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To -L about rotten advice
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Betsy - 25 Aug 2005 16:25 GMT Who are you?
This is the worst advice I've ever heard! How many litters of kittens have you had a "hand" in? \ I've raised countless litters of kittens, and you can pick up those babies and cuddle & kiss their little tummies right from the first day! I've never failed to socialize a cat, mother or kittens!
Five weeks?????? That is five weeks too late!!!!!
Are you a troll?
Good grief. Don't give harmful advice.
sriddles@aol.com - 25 Aug 2005 17:39 GMT > Who are you? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Good grief. Don't give harmful advice. First, you might indicate to which post you're reply, so we know what the hell you're babbling about. Second, if you bothered to read the post I *think* you are referring to, Lyn was talking about a mother cat who is moving her kittens around. That is *why* she suggested leaving them alone. Third, if you're picking up hours-old kittens, and kissing around on them, you're doing so for *your* benefit, and sure don't have the welfare of the kittens in mind. So, what are you? Backyard breeder or kitten miller?
Sherry
John Doe - 25 Aug 2005 18:03 GMT > First, you might indicate to which post you're reply, so we know > what the hell you're babbling about. Best is to just leave the subject line alone and post in context. Threading (and replying to quoted material) is part of what makes UseNet the ultimate forum for clear communication.
-L. - 25 Aug 2005 17:45 GMT > Who are you? You're Nancy (or a clone) posting from the Baltimore public library, LOL:
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-L.
Betsy - 25 Aug 2005 18:05 GMT First off I am not "Nancy".
Nyah nyah.
Second, I sent an e-mail to you by error, and for that I do apologize. I hit the "reply" button instead of the "reply group" button. I'm going to remove that button from the taskbar before it happens again. But if you don't want e-mail to automatically come to you when you are on a newsgroup, then reconfigure your account if you are so internet savvy. That's what most do.
Third, you don't need to post MY information for the world to see. I didn't do that for you. So I second the threat. Unless you get this removed from this newsgroup in a hurry (contact Google), you'll be hearing from MY attorney. I am quite serious, and will be contacting you again however necessary to make sure this occurs.
Fourth, I am no backyard breeder, but I do rescue cats that show up on my doorstep, and no, I don't usually get them abortions, although I have had to do that once or twice. I have close contact with rescue groups and breeders as need be to get advice and place animals.
Fifth, your advice continues to be horrible. Five weeks? Who are you kidding? Do you realize how much damage that can cause? Perhaps you didn't even realize that kittens open their eyes at about 10 days, and are mobile almost as soon as that (albeit slowly mobile). I quote you "You can start handling them at 5 weeks and older - once they are mobile and eyes open." Anybody who has worked with kittens realizes that they need to be constantly handled to be good pets. Rescuers and humane societies often have foster human mothers for litters of kittens for exactly this reason. You don't really think they wait until they are 5 weeks old, do you?
Lastly, cats and even other animals rarely abandon their kittens. When they do so, it is because the kittens are not viable. You might contact a wildlife rescuer to find out that it isn't even risky to touch a baby bird or other animal as previously was commonly thought.
Poor advice is dangerous. I can only hope that others that read this newsgroup are smart enough to do more research.
>> Who are you? > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > > -L. Magic Mood Jeep© - 25 Aug 2005 20:53 GMT > Third, you don't need to post MY information for the world to see. I > didn't do that for you. So I second the threat. Unless you get this > removed from this newsgroup in a hurry (contact Google), you'll be > hearing from MY attorney. I am quite serious, and will be contacting > you again however necessary to make sure this occurs. Just to make a correction here - "Google" has nothing to do with Usenet Newsgroups, besides the fact that they provide a format for netizens who do not have ISP's that carry any newsgroups services (AOL is one prime example) to access Usenet Newsgroups. From my understanding, there is no one single server that contains all the newsgroups, but *several*. A posting made using Google is sent to countless other 'servers'. There is no way to "delete" a posting once it is made - even if Google deleted it from their system, it would still be out there in Usenet-dome for all who cared to see, for who knows how long (some servers have longer retention than others)
And I don't think you have any case for any sort of a lawsuit - since, from what I can tell, -.L only posted the *library* information - unless you happen to be named Baltimore County Public Library and actually *reside* at that address (BTW, if you do reside there, we'll be sure to alert the authorities since I'm sure living in a public library is not legal, and you will either be arrested or transported to the nearest transient shelter that has vacancy - or both), you don't have a leg (or any other appendage) to stand on.
