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Nancy Verzich - 28 Sep 2003 20:14 GMT Hi everyone, I've never posted here before but have been lurking and reading all your posts. The post below was posted to another pet NG but no one replied and its still bothering me, 3 days later. I hope you don't mind me posting it here also...I am really sad and just wanted to get this off my chest. I am a cat person...always have been...but in the last 10 yrs or so, it seems like I've sorta become "allergic" in a way to them. If I even touch the fur my eyes get all itchy and they burn etc. So, I don't generally hold our cat anyway. Well, we got this cat about 3 months ago...just a plain old tiger striped stray, who was a tiny kitten when my 6yr old daughter found her outside. We aren't allowed to have pets here, but.......So anyway this cat became part of our family. I also have a 17 yr old son who is very overweight and has NO friends. So this cat became his best friend. We didn't allow the cat outside, because we didn't really want neighbors to see her and also, we didn't want the fleas in here. So we kept her inside. But lately, she's been sneaking out if my daughter didn't shut the door tight enough or if any of us held it open just a second too long. She always came back tho...so not that big of a deal. Today, my daughter was outside and came back in to get something, and forgot to shut the door all the way. Of course, the cat got out. The cat was kinda weird, because she just RECENTLY opened up to me, personally....she's been loving my kids up ever since we got her, but she hasn't really come around to me until the last couple of weeks or so. So today, I go to the door and call her....she thinks I'm playing with her LOL...so she is darting out there all around. Finally she goes across the street to the neighbors yard, and all the way as she's crossing the street, I"m worrying about a car coming and hitting her...then, she just SAT there on the side of the road in the neighbors grass as the cars were passing and I was afriad that a car would spook her and she would run, but she didn't. Well, she wouldn't come in either, I guess she wanted to play for a while. About 15 minutes later I went to the door and called her again...this time she decided that she was going to come to me. She started running across the street, and just like in slow motion, I saw a car come down the street at the same time. I saw her little body go under the car, and I tried to cover my eyes. I listened for that HORRIBLE sound that you know is coming...but I didn't hear it....the car never even slowed down, it just kept going. The cat dashed up the street running like a maniac into the field. Every 10 minutes or so I would go to the door and call her, because I knew she was scared...but at the same time I"m trying to cook dinner and do a hundred other things. So everytime I called and she didn't come, I figured ok, I'll try again in a few minutes. When my hubby came home, I told him what had happened....he figured that she was fine and just scared/hiding, or maybe just out playing. My son and I a few hours later decided to go and look for her....we found her poor little dead body in the field...right where I had seen her enter it at. She didn't have any outer "evidence" at all of gettig hit...but it obviously happened immediately when she got to the field because she was only off of the road maybe 5 feet. My son freaked out..she was his best friend in the whole world....everyone is blaming everyone else...my daughter's fault for leaving the door open...my son's fault for not going out to get the cat right when she first got out...MY fault for calling to her and causing her to run across the street...*sigh* I dunno....All I know is that I can't get her out of my head......dammit. Nancy
MacCandace - 28 Sep 2003 21:19 GMT << MY fault for calling to her and causing her to run across the street...*sigh* I dunno....All I know is that I can't get her out of my head......dammit. Nancy >>
Well, I'm terribly sorry about your poor little kitty and I'm sure you all miss her very much and perhaps I'll get flamed for being uncompassionate here but please don't get another cat until you have an environment where you can assure its safety. Yes, accidents happen and indoor-only cats get out sometimes...it can happen to anyone but this apparently happened repeatedly where your daughter left the door open. Your daughter is only 6 so she can't be blamed but a cat shouldn't be in that environment especially when you live on a busy street. I know you took her in as a stray but I always have a bad feeling about people taking in cats when they are not supposed to have them where they live. Sometimes they get away with it and the cat has a fine life but a lot of times bad things happen...like this or they have to "get rid" of it when the landlord finds out, etc. I wouldn't get another cat while you live there. Maybe a fish or bird or hamster or something but not a cat.
That poor little kitten didn't live a very long life at all. Please don't try to "replace" her until a) you live where you can legally have pets and 2) your kids are mature enough to understand that the door has to be closed at all times. It's too bad you're all blaming each other and I'm sure that is an unhealthy and unhappy situation for all of you but the cat is dead and there is no bringing her back. She's the one who paid the ultimate price.
