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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / September 2005Cheryl Sellner and Lyn Glover, Usenet Stalkers
These psychos must be stopped! So you're afraid they're going to give you a cyber beating or shoot you with a cyber bullet? You must have one very big ego. > Path: newssvr17.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm02.news.prodigy.com!newsdst01.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!news.glorb.com!news.wiretrip.org!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news > From: George Orwell <nobody mixmaster.it> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > These psychos must be stopped! On Sat 03 Sep 2005 06:25:49p, George Orwell wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:2ee1dff8fa54eccb0730b05343baada8 @mixmaster.it): > These psychos must be stopped! *sigh* Mary, or Nancy or Marilyn or Drew or SaSha or whatever you're calling yourself these days - you are the stalker. You might change your name and use a new sock every day, but I have more important things to do than concern myself with you and what you do online. The last 2 years or so has proven that ignorning you doesn't work, not posting only makes you obsess about me more, and I'm not playing your games any more. If you continue to stalk me, I'll be getting in touch with NC LEA. This is your only warning. If this isn't you, but one of your online "friends", they aren't doing you any favors by trolling me in this or any other group I read. You have discredited yourself by using the many socks over the last month that you've used, and any poster attacking me or anyone else you don't like is either you, or we just think it is. Doesn't matter, same difference. You may be starting over now with a new identity and new identity for your cats Cheeky and Buddha, but you're still the nasty troll that you've been in your entire Usenet history. Only warning.  SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > On Sat 03 Sep 2005 06:25:49p, George Orwell wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:2ee1dff8fa54eccb0730b05343baada8 [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > you're still the nasty troll that you've been in your entire Usenet > history. Only warning. lol Now this would be hilarious, since we know exactly who and where you are, and you STARTED this nonsense. Since you have not been able to get your mind around it, let me state it outright for you: there are large parts of the Karma Post that are not true. By reposting it, you and your good buddy Lyn, (who has mastered remailers, bless her little skanky heart) are defaming someone you may or may not know, and opening yourselves up to a world of trouble. This is an effort you are on record as beginning, condoning, and perpetuating--all in an effort to stop someone from posting in a free and unmoderated forum. Mary's posting habits before or after coming to this group are beside the point. No see if you can crank your little dim bulb up far enough to understand that it is you and the others who began this smear campaign who are in the wrong. If you want to take it real life, I promise you that you, not Mary, will be the one the authorities are interested in. For one thing, your father worked for the State Department for over 40 years and you frequented alt.hackers. malicious and white supremacy groups for years. That sounds a lot more interesting than Mary pissing off a bunch of rose people--which is all she really did. Now do you get it? Think. Your glass house is more fragile than anyone's--AND you cast the first stone. On Sun 04 Sep 2005 05:21:29p, Cheryl wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:aHlwYXRpYQ==.cf1a6d3ca5be02ec131c3b851491546a@1125868889.null user.com): > Think. Your glass house is more fragile than anyone's--AND you > cast the first stone. That's it. Consider yourself done with me, and on to the law. Again you have lied about me. Do it all you want from now on because it's out of my hands. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > On Sun 04 Sep 2005 05:21:29p, Cheryl wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > That's it. Consider yourself done with me, and on to the law. Excellent. I have thought that you and your ilk should be brought to justice, but I would have felt silly initiating it. I can always count on you to take things to an even lower level. >Again > you have lied about me. Au contraire, "Jagged Little Heart." This information is taken from the public record--and YOU posted it. It is in your posting history. You deny you posted regularly to the group al.hackers.malicious? If you deny that your father worked for the State Department for 40 years, that just makes a liar of you, because you posted it. Who was I to know you were lying? >Do it all you want from now on because it's > out of my hands. It has been out of your hands from the minute you made the "Karma" post, Cheryl. You will now learn the hard way that you cannot launch a smear campaign using untrue and defamatory information without paying the consequences. There are indeed legal channels for teaching you that. Happily, it is not and has never been against the law to take someone's words--in this case, yours--and throw them back in their faces. Bring it on, Drama Queen. And while you are at it, ponder this: If you can dish it out but you can't take it, you really should hand in your spoon. >>Again >> you have lied about me. