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-L. - 27 Aug 2005 01:55 GMT
Anyone know of a place to get Advantage at huge discount?  I used to
use VIP  but they went up in price.  

TIA for any info,
-L.
Wendy - 27 Aug 2005 03:46 GMT
http://www.petshed.com/advantage.asp?campaigncode=google

This is the cheapest I've found but can't whether it's a great price or not.

W

> Anyone know of a place to get Advantage at huge discount?  I used to
> use VIP  but they went up in price.
>
> TIA for any info,
> -L.
-L. - 27 Aug 2005 05:08 GMT
> http://www.petshed.com/advantage.asp?campaigncode=google
>
> This is the cheapest I've found but can't whether it's a great price or not.
>
> W

Thanks!  That's about 25% less than other sites I have looked at.  I
buy the large dog size and split it up into smaller dog doses. :)  I
don't need to dose the cats - they stay flea-free from the dog being
treated.

-L.
Trish - 27 Aug 2005 04:21 GMT
> Anyone know of a place to get Advantage at huge discount?  I used to
> use VIP  but they went up in price.
>
> TIA for any info,
> -L.

Now Lyn why would you be looking for cheap,  are you sure you can afford
the animals you currently have, or should they be given to someone who
can buy them only top grade Advantage...
John Doe - 27 Aug 2005 05:17 GMT
> "-L." <gentleboa peacemail.com> wrote in message

>> Anyone know of a place to get Advantage at huge discount?  I used to
>> use VIP  but they went up in price.
>> TIA for any info,

> Now Lyn why would you be looking for cheap, are you sure you can
> afford the animals you currently have, or should they be given
> to someone who can buy them only top grade Advantage...

Sounds like a troll.

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Spot - 27 Aug 2005 12:50 GMT
You know there is nothing wrong with looking for a price break.  While I
don't agree with splitting doses on this type of medications it doesn't
necessarily mean that she or anyone else can't afford to take care of their
animals.

I had a lab/husky who for years had cancer & severe arthritis I asked my vet
for a prescription to buy his pain medications on line or else to give me a
break in price and I'd buy from him.  It in no way meant that I couldn't
afford to take care of Barney.  I'd have people tell me I was nuts for
spending $70.00 a month on medications for him.  I'd just say well hell I
spend over $300.00 a month on my transplant medications so what the hell is
the difference.  It's my money I'll spend it how I want.

Celeste

> > Anyone know of a place to get Advantage at huge discount?  I used to
> > use VIP  but they went up in price.
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> the animals you currently have, or should they be given to someone who
> can buy them only top grade Advantage...
Trish - 27 Aug 2005 14:12 GMT
> You know there is nothing wrong with looking for a price break.  While I
> don't agree with splitting doses on this type of medications it doesn't
> necessarily mean that she or anyone else can't afford to take care of their
> animals.

I agree, but Lyn knows exactly why I made that commernt, her idea of a
fit home is one that is very large and there is plenty of cash to flow
around, skimping is not permitted for others, according to her past
posts when the Conan discussion was happening.
-L. - 27 Aug 2005 17:31 GMT
> I agree, but Lyn knows exactly why I made that commernt, her idea of a
> fit home is one that is very large

1200-1500 sq ft isn't "very large".  5000 sq ft is "very large".

>and there is plenty of cash to flow
> around,

Only in terms of actually being able to afford meds like Advantage,
decent foods and proper vet care.  I don't care where anyone purchases
their drugs.  If they are wise enough to save a buck, good for them.  I
have counseled many a person on where to buy less expensive pet
products in the past.

>skimping is not permitted for others, according to her past
> posts when the Conan discussion was happening.

Where did you get that idea?  The only thing I ever said was that I do
not personally place cats unless there is what I believe to be adequate
living space (I believe the statement I made was 1500sq/ft with
humans), and that I would not adopt to anyone who is not financially
solvent and stable.  The reasons for this are many, and I have outlined
them a couple of times.  I am sorry if my criteria burns your a.s.  Too
bad.  But I don't think you'll be adopting a cat from me anytime soon,
anyway.

-L.
-L. - 27 Aug 2005 17:17 GMT
> You know there is nothing wrong with looking for a price break.

Of course there isn't - those who do not are foolish.

>  While I
> don't agree with splitting doses on this type of medications

Advantage formulation is exactly the same for dogs and cats.  It is
perfectly safe to buy in bulk and aliquot what you need per dose as
long as you do so accurately, and store the meds properly.  Many people
with multiple pets do so.  In fact, the Advantage sales rep is the one
who suggested I do this initially - he was a pretty good mensch.

>it doesn't
> necessarily mean that she or anyone else can't afford to take care of their
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>
> Celeste

Good for you - you undoubtedly received much more back in terms of love
from him over his final years.  I did similar with my dog Tosh over her
last 9 months.  I just wish her quality of life woulf have held out
longer.

I am extremely frugal.  I am not into consumerism for the economy's
sake. ;)

-L.
CatNipped - 27 Aug 2005 18:12 GMT
> > You know there is nothing wrong with looking for a price break.
>
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> with multiple pets do so.  In fact, the Advantage sales rep is the one
> who suggested I do this initially - he was a pretty good mensch.

