Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / October 2003
Distilled water and cats
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Riceps - 09 Oct 2003 20:22 GMT Can anyone tell me if distilled water is good or bad for cats? I just bought a Drinkwell fountain. We have very hard well water. We also have a water softener with one faucet that bypasses the softening process. Which water is better for my cat...the softened water, the unsoftened very hard well water, or distilled water? From my research, I THINK it's the distilled but you all are the experts. Thanks for any enlightenment.
Iso - 09 Oct 2003 21:59 GMT Distilled water is known as "empty water". All good minerals, all bacteria and pathogens of all kinds do not exist in the distilled water that is a result of steamed distilled water. When your cat consumes distilled water, the water molecules will attach themselves to minerals and electrolytes in the body. When your cat urinates all of these good items go OUT of the body.
When your cat is in need of getting toxins out of its body, distilled water is a good drink because it aids de-toxing. The empty molecules attach themselves to toxins and help clean the filtering systems in the body right along with the Hemotox and Metaltox and in fact, accelerate the de-toxing process.
Try drinking one or two glasses of distilled water in place of aspirin for a headache. It really works because it thins the blood. You don't want to do this everyday, but it is good for a change and works.
If you prefer to use distilled water on a daily basis, then it is essential that you add back in to your pet's water diet, the minerals and electrolytes that are being flushed out. What we have for this situation is Concentrated Trace Minerals and our Feline Vita Pak.
> Can anyone tell me if distilled water is good or bad for cats? I just > bought a Drinkwell fountain. We have very hard well water. We also have a > water softener with one faucet that bypasses the softening process. Which > water is better for my cat...the softened water, the unsoftened very hard > well water, or distilled water? From my research, I THINK it's the > distilled but you all are the experts. Thanks for any enlightenment. ---MIKE--- - 09 Oct 2003 23:20 GMT I also have well water that contains a lot of iron. If I used that in my drinkwell, it would be a dirty brown color by now so I use spring water. Incidentally, I take Fosamax once a week. I am supposed to drink at least 200ml of water with the pill. They don't recommend hard water or mineral water so I use distilled water to take the pill.
-MIKE
Philip ? - 10 Oct 2003 03:22 GMT > I also have well water that contains a lot of iron. If I used > that in my drinkwell, it would be a dirty brown color by now so I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -MIKE My rheumatologist tried me on Fosamax to attempt offsetting bone loss due to short term high dose oral Prednisone. The Fosamax wreaked havok on my already weakened esophagus. Ultimately, I took the Prednisone with whole milk and luckily, my bone density only dipped a point over 5 months. --
~~Philip "Never let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain"
Cheryl - 09 Oct 2003 23:22 GMT > If you prefer to use distilled water on a daily basis, then it is > essential that you add back in to your pet's water diet, the > minerals and electrolytes that are being flushed out. What we have > for this situation is Concentrated Trace Minerals and our Feline > Vita Pak. Interesting info. I've heard about trying distilled water, possibly for my IBD cat. What is Feline Vita Pak, and are you a sales rep or something for them? Thanks.
Iso - 10 Oct 2003 03:44 GMT I'm not a vet, nor do I play one on TV. I was privy to some test results a few years back when I was working on my PhD. Vita Pak is a powdered substance. You add 1/8 teaspoon per pint of water daily, or it can be added to the soft food daily. It's an all-natural product and is a combination of vitamins and macro-minerals like calcium, magnesium, etc. designed for primarily adult cats. Vita Paks have been formulated for cats of all breeds and sizes, are around $15, and will treat 50 gallons of water. This comes out to 40 cents per gallon of water. Results do vary... You may notice a difference at the liter box, if you know what I mean!
> > If you prefer to use distilled water on a daily basis, then it is > > essential that you add back in to your pet's water diet, the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > for my IBD cat. What is Feline Vita Pak, and are you a sales rep or > something for them? Thanks. -L. - 10 Oct 2003 09:31 GMT > I'm not a vet, nor do I play one on TV. I was privy to some test results a > few years back when I was working on my PhD. Vita Pak is a powdered [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > out to 40 cents per gallon of water. Results do vary... You may notice a > difference at the liter box, if you know what I mean! Where do you get this stuff?
