. - 26 Oct 2003 00:54 GMT
LOL!!!

> Sounds like you've been watching too much of the Matrix.
Cathy Friedmann - 25 Oct 2003 23:01 GMT
Cat needs vet appoint; & a worming med (from the vet) would be a guess.

Cathy

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> At first I thought it was a sesame seed and tossed it into the sink.
> Then I thought, "I better take a look at that" and picked it up.  It
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> John Kimmel
> guy****@teleport.com
MaryL - 25 Oct 2003 23:19 GMT
> At first I thought it was a sesame seed and tossed it into the sink.
> Then I thought, "I better take a look at that" and picked it up.  It
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> John Kimmel
> guy****@teleport.com

Probably tapeworm.  Take a fecal sample (as fresh as possible) to your vet.

Easily treated, but does need to be seen by a vet.

MaryL
guynoir - 25 Oct 2003 23:31 GMT
The Wonderful World of Worms

Thank god for the internet.  My two favorite cat health web pages have
the answer:  Dipylidium caninum.

http://www.fabcats.org/
http://www.vet.cornell.edu/consultant/Consult.asp?Fun=Home

> At first I thought it was a sesame seed and tossed it into the sink.
> Then I thought, "I better take a look at that" and picked it up.  It
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> John Kimmel
> guy****@teleport.com
m. L. Briggs - 25 Oct 2003 23:45 GMT
>The Wonderful World of Worms
>
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>> John Kimmel
>> guy****@teleport.com
m. L. Briggs - 26 Oct 2003 18:42 GMT
>The Wonderful World of Worms
>
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>> John Kimmel
>> guy****@teleport.com

If your smart enough to know those names, you should be smart enough
to know he need to see the Vet!
Rona Yuthasastrakosol - 01 Nov 2003 16:00 GMT
> Anyone know what it is and how contagious it might be?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Kimmel
> guy****@teleport.com

It's very contagious.  As a matter of fact, you might want to get out a
mirror and check your own a-hole.  You probably have a few crawling out
right now.

If you're going to troll, it would be much better if you at least change
your name.  sheesh!

rona
guynoir - 03 Nov 2003 08:17 GMT
You should take your own advice, Rona Yuthasastrakosol.

Although deliberately false, and maliciously given, your response was no
more worthless than any of the well intentioned responses to my original
post.  I normally wouldn't bother responding to such a trollish post,
but I wanted to correct the disinformation you've published worldwide.

And speaking of parasites, the correct answers are:

Yes, it's a tapeworm, or specifically, the gravid proglottids from a
Dipylidium Caninum tapeworm.  I found the answer here, within about half
an hour after my original post:
http://www.fabcats.org/
http://www.vet.cornell.edu/consultant/Consult.asp?Fun=Home

Neither web reference is very non-vet friendly, so it was difficult to
determine the seriousness of the condition, and the risk of contagion,
but I inferred that both were low.

After about a day, the responses to my original post were:  "Take it to
the vet." "Take it to the vet asap."  "Take it to the vet immediately,
you lousy cat hating animal abusing troll."  And:  "It's a tapeworm."
(Maybe I read a little too much into some of the responses).

On another thread, the one about the kitten's "changing lower lip", I
found a link to yet another veterenary diagonistic site:
http://www.marvistavet.com/
Which led me to this page all about common tapeworms:
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/tapeworm.html

This page has a diagram showing exactly what I saw around my cat's butt,
and explicitly described in a followup post.  Both my post and the web
page mention that the best time to witness worms crawling out of the
cat's (or dog's) a.shole is while it's taking a nap.  The web page also
informed me that the condition is not life threatening, or even health
threatening for the cat.  Nor is it directly contagious, since the only
way to get a tapeworm is if you eat a flea containg a tapeworm larva.  I
still checked my own a.shole pretty thoroughly, though.

I had a whole weekend to research tapeworms, and on Monday I learned
that the tapeworm medicine is readily available over the counter, so I
didn't even need to take the cat to a vet.  Since there was no urgency
to treat the condition, I gave the cats a flea treatment to reduce the
likelihood of re-infection.  I waited a few days, then administered the
tapeworm pills.  As of Friday, no more proglottids.