She probably had internal injuries and was initially in shock so was able to run. When I was 13, back in the days when people let their cats out all the time, my cat was hit by a car and took off running. I found this out when I was going door to door looking for her and one woman had seen her get hit and then run off into a field. The lady told me she had probably gone off to die. Fortunately, she was wrong and I found her a couple of days later in some bushes a couple of blocks away. She was seriously injured with a broken pelvis although she had no external injuries. She fully recovered after several months of convalesence and became an indoor cat that day.
Like I said, I'm sorry she died and I know you all feel bad but next time your daughter finds a stray, find it another home, unless you are living elsewhere where you can have a cat. Also...if it had been my cat, I would have gone after her right away when I saw her run into the field whether or not I was "cooking dinner." Big deal, that's just food; the cat was a living creature who, no doubt, was in a lot of pain. It sounds like it was many hours before you even went into the field and found her. If you had found her right away, you may have been able to save her by getting her to a vet immediately. This whole story is really very tragic from the cat's point of view. And she may not have died right away--hopefully, she did--but just because she was right in the place you saw her enter doesn't mean that. It may mean she laid there and suffered for hours but was unable to move anymore. Not a lovely story.
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Meghan Noecker - 29 Sep 2003 09:27 GMT Also...if it had been my cat, I would have gone
>after her right away when I saw her run into the field whether or not I was >"cooking dinner." Big deal, that's just food; the cat was a living creature >who, no doubt, was in a lot of pain. It sounds like it was many hours before >you even went into the field and found her. If you had found her right away, >you may have been able to save her by getting her to a vet immediately. I, too, am very surprised by this. We currently have 4 cats. One is indoor/outdoor as my sister insists on hers going outside. The others are all indoor only, and when one escapes (it does happen), we all go out immediately. I don't even stop for shoes. If it is dark, we grab flashlights, but otherwise, we don't stop for anything. One person immediately heads for the street, so that if the cat heads that way, we can at least shoo them back down to the house or yard. And we don't quit until we have the animal safe inside.
We don't have too many scares. Kira associates the door with the vet, so in 11 years, she has escaped only once, and that was when she was a kitten. She got about 3 feet out the door before I scarfed her up. She never approaches the door, and she actually freaks if she sees me outside. The world does not exist outside the house.
Maynard is the escape artist. He is 17, he used to get out about once a year. I think it has been about 3 years since his last escape. But we know he is the escape artist, so anytime we will be going in and out a lot, we lock him up first. We are also very careful about the screen door latching. It is slow to latch, so I always stop and wait for it to latch before walking off.
I know it is harder with kids, and we had to train my nephew to always be careful of the door and the cats. But my cats are very important to me, so I consider them a high priority. I will drop anything to protect them from danger, and I expect everybody who enters my home to follow the rules of keeping the cats in and the gate shut (for the dogs).
Also, they don't always die right away, so if found quickly, they can sometimes be saved. We found a stray that had been hit by a car. He had a broken jaw and lost an eye, but was healing quite well with medical treatment. Who knows how long he had been there. He did die a few weeks later after getting sick, but most likely because he was already malnourished. Had he been a healthy cat before being hit, he would have recovered quite well. And that was after serious head injuries.
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PawsForThought - 29 Sep 2003 22:35 GMT >From: friesian@zoocrewphoto.com (Meghan Noecker)
>Also...if it had been my cat, I would have gone >>after her right away when I saw her run into the field whether or not I was [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >would have recovered quite well. And that was after serious head >injuries. I feel the same way, Meghan. My cats are also very important to me and we are very careful going in and out, and when we have company, we put the cats in the bedroom. Fortunately, only Mickey has gotten out and it was only once. He squeezed out the door before we knew because a squirrel was on the porch. We were out the door so fast after him that we were able to pull him off the tree he climbed while running after the squirrel.