-L.
Mike Romain - 09 Oct 2003 23:28 GMT I had two different friends that ended up in the hospital in severe trouble because they were vegetarians and thought distilled water was the best for them.
They both had mental disorders because of all the minerals and electrolytes the distilled water sucked out of their system. One was bad enough the police had to take her in because she was too violent for an ambulance.
Once they got re-hydrated and mineral/ electrolyte dosed via IV, they were fine with a hard lesson learned.
I tried to tell them, but coming from a meat eater, they didn't want to listen or believe me for a second....
Distilled water as the only water intake can kill humans. They even taught us that back in high school chemistry in the 70's.
I have a water cooler and the makers recommend one bottle of distilled water every six months to clean the mineral build up from the spring water out of the machine. They say the distilled bottle will pick up enough minerals from the machine so as to not harm the drinkers over the use of one bottle every six months.
Mike
> Can anyone tell me if distilled water is good or bad for cats? I just > bought a Drinkwell fountain. We have very hard well water. We also have a > water softener with one faucet that bypasses the softening process. Which > water is better for my cat...the softened water, the unsoftened very hard > well water, or distilled water? From my research, I THINK it's the > distilled but you all are the experts. Thanks for any enlightenment. JLove98905 - 10 Oct 2003 02:55 GMT I work in a lab at MIT and the management considered putting in a reverse osmosis distilled water system for employees to drink. This didn't go over very well among the scientific staff.
This system removes all of the ions, minerals, etc, from the water and it ends up being a lot like super-distilled water. When this water is consumed and applied to the body's cells, the environment for the cells is said to be "hyptonic." This means that the ionic concentrations are lower outside the cell than inside (undertonic, if you will). In an effort to maintain equilibrium, water rushes into the cells and can cause them to explode. The ions and minerals in the water are therefore essential to the health of the drinker for daily consumption and cooking, etc. I found the idea of using deionized water to detoxify or cure a hangover very interesting, though. I'll have to give that a try! I wouldn't make it a daily habit, though, as was mentioned before. Perhaps you could run your hard water through a Brita filter or something like that, to filter out some but not all of the ions? -Jen Half the people you know are below average. -Steven Wright
-L. - 10 Oct 2003 04:15 GMT > I had two different friends that ended up in the hospital in severe > trouble because they were vegetarians and thought distilled water was > the best for them. If one has a complete and balanced diet, distilled water is perfectly fine to drink.
-L.
Philip ? - 10 Oct 2003 17:52 GMT > > I had two different friends that ended up in the hospital in > > severe trouble because they were vegetarians and thought [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -L. From the posts in this thread, it would appear that distilled water would leach out essential minerals from a balanced diet, rendering it imbalanced. What did I miss? --
~~Philip "Never let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain"
guynoir - 11 Oct 2003 06:55 GMT References. Like this one: http://www.cyber-nook.com/water/distilledwater.htm
> From the posts in this thread, it would appear that distilled water > would leach out essential minerals from a balanced diet, rendering it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ~~Philip "Never let school interfere > with your education - Mark Twain" William Hamblen - 10 Oct 2003 05:47 GMT >Can anyone tell me if distilled water is good or bad for cats? I just >bought a Drinkwell fountain. We have very hard well water. We also have a >water softener with one faucet that bypasses the softening process. Which >water is better for my cat...the softened water, the unsoftened very hard >well water, or distilled water? From my research, I THINK it's the >distilled but you all are the experts. Thanks for any enlightenment. Many water softeners work by exchanging sodium ions for the calcium and magnesium ions that make water hard, so softened water can contain more sodium than is good for the animal (or the people) to drink, but doesn't hurt when washing or bathing. Some water softeners work on a different principle and don't increase the sodium. Check the instruction book for your unit.