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Betsy - 25 Aug 2005 21:10 GMT Actually I suggested this because Google subsumed Deja which was the archive for all newsgroups in the past.
And there was an implication there, which you missed, that I had already been threatened.
Anyway, I'm not very internet savvy, and don't claim to be. If I were, I wouldn't have been stupid enough to copy her "revelation" at the end of my post. We all should be concerned about identity theft (not only lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blondes).
Thanks anyway.
>> Third, you don't need to post MY information for the world to see. I >> didn't do that for you. So I second the threat. Unless you get this [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > transient shelter that has vacancy - or both), you don't have a leg (or > any other appendage) to stand on. -L. - 26 Aug 2005 02:01 GMT > First off I am not "Nancy". > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > then reconfigure your account if you are so internet savvy. That's what > most do. Unsolicited email is unwelcomed by most people. You got the message loud and clear.
> Third, you don't need to post MY information for the world to see. You posted it in your header, moron. I merely decoded it.
-L.
Betsy - 26 Aug 2005 02:51 GMT No, darling, not to the list, but to you accidentally.
Have a nice evening.
>> First off I am not "Nancy". >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > -L. Outer Banks - 26 Aug 2005 03:10 GMT > No, darling, not to the list, but to you accidentally. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > -L. I recognize you but you've been on this newsgroup for long enough to know that lots of the posters are header crazy. This is what I, a mere novice, gleaned from the header of your first post to this thread:
UUNET Technologies, Inc. NETBLK-UUNETCBLK16 (NET-207-16-0-0-1) 207.16.0.0 - 207.19.255.255 Baltimore County Public Library UU-207-19-140-143 (NET-207-19-140-0-1) 207.19.140.0 - 207.19.143.255
It's not information that Lyn was only privy to from an email; everyone is privy to it and her removing her post from Google won't do a bit of good. It will still be on all the servers and it will appear in any post you make from that computer.
ob
Cheryl - 26 Aug 2005 03:21 GMT >> No, darling, not to the list, but to you accidentally. >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > ob Quit perpetuating this bullshit, Candace. You already know we know that OB is you. I thought you were smarter than this.
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"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields
Outer Banks - 26 Aug 2005 03:51 GMT > Quit perpetuating this bullshit, Candace. You already know we know > that OB is you. I thought you were smarter than this. Who I am or am not has no relevance to what I posted. :)
ob
-L. - 26 Aug 2005 05:08 GMT > > Quit perpetuating this bullshit, Candace. You already know we know > > that OB is you. I thought you were smarter than this. > > Who I am or am not has no relevance to what I posted. :) > > ob Sox don't become you, Candace. You're more of a fishnet stocking sort. ;)
-L.
Candace - 26 Aug 2005 09:31 GMT > Sox don't become you, Candace. You're more of a fishnet stocking sort. > ;) Sounds like you're implying I'm a 'ho.
Finally, I may be in the process of being outed, it's about time, everyone else here has been.
Candace
-L. - 26 Aug 2005 10:40 GMT > > Sox don't become you, Candace. You're more of a fishnet stocking sort. > > ;) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Candace LOL...sorry you were feeling left out!
-L.
sriddles@aol.com - 26 Aug 2005 15:05 GMT > > Sox don't become you, Candace. You're more of a fishnet stocking sort. > > ;) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Candace I'm working on it Candace. Give me a break, I've been busy. I hope you have my Fabulous Prizes packaged up already. :-)
Sherry
Eve N - 26 Aug 2005 05:58 GMT >> First off I am not "Nancy". >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >You posted it in your header, moron. I merely decoded it. That is neither necessary nor fair. Betsy merely stated that you are giving bad advice when you tell someone not to handle kittens until they are at least five mos. old, and she is right. You are the one who looks like a moron to most of us. Now why not get back to the topic?
