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I am afraid of my cat! HELP ME!! (long!)
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patti - 08 Oct 2003 05:04 GMT I have several questions for you cat folks--a little background first: 6 years ago I adopted a stray--I did not want to (I was previously a dog person). The cat showed up pathetic and skinny and we were having an ice storm so I fed it and eventually gave it a place to live in the laundry room (we lived on a really busy street). The cat is unusally big and pretty--my plan was to just feed it until i found an owner (YARITE--you know how THAT goes!) ---it would bite my feet whenever I would do the laundry---trying to get my attention etcetera. Luckily I was always wearing footwear. My friend told me that it is definately a "calico" cat and therefore it HAD to be female. From the very beginning it has been ridiculously aggressive but once I decided it was mine I thought I would killit with kindness!! give it love love love to prove a point if to no one else to myself. (I was kind of dumb but my method did actually work to a point) I named her ginger (short for gingersnap) and sure enough ginger has always KIND OF liked me ---despite also biting and scratching me from time to time. I always forgave her quickly and "self-diagnosed" her as having "affection aggression disorder". (you can be petting her and then BLAM! she bites ya!) I could never get ginger in a carrier so I have never had her innoculated for anything. (sorry--but she has huge fangs and claws and the more I don't try to control her the better) anyway!! when I moved in with my fella he said I could keep ginger but not in the house (this was a relief because I did not want to get rid of her --- it was a neat compromise) I managed to get her into a carboard box to move her (not without alot of trepidation). In her new neighborhood ginger terrorized everyone in their own yards!! I apologized to all the neighbors and the neighbors have accepted ginger's behavior pretty much--(though she was always picking on neighbor cats--even teeney ones in their own yard!!) Here is what brings me to today's post--- for about three weeks ginger has been different--she hasn't been fighting and she has been sleeping alot. I thought this was GREAT! She also was always on the front porch but just a couple days ago it became plain that she was VERY hurt. She could barely walk so I don't know how (maybe she knew it was best) but I put her in the box and took her to her first vet appointment.---the vet found that ginger had a good sized bite on her leg and so he gave her five shots (all the ones cats are supposed to have plus an antiboitic) She handled all this well, came home sat quietly in the yard --now here is the OTHER thing--------the doctor told me that ginger is a neutered male!!! bet you saw that coming eh??? That was yesterday--today she---er HE is REALLY mean even to me (her "mommy") I have been leaving him alone (well that's not hard given that he is hissing and growling even much more than usual) ---I just don't know what to think---she --oops he is sitting in the yard and i am of course just watching carefully and hoping this is healing time and my ginger will return to me (emotionally). I used to be able to pick ginger up--but not today!!! I am wondering if he has had this infection for a long time (and that is why he was sleeping more??) also--no other cat have been able to best ginger! in four years this is the first injury recieved despite many encounters. right now I am scared to death of him and I think some of this has to do with learning the new gender!!!!!! when I thought it was a female I really felt very sorry for it---now I realize it was a very very territorial male not a mixed up female and my whole feeling toward ginger has changed. --do you have any suggestions for me in how to feel confident (once again) in his midst? when it was a "girl" I felt I had her somewhat "tamed" and now I am just plum scared of him!! does he sense that do you think??? do you think I should still call him ginger?? Do you think he has had the infection for a really long time and that is why he was sleeping? do you think he'll get better --and what do you think i should watch for now --what would be the normal course of healing? thank you so much for reading all this!!! anything you can offer is appreciated.
Iso - 08 Oct 2003 05:19 GMT Long post, but worth the read... Since you never took Ginger to the vet for shots, check up's or any castration, who can really say what could be the problem. It literally could be anything. Granted the bite on its leg doesn't help, who knows. I wouldn't be afraid of the cat one bit. It's not a tiger cub and it can only do so much damage. Remember, you (for the most part) control Ginger's life (i.e. feeding, care taking.). Regardless, the cat will come around when it wants.
