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is Zodiac safe to use for fleas

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Lauralai - 02 Oct 2003 00:11 GMT
hi
yesterday i posted about about my cat's having fleas the people who replyed
said not to use OTC things.  well i would NEVER use any hartz product for
fleas but i was wondering if Zodiac is safe to use for fleas.  I went to the
website and it says that it's active ingrdient is methoprene while program
tablets and program injection's main ingredient is Lufenuron,  i have never
heard any bad things happening with zodiac and since my flea infestation is
just starting out and is not that bad i was wondering if it would work.  i
bought the shampoo today since petsmart didnt have any of the zodiac spot on
in, they should get it thrsday though and i haven't used the shampoo yet
because i may get the spot on zodiac if it works fairly well and has no
cases of harming animals.  if not i may have to take the vet in to the vet
but i would rather have that as a last resort, i've only found 3-4 fleas so
far on only 2 of my cats.  also if the zodiac is safe i will buy it for 2 of
my older cats who are over a year and wait 2 weeks for the kittens to get
the stuff from the vet since one is a pure bred hym and he's already
allergic to plastic so i wouldn't want to risk him being allergic to the
zodiac spot on stuff or shampoo.

the link that compares the products is here
http://www.zodiacpet.com/productinformation.htm
thanks again
Cheryl - 02 Oct 2003 01:35 GMT
> hi

Hi Lauralai. :)

i bought the shampoo today since petsmart didnt have any of
> the zodiac spot on in, they should get it thrsday though and i
> haven't used the shampoo yet because i may get the spot on zodiac
> if it works fairly well and has no cases of harming animals.  if
> not i may have to take the vet in to the vet but i would rather
> have that as a last resort

I don't know the answer to your question and hope someone else does
but it made me think about something.  I wonder why Bayer can't market
Advantage in single tubes (especially the large dog size which you can
measure out and treat multiple cats) for those who can't afford 6
months worth at a time?  They'd probably make a killing and save a lot
of animals from the horrors of Hartz which is cheaper, of course.  I
think some of the successful flea-treatment companies should think
about *everyone* they are selling to.  People who love their pets but
may not have the money for so much treatment all at once.  People like
Lauralai trying to be the best cat mommy without having to involve her
own parents.  Elderly people on a strict monthly budget.  Things like
fleas can come on suddenly even if you've never had a flea problem and
you may not have budgeted for it.

Just a thought....
-L. - 02 Oct 2003 06:40 GMT
> > hi
>
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> measure out and treat multiple cats) for those who can't afford 6
> months worth at a time?  

Some vets sell them this way.  We did because we often used a single
tube during grooming.

-L.
PawsForThought - 02 Oct 2003 03:27 GMT
>From: "Lauralai" lauralai@mountaincable.net

>  well i would NEVER use any hartz product for
>fleas but i was wondering if Zodiac is safe to use for fleas.  I went to the
>website and it says that it's active ingrdient is methoprene

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Phil P. - 02 Oct 2003 04:31 GMT
i was wondering if Zodiac is safe to use for fleas.  I went to the
> website and it says that it's active ingrdient is methoprene

Zodiac also contains permethrin which can cause seizures in cats. I know of
several cats that needed to be treated with phenobarbital and/or valium to
control seizures, and in some cats, dexamethasone to control severe seizures
after being treated Zodiac.   Permethrin also causes drooling, vomiting and
muscle tremors in cats.

You may want to rethink using Zodiac products on cats.

Phil.
Laura - 02 Oct 2003 04:47 GMT
ok guess i won't use the spot on stuff, is the shampoo ok though?  if not
what shampoo can i use?

> i was wondering if Zodiac is safe to use for fleas.  I went to the
> > website and it says that it's active ingrdient is methoprene
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>
> Phil.
Phil P. - 02 Oct 2003 04:59 GMT
> ok guess i won't use the spot on stuff, is the shampoo ok though?

I was referring to the shampoo

if not
> what shampoo can i use?

I don't recommend *any* over the counter flea product.  For the safest and
most effective flea products, speak to your vet.

Good luck.

Phil..

> > i was wondering if Zodiac is safe to use for fleas.  I went to the
> > > website and it says that it's active ingrdient is methoprene
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> >
> > Phil.

I don't think
Laura - 02 Oct 2003 06:18 GMT
ok, thanks, i thought you were referring to the spot on stuff.
i might try phoning around tomorrow after school to see if there are any
vets that don't cost as much or who would give out the flea control but i
don't think that they will, odds are i'm going to have to bring them to the
vet next thursday since they have no appointments open tomorrow and that's
when my vet has vacination days

> > ok guess i won't use the spot on stuff, is the shampoo ok though?
>
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>
> I don't think
MaryL - 02 Oct 2003 12:21 GMT
> ok, thanks, i thought you were referring to the spot on stuff.
> i might try phoning around tomorrow after school to see if there are any
> vets that don't cost as much or who would give out the flea control but i
> don't think that they will, odds are i'm going to have to bring them to the
> vet next thursday since they have no appointments open tomorrow and that's
> when my vet has vacination days

Laura,

Some vets will sell Advantage or Frontline without seeing the cats because
they are so routinely used for fleas.  Be sure to tell them the age of your
kittens.

MaryL
(take out the litter to reply)
-L. - 03 Oct 2003 07:53 GMT
> > ok, thanks, i thought you were referring to the spot on stuff.
> > i might try phoning around tomorrow after school to see if there are any
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> they are so routinely used for fleas.  Be sure to tell them the age of your
> kittens.

FWIW, we have used Advantage on kittens as young as four days old.
Use just a drop.  If the kittens are older, you can use more, but you
need to be careful.  This is an off-label use, and is not currently
recommended by the makers of Advantage.  But, it works, and IME, is
safe.

-L.
-L. - 02 Oct 2003 06:42 GMT
> hi
> yesterday i posted about about my cat's having fleas the people who replyed
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> heard any bad things happening with zodiac and since my flea infestation is
> just starting out and is not that bad i was wondering if it would work

I wouldn't use the product on my cats.  Frontline, Advantage and
Revolution are the only products I feel are safe enough to use on my
animals....and I worked for chemical companies for over 15 years - on
natural insecticides, among other things. ;)

-L.
-L. - 02 Oct 2003 06:43 GMT
> hi
> yesterday i posted about about my cat's having fleas the people who replyed
> said not to use OTC things

here's a good review of products currently on the market:

http://www.vspn.org/Library/misc/VSPN_M01289.htm

-L.
(Hoping the link still works - it's from my archives...)
 
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