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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / October 2003"Science Diet" Hairball Control Sensitivity
Hello All! We've got two tabbies, Spirit and Angel, each is about 3 years of age. They both eat the same food but Angel has an on-again, off-again sensitivity to the above food. Sometimes she'll go two weeks without vomiting, another time it's twice a day! It always comes up yellow...so we presume it's the food. Is there another food, with "hairball control" that we can give her that you'd recommend? We groom her regularly; without the hairball control she vomits hairballs. You see, she grooms her sister, as well. Spirit grooms Angel too, but apparently is not as sensitive. We also give them "Eucanuba Lamb and Rice" which they both love and keep down. For weekend treat, they love the "Fancy Feast" in the tin that we give them. Angel keeps that down as well. It's only when we mix a small ammount of the Science Diet with the Eucanuba, that Angel gets sick. All suggestions will be most gratefully received! Many thanks for taking the time to respond! Lois Are you sure the sensitivity is to the Science Diet Hairball formulation? From your description, the sensitivity could be the Eucanuba, largely, as you mention that the sensitivity only seems to occur when the Eucanuba and the Science Diet are mixed. You state that the effect doesn't occur with the other food / brand mixes. Larry Osborne > Hello All! > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Lois >From: Alaininsd alaininvc@netscape.net >They both eat the same food but Angel has an on-again, off-again >sensitivity to the above food. Sometimes she'll go two weeks without >vomiting, another time it's twice a day! It always comes up yellow...so >we presume it's the food. My previous cats got sick on Science Diet too :( >Is there another food, with "hairball control" that we can give her that >you'd recommend? We groom her regularly; without the hairball control [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >ammount of the Science Diet with the Eucanuba, that Angel gets sick. All >suggestions will be most gratefully received! I would recommend Wellness, Felidae or Innova. I'm sure one of them probably has a hairball control formula. I would also recommend feeding a canned diet rather than just dry food. Just remember when you introduce a new food, you should do it slowly by adding just a very small amount of new and mix it in with the old food. Good luck, Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm "PawsForThought" <darnit7@aol.comnolitter> wrote in message > > My previous cats got sick on Science Diet too :( Don't mind Lauren, she has an obsession with Science Diet and conjures up built-to-suit "experiences" and fabricated "me too" stories for any negative post about Science Diet. If someone said Science Diet gave their tyrannosaurus rex diarrhea Lauren would conjure up a "me too" story about how SD gave her T-Rex diarrhea too! >My previous cats got sick on Science Diet too :( Lauren, my cats (and dogs) thrive on Science Diet. Numerous other people that I know have both cats and dogs that thrive on Science Diet as well. >I would recommend Wellness, Felidae or Innova. Those foods aren't neccessarily best for adult cats. If the AAFCO statement on the bag states, "for all life stages"...then that food has only been formulated to meet the needs of kittens which require higher nutrient levels than do adult and senior cats. Not to mention that none of those companies does ANY research into feline nutrition to my knowledge. >From: gaubster2@aol.com (GAUBSTER2) >>My previous cats got sick on Science Diet too :( > >Lauren, my cats (and dogs) thrive on Science Diet. Numerous other people >that >I know have both cats and dogs that thrive on Science Diet as well. Well that was NOT my experience. My cats had dry coats and stinky poops from Science Diet foods. >>I would recommend Wellness, Felidae or Innova. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >research >into feline nutrition to my knowledge. We've been all over this ALS ad nauseum. All I know is my previous cats, once switched from Science Diet to Wellness, their coats became much softer and shinier, they had more energy and their poops didn't have that awful smell that they did when they were eating Science Diet. I'm sorry, but I can't recommend a food that my animals never did well on. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > >From: gaubster2@aol.com (GAUBSTER2) > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Well that was NOT my experience. My cats had dry coats and stinky poops from > Science Diet foods. We fed SD maintenence at the vet because the vet got such great kick-backs from them. Over 50% of the cats wouldn't eat it, and those who did had notoriously stinky poop - it was just gross. Consequently I hate the stuff. The smell of it nauseates *me*. I once tried it on my cats when they were kittens. They wouldn't eat it either. Smart cats. ;) -L. >>>From: gaubster2@aol.com (GAUBSTER2) >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > -L. When I used to feed SD my cat Audrey was *always* leaking anal gland liquid hell, on top of other problems. Now, she only does once in a blue moon *thank god*!! Especially back then she slept right by my head. I can't tell you how many times I was woken up in the middle of the night by *anal gland*. And I sleep like the dead. It kind of reminds me of my friend who used to have *really* bad gas because she ate so much Prego spaghetti sauce. Now that she eats other kinds of spaghetti sauce, we can now safely be around her when she indulges in pasta... ;) Go figure. > >>>From: gaubster2@aol.com (GAUBSTER2) > >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > can't tell you how many times I was woken up in the middle of the night > by *anal gland*. And I sleep like the dead *Nothing* grosser. The worst was when I worked for the vet and would get "squirted" before 7:30 AM, and changed into my only other set of scrubs, and then would get squirted again right after lunch - couldn't go home to get another set since lunch was already over. I finally just started bringing 4 sets of scrubs with me to work. I hated that! Another time, I got squirted and thought I got it all cleaned up/off, but people kept smelling it on me. It was in my HAIR. EEEEWWWWW!!! -L. -L. >From: k3_e81@yahoo.com (-L.) >> > darnit7@aol.comnolitter (PawsForThought) wrote in message >news:<20031020072707.10366.00000924@mb-m14.aol.com>... [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >but people kept smelling it on me. It was in my HAIR. EEEEWWWWW!!! >-L. OMG, that must have been absolutely awful! Even though my cats had really stinky poops from Hill's Science Diet foods, fortunately, we never had the squirting problem. However, one of my cats anal glands became very badly impacted and infected from eating Science Diet so we had to take her to the vet for treatment. I felt so sorry for her and it was then and there I swore I would never feed Science Diet to another one of my cats. Even the vet suggested feeding another brand of food which was a surprise since it was him who originally recommended Science Diet. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > However, one of my cats anal glands became very badly >impacted and infected from eating Science Diet so we had to take her to the >vet >for treatment. WOW! 2 "new ones" in one day! Now Science Diet CAUSES?? impacted and infected anal glands? You guys are hilarious! LOL >>However, one of my cats anal glands became very badly >>impacted and infected from eating Science Diet so we had to take her to the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > WOW! 2 "new ones" in one day! Now Science Diet CAUSES?? impacted and infected > anal glands? You guys are hilarious! LOL Look G2, I'm going to try and say this nicely. We all see things happen to/with our pets that through our own observations, cause and effect, process of elimination, etc.. that lead us to the conclusion that situation A was caused by factor B. Will this necessarily happen with someone else's pet? Not necessarily. Does that mean that it didn't occur with our own? No, certainly not. My cat's AG's were prone to "oozing" during the time she was on SD. And actually, when I moved into my ex-boyfriend's apt. and his cat started eating SD, *his* anal glands started "oozing" a little bit, which they hadn't before. Can I say with 100% absolute certainty that the SD did it? No, but I'd say it was 98% the cause with Audrey and about 75% with Harry. Just because it hasn't happened to you, don't discount other people's experiences. You or someone else may have a cat with a similar problem, and will be able to clue into the cause through an anecdoate such as this. >Look G2, I'm going to try and say this nicely. <the rest snipped for brevity> Karen, I'm actually going to complement you here...seriously. This was probably the nicest post you've directed my way. Glad to see that you can make your point w/o being a jerk about it. :) Lauren wrote: >snip> However, one >of my cats anal glands became very badly >impacted and infected from eating Science Diet [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >another one of my cats. >Lauren The food caused the cats glands to become impacted???? Sorry but LMAO!!!!!! >From: Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net (Nadine) >Lauren wrote: >>snip> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >The food caused the cats glands to become impacted???? Sorry but >LMAO!!!!!! My cat never had anal gland problems until we started feeding her Science Diet food. Once we got her off Science Diet, the anal gland problem never returned. Strange coincidence, I'd say. Even the vet recommended not feeding Science Diet anymore. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm >My cat never had anal gland problems until we started feeding her Science >Diet [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Lauren Lauren, Phil seems to be right. I've seen you just this year blame every possible problem on Science Diet. > Lauren wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The food caused the cats glands to become impacted???? Sorry but > LMAO!!!!!! If the cat's digestive tract is forming poor stools in response to diet, those stools may not be "forcing" out the material from the anal glands and they can become impacted. I noticed a dramatic decrease in anal gland secretion from my cat after I switched her off SD. Without regular expression from her stools, they would finally become overfull and "leak" on their own. I wrote a previous post to G2 about not discounting other people's experiences. Perhaps you should read it before mocking others. Karen >From: "Karen M." mskitty@easystreetNOSPAM.com >> Lauren wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >Karen I guess some people just don't get it that there is a very direct correlation between health and diet. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm Lauren wrote: >I guess some people just don't get it that there >is a very direct correlation between health and >diet. Oh trust me Lauren I get it. I work with it every day. I STILL work at a vets office. Hills diets work wonders for many pets, sorry it didn't work for yours, but NOTHING works 100% of the time for 100% of the problems, that's life. Karen wrote: > I wrote a previous post to G2 about not >discounting other people's experiences. >Perhaps you should read it before mocking >others. I'm not mocking anyone. While I'm glad that your 1 cat (and Laurens 1 cat) anal gland problems got resolved, I don't believe it had anything to do with Hills food. I believe it was nothing more then a coincidence, or maybe even a problem those particular cats had with the food they were eating. We see plenty of cats/dogs on a regular basis with anal gland problems and very, very few of them are eating any Hills product. I will say though that every individual animal can react differently to any given thing, foods included. But just because a few animals had a adverse reaction to "something" doesn't make that "something" bad for millions of others, especially if that "something" has been proven safe and effective as well as Hills Diets have been. > Karen wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > millions of others, especially if that "something" has been proven safe > and effective as well as Hills Diets have been. Did I say "millions of other" were going to have problems from SD? Read a few posts before attempting to sum up my supposed viewpoints. My post on anal glands was on topic for the thread. I shared an experience that may help someone else down the road. That's what this newsgroup is for. If you and certain others don't like people criticizing SD, well I don't know what to tell you. I personally believe SD was a direct factor in my cat's problem, for the other one, I think it contributed to a point. Don't be so quick to dismiss something I experienced firsthand. Karen wrote: >Did I say "millions of other" were going to have >problems from SD? Nope, I did, and I never said that you did say that. >Read a few posts before >attempting to sum up my supposed viewpoints. Those were my view points, "I" wrote them, hence "my" view points. >My post on anal glands was on topic for the >thread. I shared an experience that may help >someone else down the road. That's what this >newsgroup is for. If you and certain others don't >like people criticizing SD, well I don't know what >to tell you. I personally believe SD was a direct >factor in my cat's problem, for the other one, I >think it contributed to a point. Don't be so quick >to dismiss something I experienced firsthand. Yes, I understand that you personally believe SD was a direct factor in your cats problems, which is fine, but that doesn't mean that you should tell everyone one that it's a bad product, because it's not. It has helped