Charlie Wilkes - 26 Aug 2005 11:57 GMT >> First off I am not "Nancy". >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Unsolicited email is unwelcomed by most people. You got the message >loud and clear. I think she's gotten the message that you're a flaming a.shole who can't stand to have your lousy advice corrected, not that Calvin was following it anyway.
What is more, your detective work is spectacularly bad. There are a few people in this group who can be trusted with information and therefore know a little bit about what is going on. But you're not one of them. You are one of these hysterical nit-wits who freaks out about things like "unsolicited email," so you are out of the loop, and you are destined to stay out of the loop, and your guesses are mostly wrong.
Charlie
Rrb - 26 Aug 2005 06:36 GMT > Second, I sent an e-mail to you by error, and for that I do apologize. I > hit the "reply" button instead of the "reply group" button. I'm going to > remove that button from the taskbar before it happens again. But if you > don't want e-mail to automatically come to you when you are on a newsgroup, > then reconfigure your account if you are so internet savvy. That's what > most do. Perhaps you should LEARN the difference between reply and reply-group before making demands. Sounds like user error - yours - to be precise. Why should anyone have to CHANGE anything because you're an ignorant idiot?
So I second the threat. Unless you get this removed from
> this newsgroup in a hurry (contact Google), you'll be hearing from MY > attorney. I am quite serious, and will be contacting you again however > necessary to make sure this occurs. Learn something about usenet before making such baseless threats. There are hundreds if not thousands of servers involved in propagating this newsgroup around the internet. It's not possible to easily remove your post or any replies to it from them all. LOL.
Lyn Wegrich Glover - 25 Aug 2005 18:06 GMT > Who are you? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Good grief. Don't give harmful advice. Sorry. Check the time and you will see that I posted this advice at about 3 am. By that hour I am always, well, "tired." Know what I mean?
Betsy - 25 Aug 2005 18:15 GMT So, I again ask, who are you? Are you -L? If so, why are you being so nice now when a minute ago you posted all my private information for all the world to see?
Although I always appreciate an apology, and do appreciate this one, I don't know what you are sorry about, nor what you would retract!
>> Who are you? >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > this advice at about 3 am. By that hour I am always, > well, "tired." Know what I mean? Charlie Wilkes - 25 Aug 2005 21:26 GMT >So, I again ask, who are you? Are you -L? If so, why are you being so nice >now when a minute ago you posted all my private information for all the >world to see? > >Although I always appreciate an apology, and do appreciate this one, I don't >know what you are sorry about, nor what you would retract! "Lyn Wegrich Glover" is an alias for one of Lyn's many critics.
Lyn herself does not apologize for anything.
Charlie
>>> Who are you? >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> this advice at about 3 am. By that hour I am always, >> well, "tired." Know what I mean? -L. - 26 Aug 2005 01:20 GMT > So, I again ask, who are you? Are you -L? No, that's not me.
-L.
Rrb - 26 Aug 2005 06:47 GMT > So, I again ask, who are you? Are you -L? If so, why are you being so nice > now when a minute ago you posted all my private information for all the > world to see? The information posted by -L is not private but is PUBLIC ALLY available to anyone using your posts IP address and a whois server using your posts header information:
From: "Betsy" <n0spam@n0spam.net> Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav References: <1qlPe.5$Iu5.430@news.abs.net> <aHlwYXRpYQ==.06184a55dd38c924911f5a06ceeefd8c@1124989582.nulluser.com> Subject: Re: To -L about rotten advice Lines: 37 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: <I0nPe.10$Iu5.381@news.abs.net> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:15:17 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.242.126.186 X-Complaints-To: abuse@bcpl.net X-Trace: news.abs.net 1124990120 208.242.126.186 (Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:15:20 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:15:20 EDT
Rrb - 26 Aug 2005 06:51 GMT > So, I again ask, who are you? Are you -L? If so, why are you being so nice > now when a minute ago you posted all my private information for all the > world to see? Correction:
The information posted by -L is not private but is PUBLICLY available to anyone using your posts IP address and a whois server using your posts header information:
From: "Betsy" <n0spam@n0spam.net> Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav References: <1qlPe.5$Iu5.430@news.abs.net> <aHlwYXRpYQ==.06184a55dd38c924911f5a06ceeefd8c@1124989582.nulluser.com> Subject: Re: To -L about rotten advice Lines: 37 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: <I0nPe.10$Iu5.381@news.abs.net> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:15:17 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.242.126.186 X-Complaints-To: abuse@bcpl.net X-Trace: news.abs.net 1124990120 208.242.126.186 (Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:15:20 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:15:20 EDT
Charlie Wilkes - 25 Aug 2005 21:24 GMT >> Who are you? >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >this advice at about 3 am. By that hour I am always, >well, "tired." Know what I mean? Yeah, we know alright. Tired = shitfaced drunk.
