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Road Trip and Sub-Q

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Brandy?Alexandre - 24 Oct 2003 16:05 GMT
FYI, I was half right about sub-q for the car trip.  I told him we were
traveling by car and he didn't think of her not eating or drinking
until I brought it up.  He didn't think it was too bad, didn't believe
it was worth risking.  He said though she doesn't need it at this
stage, he suggested I learn to give sub-qs and do it the night before
we go, and when we arrive at the hotel, and once more at the
destination, and again if she's having trouble adjusting and won't
drink.  After her blood draw, a tech came him and showed me how.  
(Question: Is $18.58 an average or reasonable price for sub-q?)  Kami
didn't fight it, but I can still imagine what it would be like at home.  
Seems easy enough if she's cooperative and I will pick up supplies
closer to the date and do one or two practices before hitting the road.

I asked him if he knew of a good vet in the new locale.  He said he
wished he did, because he'd like to see Kami get the best care.  He
used to live out there, so I told him if he ever wants to move back,
I'll leave my number...

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Mary - 24 Oct 2003 17:50 GMT
>(Question: Is $18.58 an average or reasonable price for sub-q?)  Kami
>didn't fight it, but I can still imagine what it would be like at home.  
>Seems easy enough if she's cooperative and I will pick up supplies
>closer to the date and do one or two practices before hitting the road.

If your cat is small, you can just get a big syringe and a bag of lactated
ringers or saline solution. If they buy the bags by the box, it's only $1.98
each bag. My vet charges me $10 for the bag. A bag lasts a long time. The big
syringes with needles are .75 cents each. I subq squirrels which are smaller so
I just use big syringes which is easier than the IV type setup.
rrb_091903 - 24 Oct 2003 20:57 GMT
Brandy Alexandre wrote:
> FYI, I was half right about sub-q for the car trip.  I told him we were
> traveling by car and he didn't think of her not eating or drinking
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> used to live out there, so I told him if he ever wants to move back,
> I'll leave my number...

The above sounds ok to me. My only question is how far is it from the
hotel stop to your final destination? With you giving her a sub-q at the
hotel she might have to go before you get to your destination depending
on how long it is between the stops. If you aren't already I would
consider a litter box break for her. In any case I hope the trip goes
well, and that you experience no problems.

rrb
Ms Alexandre - 24 Oct 2003 21:53 GMT
BTW, I'm moving so I can take this hot new job I was offered at a strip
club. I hope all you boys will come out and see me. It will be advertised.
Cheryl - 24 Oct 2003 23:44 GMT
> BTW, I'm moving so I can take this hot new job I was offered at a
> strip club. I hope all you boys will come out and see me. It will
> be advertised.

Joe, Joe, Joe. <shaking head>  If you knew how to frog, you'd be
dangerous.
Joe Canuck - 25 Oct 2003 00:59 GMT
>>BTW, I'm moving so I can take this hot new job I was offered at a
>>strip club. I hope all you boys will come out and see me. It will
>>be advertised.
>
> Joe, Joe, Joe. <shaking head>  If you knew how to frog, you'd be
> dangerous.

That was bargain basement froggery.

Now don'tja get me started up!  ;-)

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Brandy?Alexandre - 25 Oct 2003 16:52 GMT
Cheryl <jlh@NOSPAMpetitmorte.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

>> BTW, I'm moving so I can take this hot new job I was offered at a
>> strip club. I hope all you boys will come out and see me. It will
>> be advertised.
>
> Joe, Joe, Joe. <shaking head>  If you knew how to frog, you'd be
> dangerous.

Isn't he a pathetic little stalker?  So obsessed on something that he
has fantasized about for so long but can never touch.

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Joe Canuck - 25 Oct 2003 16:59 GMT
Brandy Alexandre wrote:
> Cheryl <jlh@NOSPAMpetitmorte.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
>
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> Isn't he a pathetic little stalker?  So obsessed on something that he
> has fantasized about for so long but can never touch.

Oh brother... what an ego you've got.

I value my health, no way I'm touchin' the likes of you.

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Warren O - 27 Oct 2003 01:02 GMT
Brandy Alexandre wrote:
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> (Question: Is $18.58 an average or reasonable price for sub-q?)  Kami
> didn't fight it, but I can still imagine what it would be like at home.  
> Seems easy enough if she's cooperative and I will pick up supplies
> closer to the date and do one or two practices before hitting the road.

I pay $18/bag w/needles. If you're in this for the long haul, there are
a couple of websites and a Yahoo Group you should know about:

http://www.felinecrf.org
http://www.felinecrf.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-CRF-Support/

You can find out how to give your cat sub-q (if your cat lets a vet tech
do it, I see no reason why you can't), where to get stuff cheap online
(Brico Medical is popular -- I haven't used them yet, though, and have
no connection to the company), and basically how to deal with this
difficult disease.

Of course, you might already know about these resources. I just found
them about six weeks ago and thought they're too valuable not to
mention. :-)

Best wishes,
Warren
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Brandy?Alexandre - 27 Oct 2003 01:54 GMT
Warren O <greatgifts@officiallycuteREMOVE.THIScom> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> I pay $18/bag w/needles. If you're in this for the long haul,
> there are a couple of websites and a Yahoo Group you should know
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> http://www.felinecrf.com
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-CRF-Support/

That price was for them to administer a "dose" of sub-q.  I don't know
what they charge for me to purchase the essentials.  I know of these
groups already and asked about the needle.  He used a 28 gauge and I
mentioned my online groups suggesting various other, syringes, smaller
needles, etc.  He said it really depends on the cat.  If she's not one
for holding still, the larger needle is better because it will go
faster.  

> You can find out how to give your cat sub-q (if your cat lets a
> vet tech do it, I see no reason why you can't),

Bwahaha!  The techs can pill her, take her blood, take her urine via
needle, take xrays, put ointment in her eyes, scrape at her teeth, and
she doesn't give them a bit of trouble.  But on her home turf... that's
another story.

> Of course, you might already know about these resources. I just
> found them about six weeks ago and thought they're too valuable
> not to mention. :-)

I've been anticipating the need, but the vet hasn't said it's time.  We
simply discussed the road trip and how best to protect her in the
upset.  He said if I'm comfortable with it, it certainly wouldn't harm
her to get sub-q once or twice a week.  He vascilated about whether or
not she was slightly dehydrated when he saw her, saying that sometimes
it's difficult to tell if it's just her skin losing elasticity or what.  
Either way, she's stable and in good shape... for having CRF, asthma, a
heart murmur and arthritis...

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