millions of animals. Criticizing SD is fine, but telling anyone that will listen, not to feed SD is a disservice to pets in need of medical help. And I did say: >I will say though that every individual animal >can react differently to any given thing, foods >included. But just because a few animals had a >adverse reaction to "something" doesn't make >that "something" bad for millions of others, > Karen wrote: > >>Did I say "millions of other" were going to have >>problems from SD? > > Nope, I did, and I never said that you did say that. That's not how you wrote it in your previous post. It implied that was *my* viewpoint. Be careful how you write things, then. > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > that will listen, not to feed SD is a disservice to pets in need of > medical help. Once again, Nadine. Go back and read a few posts. I've never told any one "not to feed SD". I've given *my* personal opinion. Even according to you, that's allowed. If *I* personally think SD is a bad product, I will say so if I so choose. However, I've stated many times other people have had success with it. Do you have a problem with that? > And I did say: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>adverse reaction to "something" doesn't make >>that "something" bad for millions of others, Karen wrote: >That's not how you wrote it in your previous >post. It implied that was *my* viewpoint. Be >careful how you write things, then. This is what I wrote: >I will say though that every individual animal >can react differently to any given thing, foods [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >safe and effective as well as Hills Diets have >been. I reprinted it so that I could examine it better. I still don't think that I implied that you said it. It clearly says "I'. Sorry if you took it the wrong way, but don't try reprimanding me like I'm a child, thank you. >Once again, Nadine. Go back and read a few >posts. I've never told any one "not to feed SD". [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >people have had success with it. Do you have a >problem with that? I went back and re-read all of your posts Karen and you are right you never did say "don't feed SD" and for that I apologize. As to the "have a problem with that"- need more cold medicine? > Karen wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > never did say "don't feed SD" and for that I apologize. As to the > "have a problem with that"- need more cold medicine? Post like an adult, and you won't be reprimanded like a child. Easy. Karen wrote: >Post like an adult, and you won't be >reprimanded like a child. Easy. My, my aren't you the mature one. So much for being civil. > Karen wrote: > >>Post like an adult, and you won't be >>reprimanded like a child. Easy. > > My, my aren't you the mature one. So much for being civil. I'm civil to those who return the favor. Karen wrote: >Post like an adult, and you won't be >reprimanded like a child. Easy. >My, my aren't you the mature one. So much for >being civil. >I'm civil to those who return the favor. No I think you're civil to those that agree with you. I've noticed that disagreeing with some of the people in this group is taken like a slap in the face, y'all just can't handle it. Tisk Tisk >From: Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net (Nadine) >Karen wrote: >>Post like an adult, and you won't be [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >taken like a slap in the face, y'all just can't handle it. >Tisk Tisk You can disagree all you want, that's fine. It's when people talk down their noses at others and discount their real experiences as something imagined, that's when it's not taken well. Treat other people with the respect you want to be treated with and you won't have a problem. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > > Karen wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > taken like a slap in the face, y'all just can't handle it. > Tisk Tisk Nadine, you don't know anything about the people on here, because you've been here all of two days. But hey, you want to think I'm a witch? Go ahead. That's your right. <shrug Karen M wrote: >Nadine, you don't know anything about the >people on here, because you've been here all >of two days. But hey, you want to think I'm a >witch? Go ahead. That's your right. <shrug> I have been lurking here for a whole lot longer then two days, and I have posted before. Did I say I thought you were a witch? No, I didn't. But my 17 year old daughter, who happened to be reading some of the responses I've gotten wanted to know, "WTF is their problem??" so I had her read every post in this thread and her response was, "Damn, who lit the string on their tampons" and "why are you even bothering with them ". (good question) Kinda sad when a kid can pick up on it so quickly. <sigh >From: Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net (Nadine) >Karen M wrote: >>Nadine, you don't know anything about the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >didn't. But my 17 year old daughter, who happened to be reading some of >the responses I've gotten wanted to know, "WTF is their problem??" You want to know what the problem is, Nadine? I'll tell you. You came on her and start posting with a superior smug and snide attitude and totally discounted the real life experiences of those of us who have had bad luck with Hill's Science Diet. What the heck do you expect, a warm welcome? Try treating people with respect and you might get the same in return. I hope your daughter will learn from her mother's mistakes, and treat people respectfully. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm Lauren wrote: >You want to know what the problem is, Nadine? >I'll tell you. You came on her and start posting >with a superior smug and snide attitude and >totally discounted the real life experiences of >those of us who have had bad luck with Hill's >Science Diet. No, I already know what the problems is, thank you. As for someone with a superior, smug and snide attitude, look in the mirror Lauren. > What the heck do you expect, a warm >welcome? Try treating people with respect and >you might get the same in return. I hope your >daughter will learn from her mother's mistakes, >and treat people respectfully. OMG LMAO you're too much. >You want to know what the problem is, Nadine? I'll tell you. You came on >her >and start posting with a superior smug and snide attitude and totally >discounted the real life experiences of those of us who have had bad luck >with >Hill's Science Diet. I absolutely did NOT pick up on that from Nadine. Lauren, Megan, Cheryl, and Karen M--you are the ones that can't disagree nicely and seem to be looking for a fight when there isn't one. Anybody who has a positive experience or word to say about Hill's get lambasted from you 4. Look, Alison doesn't agree w/ me a whole lot of the time, but she at least tries to come across as anything but rude or nasty. She tries to make a persuasive argument