My first pet, an older Himalayan that I've now had over 5 years (since I
turned 50). Queen Anne has always suffered to some degree with choking and
coughing up hairballs - usually in two spots/events - one being the long
hairball itself (looking almost like it came out her other end) and the next
is mostly wet food. Sometimes they come out in reverse order.
I have tried Purina One Hairball and other formulaes. Money is not the
problem, I will do anything to help her. I brush her quite a bit but not
everyday. I used to put the anti-hairball fish flavored "vaseline" product
on her nose that she enjoyed licking off, but it didn't seem to help. I'm a
little tired of the weekly messes on the carpet but mostly I am concerned
for her health.
Does anyone know of what I'm doing wrong? Or should I consider that this is
a bad sign and expect her to die? She's about 10 years old I think. But
she's been doing it for years... I don't want to be a bad "mother". Help.
Rebecca in Atlanta
Brandy?Alexandre - 01 Oct 2003 06:15 GMT
Mortgage.Author <321start@bellsouth.net> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
> Does anyone know of what I'm doing wrong? Or should I consider
> that this is a bad sign and expect her to die? She's about 10
> years old I think. But she's been doing it for years... I don't
> want to be a bad "mother". Help.
>
> Rebecca in Atlanta
I don't think you're doing anything wrong. Kami was a two-week
hairball hacker of turd-sized variety. She wouldn't talk Petromalt or
any other remedy, and they didn't work anyway. Pounce came out with a
hairball "treat" and she gets 4 of them every Friday. Hairballs are
quite rare these days and thank god! You might like to try them. Kami
prefers the crunchy tuna flavor, but it comes in soft chicken as well.

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Karen M. - 01 Oct 2003 18:54 GMT
Brandy Alexandre wrote:
> Mortgage.Author <321start@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
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> quite rare these days and thank god! You might like to try them. Kami
> prefers the crunchy tuna flavor, but it comes in soft chicken as well.
My cat Audrey likes the chicken. BTW, thanks a lot for the "hairball
hacker of turd-sized variety" comment. I just spit coffee on my
monitor!! LOL!
Brandy?Alexandre - 02 Oct 2003 05:35 GMT
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> My cat Audrey likes the chicken. BTW, thanks a lot for the "hairball
> hacker of turd-sized variety" comment. I just spit coffee on my
> monitor!! LOL!
LOL! Well? If it weren't for the cream and taupe color, that's what
they would look like. :)

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kaeli - 01 Oct 2003 13:33 GMT
> My first pet, an older Himalayan that I've now had over 5 years (since I
> turned 50). Queen Anne has always suffered to some degree with choking and
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> I have tried Purina One Hairball and other formulaes.
Those work by bulking up the diet, so if the cat doesn't drink enough,
they don't do a lot of good. Also, a recent study suggested that because
of the extra bulk, some nutrients may be lost due to quick passage
through the intestines and the cat feeling full sooner.
Hairballs are caused, of course, by the injestion of hair from grooming.
So, the more loose hair, the more the cat will have hairballs.
Lubricants often help pass the hair through the "other end" but some
cats won't eat them.
For those cats your best bet is to minimize hair injestion. Brush LESS
often for long haired cats - once or twice a week at most. Brushing
loosens hair. Rub the cat with a damp cloth once or twice a day to
remove loose hair instead of brushing. Brush only to keep the coat from
matting. If she is really suffering from the problem, shaving the hair
down to an inch or so is an option (if she is not a show cat).
Also, there is a nutritional supplement for coat health. You may want to
try that in her food so she loses less hair.
You may also add a bit of oil to her water or wet food to help lubricate
her digestive tract. Don't do that too often (once a week is good) as it
can soften the stool and lead to anal gland problems.
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Steve Crane - 02 Oct 2003 02:20 GMT
> > My first pet, an older Himalayan that I've now had over 5 years (since I
> > turned 50). Queen Anne has always suffered to some degree with choking and
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> of the extra bulk, some nutrients may be lost due to quick passage
> through the intestines and the cat feeling full sooner.
I think perhaps you may confusing Purina's commercials on TV with a
"study". Purina opted to add soap to their hairball product as a
surfactant to break up the greasy hairball. Other manufacturers use
elevated levels of fiber and shape to accomplish the same thing. It is
hugely ironic that Purina makes a commercial about supposed nutrient
loss due to high fiber hairball foods and yet produces a number of
foods with vastly more fiber than any hairball food. One would have to
presume that the Purina products with such high levels of fiber are
"sweeping" nutrients at a even quicker pace.
In reality hairball products work almost as much because of the shape
of the kibble as they do the fiber content.
> Hairballs are caused, of course, by the injestion of hair from grooming.
> So, the more loose hair, the more the cat will have hairballs.
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kaeli - 02 Oct 2003 14:10 GMT
> I think perhaps you may confusing Purina's commercials on TV with a
> "study".
No, I read about the food, nutrition, and the way the body digests food.
