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Dr. Jekyll cat is Mr. Hyde at the vet

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rishi - 23 Oct 2003 04:08 GMT
This has happened twice. The cat in question is the only pet in the
household. She is very docile and playful (mixed breed). She loves new
people or visitors and sidles up to them and plays with them.
Absolutely very social. Not declawed but does not scratch in attack,
has never bitten anyone (except pseudo-biting in play - never skin
penetration). Will run up and approach people in the hallway to play
with them.

At the vet, the cat is a completely different animal. Hissing,
swiping, growling, even at its owner. This is immediately upon
arriving at the vet exam room. Is ok in the waiting room.

We are dumbfounded as the other 364.9 days of the year, this cat could
win the cat Nobel Peace Prize. It's like Jekyll and Hyde.

Any suggestions?

(We are also super embarrassed as this is the only side of the cat the
vet has ever seen...)
Iso - 23 Oct 2003 05:52 GMT
If you are inquiring why your cat acts differently, it's because of the
scents that are emitted by all the animals that are there, and have been
there. Different animals have emitted all kinds of pheromones, urine, feces.
one of the most imperative ways in which a cat receives feedback about his
environment is smell. Sense of smell helps the cat communicate with others
of his own kind and assess the potential risks and pleasures associated with
every waking moment. It's literally on sensory overload.
rishi - 23 Oct 2003 15:31 GMT
> If you are inquiring why your cat acts differently, it's because of the
> scents that are emitted by all the animals that are there, and have been
> there.

OK I hear you.

Any suggestions on what we do about it? I would like the cat to have a
successful vet visit.
Annie Wxill - 24 Oct 2003 01:29 GMT
> > If you are inquiring why your cat acts differently, it's because of the
> > scents that are emitted by all the animals that are there, and have been
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Any suggestions on what we do about it? I would like the cat to have a
> successful vet visit.

Rishi,
Try spraying a little Feliway into the carrier about 10 minutes before
loading the cat.  It has a calming effect and may block out the other
scents.
We used to have a cat who was very nervous at the vet's (not uncooperative,
like yours, but he would pee all over himself). We found that when he rolled
in catnip, it zoned him out in a sleepy sort of way. So we put a sprinkle of
catnip in the carrier, and by the time we got to the vet, the cat would be
really mellow.
However, catnip will make some cats excited and have no effect at all on
others.
Good luck finding a solution for your problem.
Annie
Joe Pitt - 23 Oct 2003 12:29 GMT
A couple of things:
1) Have you had the cat since it was a kitten? If you got her as an adult,
she may have had a bad experience at the vet. One of the adults I rescued
was like that too.
2) There are lots of smells in the exam room: other animals, medicines that
were given to previous pets, etc. that may bother her.
3) You might try a cat only vet. I use one and found some of the cats are
more relaxed without the dog smells and sounds.
Good luck.

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> This has happened twice. The cat in question is the only pet in the
> household. She is very docile and playful (mixed breed). She loves new
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> (We are also super embarrassed as this is the only side of the cat the
> vet has ever seen...)
rishi - 23 Oct 2003 22:43 GMT
> A couple of things:
> 1) Have you had the cat since it was a kitten? If you got her as an adult,
> she may have had a bad experience at the vet. One of the adults I rescued
> was like that too.

Joe - she's been a pet since six weeks of age, but very little contact
with other animals ever.

Will explore the cat-only vet idea
Wayne - 23 Oct 2003 19:20 GMT
Try a couple of drops of valerian compound into cats mouth then a couple of
drops on the bedding, it exerts a calming influence and can be obtained from
herbalist for cats quite cheaply and lasts a long time in the bottle!

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> This has happened twice. The cat in question is the only pet in the
> household. She is very docile and playful (mixed breed). She loves new
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> (We are also super embarrassed as this is the only side of the cat the
> vet has ever seen...)
PawsForThought - 23 Oct 2003 22:22 GMT
>From: "Wayne" ww007b1923@blueyonder.co.uk

>Try a couple of drops of valerian compound into cats mouth then a couple of
>drops on the bedding, it exerts a calming influence and can be obtained from
>herbalist for cats quite cheaply and lasts a long time in the bottle!

Good idea, Wayne.  I have used this one and it works well:  

http://www.ediblenature.com/tranquility-ext-blend-1oz--aa.html

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Cathy Friedmann - 23 Oct 2003 21:30 GMT
This is not unique to your cat; many otherwise perfectly sweet cats act like
this when they're at the vet's, & one feels obligated to reassure the vet
that, really, at home the cat is a placid, friendly being.  ;-)

Cathy

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> This has happened twice. The cat in question is the only pet in the
> household. She is very docile and playful (mixed breed). She loves new
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> (We are also super embarrassed as this is the only side of the cat the
> vet has ever seen...)
Laura R. - 31 Oct 2003 01:25 GMT
circa Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:30:01 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Cathy Friedmann (clfr@adelphia.net) said,
> This is not unique to your cat; many otherwise perfectly sweet cats act like
> this when they're at the vet's, & one feels obligated to reassure the vet
> that, really, at home the cat is a placid, friendly being.  ;-)

Heh. I can't count how many times I've said, "he's really not like
this at home..." ;-)

Laura
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Cathy Friedmann - 31 Oct 2003 02:43 GMT
> circa Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:30:01 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> Cathy Friedmann (clfr@adelphia.net) said,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Heh. I can't count how many times I've said, "he's really not like
> this at home..." ;-)

Me, neither. ;-)  Truly, she was the quintessential lapcat at home.  And my
sister has a cat, Ed, whose file at the vets' is labeled "Dangerous".  I
told her about the "Fractious" label earlier in this thread, & suggested
that she suggest that label to her vet - sounds a bit nicer. <g>

Cathy

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Napoleon - 24 Oct 2003 00:45 GMT
> This has happened twice. The cat in question is the only pet in the
> household. She is very docile and playful (mixed breed). She loves new
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Any suggestions?