Finally, the "marvistavet" web page recommends treating only the pets
with obvious infestation, and then re-treating only when infestation has
obviously returned.

As Rona Yuthasastrakosol figured out, my original post was, for
practical purposes, trolling.  I never expected any worthwhile
responses.  I didn't get any worthwhile responses.  But I did post
followup reports with more information as I learned it, accurate to the
best of my knowledge.

There are a very few people regularly posting to this newsgroup who:

A.  Answer the question.
B.  Supplement the answer with personal experience and,
C.  Substantiate the answer with references.

Answers and advice are worthless without B and/or C.  The generic answer
"Take the cat to the vet" is universally worthless.

I've learned a lot about cat health and behavior from this newsgroup.
There's a lot of garbage to sort through, idiots who post deliberatly
misleading information, for example, but computers are good at sorting
garbage and filtering idiots.  I try to post useful information and have
fun while I'm doing it.  I hope that cat-owners around the world are
even now lifting their napping cats' tails and checking them for worms
because of what I've posted here and previously.  And if they find
worms, they need not panic and rush the animal to an emergency clinic.

> It's very contagious.  As a matter of fact, you might want to get out a
> mirror and check your own a-hole.  You probably have a few crawling out
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>
> rona

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I saw a creature, naked, bestial,
Who, squatting upon the ground,
Held his heart in his hands,
And ate of it.
I said, "Is it good, friend?"
"It is bitter -- bitter", he answered,
"But I like it
Because it is bitter,
And because it is my heart."

MacCandace - 04 Nov 2003 01:23 GMT
<< I try to post useful information and have
fun while I'm doing it.  I hope that cat-owners around the world are
even now lifting their napping cats' tails and checking them for worms
because of what I've posted here and previously.  >>

Well, slightly crude at it was, your not-entirely-worthless post was fairly
amusing and that's worth something.  You also stated that the tapeworm med is
readily available OTC which is actually contrary to everything I've ever heard.
I thought the OTC wormers one could get were not very effective and
potentially toxic.  However, perhaps things have changed and that is no longer
the case as there are certainly many human meds formerly available by RX only
that are now OTC.  What is the medication you used?

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

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than human."  (Loren Eisely)
guynoir - 04 Nov 2003 01:53 GMT
I used praziquantel tablets.
http://www.1800petmeds.com/ph_detail.asp?ItemSku=10415&searchstring=TAPE#

>What is the medication you used?
>
> Candace
> (take the litter out before replying by e-mail)
>
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m. L. Briggs - 06 Nov 2003 17:25 GMT
>I used praziquantel tablets.
>http://www.1800petmeds.com/ph_detail.asp?ItemSku=10415&searchstring=TAPE#
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>> Candace
>> (take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

Not all of us are as proficient using the computer as you are.  Why
don't you give a few tips on how to find useful sites?   Needless to
say, even those whose replies are not to your liking,,seem to have the
animal's interest at heart.  Carry on your good work.  You will
probably be a good teacher someday.   MLB
Tequila Red 2 - 10 Nov 2003 14:56 GMT
What is the name of the OTC that you can get for Tapeworms?

Angela
"Just trying to get by, being quite and shy, in a world full of pushing and
shoving" - Jimmy Buffett
guynoir - 11 Nov 2003 03:50 GMT
This is what I used:

http://www.1800petmeds.com/ph_detail.asp?ItemSku=10415&searchstring=TAPE#

Petmeds also sells Droncit, which is the same stuff, only cheaper, but I
was in a hurry so I bought what was available at the local farm store.

The active ingredient is "praziquantel".  Another drug used for
tapeworms is "niclosamide", which may be more effective, but I haven't
seen any worm segments in a couple weeks.

> What is the name of the OTC that you can get for Tapeworms?
>
> Angela
> "Just trying to get by, being quite and shy, in a world full of pushing and
> shoving" - Jimmy Buffett

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