> I have several questions for you cat folks--a little background first: > 6 years ago I adopted a stray--I did not want to (I was previously a [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > thank you so much for reading all this!!! anything you can offer is > appreciated. m. L. Briggs - 08 Oct 2003 18:41 GMT >Long post, but worth the read... Since you never took Ginger to the vet for >shots, check up's or any castration, who can really say what could be the [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] >> thank you so much for reading all this!!! anything you can offer is >> appreciated. Many, many years ago I had a male orange cat named Ginger. He was not neutered (didn't do it in those days). He was indoors/outdoors and a very good cat. He (unfortunately) developed an abcess from a bite of some kind and even though the Vet lanced and drained it, it just would not heal (before antibiotics). I suggest you use a spray bottle to spray your Ginger when he comes for your feet. Of course he feels your fear -- animals do. You have to show him you are master. Cats don't like lous noises so when you say No - make it loud.Some cats are lap cats - some are not. My Ginger was not although he liked to be petted. Give him toys to play with to distract him from you. Read some bookds on cat training. Good luck.
patti - 08 Oct 2003 20:09 GMT thanks iso---new problem today--i am still scared of him --he is hissing and more than likely he really does need a return trip to the vets. as you say maybe his problem is more than what seems so obvious (the bite) he is worse than he was when i took him to the vet --he won't move. he hasn't eaten much--i figured i would give him another day but i hardly want him out there in the pouring rain---can you or someone tell me how to use a tarp method to contain him? i guess i should toss something over him to put him in a container--(i really do not want to get bitten and believe me he weighs 17 pounds and has teeth 1/2 inch long so he DOES seem like a fierce animal when he is mad and he's mad--!!) advise on capturing him--? he is not hungry enough to fall for the food in the back of a trap thing.
> Long post, but worth the read... Since you never took Ginger to the vet for > shots, check up's or any castration, who can really say what could be the [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > thank you so much for reading all this!!! anything you can offer is > > appreciated. Iso - 08 Oct 2003 22:09 GMT I have always had success using a heavy pool/beach towel. That particular type of towel is rather thick. You can use an old comforter from a bed, or any thick blanket or sheet that you really aren't using anymore to contain the cat. I wait until the cat is in a resting state, and then use the element of surprise to your advantage. Just throw the blanket or comforter over the cat when you are rather close. Then quickly wrap the cat up. If you are nervous about getting your hands bitten, you can use a pair of utility gloves that you may garden or do lawn work with. Once you have its head and body covered with a towel or comforter, just grab the torso of the cat and wrap the blanket quickly around its torso so, its appendages are tied up (so it cannot scratch you). Then uncover his head, so he can breathe. Then the choice is yours regarding finding a box or cat carrier to put him in. You can even leave him wrapped in the blanket, as long as someone else drives to the vet. Of course, he's going to be loud and probably initially try to bite. It may hiss, and scream, however this is just display of his disapproval of what is going on. He may also soil the blanket, so you may want to find something you really don't have a need for anymore. As long as you keep him in a cage, or completely wrapped in the towel you will be fine. Also, you will want to alert the vet to the situation of not having a people friendly cat. They will administer a sedative to calm him, so they can further evaluate the situation. Good Luck!
> thanks iso---new problem today--i am still scared of him --he is > hissing and more than likely he really does need a return trip to the [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > > > thank you so much for reading all this!!! anything you can offer is > > > appreciated. Kathryn Stein - 10 Oct 2003 19:37 GMT >thanks iso---new problem today--i am still scared of him --he is >hissing and more than likely he really does need a return trip to the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >mad and he's mad--!!) advise on capturing him--? he is not hungry >enough to fall for the food in the back of a trap thing. I think the huge towel over him and quickly scooping him into a carrier is the best way to go. I'd also wear gardening gloves just in case.
Also, I don't remember in your original message about the vet visit whether you had his blood tested.
