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Are chicken bones OK for cats?

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~Shelly~ - 19 Oct 2003 07:07 GMT
I just read another poster mention giving her cat a drumstick bone to
chew on.  I used to give that to my cats, but a vet told me it wasn't
good for them - he said slivers could become impaled in the mouth,
throat, or even puncture the stomach or intestines.  None of my cats
had never had a problem (that I knew of) with it, but I wasn't willing
to take chances, so I stopped.

Trouble is, even though it's been two years, my cats still know the
smell of chicken and beg and plead for some every time I make a
chicken dinner.  On top of that, we had to stop seeing that particular
vet because his billing practices were suspect, and it has colored my
whole opinion of him.

Have I been denying them for no good reason, or should I continue to
withhold chicken bones?

~Shelly~
Karen - 19 Oct 2003 12:26 GMT
> I just read another poster mention giving her cat a drumstick bone to
> chew on.  I used to give that to my cats, but a vet told me it wasn't
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>
> ~Shelly~

I believe its *cooked* chicken bones that are bade for both cats and dogs
for this reason. Just a note, out dog once got a steak bone lodged between
the inside of the top of her mouth, wedged between the teeth on either side.
It was a bit of a trauma for all concerned. We stopped giving her any bones
at that time.

karen
PawsForThought - 19 Oct 2003 20:19 GMT
>From: Karen kchuplis@alltelPOP.netGOAWAY

>I believe its *cooked* chicken bones that are bade for both cats and dogs
>for this reason. Just a note, out dog once got a steak bone lodged between
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>
>karen

This can happen to dogs, especially ones that tend to gulp their food.  My
sister's dog got one of those rawhide type bones stuck too.
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Liz - 19 Oct 2003 13:19 GMT
If the chicken bone is raw, it´s ok, if it´s cooked, it´s not ok.
Avian bones may break as needles when cooked and cause problems.
Mary - 19 Oct 2003 16:34 GMT
>Have I been denying them for no good reason, or should I continue to
>withhold chicken bones?

Cooked chicken bones get brittle and can easily break into sharp bits. Raw ones
are supposed to be okay. Some say raw chicken is good for cats because it has
natural enzymes which are lost in cooking. I personally don't give my cats any
bones, better safe than sorry. I just give them a little bit of chicken cooked.
The raw idea scares even though I know they eat raw food in nature. My last cat
would sometimes go into the trash and eat an entire cooked chicken carcass. He
ate all the bones but the legs and thighs which he'd just break in two and suck
on. He never had a problem but I wouldn't recommend it. He was a stray street
cat, stoumach of steel.
Alison Perera - 19 Oct 2003 20:00 GMT
> I just read another poster mention giving her cat a drumstick bone to
> chew on.  I used to give that to my cats, but a vet told me it wasn't
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>
> ~Shelly~

Oops, that was probably me and it was irresponsible for me to be so
vague about it. RAW chicken bones, wrapped in plenty of RAW meat, are
minimally risky for a cat to eat. The long bones like drumsticks are
riskier than non-weightbearing bones like backs, necks, and ribs. For ME
and MY animals, the benefits of feeding meat on the bone (especially the
benefits for oral health) far outweigh any risks. When in doubt, take
your vet's advice. And, of course, there's nothing to stop you from
pampering your kitties by offering a little of the cooked meat from your
chicken dinner. :)

I would never feed cooked bones of any kind, poultry or other, to my
cats or dog because of the risk of splintering and the risk of blockage
(cooked bones don't digest as easily as raw).

-Alison in OH
PawsForThought - 19 Oct 2003 20:17 GMT
>From: "~Shelly~" Shelly@local.net

>I just read another poster mention giving her cat a drumstick bone to
>chew on.  I used to give that to my cats, but a vet told me it wasn't
>good for them - he said slivers could become impaled in the mouth,
>throat, or even puncture the stomach or intestines.  None of my cats
>had never had a problem (that I knew of) with it, but I wasn't willing
>to take chances, so I stopped.

Cats should never be given COOKED bones.  RAW bones are fine. My cats are on a
raw diet and do great with bones. But make sure you're giving bones that are
manageable such as chicken wings, cornish hen or quail.  I wouldn't recommend
beef bones.  

Lauren
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Cathy Friedmann - 19 Oct 2003 21:39 GMT
You could give them the occasional treat of some of the chicken itself, sans
bone.

Cathy

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> I just read another poster mention giving her cat a drumstick bone to
> chew on.  I used to give that to my cats, but a vet told me it wasn't
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> ~Shelly~
~Shelly~ - 20 Oct 2003 00:52 GMT
had a question about the safety of chicken bones and cats.