I was going to buy the large dog dose and split it up for my cats, but I
found out from my vet that, once it's open, it goes "bad" quickly.  Do you
have left-overs?  If so, how do you store it?
Spot - 27 Aug 2005 21:27 GMT
This is exactly why I won't split doses out like this.  If it's not used
immediately ingredients in the medication evaporate and it's not effective.

Celeste

> > > You know there is nothing wrong with looking for a price break.
> >
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> found out from my vet that, once it's open, it goes "bad" quickly.  Do you
> have left-overs?  If so, how do you store it?
Wendy - 27 Aug 2005 22:18 GMT
> This is exactly why I won't split doses out like this.  If it's not used
> immediately ingredients in the medication evaporate and it's not
> effective.
>
> Celeste

If someone was treating enough cats to use the entire container then it
would make sense to purchase that way I would think. I wouldn't know how to
properly store an opened large dose and knowing me would have it spilled all
over the place anyway.

W
BarB - 28 Aug 2005 17:21 GMT
>> This is exactly why I won't split doses out like this.  If it's not used
>> immediately ingredients in the medication evaporate and it's not
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>
>W

That's what I do on my vet's advice. I buy a size large enough that
it can be used all at once. I put it in a small container ( I use a
small 5ml vaccine bottle with a rubber stopper) and shake it before I
pull it up with a syringe. I dispense slightly over the minimum
dosage. I'm doing this with Revolution for the heartworm and ear mite
protection. It's been years since I have seen a flea.

BarB
-L. - 28 Aug 2005 07:50 GMT
> I was going to buy the large dog dose and split it up for my cats, but I
> found out from my vet that, once it's open, it goes "bad" quickly.

Nah.  The carrier is DMSO which basically is stable forever.

>Do you
> have left-overs?  If so, how do you store it?

I remove what I need with a needle and syringe so the opening in the
top of the tube is very small.  Then I take high-quality sealing tape
and just tape off the top so that it's sealed again.  I have used it
over the following two months with no problems.

You can have to borrow a needle/syringe from someone who is diabetic or
a friendly pharmacist or physician, though - I don't think you can buy
them without an Rx.

-L.
CatNipped - 28 Aug 2005 13:53 GMT
> > I was going to buy the large dog dose and split it up for my cats, but I
> > found out from my vet that, once it's open, it goes "bad" quickly.
>
> Nah.  The carrier is DMSO which basically is stable forever.

Then my vet must have been talking about some ingredients evaporating and
changing the composition of the whole, as another poster suggested.

> >Do you
> > have left-overs?  If so, how do you store it?
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>
> -L.

Ah, that sounds do-able.  I didn't want to try storing it in Tupperware!  ;>
idontmind@gmail.com - 28 Aug 2005 18:00 GMT
> Then my vet must have been talking about some ingredients evaporating and
> changing the composition of the whole, as another poster suggested.

The active ingredient is basically a secondary metabolite from a
bacteria - it's relatively large molecule and not volitile - definitely
not going anywhere in DMSO (which is the only other ingredient).  DMSO
(dimethyl sulfoxide) will evaporate over time, but not enough from the
small opening in a tube over a month or two to make any difference,
especially if it is sealed.

> Ah, that sounds do-able.  I didn't want to try storing it in Tupperware!  ;>

I have even opened the package, dropped out what I needed, cleaned the
top of the tube with rubbing alcohol on a swab, let it dry, and then
taped it shut with plastic sealing tape.  It worked fine the next
month.  I went to the needle/syringe to minimize the opening of the
tube.

-L.
Rhonda - 28 Aug 2005 17:58 GMT
You can buy them without an Rx. We bought them for our diabetic cat --
you just ask for them at the pharmacy. You can also buy a pack of 10 at
a time (very cheap), you don't have to buy a whole box.

Rhonda

> You can have to borrow a needle/syringe from someone who is diabetic or
> a friendly pharmacist or physician, though - I don't think you can buy
> them without an Rx.
>
> -L.
idontmind@gmail.com - 29 Aug 2005 09:56 GMT
> You can buy them without an Rx. We bought them for our diabetic cat --
> you just ask for them at the pharmacy. You can also buy a pack of 10 at
> a time (very cheap), you don't have to buy a whole box.
>
> Rhonda

I think this depends on what state you live in.  Many pharmacies don't
sell them without prescriptions because of illegal drug users.  Doesn't
make sense to me since you would think they would want to help stop the
spread of AIDS by allowing new needles to be sold.

-L.
BarB - 29 Aug 2005 16:21 GMT
>> You can buy them without an Rx. We bought them for our diabetic cat --
>> you just ask for them at the pharmacy. You can also buy a pack of 10 at
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>
>-L.

If you can't buy them, get a prescription from your vet or just buy
some from him. Next time you see your vet ask for some 1 ml syringes.
Many vets will just give them to you free because many people prefer
to dispense liquid medication with a syringe rather than that stupid
eyedropper that comes with some medication.

Texas doesn't have such a restriction on syringes but I see them
listed on line and in the vet supply catalogs I have. I use both
Calvet and KVvet. Sometimes the difference between their prices and
the pet store prices are amazing even when you figure in shipping.

BarB

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