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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / September 2003Swheat Scoop Recommendation -- Retracted
Okay, I'm tired of this stuff. It didn't have the curative effect on Kami's allergy eyes I had hoped for, but I kept using it because I thought it was good to use something so totally biodegradable. You know, when it's wet it really stinks. It smells like a barn or rotting bakery. And it dries like concrete on the bottom of the box. At least with clay scoops you could scoop at it once or twice, or bounce the box, and it would release, but I just broke my super heavy "doody" large scoop trying to chisel it out. I still haven't found Papurr again, but since changing the litter didn't help her eyes, I don't really care. Back to the drawing board.  SignatureBrandy??Alexandre? http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? Brandy Alexandre wrote: > You know, when it's wet it really stinks. It smells like a barn or rotting > bakery. That's strange because I use Swheat, and don't notice any smell other than a wheat or oatmeal type smell - even right after it has been used. Has your cat been cleared of any urinary problems? > And it dries like concrete on the bottom of the box. At least I presume you keep the box at least three inches full as recommended by Swheat? They also recommend cleaning the box three times a day. Which seems excessive but maybe twice a day will help. I do mine once a day with the box kept three inches full of the litter, and have never had a problem. > I still haven't found Papurr again, but since changing the litter > didn't help her eyes, I don't really care. Back to the drawing board. Have you considered or taken your cat to the vet for whatever allergy or whatever problem she is having? >From: rrb_091903 >Brandy Alexandre wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >than a wheat or oatmeal type smell - even right after it has been used. >Has your cat been cleared of any urinary problems? I use SS too and don't notice any smell either. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm rrb_091903 <rrb_091903@cox.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> I still haven't found Papurr again, but since changing the litter >> didn't help her eyes, I don't really care. Back to the drawing >> board. > > Have you considered or taken your cat to the vet for whatever > allergy or whatever problem she is having? Her issue is apparently blocked tear ducts and we don't know if it's allergy related. That's why I changed the litter. She has also had antibiotic ointment and such, and the last ditch would be to try flushing them under sedation. The vet said that prospect given her age is more risky than leaving it be, especially when it's just a 50/50 chance of success. Yeah, she's been to the vet... She's a CRF kitty. SignatureBrandy??Alexandre? http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? I changed my litter box to a Booda brand which seems to have a different time of plastic (more matte, less porous) and the Swheat Scoop doesn't stick at all. You really have to keep the level 3" or more, though, but I only scoop once a day. Kirsten > rrb_091903 <rrb_091903@cox.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Yeah, she's been to the vet... She's a CRF kitty. >From: "k conover" kirstencono@yahoo.com >I changed my litter box to a Booda brand which seems to have a different >time of plastic (more matte, less porous) and the Swheat Scoop doesn't stick >at all. You really have to keep the level 3" or more, though, but I only >scoop once a day. >Kirsten Is that a covered box? What I do is use those large black garbage bags to line the box. I actually put the box inside the bag so it's really the outside of the bag that acts as the liner. But it does tend to stick to the liner. Someone told me they use that non-stick spray Pam on the box so it doesn't stick. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm >That's strange because I use Swheat, and don't notice any smell other >than a wheat or oatmeal type smell - even right after it has been used. >Has your cat been cleared of any urinary problems? The only time it has smelled bad for me was one time when I was down to a small amount in the box, and had to wait a couple days to get paid to buy more. It can ferment and then smell really bad. But if scooped regularly, it doesn't smell at all, and I would have to say it is the best litter I have every used for odor control. I have also gone out of town for 2-3 days at a time with two boxes filled extra full. No smell when I got home even though it hadn't been scooped for a couple days. >> And it dries like concrete on the bottom of the box. At least > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >with the box kept three inches full of the litter, and have never had a >problem. I scoop daily unless I am gone for a weekend. I also keep it extra full. Not because it helps with scooping (though it certainly does), but because one cat prefers it extra deep, and loves to dig like crazy. He gets really excited when i top I add more litter to make it deeper again. I used to spray the liner with non-stick food spray, but since they reformulated it a while back, I don't do that anymore. My cats and I really love the shweat scoop. I hate clay litters because of the dust and smell. I