to back up her point and you should all take a lesson from her. Just because you are "regulars" doesn't mean you own things around here and you aren't going to win many people to your anti-Hill's agenda if you keep treating everyone w/ disrespect. (The sad thing is you are all adults and should know better) He's right you guys. All those times I've "said" I've been glad someone's cat's been doing better, knowing they were using SD, I really didn't mean it.... G2, from now on just leave me out it, I'm done. >>You want to know what the problem is, Nadine? I'll tell you. You came on >>her [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > to your anti-Hill's agenda if you keep treating everyone w/ disrespect. (The > sad thing is you are all adults and should know better) Just because > you are "regulars" doesn't mean you own things around here and you > aren't going to win many people to your anti-Hill's agenda if you > keep treating everyone w/ disrespect. (The sad thing is you are > all adults and should know better) You're a sicko. Own things? lmfao! You really have a problem and I hope you either find out what it is or just stfu. > Karen M wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > them ". (good question) Kinda sad when a kid can pick up on it so > quickly. <sigh> Nadine, I suspect if I had *my* daughter read people's responses to me, she'd say the same thing about them. But I'm tired of this back and forth, so think what you will of me, not much else to say. >From: Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net (Nadine) >Karen wrote: >> I wrote a previous post to G2 about not [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >coincidence, or maybe even a problem those particular cats had with the >food they were eating. Actually I did have 1 cat that had the anal problems from Hill's Science Diet. But I had other cats that also were fed Hill's Science Diet. They had dull coats and smelly poops. Once off the Science Diet brand of food and onto a different brand, their coats became shinier and their poops weren't as stinky. I don't think it was just a coincidence. This was my experience with Hill's Science Diet. >We see plenty of cats/dogs on a regular basis >with anal gland problems and very, very few of them are eating any Hills [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >millions of others, especially if that "something" has been proven safe >and effective as well as Hills Diets have been. I do understand as someone who works at a vet's your loyalty to Hill's Science Diet. It's just never worked for any of my animals. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > Once off the Science Diet brand of food and onto a >different brand, their coats became shinier and their poops weren't as >stinky. > I don't think it was just a coincidence. This was my experience with Hill's >Science Diet. What was the different brand of food and what year did this "take place" in? And why did you switch off of that "different" brand of food? Lauren wrote: >I do understand as someone who works at a >vet's your loyalty to Hill's Science Diet. It's just >never worked for any of my animals. I have no loyalty to Hills SD. Heck, I don't even feed it to my pets, but only because I can't afford to. Even at cost I couldn't afford to (no, we don't get it for free). Our hospital mainly carriers the prescription formula with only a few exceptions but we will special order one of their maintenance diets when requested. And while I understand that it didn't work for your pets, I have seen it work wonders for many others. So my point is why tell anyone that will listen that it's a bad food that shouldn't be tried no matter what. IMO that's a harmful disservice to a animal that may well be helped by feeding SD. >From: Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net (Nadine) >Lauren wrote: >>I do understand as someone who works at a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >wonders for many others. So my point is why tell anyone that will >listen that it's a bad food that shouldn't be tried no matter what. Who said that, Nadine? You sure are good at putting words in people's mouths. I said my cats did poorly on Hill's Science Diet food. If I do think a food is bad, it is certainly my option to say so. In my experience, Hill's has never worked well for any of my animals and I will continue to say so. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm Lauren wrote: >Who said that, Nadine? You sure are good at >putting words in people's mouths. I said my cats [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >worked well for any of my animals and I will >continue to say so. In a nut shell that's what it sounds like you are saying! If that's not what you are trying to say then you need to reword it, because that's the way it's coming across. Just because it didn't work for your cats doesn't mean it's a bad product, NOTHING works 100% for everyone, every time, that's just a fact of life. >From: Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net (Nadine) >Lauren wrote: >>Who said that, Nadine? You sure are good at [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >cats doesn't mean it's a bad product, NOTHING works 100% for everyone, >every time, that's just a fact of life. My cats did do poorly on it. Of course nothing works 100% for everyone. However, to be honest, I don't think Science Diet is a good food. Too high in grains for a carnivore. I'm not a fan of feeding corn or cellulouse to carnivores. Now if you want me to reword my post to say Science Diet is a good food, well I'm sorry, I can't in good conscience do that, when I don't think it's true. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm >However, to be honest, I don't think Science >Diet is a good food. Too high in grains for a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >do that, when I don't think it's true. >Lauren >However, to be honest, I don't think Science >Diet is a good food. Too high in grains for a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >do that, when I don't think it's true. >Lauren Sorry about the blank post, cat jumped on the keyboard. What I was going to ask was, do you feed raw? >So my point is why tell anyone that will listen >that it's a bad food that shouldn't be tried no >matter what. Lauren wrote: >Who said that, Nadine? You sure are good at >putting words in people's mouths. I said my cats [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >worked well for any of my animals and I will >continue to say so. >Group: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Date: Fri, >Oct 24, 2003, 1:29am (EDT+4) From: >darnit7@aol.comnolitter (PawsForThought) >Sounds to me like you're trying to make >something out of nothing to take the focus off >the fact that another person thinks Hill's foods >suck. I interpret the work sucks to mean "it's a bad food, don't feed it no matter what". I just stated it a little more diplomatically. Done >Lauren wrote: >Who said that, Nadine? You sure are good at [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >worked well for any of my animals and I will >continue to say so. >Group: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Date: Fri, >Oct 24, 2003, 1:29am (EDT+4) From: >Sounds to me like you're trying to make >something out of nothing to take the focus off >the fact that another person thinks Hill's foods >>suck. I wrote: >I interpret the work sucks to mean "it's a bad >food, don't feed it no matter what". I just stated >it a little more diplomatically. Done What, no response to this?!? Why aren't I surprised. >From: Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net (Nadine) > >Lauren wrote: > >Who said that, Nadine? You sure are good at [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >What, no response to this?!? Why aren't I surprised. I wasn't aware this even needed a response, since you took one thing and accepted it to mean something else. I can't comment on your comprehension problem, unless you really want me to ;) Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm Lauren wrote: > I wasn't aware this even needed a >response, since you took one thing and >accepted it to mean something else. I can't >comment on your comprehension problem, >unless you really want me to ;) Ummm Hmmm Pot-Kettle-Black >>What, no response to this?!? Why aren't I surprised. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Lauren Whenever Lauren is stuck for a witty comeback, she'll respond that somebody else has a "(reading) comprehension problem". >From: darnit7@aol.comnolitter (PawsForThought) >And while I >>understand that it didn't work for your pets, I have seen it work >>wonders for many others. So my point is why tell anyone that will >>listen that it's a bad food that shouldn't be tried no matter what. > >Who said that, Nadine? Feeling guilty Lauren? Why don't you and Karen lay off of Nadine? Are you trying to run her off of this ng because she is pointing out a point that you don't want made? >You sure are good at putting words in people's mouths. I haven't seen any evidence of that from Nadine. I HAVE seen you, Karen, Cheryl, and several others do that, though. :( >In my experience, Hill's has never >worked well for any of my animals and I will continue to say so. ...even if it includes making things up? ;) >From: darnit7@aol.comnolitter >(PawsForThought) >Who said that, Nadine? >Feeling guilty Lauren? Why don't you and >Karen lay off of Nadine? Are you trying to run >her off of this ng because she is pointing out a >point that you don't want made? Thanks Gaubster, but I don't run off very easily. I have teenagers here at home so I'm used to dealing with this type of mentality. >You sure are good at putting words in people's >mouths. >I haven't seen any evidence of that from >Nadine. I HAVE seen you, Karen, Cheryl, and >several others do that, though. :( Glad I'm not the only one that see this. >In my experience, Hill's has never >worked well for any of my animals and I will >continue to say so. >...even if it includes making things up? ;) >>From: darnit7@aol.comnolitter (PawsForThought) > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > trying to run her off of this ng because she is pointing out a point that you > don't want made? Why don't you let Nadine speak for herself? She made false statements about my posts, she got called on it. <shrug> >>You sure are good at putting words in people's mouths. > > I haven't seen any evidence of that from Nadine. I HAVE seen you, Karen, > Cheryl, and several others do that, though. :( Oh, give it a rest. I don't "put words in people's mouths". You dish it out just as much as anyone else. >>In my experience, Hill's has never >>worked well for any of my animals and I will continue to say so. > > ...even if it includes making things up? ;) Ok Nadine, Let me tell you this from experience. This group don't like us webtv people. Period. So even if you agreed with them, you would still be in the wrong. They seem to find anything to argue with you about. I only know of 3 people who have posted in this group not on webtv that are nice to us webtv people. So what I am getting at is some people in this group are biased towards webtv. I guess they think we are not as good as them because we own and use a webtv. But they need to remember not only do some of us have webtv, but we also own computers. Sorry, just wanted to give you the heads up. Bekah > Ok Nadine, > Let me tell you this from experience. This group don't like [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > wanted to give you the heads up. > Bekah Oh, please. So now it's a webtv conspiracy? (Where do these people come from?) FYI, people on Usenet critisize Outlook Express, AOL, WebTV, and anything else that doesn't conform to what *the person posting* thinks standards should be. I think you also need to grow some skin. Post with whatever the f.ck you want to post with and post something about your cat, or your experience with your cat and don't be so sensitive. >> Ok Nadine, >> Let me tell you this from experience. This group don't like >> us webtv people. Period. So even if you agreed with them, you would >> still be in the wrong. They seem to find anything to argue with you >> about. >From: "Cheryl" jlh@NOSPAMpetitmorte.net >Oh, please. So now it's a webtv conspiracy? (Where do these people >come from?) > Post with whatever the f.ck you want to post with and >post something about your cat, or your experience with your cat and >don't be so sensitive. ROTFLMAO!! Cheryl, you're killing me! Don't be such a tool! Why can't you exercise some self control and what's up w/ the potty mouth? You just proved this person's point! >> So what I am getting at is some people in this group are >> biased towards webtv. I guess they think we are not as good as them >> because we own and use a webtv. But they need to remember not only >> do some of us have webtv, but we also own computers. Sorry, just >> wanted to give you the heads up. >> Bekah >>> Ok Nadine, >>> Let me tell you this from experience. This group don't [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > can't you exercise some self control and what's up w/ the potty > mouth? You just proved this person's point! Tool? Tell me your reasoning for that choice of words. I call you a stupid f.ck and a retard because that is how you come across. What does "tool" in this sense mean? I never said I don't cuss and I don't try to be something I'm not. Why are you a retard? Prove this person's point? I post with Outlook Express and it was the first on my list of those that get ridiculed. How did I prove their point? Bekah wrote: >Ok Nadine, > Let me tell you this from experience. >This group don't like us webtv people. Period. >So even if you agreed with them, you would still >be in the wrong. They seem to find anything to >argue with you about. I only know of 3 people >who have posted in this group not on webtv that >are nice to us webtv people. > So what I am getting at is some people >in this group are biased towards webtv. I guess >they think we are not as good as them because >we own and use a webtv. But they need to >remember not only do some of us have webtv, >but we also own computers. Sorry, just wanted >to give you the heads up. Hi Bekah I really do hope that's not true! If it is shame on them for being so small minded and immature. I happen to like my webbie, I find it a lot easier for this type of use then I do my Imac. >Bekah wrote: >>Ok Nadine, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >>but we also own computers. Sorry, just wanted >>to give you the heads up. This is the silliest thing I've ever heard. I didn't even pay attention to what ISP Nadine has, nor do I care. Heck, I have AOL. Need I say more? Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > Bekah wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > so small minded and immature. I happen to like my webbie, I find it a > lot easier for this type of use then I do my Imac. Nadine, Rest assured, this is not true. I suspect most people don't even pay attention to what people post from. :) K > Feeling guilty Lauren? Why don't you and Karen lay off of Nadine? > Are you trying to run her off of this ng because she is pointing > out a point that you don't want made? fcofl! Run her off the newsgroup? A little exteme and paranoid there, gauby? That mental institution Lauren mentioned is sounded more realistic every time I read one of your posts. <rolls eyes >> Feeling guilty Lauren? Why don't you and Karen lay off of Nadine? >> Are you trying to run her off of this ng because she is pointing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >there, gauby? That mental institution Lauren mentioned is sounded >more realistic every time I read one of your posts. <rolls eyes> Why are some of you (who all seem to agree w/ each other all of the time) piling on Nadine? Can't you disagree w/ her tactfully? Somehow Alison seems to be able to do so, the rest of you should take a lesson. But, since you aren't grounded that often in reality (judging by what you've posted on this ng), I have no doubt that you would take to one of Lauren's little fantasies! >>> Feeling guilty Lauren? Why don't you and Karen lay off of Nadine? >>> Are you trying to run her off of this ng because she is pointing [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Somehow Alison seems to be able to do so, the rest of you should > take a lesson. Did I even reply to Nadine, you stupid f.ck? No. My post was to you and your paranoid comment about running someone off of a ng. As if that is even possible for anyone with any backbone which she obviously has. Learn to read attributes and follow a thread, retard. > But, since you aren't grounded that often in reality (judging by > what you've posted on this ng), PKB gauby, PKB. I have no doubt that you would take > to one of Lauren's little fantasies! Seeing that you can't take a little joke and have extreme paranoia, it's very obvious that you should consider that mental institute. Oh, and grow some skin. >From: "Cheryl" jlh@NOSPAMpetitmorte.net >> Why are some of you (who all seem to agree w/ each other all of the >> time) piling on Nadine? Can't you disagree w/ her tactfully? >> Somehow Alison seems to be able to do so, the rest of you should >> take a lesson. >Did I even reply to Nadine, you stupid f.ck? LOL!! More evidence of a nasty, bitter person w/ little self-control! Did I say you replied to Nadine? No. I was merely mentioning how several of you "regulars" can't disagree nicely. You then go and prove my point! Thanks a bunch! > Learn to read attributes and follow a thread, retard. Oh, I've followed your (and others) attributes....hence my (obvious to all) observations! >I have no doubt that you would take >> to one of Lauren's little fantasies! > >Seeing that you can't take a little joke and have extreme paranoia, >it's very obvious that you should consider that mental institute. That was a joke?? LOL. Now I'm laughing! Jokes should usually be funny and have a little bit of truth to them. That wasn't funny or truthful. If you found it funny, then I feel just a little bit sorry for you! >> From: "Cheryl" jlh@NOSPAMpetitmorte.net > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Did I say you replied to Nadine? No. Yes you did. Read your own post above, I've left it intact. I was merely mentioning how > several of you "regulars" can't disagree nicely. You then go and > prove my point! Thanks a bunch! Huh? Having any sort of conversation with you is like beating my head against the wall. You don't comprehend, you don't follow threads, and you don't have anything to say other than "defending Hills", your mission in life apparently. >> Learn to read attributes and follow a thread, retard. > > Oh, I've followed your (and others) attributes....hence my (obvious > to all) observations! No, retard, you don't. >> I have no doubt that you would take >>> to one of Lauren's little fantasies! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > truthful. If you found it funny, then I feel just a little bit > sorry for you! It really was funny. Honestly. A HA HA. It really was. If you didn't think it was close to the truth you would have seen that it was. >I was merely mentioning how >> several of you "regulars" can't disagree nicely. You then go and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >you don't have anything to say other than "defending Hills", your >mission in life apparently. Boy are you deluded! You don't agree w/ me, so you insult and ridicule. You should grow up and then perhaps you will understand all of the adult conversations around you! >>> Learn to read attributes and follow a thread, retard. >> >> Oh, I've followed your (and others) attributes....hence my (obvious >> to all) observations! >> >No, retard, you don't. LOL! More name-calling! >> That was a joke?? LOL. Now I'm laughing! Jokes should usually be >> funny and have a little bit of truth to them. That wasn't funny or [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >didn't think it was close to the truth you would have seen that it >was. I wonder what it's like to live in that deluded fantasy world of yours! LMAO >From: Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net (Nadine) >Karen wrote: >> I wrote a previous post to G2 about not [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >cat) anal gland problems got resolved, I don't believe it had anything >to do with Hills food. Well my vet said it was. Are you a vet too? Were you there and did you examine my cat? Thought not... ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm From: darnit7@aol.comnolitter (PawsForThought) >From: Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net (Nadine) >Karen wrote: >I wrote a previous post to G2 about not >discounting other people's experiences. >Perhaps you should read it before mocking >others. >I'm not mocking anyone. While I'm glad that >your 1 cat (and Laurens 1 cat) anal gland >problems got resolved, I don't believe it had >anything to do with Hills food. >Well my vet said it was. Are you a vet too? >Were you there and did you examine my cat? >Thought not... Not that you would ever admit it, but, most likely what your vet said was more along the line of, it could be causing the problem why don't you stop feeding it and see what happens. Which is a standard statement for vets since animals can't "tell" us what the problem is. Trial and error is a part of veterinary medicine. As for me being there, all I can say is thank God I wasn't, as clients like you are enough to ruin anyones day! Did I say I was a vet? Thought not..... Catty little thing aren't you? >From: Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net (Nadine) >From: darnit7@aol.comnolitter (PawsForThought) > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >was more along the line of, it could be causing the problem why don't >you stop feeding it and see what happens. LOL, you're really something, aren't you! You weren't there, so don't try to put words in my vet's mouth. I know exactly what he said. Which is a standard statement >for vets since animals can't "tell" us what the problem is. >Trial and error is a part of veterinary medicine. As for me being >there, all I can say is thank God I wasn't, as clients like you are >enough to ruin anyones day! > Did I say I was a vet? Thought not..... >Catty little thing aren't you? Only when it comes to you, dear ;) I'm glad I don't have someone like you working at my vets. You must drive away a lot of your vet's business with your attitude. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm Lauren wrote: >LOL, you're really something, aren't you! You >weren't there, so don't try to put words in my >vet's mouth. I know exactly what he said. LMAO No, you're really something! What, I haven't figured out yet. I already said I wasn't there and if you would/could read what I wrote, it said "most likely said" but like I also said " not that you would ever admit it". >Only when it comes to you, dear ;) >I'm glad I don't have someone like you working >at my vets. You must drive away a lot of your >vet's business with your attitude. Yes, that must be why I'm still there after 18 years and the majority of our long standing clients ask for me by name with questions. You're probably one of those people that sit in the waiting room telling the other clients what they should and shouldn't do with their cats. We laugh at clients like you, my dear. LOL Meowwww >From: Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net (Nadine) >Lauren wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >said "most likely said" but like I also said " not that you would ever >admit it". which was really a nice thing to say, wasn't it? and you wonder why I come across the way I do to you? Geesh >>Only when it comes to you, dear ;) >>I'm glad I don't have someone like you working [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >other clients what they should and shouldn't do with their cats. We >laugh at clients like you, my dear. LOL Actually I never talk to anyone when I'm in the waiting room, except one time in particular that I recall. A person came in to get their cat declawed. Their vet (wasn't the one I was seeing) had offered them one of those delightful "spay/neuter/declaw packages" without bothering to tell the client what was going to happen to her poor kitten when the vet declawed it. Thankfully I had overheard her tell the receptionist what she was there for. So when she sat down, I let her know the details about declawing (something the vet should have done). She was horrified that the vet didn't tell her and offered it up like it was just a simple manicure. She thanked me profusely for letting her know and then she went up to the desk and told them she only wanted her kitten spayed, and NOT declawed. I suppose you're going to tell me that it was none of my business to say anything, now aren't you? >Meowwww Hisssssssssss............. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm Lauren wrote: >She thanked me profusely for letting her know >and then she went up to the desk and told them >she only wanted her kitten spayed, and NOT >declawed. Considering we don't push declawing, no. >From: Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net (Nadine) >Lauren wrote: >>She thanked me profusely for letting her know [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Considering we don't push declawing, no. Do you do it though? ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > >From: Nadine_FSU1@webtv.net (Nadine) > > Not that you would ever admit it, but, most likely what your vet said > >was more along the line of, it could be causing the problem why don't > >you stop feeding it and see what happens. > > LOL, you're really something, aren't you! You weren't there, ..and probably neither were you and your cat. LOL! > From: darnit7@aol.comnolitter (PawsForThought) > Not that you would ever admit it, but, most likely what your vet > said was more along the line of, it could be causing the problem > why don't you stop feeding it and see what happens. Sorry, gotta jump in here with my experience. My cat with IBD was prescribed zd for a food trial. It made him sicker after less than two weeks (yes, the switch was slow); took two days of force feeding him ad (which we couldn't live without at times, HILLs food) and then the vet turned around and changed the 'script to id. You ever look at the ingredients? They are the same damn thing. Ok, I know zd has hydrolized protein but with IBD it is normally an ingredient triggering the set-back or symptoms. Why would a vet prescribe the very same set of ingredients after a very sick cat got even sicker on food of the same type? I'll tell you why. They are brainwashed in the same way some of you here appear to be. I didn't bother switching to ID, I switched vets who said NO HILLS. >Sorry, gotta jump in here with my experience. >My cat with IBD was prescribed zd for a food [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >here appear to be. I didn't bother switching to >ID, I switched vets who said NO HILLS. Sorry your cat has IBD and that you had a bad vet. Yes, I agree that Z/D and I/D are close in their ingredients. Not all vets (including mine) are like that though. Our doctor has no problem advising people to try foods other then Hills especially if there is a adverse reaction to it. When people come in with new animals our doctor doesn't push them to feed Hills. He simply tells them to feed a good well balanced name brand food (no we don't sell them at our hospital and I'm not going to name names for fear of getting into another war). We send plenty of people out to our local pet stores with lists of foods to try for problem cases. Neither he nor I am brainwashed when it comes to Hills, which I tried to make clear earlier. All I have been trying to say is that it's not a bad diet and has helped