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Karen - 28 Sep 2003 23:54 GMT > Hi everyone, I've never posted here before but have been lurking and > reading all your posts. The post below was posted to another pet NG but no [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > is that I can't get her out of my head......dammit. > Nancy I'm really sorry to hear this. It is a tragedy and I hope the family can overcome the finger pointing. It will not bring the cat back. I've never understood why kids can't close doors, but it seems to be an impossible feat for some of them. No matter how many times my mother tells my nephews to make sure the door is shut tight, they leave it open a bit. She has a porch, so the cats have only gotten out a couple of times, but it still is a mystery to me how even teenage kids can't make sure of the doors. All in all, it is something you will just all have to overcome. I'm very sad for you all.
Karen
PawsForThought - 29 Sep 2003 00:05 GMT >From: "Nancy Verzich" nverzich906@adelphia.net
>.everyone is blaming everyone else...my >daughter's fault for leaving the door open...my son's fault for not going >out to get the cat right when she first got out...MY fault for calling to >her and causing her to run across the street...*sigh* I dunno....All I know >is that I can't get her out of my head......dammit. >Nancy I'm sorry for your loss. However, not to sound harsh, but if you do decide at some time in the future to get another cat, it would be a lot safer to keep the cat indoors or build a safe outdoor enclosure, or train the cat to a harness and leash. Cats are living beings that deserve our protection. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
Betsy - 29 Sep 2003 02:23 GMT Gosh, that's really hard. You can't be blamed for anything if you are being honest in your post, so please don't pay any attention to those who say you were irresponsible at all.
In real life we have to deal with people who are less than perfect. My brother is always willing to lend me a hand in a tough situation. Once he came over and despite years of warnings (and growing up in a multi-cat household) he didn't close the door tightly. I'd just rescued a stray who had recently weaned a litter of kittens, and of course she dashed out. She came back several days later and I knew she'd been courted. Sure enough, about a week later she showed signs of pregnancy. I hated to end it, but it just wasn't possible--anyway she had birthed a couple of deformed kittens in the last litter.
How could I yell at my brother? He was there to help, and felt awful. I thought he was adequately trained, too!
So now you've learned the hard way how easy it is for a cat and a car to meet. I hope you DO get another cat for your son, and you take allergy medication (I take Claritin religiously). You will be an excellent owner.
Take care.
> Hi everyone, I've never posted here before but have been lurking and > reading all your posts. The post below was posted to another pet NG but no [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > is that I can't get her out of my head......dammit. > Nancy Alexandra - 29 Sep 2003 18:10 GMT Nancy, I read your post, and I had tears in my eyes for you, your family, and your little kitty. I am so sorry. Your children learned a hard lesson. I am not going to blame you or your 6 year old. I am sure that everyone has been pretty hard on themselves. I think that your son should have another cat at some point, since he lost his buddy and a pet can help a teen get through his rough years. My cats used to save me when I was an adolescent, and as an adult, my two guys still do. I think the only advice might be to practice door discipline almost to the point of an obsessive-compulsive next time. Also, you cannot rely upon your children to be 100% responsible. Kids forget. Sure, you can teach them, but you have to oversee what they are doing, be it feeding, litter box duty or keeping the door closed. But, I think it would be a good idea to get another cat later on because you don't want to tell your 6 year old that you'll never get a cat again because she left the door open. That would be a horrible thing for a little girl to live with. I hope everyone in your family has forgiven each other and will forgive themselves.
All the best, Alex
-L. - 29 Sep 2003 09:09 GMT > Hi everyone, I've never posted here before but have been lurking and > reading all your posts. The post below was posted to another pet NG but no > one replied and its still bothering me, 3 days later. I hope you don't mind > me posting it here also... FWIW, the running reaction is normal in animals that are fatally injured - sometimes they just run as a reflex and collapse. Don't blame yourselves, but realize it is a mistake, and we are all human.
When you are ready, take your son to a shelter and adopt a kitten off of death row to be an INSIDE cat - and take extra precautions to keep it inside. That way, you will be saving a life, and helping heal your feelings at the same time. Do it in honor of the kitty you lost.
Best of luck, and sorry about your kitty,
-L.
~*SooZy*~ - 29 Sep 2003 14:31 GMT sorry to hear of your lose Nancy, as you are not allowed cats could you not get another pet for your son? it always so sad when you loose a pet, no body is to blame :-(
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> Hi everyone, I've never posted here before but have been lurking and > reading all your posts. The post below was posted to another pet NG but no [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > is that I can't get her out of my head......dammit. > Nancy
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