Liz - 08 Oct 2003 16:06 GMT This is what I mean by emotional trauma. An animal treated with violence will become violent. Definitively his previous owner was a jerk. Now the cat thinks all humans are alike. I´d diagnose him as borderline and that´s about the hardest thing to deal with in psychiatry. I had a cat just like that before. My sister had found her in the streets with half her tail missing and an abdominal hernia and brought her home. At the time she was about two or three months old. I could not keep her indoors because she would bother and fight with my other cats all the time so I kept her outside. It came to a point where I no longer touched her because she would bite and scratch out of thin air. I just made sure she had water and food and a nice place to sleep. She was poisoned and died about three years ago. :( I hope someone here has good advice as how to "cure" this cat if this is anywhere possible.
dgk - 08 Oct 2003 19:56 GMT >I have several questions for you cat folks--a little background first: >6 years ago I adopted a stray--I did not want to (I was previously a >dog person). The cat showed up pathetic and skinny and we were having >an ice storm so I fed it and eventually gave it a place to live in the >laundry room (we lived on a really busy street). The cat is unusally >big and pretty--my plan was to just feed it until i found an owner As for the name, Ginger is fine. Don't go changing his name now. I think his behavior is ok for one day after the vet visit. There are all kinds of smells and stuff and he might be feeling hung over from the injections. Antibiotics make me feel funny sometimes too and he had lots of other stuff.
Give him the followup pills as scheduled and treat the wound as best you can. It is certainly likely that an infection would make him sleepy and sluggish. It does that to most of us I would think. Post a picture somewhere and let us see this beast.
Steve G - 08 Oct 2003 22:58 GMT (...)
> thing--------the doctor told me that ginger is a neutered male!!! bet > you saw that coming eh??? The penis is the clue.
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> encounters. right now I am scared to death of him and I think some of > this has to do with learning the new gender!!!!!! when I thought it > was a female I really felt very sorry for it---now I realize it was a > very very territorial male not a mixed up female and my whole feeling > toward ginger has changed. --do you have any suggestions for me in how > to feel confident (once again) in his midst? As a neutered cat, he is, in many ways, neither 'he' nor 'she'; once neutered, male and female cats don't generally differ a great deal in personality. The fact he once possessed bollocks is basically irrelevant. Just think of him as 'cat', if you like.
> when it was a "girl" I > felt I had her somewhat "tamed" and now I am just plum scared of him!! He's still the same cat.
> does he sense that do you think??? He may sense that you are fearful.
> do you think I should still call him ginger?? Why wouldn't you? You can call him Britney Spears if you like. He won't complain.
Steve.
Barb 1 - 09 Oct 2003 01:12 GMT First of all maybe Ginger was attacked by a dog or even a wild animal-rat, squirrel or something.
Many of your questions were good and if you read your own post you could see that some of them could best be answered by the vet.
I commend you for sticking by Ginger and I hope you can solve all his problems. Male cats can be very affectionate, you know. They don't have to be scary.
-- Barb I can only please one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
MacCandace - 09 Oct 2003 03:45 GMT << do you think he'll get better --and what do you think i should watch for now --what would be the normal course of healing? thank you so much for reading all this!!! anything you can offer is appreciated. >>
Yes, I would still call him Ginger. Many cats feel ill from their shots for a couple of days. They have a reaction to them and if he got 5, he probably definltely is feeling under the weather. Sometimes it hurts at the injection site and they also can develop flu-like symptoms. He probably doesn't feel like being picked up now. Don't be afraid of him. Male cats are very sweet, often sweeter than females of that species. I'm sure he'll get back to normal soon. If not, you'll have to take him back to the vet. It's too bad he has to live outside as these injuries may keep happening...or worse.
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patti - 09 Oct 2003 20:08 GMT good lord you people are AWESOME!!! thanks so much to everyone who answered me! ginger is hiding under the tool shed now she/he (LOL) did eat 1/2 a plate of food today--so that's good right???? i can not thank you all enough for all the advise and the encouragement. i really am emotionally attached to ginger and all this all been breaking my heart. you are a compassionate bunch. when i talk to my "real life" friends and relatives they all really don't give a rip (especially because ginger has been so "obnoxious"). what a neat thing to come in from kneeling under the tool shed and then coming in to cry my eyes out and THEN to find all these replies. i feel SO MUCH better--but ginger doesn't!! LOL (he is getting worse and has never hidden like this before) i really hope you are all correct about all the injections making him feel bad---how long should i give him before i TRY to get him out from under the tool shed (i can't even reach him now --its not "accessible" but at least i know WHERE he is) he had the shots on monday--he has eaten everyday but every day it has gotten less in quanity. MORE advise gratefully accepted!! :)
zuzu22@webtv.net - 09 Oct 2003 20:38 GMT If Ginger is this unwell four days after getting shots, it's best that you get him out from under the shed *now* and get him to the vet ASAP. This doesn't sound good.