Charlie
-L. - 26 Aug 2005 01:27 GMT > Yeah, we know alright. Tired = shitfaced drunk. > > Charlie Talk to yourself much, Charlie? LOL....maybe you and Candace should hook up!
-L.
Cheryl - 26 Aug 2005 01:45 GMT > Talk to yourself much, Charlie? LOL....maybe you and Candace > should hook up! > > -L. Lyn, no one pays one bit of attention to that hanger-on. You can tell by the multiple replies to this thread that he's only still here waiting for some "action" to join in on. Boring really.
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"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields
Trish - 26 Aug 2005 02:50 GMT > > Talk to yourself much, Charlie? LOL....maybe you and Candace > > should hook up! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > by the multiple replies to this thread that he's only still here > waiting for some "action" to join in on. Boring really. ahhhhhhhhhhhh newsgroups again, my isp was on the defunk and couldn't get them so I was forced to read through google, and unless I missed something, why were sherry and Cheryl so quiet when LLL was outed, hmmmm could it be all three are the Karma chick, joined forces then clammed up tight. Or it could just be a co-inkydink...
btw, I'm curious, does anyone else use the & in the title of this channel aside from Karma and LLL... follow the white rabbit Alice... there's a whole new world down that hole
Cheryl - 26 Aug 2005 03:09 GMT > ahhhhhhhhhhhh newsgroups again, my isp was on the defunk and > couldn't get them so I was forced to read through google, and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > this channel aside from Karma and LLL... follow the white > rabbit Alice... there's a whole new world down that hole Sobor up Trish. This post is cryptically full of alchohol or drugs.
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"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields
Trish - 26 Aug 2005 03:12 GMT > > ahhhhhhhhhhhh newsgroups again, my isp was on the defunk and > > couldn't get them so I was forced to read through google, and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sobor up Trish. This post is cryptically full of alchohol or drugs. lol yes Karma's little helper, I've never used drugs in my life, nor do I consume alcohol, and is that the best you have to offer...
Cheryl - 26 Aug 2005 03:28 GMT > lol yes Karma's little helper, I've never used drugs in my life, > nor do I consume alcohol, and is that the best you have to > offer... Sure Trish, sure. I believe that. :) Just like I believe I'm "Karma's little helper". :)
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"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields
-L. - 26 Aug 2005 05:10 GMT > > lol yes Karma's little helper, I've never used drugs in my life, > > nor do I consume alcohol, and is that the best you have to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Cheryl I think I know who Karma is. S/he doesn't need your help! :D
-L.
Trish - 27 Aug 2005 05:42 GMT > > ahhhhhhhhhhhh newsgroups again, my isp was on the defunk and > > couldn't get them so I was forced to read through google, and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sobor up Trish. This post is cryptically full of alchohol or drugs. It was intended to be you twit, sobor up yourself and you'd get the point
-L. - 26 Aug 2005 05:07 GMT > > > Talk to yourself much, Charlie? LOL....maybe you and Candace > > > should hook up! [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > get them so I was forced to read through google, and unless I missed > something, why were sherry and Cheryl so quiet when LLL was outed, Outed as what? I haven't been "outed" despite whatever scenario you make up in your teeeeny mind.
hmmmm
> could it be all three are the Karma chick, joined forces then clammed up > tight. Or it could just be a co-inkydink... > > btw, I'm curious, does anyone else use the & in the title of this > channel aside from Karma and LLL... WTF are you talking about?
