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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / September 2005New Orleans, cat not allowed in shelter for homeless
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-katrina29aug29,0,384327.sto ry?coll=la-home-nation Second image in the Photo Gallery, the text reads: "Joseph Barnes, who is homeless, stands in the nearly deserted French Quarter with his cat Patches. Barnes said he was not allowed to enter the Superdome shelter with his cat, because pets were not permitted in the shelter. He said he was unsure where he would spend the night." I can only hope the photographer was able and willing to arrange something for them. Joske > http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-katrina29aug29,0,384327.sto ry?coll=la-home-nation > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Joske More non-new for news' sake. We are blowing the arms and legs off of little Iraqis and this is all the LA Times can come up with. -L. (shaking head) In news:1125306409.363465.5880@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com idontmind@gmail.com http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-katrina29aug29,0,384327.sto ry?coll=la-home-nation >> Second image in the Photo Gallery, the text reads: >> "Joseph Barnes, who is homeless, stands in the nearly deserted >> French Quarter with his cat Patches. Barnes said he was not >> allowed to enter the Superdome shelter with his cat, because >> pets were not permitted in the shelter. He said he was unsure >> where he would spend the night." >> I can only hope the photographer was able and willing to arrange >> something for them. > More non-new for news' sake. We are blowing the arms and legs > off of little Iraqis and this is all the LA Times can come up with. > -L. > (shaking head) Sure. It's only a cat, and just a message about a cat posted in a cat group. What was I thinking of... ...not of a vitriolic personality like yours, that's for sure. Joske The news showed the smart people evacuating the day before holding their dogs and I assume their cats were in travel bags. Those are my kind of people. -- Barb Of course I don't look busy, I did it right the first time. > The news showed the smart people evacuating the day before holding their > dogs and I assume their cats were in travel bags. Those are my kind of > people. What about all the people that own pets that could *not* evacuate for whatever reason (too poor to own a car, too infirm, etc.)? They might be smart too, but circumstances might make it impossible for a person (whether they own pets or not) to evacuate. brian  SignatureIf you want to reply to this message by mail, you will have to change the reply address to beuchaw@beuchaw.net >> The news showed the smart people evacuating the day before >> holding their dogs and I assume their cats were in travel bags. >> Those are my kind of people. > What about all the people that own pets that could *not* evacuate > for whatever reason (too poor to own a car, too infirm, etc.)? > They might be smart too, but circumstances might make it > impossible for a person (whether they own pets or not) to > evacuate. Indeed. The photo I posted the link to (it's gone now) was of a homeless person holding his cat Patches on a leash. He had no means of leaving town and didn't want to abandon his cat. He wasn't allowed into a shelter because of the cat. He was standing there with his cat all alone in an deserted street. Today we saw images of a father and his children missing their wife/mum - she had fallen off the roof they were sitting on when it split in two. I suppose dad will be blamed too for not providing a better income so that they could have evacuated by car, expensive airplane tickets, or whatever. But somehow I am not surprised at the lack of compassion in this group. The huge fight over Conan has shown it to be a group with a large amount of insecure unhappy egos afraid to lose one flake off their skin - of course being confronted with someone even less fortunate than themselves would give cause to razorsharp judgment. Joske > > The news showed the smart people evacuating the day before holding their > > dogs and I assume their cats were in travel bags. Those are my kind of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > smart too, but circumstances might make it impossible for a person > (whether they own pets or not) to evacuate. Most of the people at the Superdome were in that category -- elderly, poor, kids, etc. SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.diaryland.com/ >> > The news showed the smart people evacuating the day before holding >> > their [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Most of the people at the Superdome were in that category -- elderly, > poor, kids, etc. Yes, this is a tragedy of immense proportions. Many of the people who did not leave literally *could not* because they had no means of transportation. Once again, many of the poor were hit the hardest. I donated through the American Red Cross Relief Fund, but no amount of donations will be able to recover what has been lost (in both lives -- 2-legged, 4-legged, and others -- and property). MaryL > I donated through the > American Red Cross Relief Fund, but no amount of donations will be able to > recover what has been lost (in both lives -- 2-legged, 4-legged, and > others -- and property). The worst is yet to come. Many alive now will die as they wait for help due to the wipeout of the infrastructure that rescue groups need as a base of operations. (Places to sleep, safe water, clear roads.) More will die of disease. Some will kill themselves as they watch their dead loved ones rot and realize what they themselves are in for over the next few months. This is not the usual hurricane situation. This is not like anything we have ever seen before. Hospitals in N. O. are full of patients who have been lying in their own filth for days, and health workers are risking their own health due to no running water, no clean linens, no food, and what it means to care for the very ill with no chance of sanitary conditions. Worst of all is the fact that most suffering are very poor and not white. They are rightfully distrustful from experiencing a lifetime of brutal racism. I guess we will see what happens. >> I donated through the >> American Red Cross Relief Fund, but no amount of donations will be able [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > of brutal racism. I guess we will see > what happens. It is a dreadful situation, as you have so graphically and poignantly illustrated. It is a tragedy that is beyond words and, really, beyond comprehension. I truly cannot imagine the agony that those people must be feeling and the pain they must endure. It is such a helpless feeling. MaryL > It is a dreadful situation, as you have so graphically and poignantly > illustrated. It is a tragedy that is beyond words and, really, beyond > comprehension. I truly cannot imagine the agony that those people must be > feeling and the pain they must endure. It is such a helpless feeling. It is. I have been in tears on and off all day, and while not usually one to watch the endless CNN accounts of every natural disaster, I did watch the news accounts from dinner time (the few bites I managed stuck in my throat and congealed) until about 10. It is a level of misery we have rarely if ever seen. Everybody deals with it in their own way, I am sending money and praying. Think about the little babies and the pregnant