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MacCandace - 10 Oct 2003 02:07 GMT << If Ginger is this unwell four days after getting shots, it's best that you get him out from under the shed *now* and get him to the vet ASAP. This doesn't sound good. >>
I agree. I wasn't aware that Ginger was eating less everyday or that this all occurred on Monday. I think 48 hours is about tops to feel sick from injections so this has gone on longer than that. I know it's stressful and all but it sounds like he needs to be seen again. One of my late cats did get pretty sick from her vaccines once and it persisted for a few days. We ahd to take her back to get a dexamethasone shot (steroid) and then she was okay.
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Sherry - 10 Oct 2003 05:21 GMT >I agree. I wasn't aware that Ginger was eating less everyday or that this >all [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Candace Same thing happened to Yoda, but we couldn't get him back eating and he nearly died from hepatic lipidosis. I agree, the cat has *got* to be taken to the vet, pronto.
Sherry
Cate - 09 Oct 2003 20:47 GMT i feel SO MUCH
> better--but ginger doesn't!! LOL (he is getting worse and has never > hidden like this before) i really hope you are all correct about all > the injections making him feel bad---how long should i give him before > i TRY to get him out from under the tool shed Patti, please know that it's perfectly acceptable to phone the vet, describe the cat's symptoms, and ask if another visit is warranted, ok? It's ok--and even desirable--to get some help in determining when it's bad enough to see a doctor.
No one online can see your cat to assess it, and none of us can know how well you might be assessing the situation. So please take advantage of a free phone call (if it's local) to your vet's office and ask them what they think, ok? Ask about the injections, about the hiding (which is very common, but tell the vet so he/she can have the full picture of the symptoms), about the not eating for a while.
I myself have had a *very* aggressive cat, so I completely empathize with your situation. I'm so glad Ginger is eating again--that's great news.
Cate
patti - 10 Oct 2003 02:48 GMT will do cate--! calling tomorrow
> i feel SO MUCH > > better--but ginger doesn't!! LOL (he is getting worse and has never [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Cate Cate - 10 Oct 2003 03:44 GMT > will do cate--! calling tomorrow Great. Please let us know what happens. And don't forget to ask your vet how to tell in future if your guy needs medical attention. Warning signs, symptoms occurring more than x days, etc.
Good luck!
Cate
-L. - 10 Oct 2003 09:30 GMT > good lord you people are AWESOME!!! thanks so much to everyone who > answered me! ginger is hiding under the tool shed now she/he (LOL) did [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > shots on monday--he has eaten everyday but every day it has gotten > less in quanity. MORE advise gratefully accepted!! :) The cat may be having an extended reaction to the vaccinations, or something else. I would coax him out with some STINKY canned sardines, plop him in a carrier and get him back to the vet asap! Don't wait or you may have a dead cat under your shed.
best of luck, -L.
Cheryl - 10 Oct 2003 01:36 GMT In news:3ee97583.0310072004.6c124919@posting.google.com, patti
>I am scared to death of him and [...] I'm glad you got some good advice. I just wanted to say it is perfectly natural to be afraid of cats sometimes; I have a very aggressive one and he scares me at times. I know he loves me (he shows it often) but he gets moods where he will attack me and I'm sure it has to do with his past which I know nothing of. I had to learn ways to redirect his aggression with something like toys, or the laser pointer has worked the best.
patti - 10 Oct 2003 23:08 GMT update--my dear cat friends--ginger is REALLY sick and too far back under the shed for me to get to HIM--the vet agrees i need to get him back to him (no he did no diagnostic blood tests)--so i have a call into "critter gitter" he is a one-man business and i reallllly hope he is not out of town--i would try to squeeze under there but i do not fit!! at this point i am certainly not afraid of him (although he could probably STILL take out my eye or something)---i am really stressed out and depressed over this! i am tying to remain positive--at least i DO know WHERE he is!!! now all i need is for critter gitter to call me--he uses a snare i guess. thanks to all i will let you know what happens next!
zuzu22@webtv.net - 10 Oct 2003 23:44 GMT If the critter guy doesn't call is it possible for you to safely cut through the floor of the shed close to where Ginger is? Or maybe use a long broom handle to nudge him and get him to move closer to you? Also, did you let him know that you have a very sick animal that needs immediate medical attention? If not it would be good to call back and let him know. He may get back to you sooner. I hope you can work this out quickly.
