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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / November 2003Keeping cat out of room.
I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep her ou of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am afraid of stepping on her. I have tried just saying "NO", using a squirt gun and shaking a can with coins,but nothing is working . Does anyone have any suggestions? JH >I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep her ou >of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am afraid of >stepping on her. >I have tried just saying "NO", using a squirt gun and shaking a can with >coins,but nothing is working . Does anyone have any suggestions? >JH She is still a baby, and wants to be with you. If it were me, I'd just resolve to be more careful and watch out for her. Please don't squirt her just for coming in the room with her; she probably just thinks you're being mean to her. If you absolutely can't keep from stepping on her, get a baby gate to restrict her access to the kitchen until she's older. Sherry > I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep > her ou of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > suggestions? > JH Step on the cat a few times ... but hopefully you don't put your full weight on her paw. Pain is a powerful teacher. -- ~~Philip "Never let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain" A baby gate won't work. Any 6 month old kitten would be able to climb over it. I tried this with Tiger (to keep him separated from Amber) and he just climbed over it. I had to make a good sized shelf over the top of the gate to keep him in his room. -MIKE > A baby gate won't work. Any 6 month old kitten would be able to climb > over it. I tried this with Tiger (to keep him separated from Amber) and > he just climbed over it. I had to make a good sized shelf over the top > of the gate to keep him in his room. > > -MIKE My sister bought two extra-tall gates from Drs. Foster and Smith and mounted them one on top of the other. Together, they completely fill the doorway. On the other hand, they are made of plastic mesh which restrains her large cat -- I don't know if the mesh is small enough for a cat of your size. Youmight want to look at it on their web page. MaryL (take out the litter to reply) Photos of Duffy and Holly (pictorial history of my blind cat Duffy's integration into our household): Duffy, Part I: The Introduction -- http://tinyurl.com/8y54 Duffy, Part II: Life at Home -- http://tinyurl.com/8y56 Two words... Scat Mat... Your cat/kitten isn't strong enough or big enough to jump on the counters and it's early enough in it's life that you can create an imprint of what is right and wrong. I have done this with my cats and dogs and, I have had great success! It's not cheap, but in the end, it's the best enforcer of boundaries while you are not around. I'll put the link below so if you are interested you can take a look at it. You can also find used Scat Mats on Ebay. http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV=G1 > I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep her ou > of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am afraid of > stepping on her. > I have tried just saying "NO", using a squirt gun and shaking a can with > coins,but nothing is working . Does anyone have any suggestions? > JH > Two words... Scat Mat... http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV =G1 Hey... dictatorial governments have used this kind of electro shock on people with varying degrees of success! -- ~~Philip "Never let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain" It uses a harmless electrical pulse which is similar to static electricity. There are three settings, and there isn't a fixed current when pressure is given to the mat. The only point that I am trying to make is, that if someone wanted to train a cat, with regard to where it is and is not allowed (i.e. counter top, chairs, couches.) then I would recommend the Scat mat. I haven't had any unsuccessful endeavors. I have established boundaries for the animals that I have had, and currently have without using traditional methods, (i.e. water bottles, loud noises, or booby traps.) > > Two words... Scat Mat... > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > "Never let school interfere > with your education - Mark Twain" "Harmless" is anything short of inducing a heart attack? Ok. Establishing boundaries is a joke with a cat. -- ~~Philip "Never let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain" >In news:Es0gb.57071$Of2.2337193@twister.tampabay.rr.com, >Isotope <Isotope19@hotmail.com> being of bellicose mind posted: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > Two words... Scat Mat... http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV > > =G1 > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > "Never let school interfere > > with your education - Mark Twain" Right... So I suppose that these mats are useless, and I love to administer "Shock Therapy" to cats. Just for the record, if you imprint an animal (especially a kitten) at an early age, you can set boundaries. Also, a current of 0.003 ampere causes heart problems and may be fatal for anything under 1.0 lbs, including a kitten. It's not the voltage; it's the ampere that causes problems and the Scat Mat doesn't even come close. If you truly understood the physics of how the Scat Mat works, you would agree with the behavior modification and boundary establishing with cats. IT CAN BE DONE... > "Harmless" is anything short of inducing a heart attack? Ok. > Establishing boundaries is a joke with a cat. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > > "Never let school interfere > > > with your education - Mark Twain" Are you another one of these people that I have to punctuate with smiley faces to save you from your seriousness? Let's try it again: "Harmless" is anything short of inducing a heart attack? Ok." What part of that passage led you to post the following drivel? Sheesh -- ~~Philip "Never let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain" >In news:9n3gb.7855$qw.870159@twister.tampabay.rr.com, >Isotope <Isotope19@hotmail.com> being of bellicose mind posted: [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > > > posted: > > > > > Two words... Scat Mat... http://futurepet.com/cgi-bin/fullpres.exe?PARTNUM=SKM411&DF=SKM341&OV > > > > =G1 > > > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > "Never let school interfere > > > > with your education - Mark Twain" > I have a beautiful 6 month old Munchkin kitten, but I can't keep her ou > of the kitchen. She really is a tiny little thing and I am afraid of > stepping on her. > I have tried just saying "NO", using a squirt gun and shaking a can with > coins,but nothing is working . Does anyone have any suggestions? > JH Could you put her in another room with the door closed while you are working in the kitchen, then let her out again as soon as it's "safe"? Kittens can get underfoot quickly, especially when your attention is directed toward carrying bowls and things. MaryL (take out the litter to reply) Isotope wrote >Just for the record, if you imprint an animal >(especially a kitten) at an early age, you can set boundaries. Also, a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >understood the physics of how the Scat Mat works, you would agree with the >behavior modification and boundary establishing with cats. IT CAN BE DONE... Face it Isotope , you don't need a pet, you need something to control. Why did you choose a cat??? Any one will tell you that you don't\can't control cats. They are essentially self centered creatures who condescend to share your abode . Cat lovers aren't into controlling their pets. That's why they choose cats and not dogs. So why did you choose a cat??? Maybe you like a challenge? and the electric shocks are your latest salvo in controlling your cat. What next?..Torture when it doesn't respond to the electric shocks. Sleep deprivation perhaps? Cats would hate that. Get rid of the cat and spend more time with your PC. You can set all the boundaries you want and it will never disobey you. Peace. Hey JACKASS, If the product were deemed cruel and inhumane, it wouldn't have received ASPCA approval. Next time do your homework and investigate the topic before you make your opinion public. If you need to be told that applying electric shocks to kittens is bad, you should not be allowed to keep animals. Would you use the same method on your children? We all know that children need boundaries and I'm sure if you apply the electric shocks at an early enough stage in their development you would have complete control of them. Of course the minor side effects, severe mental trauma, which will warp the emotional and psychological development of the recipients for the rest of their lives, can be ignored. No doubt the ASPCA will have tested for this. Sometimes you have to make decisions for yourself. Phillip, a.k.a. "Anchovy" There isn't an electric shock administered at anytime. It sends a STATIC SHOCK, similar to what you and I receive from clothes directly out of the drier. You are making a fruitless claim by mistaking the two types of shock. There is NOT a sufficient quantity of amps to do any harm or cause side effects, severe mental trauma, emotional and or psychological problems. It is not an electric chair, or a live wire with 1,800 volts. It is collection of electrons or charged atoms on the surface which, when touched sends a static shock. DO YOU RESEARCH! Until then, stay at your flat in Earls Court or Brighton and stop worrying about how I maintain my cats. Read about feline physiology, and then come back when you have a point to make. How can you compare a kitten to a human child? You do know the difference right? I'm flattered...well almost, that you run a check on my postings in other groups. Did you find my post that significant? I obviously hit a nerve. Applying electric shocks to kittens, static or otherwise is wrong. You are using PAIN to control the behavior of the kitten. PAIN is the operative word here. The electric shocks produced by your matt administers pain to the kitten. If not, why does the kitten eventually stay away from the matt. Because it fears the matt. It fears more PAIN. Using a device which administers PAIN as a method for controlling behavior is wrong and I think you know that so why do you try to defend the indefensible? I could have done a search on your postings but I couldn't be bothered. Peace. Phillip, Actually, I didn't have to run a search for you in any other groups. Your TCP/IP settings and how you read your news groups narrow down where you are. Back to the point, which is you objection? Is it your not understanding of how the mat works, or is because you are mistaken regarding what the mat does to the cat? You didn't hit a nerve, but your unawareness, and fruitless claims of severe mental trauma, emotional and or psychological problems are what are aggravating. Obviously, you and I see the situation differently. I have had animals (cats, dogs, cows, pigs.) all my life. I have tried many other approaches to modifying the habitual behavior of cats, and haven't had any greater success than I have with these mats. Things are different in the U.K. The mats, regardless of what you think WORK and are HARMLESS. If I thought that the mats were harming any of the animals, I wouldn't have purchased it and the ASPCA wouldn't have issued its seal of approval for training devices. In conclusion, I respectfully disagree with you opinion of the Scat Mat, and their operation. I'm sorry that you feel that I am not worthy of having pets, but I disagree with your position and your opinion. >From: "Iso" nospam@hotmail.com >The mats, regardless of what you think WORK and are HARMLESS. Just another opinion that Scat Mats are pretty useful tools. Rather than have my youngest cat continue to ruin my leather furniture, we have Scat Mats on the sofa and chair. When they are off, and we're sitting on that furniture, Skip is allowed on and in our laps, etc. When the mats are on, I can be happy with the fact that he's not urinating on the leather! The static charge isn't much at all - it's a deterrent, and a good one. Janet Boss Best Friends Dog Obedience "Nice Manners for the Family Pet" Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com Firstly lets cut the crap. We are both animal lovers (crap definition but it works). There's no trolling going on here. We just have different ideas of how the relationship between animal and human should be conducted. I believe animals are personalities, individuals and are worthy of the same respect you give a human friend. Just because I don't understand why an animal exhibits a certain form of behavior doesn't make it a less valid action. Maybe your way of relating to animals is more practical and in the current world we live in today, more relevant but its not for me. I live with 2 cats at the moment and I'm keen to know them as cats, not a version of cats that I have created. Sure, if they have a go at my speakers or crap on my bed they get grief and they know it. So if they do have a go at my speakers or crap on my bed I know they are communicating with me. They are saying feed me or pet me. Whatever, its communication and that's what I want from an animal. I see your love is ferrets. I've never had one. Google's great, isn't it? |
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