-L.
Trish - 26 Aug 2005 05:17 GMT > > > > Talk to yourself much, Charlie? LOL....maybe you and Candace > > > > should hook up! [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Outed as what? I haven't been "outed" despite whatever scenario you > make up in your teeeeny mind. get with the program dear, since when did you call yourself LLL, as in live, love laugh... orrrrrr hmmmm nah too easy
you have your knickers in a knot of nothing here, your name was not even mentioned, so please pick another topic you know nothing about and prattle on about that for a few days.
> hmmmm > > could it be all three are the Karma chick, joined forces then clammed up [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > WTF are you talking about? Karma knows what I'm talking about :)
-L. - 26 Aug 2005 10:44 GMT > get with the program dear, since when did you call yourself LLL, as in > live, love laugh... orrrrrr hmmmm nah too easy
> you have your knickers in a knot of nothing here, your name was not even > mentioned, so please pick another topic you know nothing about and > prattle on about that for a few days. Sorry, I don't follow every one of your petty flame-fests.
-L.
Trish - 26 Aug 2005 11:12 GMT > > get with the program dear, since when did you call yourself LLL, as in > > live, love laugh... orrrrrr hmmmm nah too easy [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -L. then how about trying this, shut your mouth and only comment on what you've actually followed
-L. - 26 Aug 2005 11:46 GMT > then how about trying this, shut your mouth and only comment on what > you've actually followed You're so charming. Why don't you crawl back under your childfree rock - it's so much more pleasant when you aren't here.
Oh I forgot - tyour only presence here is to troll.
-L.
-L. - 26 Aug 2005 05:03 GMT > > Talk to yourself much, Charlie? LOL....maybe you and Candace > > should hook up! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > by the multiple replies to this thread that he's only still here > waiting for some "action" to join in on. Boring really. Once a troll always a troll. ;)
-L.
Trish - 26 Aug 2005 05:18 GMT > > > Talk to yourself much, Charlie? LOL....maybe you and Candace > > > should hook up! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -L. What actually defines a troll, someone who has say 5 user ID's and uses them all at the same time?
Eve N - 26 Aug 2005 07:33 GMT >> > Talk to yourself much, Charlie? LOL....maybe you and Candace >> > should hook up! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >-L. You fit the bill better than anyone ive seen here. And you dont know anything about kittnes. Try brushing up on your facts before you go for the winky winky face. Anyone can cry toll.
-L. - 26 Aug 2005 11:01 GMT > You fit the bill better than anyone ive seen here. And you dont know > anything about kittnes. You're right. I don't know anything about kittnes. Kittnes is a real puzzle to me.
>Try brushing up on your facts before you go > for the winky winky face. Anyone can cry toll. You're right. I hope others here don't cry toll. There is far too much tolling as it is. I can't afford to continue on!
-L. (Going to go eat some reasins, er, raisins...)
Socks - 26 Aug 2005 15:16 GMT Toll.
> From: "Eve N via CatKB.com" <forum@CatKB.com> > Subject: Re: To -L about rotten advice [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > <1125029027.708832.265090@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: > <536824F725D0C@CatKB.com> X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.168.183.189 And doesn't that IP look familiar?? Heh. It sure does.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.health+behav/msg/1bb11235e68 da489?hl=en
Nancy's back. Or Mary. Whoever. Another day, another pair of dirty socks.
> X-Complaints-To: http://www.CatKB.com/Uwe/NB/Abuse.aspx > Complaints-To: http://www.CatKB.com/Uwe/NB/Abuse.aspx [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > anything about kittnes. Try brushing up on your facts before you go > for the winky winky face. Anyone can cry toll. Nan - 26 Aug 2005 16:51 GMT > Toll. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > And doesn't that IP look familiar?? Heh. It sure does. Yeah it sure does. It's the address of ALL the catkb posts.
lol
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.health+behav/msg/1bb11235e68 > da489?hl=en > > Nancy's back. Or Mary. Whoever. Another day, another pair of dirty socks. I see your socks no smarter than you are. LOL
Socks - 26 Aug 2005 17:39 GMT "Nan" <summersshade80NOSPAM@yahoo.com>(but not really Nan) said in news:aHlwYXRpYQ==.5701ea97b0877726ae0da52f326750e8@1125071509.nulluser.co m:
>> > <536824F725D0C@CatKB.com> X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: >> > 24.168.183.189 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > lol Nice try, but not anymore. Check again. Those silly CatKB people caught on and changed their server config. Do try to keep up.