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patti - 11 Oct 2003 04:58 GMT i thought of that floor bit!!! but luckily i didnt have to do that! finally finally finally and who knows why he came out today and i got him! he is at the vet and i get to call in the am about 10:30 he might have some diagnostics done by then! all you folks from this board were so great!! i have no idea whats wrong with him but he sure has a better chance NOW!!! thanks all for HELPING me!!!
Mary - 11 Oct 2003 12:42 GMT I'm so happy Ginger is getting help. Bless you for taking such good care of him. Keep us informed, he is an interesting boy. We still want pics, too!
> i thought of that floor bit!!! but luckily i didnt have to do that! > finally finally finally and who knows why he came out today and i got > him! he is at the vet and i get to call in the am about 10:30 he might > have some diagnostics done by then! all you folks from this board were > so great!! i have no idea whats wrong with him but he sure has a > better chance NOW!!! thanks all for HELPING me!!! Karen M. - 12 Oct 2003 01:09 GMT > i thought of that floor bit!!! but luckily i didnt have to do that! > finally finally finally and who knows why he came out today and i got > him! he is at the vet and i get to call in the am about 10:30 he might > have some diagnostics done by then! all you folks from this board were > so great!! i have no idea whats wrong with him but he sure has a > better chance NOW!!! thanks all for HELPING me!!! Hopefully you'll have some good new soon! Let us know! I'll keep my fingers crossed... Karen
Barb 1 - 11 Oct 2003 22:05 GMT Glad you got Ginger out and to the vet. Do keep us posted.
-- Barb I can only please one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
Sara - 11 Oct 2003 00:08 GMT Patti, first of all THANK YOU for taking in Ginger and giving him a home!
I hope he is much better by now - please let us know what is going on.
Here is some advice which I hope will help you a little bit when Ginger is feeling better and things are getting back to normal.
I also have an adopted stray, Freckles, who can be aggressive - this one is a female who has been living with me for about 7 years. I found her when she was about 2. She exhibited some of the signs you talk about - loving and then biting and scratching for no apparent reason. She had a nasty looking healed scar on her flank when I found her, and I think she may have been abused.
While she is not a 100% "puddy-tat" kitty, she is a lot calmer now. Cats (my cats, anyway) have control issues. They like to feel that they are in control, and those that have not been treated well do NOT trust people.
What worked, more or less, for Freckles and me was for me to let Freckles know that SHE was in control. That means:
- I sit beside her and talk to her, without petting, unless she makes it clear she wanted to be petted.
- I stop petting when she tells me she wants me to stop.
- When I pick her up, I put her down when she asks to be put down.
By following this pattern, she VERY SLOWLY got to trust me more and more. A lot of the aggressive behavior stopped.
Freckles - and maybe your Ginger - seems to have very sensitive skin. About three or four pats, and she's done. In contrast, my other cat Muffin can be patted for hours and still want more. What I am trying to say is, they are not all alike.
Now you are probably asking, how does the cat TELL ME to stop petting? Watch his ears and his tail. Ears going back is a sign that he's had enough, as is fidgeting and tail twitching. Ginger will teach you his body language if you watch how he reacts to things.
Freckles and I still have a few disagreements. The major one is that I've never gotten her to agree to be a totally indoor kitty. I'm sure she could tell you lots of things I do wrong! But all in all, we get along well and she felt secure enough to accept a "new sister" last year.
Hope some of this helps.