Thanks everyone for helping me out with this.  Now that I know it's
OK, I'll let my kitties go hog-wild on the raw bones whenever
available.  I bet they'll be thanking you, too :-}

~Shelly~
NO Email - 20 Oct 2003 01:24 GMT
> had a question about the safety of chicken bones and cats.
>
> Thanks everyone for helping me out with this.  Now that I know it's
> OK, I'll let my kitties go hog-wild on the raw bones whenever
> available.  I bet they'll be thanking you, too :-}

I would check with your vet before you do this. Most likely none of the
people recommending it have any veterinary or medical training. Your vet
knows best versus some unknown "voice" on the internet.
Cheryl - 20 Oct 2003 01:27 GMT
>> had a question about the safety of chicken bones and cats.
>>
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> the people recommending it have any veterinary or medical training.
> Your vet knows best versus some unknown "voice" on the internet.

I personally have concerns about bones that have been frozen but can't
find anything other than anecdotal accounts saying that frozen bones
will splinter the same as cooked bones.
Marek Williams - 20 Oct 2003 04:48 GMT
>Have I been denying them for no good reason, or should I continue to
>withhold chicken bones?

I've read all the responses from others to your query, and feel I
should voice an opposing view.

I've shared my life with many different cats over more than three
decades. In all that time I have always shared my meals as well, at
least the meat part. And that includes the bones from fried chicken.
(I'm partial to Popeye's spicy chicken.) And none of the cats has ever
had the slightest problem with it.

I should add that I do make sure that I eat all the breading off the
fried chicken before letting the cat have the bone. I've noted that
cats don't seem to like things picante. And besides, the breading is
pretty heavy in carbs and stuff that isn't probably very healthy for
them.

I think the reason they have never had a problem is the same as why I
have never had a chicken bone impale my throat or internal parts. You
see, I just chew the meat off the bone. I don't eat the bone itself.
My cats instinctively do the same thing. I remember one cat who loved
the chicken bones more than most. He would chomp the ends off the
drumstick and other large bones and crunch them down. He would also
gnaw on the rest of the bones to get all traces of meat off them. But
the center portion of the bones were always intact when he was
finished.

My current cat (Old George) is part wolf -- that is, he really bolts
his food down. But when I give him a chicken bone he eats it much more
carefully. I've even seen him spit out pieces of bone, the same as I
do when I accidentally get a bone sliver in my mouth.

There are those who distinguish between cooked and raw bones, claiming
that the cooked bones will splinter. Well, then they'd be dangerous
for me, too. After all, humans have been eating cooked birds only for
a few thousand years. We didn't have kitchens during our evolution.
Most of us critters have figured out how to eat our prey without
causing harm, including humans. It may have taken us a few million
years, but we've got it down. I think cats are just as clever. At
least, all of mine have always handled it easily.

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PawsForThought - 20 Oct 2003 12:30 GMT
>From: Marek Williams abc@example.com

>"~Shelly~" <Shelly@local.net>
>dijo:
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>years, but we've got it down. I think cats are just as clever. At
>least, all of mine have always handled it easily.

Then perhaps you've been lucky.  Cats I've known will eat the cooked bones.
Why take a chance that one will splinter when you can feed the bones raw and
don't have the worry.
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Alison Perera - 20 Oct 2003 13:38 GMT
> There are those who distinguish between cooked and raw bones, claiming
> that the cooked bones will splinter. Well, then they'd be dangerous
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> years, but we've got it down. I think cats are just as clever. At
> least, all of mine have always handled it easily.

If you were to chew and swallow a chicken drumstick, or worse yet eat it
like a carnivore and mash it just enough to get it down your gullet, you
could well be in trouble from sharp points or obstructions. But you're
not a carnivore, and you don't have the right kind of teeth for crushing
bone. You've got teeth for masticating your food well before swallowing.
Bones aren't easily masticated--people don't eat bones. Wild predators,
however, do.

My husband thought my dog would be able to handle a (cooked) T-bone and
gave one to her with lots of scraps of meat on it. He said, "I'll take
it away when she gets done with the meat and starts chewing the bone."
Sam took one look at it and crunched into it. Shards flying. Yes, when I
picked it up and held it for her, discouraging her from eating the bone
part, she figured out how to flea-bite the meat off. I hardly call that
evolution at work.

When my cat gets ahold of a chicken leg quarter he doesn't gently nibble
the meat off the bone. He slices through that bone like it's nothing,
mashing the meat to bits and using his hind molars to scissor off a
piece small enough to gulp down to where his amazing digestion gets
started.

You've been lucky with your cats, but the next reader who comes along
and believes you, that all cats will "instinctively" hold back from
chewing cooked chicken bones, could end up with a dead cat from it.

-Alison in OH
Marek Williams - 22 Oct 2003 01:36 GMT
>You've been lucky with your cats, but the next reader who comes along
>and believes you, that all cats will "instinctively" hold back from
>chewing cooked chicken bones, could end up with a dead cat from it.

OK, let's suppose for a moment that you are right and I've just been
lucky. If chicken bones can kill a cat, then presumably there are some
people who can relate such an event. I'll be more inclined to believe
it if I hear that it actually happened. Otherwise it sounds too much
like an old wives tale to me. A little statistics would help. We could
start right here. There are tons of cat lovers who read this
newsgroup. If anyone has actually lost a cat because the cat ate
chicken bones, please stand up and let us know. Anyone?

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