have allergies, and I detest the clay litters. I wanted a scoopable litter, but most of them are silicon or other nasty stuff that my cat might accidentally ingest.I tried swheat scoop because it is digestible so there is no danger if the cat gets some. There are also times when the dog gets into it, though I do have a wall built around it to try and prevent that. I have also found that tracking is less of a problem. Yes, it does track, but little pieces of wheat are more agreeable with my socked feet than chunks of clay litter. Since then, I added a third cat, and he is much pickier about litter than my older cats. They have used everything without reservation over the years. This one actually refused when I ran out of shweat scoop and brought home a different kind that was in pellets. I didn't want clay litter, and that was all they had at the grocery. I have to get swheat scoop at a pet store. Anyway, he loves the fine grain, and he loves it really deep, so he loves this litter. I've been using it for several years now. I started back when it was barely available. Only one store carried it, and they only bought 2 small bag per week. I was thrilled when the nearby pet store started carrying it, and now Petsmart and Petco have it too. Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com Brandy Alexandre wrote: > Okay, I'm tired of this stuff. It didn't have the curative effect on > Kami's allergy eyes I had hoped for, but I kept using it because I > thought it was good to use something so totally biodegradable. You > know, when it's wet it really stinks. It smells like a barn or rotting > bakery. And it dries like concrete on the bottom of the box. At least Uh huh... both of the reported symptoms (stink & hard as concrete) indicate to me that you don't clean the box often enough. Hell, your toilet stinks too when you don't flush it. Poor Kami... stuck with you. Signature"Its the bugs that keep it running." -Joe Canuck >Uh huh... both of the reported symptoms (stink & hard as concrete) >indicate to me that you don't clean the box often enough. I have to agree. Scoopable litter isn't intended to sit for several days without scooping. I have managed to go for a weekend without scooping, and it is not stinky or hard as concrete, but I also fill them extra full, so that cats can bury it well without it lumping together at the bottom. When scooped only once a day, I have no problems whatsoever. The lumps are invidual, not all clumped together. I might have a chunck stuck in the corners as one does aim for the side. But it comes off easily enough. I can scoop both litters in just a couple minutes. I do typically start each box with about 10 lbs of litter and then top it off as it goes down. I use boxes that are not covered (I have found it is easier to ignore the litter box if I can't see it, and I doubt cats enjoy the smell being contained). I do have the kind with the rim that attaches to the box, giving it about 4 inches more on the sides. Without this, the cats shovel the litter right out of the box while digging and covering. Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com Meghan Noecker <friesian@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >>Uh huh... both of the reported symptoms (stink & hard as concrete) >>indicate to me that you don't clean the box often enough. > > I have to agree. Scoopable litter isn't intended to sit for > several days without scooping. Well, I don't know who wrote that, but I have my guesses. We go through a LOT of litter because Kami pees a LOT. I work 10 to 12 hours a day and, yes, may go 24 hours without scooping. I didn't say it all dries hard as concrete, but that it sticks to the bottom that way. Yes, it can dry like that in 24 hours. Whatever else reaches the bottom is really gummy. I don't think Kami likes it anymore, and I know I don't. > I have managed to go for a weekend without scooping, and it is not > stinky or hard as concrete, but I also fill them extra full, so > that cats can bury it well without it lumping together at the > bottom. Kami pushes most of the litter to one end of the box and unfortunately pees on the other. It might just be that her bathroom style cannot be well enough supported by this litter if everyone says it has to be deep or else. It always starts out evenly deep. It doesn't stay that way more than an hour. :) SignatureBrandy??Alexandre? http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? Brandy Alexandre wrote: > Meghan Noecker <friesian@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Well, I don't know who wrote that, but I have my guesses. We go Every so often I take you out of my bozo bin just to see if anything interesting is going on... you never disappoint me. > through a LOT of litter because Kami pees a LOT. I work 10 to 12 hours > a day and, yes, may go 24 hours without scooping. I didn't say it all > dries hard as concrete, but that it sticks to the bottom that way. > Yes, it can dry like that in 24 hours. Whatever else reaches the > bottom is really gummy. I don't think Kami likes it anymore, and I > know I don't. Then I stand by what I said. If the litter box gets a lot of use, it needs to be cleaned out more often. It doesn't sound like you manage the box very well. Poor Kami. Signature"Its the bugs that keep it running." -Joe Canuck |
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