Sara
>I have several questions for you cat folks--a little background first: >6 years ago I adopted a stray--I did not want to (I was previously a [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >thank you so much for reading all this!!! anything you can offer is >appreciated. patti - 14 Oct 2003 03:50 GMT hi everyone---well ginger is still at the vet--i THINK he may come home tomorrow maybe--(?) the vet said he had a super elevated white blood count and has had some hard stools. he has ruled out a whole bunch of stuff like feline leukemia and feline aids and distemper etc etc--he gave him a steroid shot (i THINK thats what he said?? a really strong anti inflammatory) ginger is still not using his back legs properly. the vet himself seems perplexed. he said all the other stuff in his blood is good so he doesnt have renal problems etc etc...... the vet said i can maybe take him home tomorrow despite his not moving around properly yet and i can just keep him contained. thanks AGAIN all you super cat loving friends!! thanks sara for all that good advise---about how to let ginger know he IS the boss and will remain so!!! (hopefully!!!! i mean is he going to go from being the holy terror he is/was to just dragging around his rear legs--????-THAT would be pathetic!!) i will try to dig up a photo somehow--he really IS a beauty--but of course i say that cause i'm "his mommy" lol---you are all so nice to say i deserve "credit" for taking him in--and many times i have thought that TOO!!! (especially when he has taken a chunk outta my hand!!) lol---but ginger has taught me more than i have taught him. i am the lucky one. you are a great bunch of folks!!! later pals! p
-L. - 14 Oct 2003 06:14 GMT > hi everyone---well ginger is still at the vet--i THINK he may come > home tomorrow maybe--(?) the vet said he had a super elevated white [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > you are a great bunch of folks!!! later pals! > p I'm wondering if they hit a nerve when they did his vax. If he's developed paralysis, it could be a number of things - blood clot, nerve damage, vax reaction. One of my dogs could hardly walk (front legs) after a severe vax reaction - she was like that for over a week. Whatever it is, I hope Ginger recovers - this is terrible!
-L.
Karen M. - 14 Oct 2003 20:50 GMT > hi everyone---well ginger is still at the vet--i THINK he may come > home tomorrow maybe--(?) the vet said he had a super elevated white [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > you are a great bunch of folks!!! later pals! > p I'm glad they've ruled some of the nasty stuff out. Has the vet done any neurological tests on him? or suggested a specialist? Me and the crew weill continue to keep our fingers and paws crossed for Ginger.
xo, K
Barb 1 - 15 Oct 2003 00:44 GMT This is discouraging, poor little fellow. Thinking of you guys,
-- Barb I can only please one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
patti - 17 Oct 2003 05:39 GMT update update update!!!!! ginger is much much much better !!! YAHOOOO YAHOOOO YAHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! the vet said he has to stay in for a whole week--he walks PRACTICALLY ok today and he is nearly back to normal because he hissed at my significant other today!!!! LOL LOL--that's NORMAL for ginger!! i will find a photo tomorrow and post it! thanks everyone you all helped me so much! now i have to try to learn to pick him up by his scruff if and when he gets onry---but that's hard for me --i'll have to practice on a coat or something first! :)
Karen M. - 17 Oct 2003 05:59 GMT Yay! Be careful picking him up by the scruff. There's a right way and a wrong way, and I could never figure out the difference, so I try not to do it. :) Others on here know, though. I'm so glad Ginger is doing better. Oh, if the vet showed you how, can you try to describe it on here??? :)
> update update update!!!!! ginger is much much much better !!! YAHOOOO > YAHOOOO YAHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! the vet said he has to stay in for a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that's hard for me --i'll have to practice on a coat or something > first! :) -L. - 17 Oct 2003 21:11 GMT > Yay! Be careful picking him up by the scruff. There's a right way and a > wrong way, and I could never figure out the difference, so I try not to > do it. :) Others on here know, though. I'm so glad Ginger is doing > better. Oh, if the vet showed you how, can you try to describe it on > here??? :) You can scruff a cat safely, but the body always has to be supported from below. Never pick up a cat by scruff alone.
-L.
Iso - 17 Oct 2003 21:18 GMT I agree, the second photo I attached to my post above details how to handle its hind legs.
> > Yay! Be careful picking him up by the scruff. There's a right way and a > > wrong way, and I could never figure out the difference, so I try not to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -L. Karen M. - 17 Oct 2003 22:57 GMT >>Yay! Be careful picking him up by the scruff. There's a right way and a >>wrong way, and I could never figure out the difference, so I try not to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -L. So that's the difference? LOL! I thought there was a special place on the back of the neck to scruff or something! Yes, I always support the bottom when picking up (though I rarely do this anyway). :) Thanks guys!