Old Doctor Griffith once told me he thought that hard water promoted FUS because of the magnesium dissolved in the water, and FUS does vary geographically. The water is hard here and vets see a lot of FUSy cats.
Some people claim that distilled water washes the minerals out of your body owing to the lack of dissolved minerals, but the minerals in body fluids are more concentrated than the minerals in any drinking water, so all water would wash away minerals by that line of reasoning. In plain fact, healthy bodies human or feline do a good job of regulating minerals when adequately nourished.
The only thing I can say definitely is that if your water softener is one that exchanges sodium for calcium and magnesium I would avoid drinking softened water.
rrb_091903 - 10 Oct 2003 07:36 GMT > Can anyone tell me if distilled water is good or bad for cats? I just > bought a Drinkwell fountain. We have very hard well water. We also have a > water softener with one faucet that bypasses the softening process. Which > water is better for my cat...the softened water, the unsoftened very hard > well water, or distilled water? From my research, I THINK it's the > distilled but you all are the experts. Thanks for any enlightenment. Hello. Regardless of what anyone else *may* have told you. To be sure you have to have each water source tested independanty. In general minerals can be bad for your cat - especially if your water contains high levels of magnesium, calcium, or phosphates. The calcium/phosphate ratio is also of importance I have heard. Distilled water contains fewer minerals but short of testing the water no certainty can be determined.
Mary - 10 Oct 2003 14:39 GMT On the other hand, alley cats drinking rainwater from gutters live to ripe old ages some times. Let's get real here. Distilled vs tap water? If your local water analysis says it is safe for you it is fine for your cat. Jeeze, people.
> > Can anyone tell me if distilled water is good or bad for cats? I just > > bought a Drinkwell fountain. We have very hard well water. We also have a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > ratio is also of importance I have heard. Distilled water contains fewer > minerals but short of testing the water no certainty can be determined. Riceps - 10 Oct 2003 16:54 GMT Sorry if my question offended you. I would venture to say there are many things that I can eat or drink that would NOT be safe for my cat. I asked the question because I was hoping not to clog the fountain with lots of mineral deposits, etc, from our hard water but without giving the cat something harmful. I always thought "there's no such thing as a stupid question."
And I doubt that very many alley cats live to ripe old ages for many reasons including drinking filthy gutter water.
Sherry - 12 Oct 2003 07:26 GMT >Sorry if my question offended you. I would venture to say there are many >things that I can eat or drink that would NOT be safe for my cat. I asked [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >And I doubt that very many alley cats live to ripe old ages for many reasons >including drinking filthy gutter water. Goodness, don't apologize. I thought the thread you started was very interesting. And you're right, just like an iron gets clogged from minerals, so would the water dispenser. Another thing it made me think about is, I do know a man who has recurring kidney (or maybe bladder?) stones, and was instructed by his MD to drink only distilled water. It wouuld seem logical that it's also a good idea for *cats* who likewise havve urinary problems.
Sherry
PawsForThought - 12 Oct 2003 16:56 GMT >From: sriddles@aol.comkitty (Sherry )
>Goodness, don't apologize. I thought the thread you started was very >interesting. And you're right, just like an iron gets clogged from minerals, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >his MD to drink only distilled water. It wouuld seem logical that it's also a >good idea for *cats* who likewise havve urinary problems. We use reverse osmosis water and then add in 1 oz of willard water to 1 gallon of water. The willard water has fossilized organics in it that contain minerals, as well as other ingredients. We've been using this for many, many years and have never had a problem.
http://www.dr-willardswater.com/caw.html
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Philip ? - 10 Oct 2003 17:52 GMT > On the other hand, alley cats drinking rainwater from gutters live > to ripe old ages some times. Let's get real here. Distilled vs tap > water? If your local water analysis says it is safe for you it is > fine for your cat. Jeeze, people. I am inclined to agree (with the exception of places where chloramine is used in place of chlorine). I live in southern CA where tap water is decidedly "hard" and in nearly 60 yrs of having cats in and out of my life, have never had one experience a urinary stoppage.
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~~Philip "Never let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain"
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