Almost all "hairball formula" foods say the reason they work is extra
fibre. Everyone knows that when you eat more (non-soluble) fibre, you
eliminate more. Fact of life. This is because we can't fully digest
plant matter. This is equally true for people, dogs, and cats.
In order to eliminate properly with a high-fibre diet, you must drink
water. Fibre absorbs water. The stool would be too hard if there was not
enough water in the diet.
If you eliminate too quickly, your body can't digest everything you eat.
This is equally true for dogs, cats, and people. The true measure of a
cat food is its digestibility. If the cat doesn't fully digest
everything, it would need to eat more to get all the nutrients it needs.
There are many sources for all this information. I have quoted a few
below. A Google search will bring up many more.
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http://www.cah.com/library/felconstip.html
Medical management for cats with chronic constipation typically has both
a dietary and medical component. The dietary component usually involves
putting the cat on a higher fiber diet. Fiber absorbs water thereby
creating looser, bulkier stools. That shortens the transit time in the
gastrointestinal tract and keeps things moving. While you want to
increase the amount of fiber in your cat?s diet, you don?t want to
overdo it.
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From http://www.catclinic.co.uk/catnews/sept2000.htm
The Hill's Pet Nutrition company have recently Introduced a new
"Hairball Control" dry diet to the UK. The food is claimed to reduce the
formation of hairballs in cats safely and naturally. The product
contains high levels of vegetable fibre that help to sweep the hair
through the cat's digestive tract.
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http://65.18.207.6/purinaproplanextracarehairballmanagementcatfood.html
Pro Plan Extra Care Hairball Management Adult Food is recommended by
veterianarians. Helps to provide the correct nutritional formula that
adult cat requires. It provides the fiber needed to control the
formation of hairballs in your cat's digestive tract.
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http://www.thecatsite.com/care/hairballs.html
Cats with chronic hairball problems may need a change in diet. A high-
fiber diet can help to increase bowel movements, thus preventing
hairball blockages.
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http://dels.nas.edu/banr/cd_cat_faq.html#q2
Q: How much fiber is good for my cat?
A: Fiber in the diet is probably good for overall gastrointestinal
health and may help overweight cats trim down. Dietary fiber is thought
to help maintain proper weight by diluting the caloric density of the
food, and through physical effects and hormonal interactions. For
reasons not yet understood, dietary fiber also seems to help in the
management of mild hyperglycemia, a relatively common problem in older
cats.
On the other hand, too much fiber in the diet can decrease the
digestibility of other important nutrients. Also, certain features of
the cat's intestinal tract, including a relatively small colon and non-
functional cecum, suggest that cats may not be able to utilize dietary
fibers as well as other animals.
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Rene - 01 Oct 2003 17:03 GMT
> My first pet, an older Himalayan that I've now had over 5 years (since I
> turned 50). Queen Anne has always suffered to some degree with choking and
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>
> Rebecca in Atlanta
Hello! I don't think your kitty will die. She's a long-haired breed
that has a lot of hair. Even with my short-haired boys, they still
hack and get hairballs every now and then.
Make sure you brush her regularly, even every day for a while, to keep
the hair under control. I have good luck with the hairball petromalt
products. Read the tube to give her the proper amount.
Just curious, but have you ever called your vet to ask him/her about
this? Maybe they have an idea too.
Rene
rrb_091903 - 03 Oct 2003 07:08 GMT
> My first pet, an older Himalayan that I've now had over 5 years (since I
> turned 50). Queen Anne has always suffered to some degree with choking and
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>
> Rebecca in Atlanta
My male long-haired cat used to barf up hairballs at least twice a
month. I started him on Nutro Max Cat Hairball control food, and he
hasn't done a hairball in over four months. I only brush him once a
week, so the primary cause is the food I think. I would give it a try,
use the hairball treats, and use the hairball goop as needed. I would
also brush her once a day. Feeding her a food to help maintain coat
health can help as well.
Anchovy - 23 Oct 2003 02:56 GMT
Hi,
I'm no expert but I've had cats for years so I can tell you of my
experience.
I've always thought hairballs were a totally natural thing for a cat.
I don't think you can stop the cat cleaning itself which is the only
way to stop the hairballs. You are left with 2 alternatives. 1: Shave
the cat ( Cruel and pointless) or 2: brush its coat on a daily basis
making sure to remove all the loose fur. You could also make sure the
cat has access to grass. They eat it and it makes the throwing up
easier for the cat.
As for the throwing up in the same place. I had that problem. That was
solved by allowing the cat access to the garden at night. I use to
keep the cat flap locked at night to stop wandering males spraying in
the house. The piles of hairball ceased, well in the house anyway. I
think cats are very private creatures and prefer to do certain things
alone especially crapping and throwing up so if they can do it the
garden, they will.
The hairballs you described sound just like the many I've seen so the
cat isn't ill or going to die. 10 can be young for a cat, some live
to be 20 but the average age is about 14
As I said, I'm no expert but I hope I've been some help