K
Mary - 17 Oct 2003 17:28 GMT > update update update!!!!! ginger is much much much better !!! YAHOOOO > YAHOOOO YAHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! the vet said he has to stay in for a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that's hard for me --i'll have to practice on a coat or something > first! :) Man, Patti, this is just great!!! I had a mean cat once. I loved her anyway. :-) Can't wait to see some pics! Give Ginger a headrub for me!
-L. - 17 Oct 2003 21:13 GMT > update update update!!!!! ginger is much much much better !!! YAHOOOO > YAHOOOO YAHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! the vet said he has to stay in for a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that's hard for me --i'll have to practice on a coat or something > first! :) One way to handle an agitated cat is to throw a towel over it, and quickly scoop it up, with the head away from you. Grab it under the arms and support the legs so that it can't kick, and can't turn around to bite. Having the towel covering its head works. I have handled numerous mean cats this way.
-L.
patti - 22 Oct 2003 01:42 GMT hi everyone--i haven't posted any links before so i don't know if this will work or not--this is ginger--2nd photo was yesterday his first day out of the brig and that is BLOOD on his face!! he got in a fight apparently while i went to the grocery store!! so i took him BACK to the vet again and sure enough he had a bite mark on his back---what a deliquent! look how ticked he looked! the blood on his face turned out to belong to his opponent apparently! i apologized again to all the neighbors--the vet gave me a scruff lesson (ginger is so big its hard for me to get the knack of it) he is at 16 pounds. anyway--let me know if these links don't work i will try something else--thanks again everyone--i really know he used up one of his nine but you were wonderful helping me!!!
http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/xy2/ginger.jpg http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/xy2/gingera.jpg http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/xy2/gingerb.jpg http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/xy2/gingerc.jpg
Cheryl - 22 Oct 2003 02:10 GMT > http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/xy2/ginger.jpg > http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/xy2/gingera.jpg > http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/xy2/gingerb.jpg > http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/xy2/gingerc.jpg He is BEAUTIFUL! I especially like the sign you hung out. lol Purrs that he settles down soon and stops fighting. :(
Linda E - 22 Oct 2003 03:10 GMT He's a beauty!
Linda
> hi everyone--i haven't posted any links before so i don't know if this > will work or not--this is ginger--2nd photo was yesterday his first [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/xy2/gingerb.jpg > http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/xy2/gingerc.jpg Sara - 22 Oct 2003 19:13 GMT He is a lovely, lovely baby boy! And I that sign is GREAT!
Sara
>hi everyone--i haven't posted any links before so i don't know if this >will work or not--this is ginger--2nd photo was yesterday his first [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/xy2/gingerb.jpg >http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/xy2/gingerc.jpg Steve G - 22 Oct 2003 22:37 GMT > hi everyone--i haven't posted any links before so i don't know if this > will work or not--this is ginger(...) > > http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/xy2/ginger.jpg But but but ... he's not ginger!
Looks downright evil, too. 'ave your arm off soon as look at you.
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Er, I mean ... um ... he's all fluffy! And obviously very gentle. I imagine his teeth are made of rubber, too. Harmless.
Steve.
patti - 23 Oct 2003 03:37 GMT thanks everyone for saying he is purdy!! he is ---isn't he??? what is funny is when someone goes to pet him and they get about as far as "what a prit------tee--" and then they snap their hand back in a big hurry! happens often and lotsa unsuspecting people think the sign is a JOKE--you know like he is a real docile cat and i am trying to call attention to how really the opposite of the sign he is---- hardi har har!!!! so i wrote "not kidding" on the sign in an effort to save the mailman some grief.
---hey!!! ginger did much better today!! MUCH MUCH better no fights at all--wahoo!!! thanks for saying he's pretty---i do love the li'l feller :)
steve---someone told me about the drummer with cream --his first name was GINGER! (well he was from the UK---and it was the 60's---) so since i have had ginger for 6 years i am going to tell everyone HE is named for ginger baker--world class 60's drummer!!! (seems almost appropriate actually---i understand he was a rough around the collar kind of guy!!!---well hell you'd have to be if you were a guy named ginger!)
> > hi everyone--i haven't posted any links before so i don't know if this > > will work or not--this is ginger(...) [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Steve.
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