Canonical name: cpe-024-168-183-189.nc.res.rr.com Registrant: Road Runner HoldCo, LLC
<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.health+behav/msg/1bb11235e68d a489?hl=en>
Nan - 26 Aug 2005 18:33 GMT > "Nan" <summersshade80NOSPAM@yahoo.com>(but not really Nan) said in > news:aHlwYXRpYQ==.5701ea97b0877726ae0da52f326750e8@1125071509.nulluser.co [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Registrant: > Road Runner HoldCo, LLC Oh, right. That's not because they are in NC and use RR like most people. You are so smart. My bad.
Socks - 26 Aug 2005 20:50 GMT >> "Nan" <summersshade80NOSPAM@yahoo.com>(but not really Nan) said in >> news:aHlwYXRpYQ==.5701ea97b0877726ae0da52f326750e8@1125071509.nulluser.co [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >Oh, right. That's not because they are in NC and use RR like most >people. You are so smart. My bad. Thank you.
CatKB is still using Savvis Communications for their internet connection with Level 3 as their backbone connection. Roadrunner is not involved except on the poster level of those individual posts from Eve/Mary/Rosebud/Nancy. All other recent catkb.com posters show different origins/IP.
Cheryl - 28 Aug 2005 03:23 GMT >>> "Nan" <summersshade80NOSPAM@yahoo.com>(but not really Nan) >>> said in [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > individual posts from Eve/Mary/Rosebud/Nancy. All other recent > catkb.com posters show different origins/IP. Just so you know, the nulluser.com person you're "talking" to is also "Mary". Another sock of Nancy Carter Moore. She posted through COTSE after she lost her RR account.
http://tinyurl.com/c4bla (the original post of Karma is missing now, but you get the idea)
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Trish - 28 Aug 2005 03:36 GMT > >>> "Nan" <summersshade80NOSPAM@yahoo.com>(but not really Nan) > >>> said in [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > http://tinyurl.com/c4bla > (the original post of Karma is missing now, but you get the idea) I seem to recall not long ago, you claiming you were never going to comment on the karma posting again, my my Cheryl when will you ever stick to your resolutions.
Cheryl - 28 Aug 2005 04:13 GMT On Sat 27 Aug 2005 10:36:22p, Trish wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:Iq9Qe.2377$Ld.558467 @news20.bellglobal.com):
> I seem to recall not long ago, you claiming you were never going to > comment on the karma posting again That was only before it was missing from the archives. Why is it missing Trish? Missing from the archives means all bets are off.
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Trish - 28 Aug 2005 05:21 GMT > On Sat 27 Aug 2005 10:36:22p, Trish wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:Iq9Qe.2377$Ld.558467 [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > That was only before it was missing from the archives. Why is it > missing Trish? Missing from the archives means all bets are off. hell if I know why it's missing, ask your buddy karma, or is she back in detox? lol and since when were their conditions on your resolution, you don't get to add them on a whim, how old are you , 5?
Charlie Wilkes - 28 Aug 2005 05:29 GMT >On Sat 27 Aug 2005 10:36:22p, Trish wrote in >rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:Iq9Qe.2377$Ld.558467 [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >That was only before it was missing from the archives. Why is it >missing Trish? Missing from the archives means all bets are off. I think you should refer that question to Google, if you are really so dumb you have to ask.
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Diane - 28 Aug 2005 12:17 GMT > >That was only before it was missing from the archives. Why is it > >missing Trish? Missing from the archives means all bets are off. > > I think you should refer that question to Google, if you are really so > dumb you have to ask. Google has nothing to do with canceling posts.
