lets see if I can cover everything, yes we love Moe & Rudy
I called the SPCA and they recommended Feliway because at night they
get very wild & destructive....Rick couldn't find Moe and he was in the
cupboard with the glasses, many glasses broke luckliy no hurt Moe or
Rick

I have catnip, made a box thingie they climb in and out of,  2
straching posts one super tall, the other just a bit shorter but has
cubby holes in it, use the feathers on a string, catnip toys, balls,
mice (not real ones) : )  toy mouse the squeaks, and a panic
mouse....they bite through anything that's on a string

Rick is at home more, he's mostlty housebound due to cancer, they will
sit on his lap but only very briefly...I can pick them up for a quick
cuddle and make sure I do that everyday several times

I put Moe in the bdrm to try to get Rudy to play since Moe takes over
on the toys and everything else, and he's the smaller of the two!

I grew up w dogs and still do love them but as an adult my ex got me
into cats and I've had several since, though never have I had 2 at the
same time

SPCA says they will take them back and we could get others, both of us
would hate to do that we love our babies

I have gotten a spray thats safe for animals but just reples (sp) them,
they're tearinng posters off the walls, try to tear the rubber bathtub
mat,.I do put it up at night... try to tear up books...even get on top
of fridge to knock down ceral box and tear open the box, they tore down
the curtians last night

everynight I place pie tins, pot lids, cookie sheets and cover all the
kitcken counters and the stove

Q....my friend has a very large dog carrier, I know w/dogs they often
use them as a comfort thing....I would never be mean to an animal
...but would that maybe clam them down?

Right now we confine one of the cats to the spare bdrm at night, w/food
and toys and kitty litter....is that mean?   maybe just put both of
them in there? and "baby proof it"

just heard a bang Moe was up on the counter, I have to make sure every
space is covered....Moe found a gap....heard of using fly paper but
that seems rather cruel

you all are so nice, thoughtful and helpful .... I can't thank you
enough for your responses

Lynn

PS, I even leave the radio on at night and have several night lights on
and keep window spaces open for them