Same experience with our recently deceased cat, who was also an "only
child" and a lovebug except when she was at the vet's. As others
mention, I think a lot of it is sensory overload in an environment the
cat is not used to.  I think they may associate the smells with some
of the uncomfortable things the vets do to them if they go to the vet
often enough. It *is* kind of embarrassing to have the vet page for
help because your cat has transformed into a feline demon from hell,
but if the vet (and ours *is* a "cat only" vet) has a a professional
attitude it's probably no big deal to them because they've seen it all
before and know that some cats just freak out when they are at the
vet.

> (We are also super embarrassed as this is the only side of the cat the
> vet has ever seen...)

We had the same exact same reaction.  We've gone back to the clinic
looking to adopt a new cat (they have a large number of cats being
fostered there) and it's a little hard to hear the vets and techs
commissurate about how Prissy was so "feisty" and "full of piss and
vinegar", you feel like they missed out on getting to know the real
personality.
William Hamblen - 24 Oct 2003 02:43 GMT
> Same experience with our recently deceased cat, who was also an "only
> child" and a lovebug except when she was at the vet's.

Some cats are just fighters.  A former co-worker's cat had "BAD CAT"
written in large letters on her file.  The vet staff would argue
about who had to handle the cat this time.  In normal circumstances
the cat was fine.

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Sherry - 24 Oct 2003 04:29 GMT
>Some cats are just fighters.  A former co-worker's cat had "BAD CAT"
>written in large letters on her file.  The vet staff would argue
>about who had to handle the cat this time.  In normal circumstances
>the cat was fine.

ROFL. That sounds like my old Cherokee. The top of his file said "fractious
animal."
He was better with female vets, and better if I stepped back where he could not
see me.

Sherry
MacCandace - 26 Oct 2003 19:05 GMT
<< ROFL. That sounds like my old Cherokee. The top of his file said "fractious
animal." >>

That's funny...that's the exact term one of my former vets applied to one of
our now-deceased kitties, Miles, in her chart.  Must be a word they use in vet
school as it certainly isn't a word one hears commonly elsewhere.

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Sherry - 26 Oct 2003 20:21 GMT
><< ROFL. That sounds like my old Cherokee. The top of his file said
>"fractious
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Candace

How interesting. That's the first time I'd ever heard that word used. I think
your theory must be right, then, it's a "vet school" term! (sounds better than
"The Cat From Hell" though. Cherokee was *awful*. And he was so strong, 26
lbs., fully clawed and when he bit, he sunk his teeth in and didn't let up.
I'm sure they hated to see us coming.
MacCandace - 27 Oct 2003 02:13 GMT
<<  And he was so strong, 26
lbs., fully clawed and when he bit, he sunk his teeth in and didn't let up.
I'm sure they hated to see us coming.  >>

Wow, he musta been a little intimidating.  Little Miles weighed 8 at her
heaviest but she was a terror.  She had this low guttural growl that would
start the second we got there that would then accelerate into a high
shriek...without even being touched.  It sounded like she was being tortured
and was very disruptive to any other animals/humans around.  She also twisted
and turned and clawed and bit.  Very darling.  In order just to take blood for
tests, they had to anesthesize her.

Candace
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Laura R. - 31 Oct 2003 01:26 GMT
circa Fri, 24 Oct 2003 01:43:51 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
William Hamblen (william.hamblen@earthlink.net) said,

> > Same experience with our recently deceased cat, who was also an "only
> > child" and a lovebug except when she was at the vet's.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> about who had to handle the cat this time.  In normal circumstances
> the cat was fine.

Alex's file had "WILL BITE" written across it- I made sure to inform
every vet that ever saw Alex about it. The vets all survived. :-)

Laura
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Brandy?Alexandre - 24 Oct 2003 04:55 GMT
rishi <rishi@unforgettable.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> At the vet, the cat is a completely different animal. Hissing,
> swiping, growling, even at its owner. This is immediately upon
> arriving at the vet exam room. Is ok in the waiting room.
>
> We are dumbfounded as the other 364.9 days of the year, this cat
> could win the cat Nobel Peace Prize. It's like Jekyll and Hyde.

I have the reverse.  Dr. Lancet thinks Kami is such a good kitty.  Ha!  

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DG511 - 24 Oct 2003 19:17 GMT
My Hilary, who crossed the Rainbow Bridge a few years ago, was wild at the vet.
When we moved, I used that wildness as an opportunity to screen vets.  At one
place, the two vets declared her "difficult."  But one of them called in a
young intern, who held Hilary firmly but gently on the table while one of the
senior vets did the exam.  Hilary calmed down a lot.  I got the intern's name,
and when she became licensed, I started taking my cats to her.  She's been the
family vet ever since.

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Laura R. - 31 Oct 2003 01:19 GMT
circa 22 Oct 2003 20:08:04 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
rishi (rishi@unforgettable.com) said,
> This has happened twice. The cat in question is the only pet in the
> household. She is very docile and playful (mixed breed). She loves new
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> (We are also super embarrassed as this is the only side of the cat the
> vet has ever seen...)

My cat Alex was like the above, but easily ten times worse. He was
just plain ROTTEN at the vet. Bit, hissed, spat, shat, growled,
shrieked, *screamed*- before anybody would so much as stick a
thermometer in him.

My vets adored him, as did all the clinic staff. He was their weekly
dose of excitement during his chemo, and he had *personality*.

Don't worry, some cats just want everybody to know that they're
pi**ed off about being poked at, and most vets understand that.

Laura
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