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Trish - 28 Aug 2005 12:49 GMT > > >That was only before it was missing from the archives. Why is it > > >missing Trish? Missing from the archives means all bets are off. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Google has nothing to do with canceling posts. and neither do I, btw Diane why did you remove chreyl's header, please assign the correct headers to the correct accusations.
Megan - 26 Aug 2005 17:11 GMT > Toll. > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Complaints-To: http://www.CatKB.com/Uwe/NB/Abuse.aspx > > Lines: 14 A helpful hint: when you use a server that only operates in Indiana you are not anonymous.
:) idontmind@gmail.com - 27 Aug 2005 01:15 GMT > Toll. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Nancy's back. Or Mary. Whoever. Another day, another pair of dirty socks. Guess her virtual ass-whupping didn't do the job. Oh well...
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Rhonda - 27 Aug 2005 04:52 GMT Well, if that's true -- we have a sock puppet calling someone else a sock puppet. What next, Armageddon or just more spelling errors?
I am incredibly glad to be out of the loop.
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> Nancy's back. Or Mary. Whoever. Another day, another pair of dirty socks. Charlie Wilkes - 25 Aug 2005 21:20 GMT >Who are you? She's a deeply unhappy person who has been hostile to Calvin from the git-go. She thinks he is morally evil because he allowed the mother cat to have her litter instead of getting it aborted.
>This is the worst advice I've ever heard! How many litters of kittens have >you had a "hand" in? >\ >I've raised countless litters of kittens, and you can pick up those babies >and cuddle & kiss their little tummies right from the first day! I've never >failed to socialize a cat, mother or kittens! Calvin is doing a great job. The mother cat is delighted with the situation -- plenty of food and a human protector for herself and her litter.
>Five weeks?????? That is five weeks too late!!!!! > >Are you a troll? > >Good grief. Don't give harmful advice. This story is headed for a happy ending, and that really, really bothers Lyn.
Charlie
SaSha - 26 Aug 2005 02:42 GMT Cheryl said,
> Lyn, no one pays one bit of attention to that hanger-on. You can tell > by the multiple replies to this thread that he's only still here > waiting for some "action" to join in on. Boring really. God Cheryl.
You are such a lonely person. All alone inside that house with nothing more to keep you company other than a computer, television, and telephone. Guilt ridden by your young son whose life was tragically taken away from him, who didn't have the opportunity to grow up to the man, the husband, the father, the grandfather he should have been. You'll pay for it every day of your life till you drop dead. The meaner you become the worse you'll feel, the worse your life will be. And, you deserve that, because you are a wretched person. You have to live with yourself 24/7. (shivers) What a ghastly life!
SaSha - 26 Aug 2005 02:48 GMT Cheryl said,
>Lyn, no one pays one bit of attention to that hanger-on. You can tell >by the multiple replies to this thread that he's only still here >waiting for some "action" to join in on. Boring really.
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God Cheryl.
You are such a lonely person. All alone inside that house with nothing more to keep you company other than a computer, television, and telephone. Guilt ridden by your young son whose life was tragically taken away from him, who didn't have the opportunity to grow up to the man, the husband, the father, the grandfather he should have been. You'll pay for it every day of your life till you drop dead. The meaner you become the worse you'll feel, the worse your life will be. And, you deserve that, because you are a wretched person. You have to live with yourself 24/7. (shivers)What a ghastly life!
Rrb - 26 Aug 2005 06:25 GMT > I've raised countless litters of kittens, Ok, so exactly how many COUNTLESS litters have you raised? One or Two? Be specific.
Eve N - 26 Aug 2005 07:31 GMT >> I've raised countless litters of kittens, > >Ok, so exactly how many COUNTLESS litters have you raised? One or Two? >Be specific. What does this have to do with Lynn saying that kittens should not be handled until they are 5 weeks old? Are you saying that you agree with that?
If you have to be aggressive for no apparent reasin, at least have a point, you clumsy sock puppet!
Mia S - 27 Aug 2005 00:19 GMT >Who are you? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Good grief. Don't give harmful advice. I agree. Five weeks is to late to wait to handle kittens, but I don't think this is a troll. I think she just doesn't know any better and doesn't have the class to admit when she's wrong.
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