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > history. You deny you posted regularly to the group > al.hackers.malicious? I never denied I did. In fact, I said that I did, but I DO deny posting to any racist groups and what you found in your dig was a cross-posted mockery to a racist. I bet you didn't find any more, did you. My posting in AHM was never trolling. Your history shows years and years of trolling and harassment and bullying. If you deny that your father worked for > the State Department for 40 years, that just makes a liar of > you, because you posted it. Who was I to know you were lying? You are lying because he didn't work for the State Dept and I'd never said that he did. Bring it on. PPOSTFU. >>Do it all you want from now on because it's >> out of my hands. >> > It has been out of your hands from the minute you made the > "Karma" post, Cheryl. PPOSTFU. More baiting. > You will now learn the hard way that you cannot launch a smear > campaign using untrue and defamatory information without paying [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > someone's words--in this case, yours--and throw them back in > their faces. But taking the written word and twisting it the way you do, and constant harassment and bullying happily IS. Look at your NC laws Nancy. They're there for a reason. You're history proves what a stalker you are. Mine does not. My behavior is self-defense and I wish I didn't feel like I had to, but after years of your abuse, I do. I'm done with it. > Bring it on, Drama Queen. > > And while you are at it, ponder this: > > If you can dish it out but you can't take it, you really should > hand in your spoon. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > > On Sun 04 Sep 2005 05:21:29p, Cheryl wrote in > > rec.pets.cats.health+behav [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Again > > you have lied about me. > Au contraire, "Jagged Little Heart." This information is taken from the > public record--and YOU posted it. It is in your posting history. You > deny you posted regularly to the group al.hackers.malicious? If you deny > that your father worked for the State Department for 40 years, that just > makes a liar of you, because you posted it. Who was I to know you were > lying? It was the Department of Defense, not the State Department. lol That should be even more interesting to law enforcement should you take this real life. The Google link: http://tinyurl.com/a4aao and the post itself: Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk! 130.133.1.3!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!66-44-12-23.s531.apx2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.COM!not-for-mail From: "JaggedLittleHeart" <gardenerNOS...@qsmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.hackers.malicious Subject: Re: where'd it go? Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:11:19 -0400 Lines: 42 Message-ID: <9qo95h$oaknc$1@ID-94914.news.dfncis.de> References: <9qo508$otsl6$1@ID-94914.news.dfncis.de> <im7vstsm299u9lo51h14ei6pm78e50er4q@4ax.com> <9qo7j6$pjsro$1@ID-94914.news.dfncis.de> <2b9vstgvjugopgnc0jfkf5a51vhsbdirfq@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66-44-12-23.s531.apx2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com (66.44.12.23) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1003464690 25514732 66.44.12.23 (16 [94914]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 > On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:44:29 -0400, "JaggedLittleHeart" > <gardenerNOS...@qsmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > >If finally loaded.. I reported that device guy. It took ages to go through > >all the pages. If he has nothing to hide, it is up to him to prove. I did my > >duty. It was too fishy.. market internationally a spy program. Give me a > >fuckin break. I don't even care how this makes me look here, no one should > >post a thread like that. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > faux anthrax cases (and the extra gas in their cars, higher electric > consumption in their offices, yada...yada). Feh. I doubt anyone can predict how much the terrorists attacks here (RIP innocents) will cost us since this has not happened to us like this. But my father was with the DOD for 42 years and recently retired and he is convinced peace costs us all (monetarily), that war *spit again - geeze, second time tonight* helps the economy. I don't know how, and this is another fact that cuts in on my sleep. I suppose it creates more jobs that create more spending that creates more commerce... *sigh* Archiving more harassment under my own name. On Sun 04 Sep 2005 06:02:56p, Cheryl wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:aHlwYXRpYQ==.331ec3cb1384206604a5ea0393aa9d2a@1125871376.null user.com): > From: "Cheryl" <jlh.shallow@snotmail.com> > Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] > that cuts in on my sleep. I suppose it creates more jobs that > create more spending that creates more commerce... *sigh* SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > Archiving more harassment under my own name. Oh man, somebody is in deep trouble! Cheryl owns the RIGHTS to the name Cheryl! Thousands of netizens may be affected! This is frightening! > On Sun 04 Sep 2005 06:02:56p, Cheryl wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] > > that cuts in on my sleep. I suppose it creates more jobs that > > create more spending that creates more commerce... *sigh* > Archiving more harassment under my own name. <snipped> Cheryl, This is not a threat because I could care less about you, but aren't you concerned that your workplace will become aware of your accessing Usenet sites on their time, wasn't there a mandate forbidding this sometime last year. All that will come forward in any investigation. >> Archiving more harassment under my own name. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > mandate forbidding this sometime last year. All that will come > forward in any investigation. Trish, so far this has nothing to do with you. I don't post from work, so this means nothing. If you care to involve yourself in the ugly history of someone you only just met online in the last several months, keep it up. As I say, this has nothing to do with you. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > >> Archiving more harassment under my own name. > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > several months, keep it up. As I say, this has nothing to do with > you. So now you're reduced to threatening Trish, eh? Well, you know as well as she knows that you did indeed post from work and that you were warned to stop, Cheryl. This is why we rarely now see you post during the day. But you did post during the day. For a long time. As for ugly posting histories, does it get much uglier than alt.flame.nigger and alt.hackers.malicious? I don't think so and I don't think Daddy will think so either. Or Daddy's colleagues and other persons of interest. You had better build a pretty good case against a woman who simply pissed you off in a cat group. You are documented as sending the first harassing post, after all. Which just happens to be full of false and defamatory information. Usenetserver.com? You should have known better than that. Let's definitely get the authorities involved. I think that's a wonderful idea. > So now you're reduced to threatening Trish, eh? Mary/Marilyn/Nancy/Drew/SaSha/Celeste/Shiva, I didn't threaten Trish. Well, you know > as well as she knows that you did indeed post from work and that > you were warned to stop, Cheryl. I was? Why wasn't I informed of this? I don't post from work out of common sense. And because I'm too damn busy to barly take a glance at Usenet. Some lunch breaks let me take a peak, but other than that, no. This is why we rarely now > see you post during the day. But you did post during the day. > For a long time. No, I sure never did. Prove it, Nancy, er Mary, er, Drew, er, Marilyn, er Celeste, er, Shiva, er, et al. > As for ugly posting histories, does it get much uglier than > alt.flame.nigger and alt.hackers.malicious? I don't think so > and I don't think Daddy will think so either. Or Daddy's > colleagues and other persons of interest. Debunked. As a matter of fact, my dad would laugh at you if he even read any of this. In fact, I think I'm going to tell him so he can save me the trouble of figuring out the best way to have you investigated. > You had better build a pretty good case against a woman > who simply pissed you off in a cat group. Pissed me off? Oh Nancy, it goes way beyond pissing me off. You've libeled me. You lie left and right. You make up stories. For 2 or 3 years now. You are documented > as sending the first harassing post, after all. Which just > happens to be full of false and defamatory information. > Usenetserver.com? You should have known better than that. You still haven't proven your claims. > Let's definitely get the authorities involved. I think that's a > wonderful idea. It is coming. Stay tuned. Or move. That might help. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > > So now you're reduced to threatening Trish, eh? > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > It is coming. Stay tuned. Or move. That might help. Now that is funny. This is going to be good. > > So now you're reduced to threatening Trish, eh? > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > save me the trouble of figuring out the best way to have you > investigated. Daddy might be too busy explaining what his little girl was doing hanging at alt.hackers.malicious. But we shall see. :) > Daddy might be too busy explaining what his little girl was doing > hanging at alt.hackers.malicious. Since you only saw AHM from a troll's perspective, you wouldn't understand that regulars actually tried to learn security. Many regs are admins and network gurus that specialize in Windows servers. Windows servers are easy to maintain, but hard to secure. Many times there were war games. "Come hack my Windoze server that I just set up. It has only the latest patches on it, no OS tweaking yet. Help me figure out what I need to tweak". Of course Usenet to you is just to see who you can help to kill themselves. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > > Daddy might be too busy explaining what his little girl was doing > > hanging at alt.hackers.malicious. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > figure out what I need to tweak". Of course Usenet to you is just to > see who you can help to kill themselves. Now, you see, there you go again. Libel. And you committed it first by reposting the Karma post. But I do love this affirmation. You are not a very bright "girl," Cheryl. Not bright enough to find out if the sh.t you spread is true before you begin to gleefully spread it. At least half the posts attributed to Mary in the Karma post were never made by her and this indeed can be proved. You can beat your head against the wall as much as you want--you f.cked up. You crossed the line into criminal behavior. Now let's see our tax dollars at work. :) >> > Daddy might be too busy explaining what his little girl was >> > doing hanging at alt.hackers.malicious. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > first by reposting the Karma post. But I do love this > affirmation. You keep writing that but fail to prove your allegations. I challenge you. Prove it. > You are not a very bright "girl," Cheryl. Not bright enough to > find out if the sh.t you spread is true before you begin to > gleefully spread it. At least half the posts attributed to Mary > in the Karma post were never made by her and this indeed can be > proved. I really don't give a sh.t. > You can beat your head against the wall as much as you want--you > f.cked up. You crossed the line into criminal behavior. > > Now let's see our tax dollars at work. :) We sure will. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields On Sun 04 Sep 2005 10:04:12p, Cheryl wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:Xns96C7E086C8E57shads@ 130.133.1.4): >> Now, you see, there you go again. Libel. And you committed it >> first by reposting the Karma post. But I do love this >> affirmation. Ok, you just proved that I didn't fully read your comment. Reposting the Karma post is not libel. It was reposting something written that was found about your trolling history that was written by you, proven to be written by you. Sue me, I misread it. > You keep writing that but fail to prove your allegations. I > challenge you. Prove it. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > > Now, you see, there you go again. Libel. And you committed it > > first by reposting the Karma post. But I do love this > > affirmation. > > > You keep writing that but fail to prove your allegations. I > challenge you. Prove it. Um. Genius? It's right there in the archives. Are you on drugs, too? > > You are not a very bright "girl," Cheryl. Not bright enough to > > find out if the sh.t you spread is true before you begin to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > I really don't give a sh.t. When you start talking libel, you should indeed give a sh.t. Because just last week you reposted what is an untrue exercise in defamation. In your own name, with your own IP hanging out. That is already in process, so you had better take the offense, though it is a bit late now. > > You can beat your head against the wall as much as you want--you > > f.cked up. You crossed the line into criminal behavior. > > > > Now let's see our tax dollars at work. :) > > > We sure will. Poor spanky. Foiled again. You began the Googlefest, and now that you are ending up on the ugly end of it, you are making an even bigger fool of yourself by screaming about illegality where there is none, except your initial harassing posts. You need to learn that you may not censor anyone in a free and unmoderated public forum by engaging in defamatory smear campaigns. That is indeed harassment. And that in indeed something that you initiated. I am more than happy to help you learn this, Cheryl. Through legal channels, of course. Meanwhile, if I might make a suggestion: find a new hobby. You suck at intimidation. :) >> > Now, you see, there you go again. Libel. And you committed it >> > first by reposting the Karma post. But I do love this [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > Meanwhile, if I might make a suggestion: find a new > hobby. You suck at intimidation. :) Yeah, I corrected that. Are you going to post proof that I posted from work now? SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > >> > Now, you see, there you go again. Libel. And you committed it > >> > first by reposting the Karma post. But I do love this [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > Yeah, I corrected that. Are you going to post proof that I posted > from work now? Cheryl, if you're going to post things about Nancy in the roses group, have the balls to use your own name. And don't deny it... there's a nice little trail of breadcrumbs behind that remailer >Cheryl, if you're going to post things about Nancy in the roses group, >have the balls to use your own name. And don't deny it... there's a >nice little trail of breadcrumbs behind that remailer This witch is 100% committed to causing problems, along with her good friend Lyn. Charlie >I'm not playing your games any more. If you continue to stalk me, >I'll be getting in touch with NC LEA. Bah. I tried for weeks to ignore your taunts and innuendo, and you would have none of it. If you hound some LEA into taking an interest in this group, they will see that you are a quarrelsome fool. Charlie
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