many ill animals, (like the A/D) I don't feel that makes me brainwashed. Hope your cat is doing better, IBD is a horrible thing to deal with. >>You ever look at the ingredients? Cheryl, z/d and i/d can be successfully utilized for IBD in a lot of cases. Unfortunately, your cat did not respond. However, to suggest that z/d and i/d are very close to the same food is not at all accurate. You can't look at an ingredient label (do we really have to go over this again?) and judge a food's efficacy. IT'S THE NUTRIENTS IN THE FOOD. Like you mentioned....z/d has hydrolized proteins....i/d has higher levels of electrolytes and B vitamins. Did you know that by looking at the ingredient label? Probably not. >Sorry your cat has IBD and that you had a bad vet. I echo Nadine's words. :) > Lauren wrote: > >snip> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > The food caused the cats glands to become impacted???? Not necessarily, but diet often is a contributing factor to anal gland problems, especially in a cat that doesn't groom well. -L. > Lauren wrote: > >snip> > However, one > >of my cats anal glands became very badly > >impacted and infected from eating Science Diet . > >Lauren > > The food caused the cats glands to become impacted???? Sorry but > LMAO!!!!!! That's nothing... wait! If someone posted a story about how Science Diet gave their Tyrannosaurus Rex diarrhea, "Me Too" Lauren would conjure up a "me too" story about how SD gave her T-Rex diarrhea too! LOL! Phil Why don't you type this *one* more time, because it never gets old... >>Lauren wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Phil >From: "Karen M." mskitty@NOSPAMeasystreet.com >>>Lauren wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> >> Phil >Why don't you type this *one* more time, because it never gets old... Phil really is a broken record, saying the same old crap time after time. He just doesn't want to believe that my cats did so poorly on his cherished Science Diet. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > >From: "Karen M." mskitty@NOSPAMeasystreet.com > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > >Why don't you type this *one* more time, because it never gets old... Always a pleasure: "If someone posted a story about how Science Diet gave their Tyrannosaurus Rex diarrhea, "Me Too" Lauren would conjure up a "me too" story about how SD gave her T-Rex diarrhea too! LOL!" > Phil really is a broken record, saying the same old crap time after time. That's probably because you keep conjuring up "me too" and "he said/she said" bullsh!t stories time after time... He > just doesn't want to believe that my cats did so poorly on his cherished > Science Diet. Sure I believe your cats didn't do well on Science Diet. No single diet works for all cats - otherwise, there be only one brand of cat food.... What I *don't* believe is your plethora of "me too" and "he said/she said" stories for almost *every* negative post about Science Diet in the last one or years!. I don't know of any *100* cats *combined* that experienced 1/50 of the adverse effects you claim your cats experienced from SD.... and I've fed Science diet to literally *thousands* of animals over the last few years! All our vets' *combined* haven't heard as many complaints about SD from all their clients *combined* as you conjure up. Even all the clerks *combined* in all *three* large pet stores where we have adoption centers haven't heard as many complaints from all their Science Diets customers *combined* as you conjure up. If 1/50th of your stories were true, your cats would have been dead *years* ago! Another reason why I'm *sure* your stories are conjured up bullsh!t; most reasonably intelligent and sane people would have switched diets after their cats experienced the *first* or at the most, *second* adverse effect while the cat was being fed a particular diet -- not after *numerous* (I lost count after the first dozen or so) adverse effects... That leaves only two possibilities for your stories: either you're a complete idiot for continuing to feed your cats a diet that produced numerous adverse effects, or you're a compulsive liar and conjured up almost all of your adverse effects stories because of your morbid hatred for Hill's. Which is it? Idiot or liar? Although I don't think you're very bright, I don't think you're a complete idiot, either. That leaves only one reasonable possibility.... you're a *compulsive liar* and that its a safe bet to assume that 99.9% of your negative "me too" and "he said/she said" stories about Science Diet are nothing more than conjured up bullsh!t stories. Don't forget - I remember when you began posting here... Your cats seem to have developed *more* adverse effects from Science Diet *after* you *stopped* feeding them SD than they did when they were *actually& eating SD! What's your explanation for that? A "residual effect"? ROTFL! > Why don't you type this *one* more time, because it never gets old... You're right! The truth never gets old. By request: "If someone posted a story about how Science Diet gave their Tyrannosaurus Rex diarrhea, "Me Too" Lauren would conjure up a "me too" story about how SD gave her T-Rex diarrhea too! LOL!" I was a pleasure.. Phil >>>>>From: gaubster2@aol.com (GAUBSTER2) >>>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > but people kept smelling it on me. It was in my HAIR. EEEEWWWWW!!! > -L. Oh yuuuuuuccccckkkk! LOL!! They should invent a shield for such work!! :) -L, wrote: >*Nothing* grosser. The worst was when I >worked for the vet and would get "squirted" [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >inally just started bringing 4 sets of scrubs with >me to work. I hated that! >Another time, I got squirted and thought I got it >all cleaned up/off, but people kept smelling it on >me. It was in my HAIR. EEEEWWWWW!!! -L. You really needed to learn how to avoid that. After 18 years in the business I have only gotten anal gland material on me maybe 4 times. >When I used to feed SD my cat Audrey was *always* leaking anal gland >liquid hell, on top of other problems. Now, she only does once in a blue >moon *thank god*!! This is a new one! Science Diet causes excessive "anal gland leakage"! LOL More Hill's bashing! > >When I used to feed SD my cat Audrey was *always* leaking anal gland > >liquid hell, on top of other problems. Now, she only does once in a blue > >moon *thank god*!! > > This is a new one! Science Diet causes excessive "anal gland leakage"! LOL > More Hill's bashing! Nice to know *you* can't say something without being a jerk about it... >> >When I used to feed SD my cat Audrey was *always* leaking anal gland >> >liquid hell, on top of other problems. Now, she only does once in a blue [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Nice to know *you* can't say something without being a jerk about it... Just because your post made me laugh doesn't mean I'm a jerk. You really need to relax! LOL! :) |
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