women and the old people. My God. > It is. I have been in tears on and off all day Oh really? You have a heart? I think that's news to anyone here. >, and while not usually one > to watch the endless CNN accounts of every natural disaster, I did > watch the news accounts from dinner time (the few bites I managed > stuck in my throat and congealed) until about 10. It is a level of misery > we have rarely if ever seen. Everybody deals with it in their own way, I am > sending money and praying. Oh, so the c.nt Extrordinaire has religion, eh? Talk about hypocrite. You better pray to your God. You're gonna need him. >Think about the little babies Yeah, think about the little babies. Especially the one who's name you drag through the mud for your own kicks. Talk about hypocrite, indeed! >and the pregnant > women and the old people. My God. My God is right. -L. > Oh, so the c.nt Extrordinaire has religion, eh? Talk about hypocrite. > You better pray to your God. You're gonna need him. Now this sounds like a threat to me, Lynette. Watching you melt down is so entertaining. :) > What about all the people that own pets that could *not* evacuate for > whatever reason (too poor to own a car, too infirm, etc.)? People who cannot care for their animals properly should not have them. Caring for your animals properly includes being able to transport them wherever they need to go. Of course many people in these circumstances *do* have pets, and unfortunately it is the pets who pay the price. > They might be > smart too, but circumstances might make it impossible for a person > (whether they own pets or not) to evacuate. I feel sorry for the poor people who didn't have transportaion and/or no means to get away. Those are the people who deserve sympathy, primarily because they are victims of poverty and that is ultimately what killed them. BTW, http://www.petswelcome.com lists pet-friendly hotel chains, for anyone who might need this info, in the US. Everyone should have an evacuation plan in case of natural disaster, war, fire, etc. -L. Very poor people do take bus rides. I do sympathize with the homeless person and his cat. Some of the people in the big superdome were elderly, some were disabled. Ten thousand people were not without cars. Some who were interviewed just admitted outright that they waited too long and then the road out was gridlocked. Some big hotshot, I don't know if it was the governor of Mississippi, stated the day before, "I don't believe in nighttime evacuations." -- Barb Of course I don't look busy, I did it right the first time. Have you been to LA? I can well believe 10 thousand people were without cars. That has to be the poorest place in the U.S. > Very poor people do take bus rides. I do sympathize with the homeless > person and his cat. Some of the people in the big superdome were elderly, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Of course I don't look busy, > I did it right the first time. > Have you been to LA? I can well believe 10 thousand people were without > cars. That has to be the poorest place in the U.S. Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana are pretty much the poorest states in the USA. And the reports of people without cars in New Orleans said that at least 100,000 don't have cars (and another report said it was even higher than that). Yes, there were idiots who had cars, but didn't evacuate, but I would guess that the vast majority of the people who stayed just couldn't get out because they didn't have transportation. brian SignatureIf you want to reply to this message by mail, you will have to change the reply address to beuchaw@beuchaw.net >>Have you been to LA? I can well believe 10 thousand people were without >>cars. That has to be the poorest place in the U.S. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > brian Not to mention that if you DO have a car, who the hell can afford gas these days!!!! > > Have you been to LA? I can well believe 10 thousand people were without > > cars. That has to be the poorest place in the U.S. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > at least 100,000 don't have cars (and another report said it was even > higher than that). You don't have to be poor not to have a car. A number of people I know in Chicago (I'm one of them) don't have cars because they'd be more trouble and expense than they're worth, when there's a pretty extensive public transportation system. SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.diaryland.com/ >> Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana are pretty much the poorest states in >> the USA. And the reports of people without cars in New Orleans said that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > trouble and expense than they're worth, when there's a pretty extensive > public transportation system. Agreed (I'm in Downers Grove, but worked in the Loop for years), but from what I've heard, a large part of the car-less in New Orleans are really too poor to own one. Their mass transit system is good, but not great (streetcars and buses), and after having been down there many times, I don't think I'd want to depend on it to get to work, grocery shopping, etc. unless I had to. Most southern-type cities don't have a great mass transit system due to large areas and not enough money to build one (of course, the CTA doesn't have enough money to have a great system either :-)). It's a little better than most mass transit systems in the south (I grew up in OKC, and their mass transit system was a joke - buses that covered a negligible percentage of the large area of the city). Anyway, more to the point - please donate to whatever organization you feel like to help these thousands (tens, hundreds of thousands?) of folks that have nothing now. www.redcross.org is currently not working, but I imagine it will be back soon. brian SignatureIf you want to reply to this message by mail, you will have to change the reply address to beuchaw@beuchaw.net Seriously. What would a pet owner do? We have 3 cats and 2 dogs and pobably would have left in plenty of time to get somewhere besides the Superdome, but we'd have had to hide them in some hotel or something if we had no local family. Seems likely that no pets would be the policy at all shelters. Carl in CT ________________________________________________________________________________ check out my online Art Gallery: http://ceb364.deviantart.com/gallery/ buy some of my prints: http://ceb364.deviantart.com/store/ _______________________________________________________________________________ I noticed it seems like many hotels are now waving the no pet thing in these instances. > Seriously. What would a pet owner do? We have 3 cats and 2 dogs and > pobably would have left in plenty of time to get somewhere besides the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Carl in CT ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ > check out my online Art Gallery: > http://ceb364.deviantart.com/gallery/ > > buy some of my prints: > http://ceb364.deviantart.com/store/ ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ > Seriously. What would a pet owner do? We have 3 cats and 2 dogs and > pobably would have left in plenty of time to get somewhere besides the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Carl in CT Right, you would leave in plenty of time and sneak the pets in where you could if you had to. Barb Of course I don't look busy, I did it right the first time.
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