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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / August 2005Fatass in rough shape
Fatass, my CRF cat who is 16 1/2 years old, is now blind, and her BUN and CR numbers are as bad as they were when she was first diagnosed at the end of May. Last week my wife noticed Fats was acting a little off, and thought it might be her vision, so I tested it with the flashlight and by dropping cotton balls infront of her face, no reaction...Off to the vet we went at 8pm... They tested her BP, it was high, and they beleive that the high BP caused a detached retina in one eye. The other eye was also on its way out. They prescribed Norvasc. Even worse, they did another blood test, her BUN is now 133, and her CR is now 8.3. These are sky high, espcially given that she has been getting fluids every day since late May. Over the past two months we got it down from 131 to 66 to 58...Same with the cr, we got it down from 8.8 to 5.8 to 5.3, but these new numbers are really bad. Her weight also dropped from 8.8lbs to 8.1 lbs over the past 5 weeks. (although she was so fat that at this weight, she just looks slender - she isn't even close to emaciated.) Anyway, her daily meds are now 250ml of lactated ringers (with a level 2 heart murmur - but with the kidneys so close to total failure, I have to up the fluids.), 4mg of Cypro, .75mg of Norvasc, 1/4 pepcid, and 2 Renal Essentials for cats tablets. She is still eating, albeit with help from the cypro. She finds me, can walk around the house alright, jumps on the couch and bed, never had an accident, and likes to listen and smell what is going on outside...she still purrs like a motorboat, so I am not giving up on her. But realistically I don't think she has much time left. I hate the thought of her being miserable and having to put her in the carrier for the last ride to the vet, which she hates. If she goes, I hope she goes peacefully and quickly at home. Later, Bluesman > Fatass, my CRF cat who is 16 1/2 years old, is now blind, and her BUN > and CR numbers are as bad as they were when she was first diagnosed at [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Bluesman If she doesn't, I think you will be able to tell when it is time. SHe sounds like she is holding up well. THe blood pressure medicine should help. On Mon 15 Aug 2005 02:23:18p, wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:1124130198.734394.101110@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com): > But realistically I don't think she has much time left. I hate > the thought of her being miserable and having to put her in the > carrier for the last ride to the vet, which she hates. > > If she goes, I hope she goes peacefully and quickly at home. Hoping the same. I'm so sorry she's going downhill. So hard to watch that. Such a helpless feeling. :(  SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields | Over the past two months we got it down from 131 to 66 to 58...Same | with the cr, we got it down from 8.8 to 5.8 to 5.3, but these new | numbers are really bad. Basically, she crashed, and from your description, she's still in crisis. Your best shot is to take her in for several days of IV fluids. They're much better at flushing the system than subQs during crises. Please don't wait: discuss it with the vet. | Her weight also dropped from 8.8lbs to 8.1 lbs over the past 5 weeks. | (although she was so fat that at this weight, she just looks slender - | she isn't even close to emaciated.) Weight loss is inevitable with CRF, because less body mass means less creatinine production. Be concerned only about sudden drops. | But realistically I don't think she has much time left. I hate the | thought of her being miserable and having to put her in the carrier for | the last ride to the vet, which she hates. | | If she goes, I hope she goes peacefully and quickly at home. I feel for you. My Scruffy was in a bad way for a month. Then, in the space of hours it went from bad but bearable - he was very strong and perfectly healthy except for his kidneys = to hopeless, so fast that I didn't wait for the appointment in the evening at home I had already made, but took him in at once. He absolutely hated carriers, but he was in no shape to protest. My own personal experience was this: as long as Scruffy was still the Scruffy I knew, doing his characteristic Scruffy things, I couldn't and didn't end it. It was a matter of the spirit. And then, when he fell off a cliff at the end, I didn't wait for him to hit the bottom. Again, a matter of the spirit. FWIW. Unfinished album: http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=4644746&uid=514878 I'm sorry Fatass is not doing so well. It is possible that the retina can re-attach once you get the blood pressure under control. So it's possible the blindness may not be permanent. Sue > Fatass, my CRF cat who is 16 1/2 years old, is now blind, and her BUN > and CR numbers are as bad as they were when she was first diagnosed at [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Bluesman > Fatass, my CRF cat who is 16 1/2 years old, is now blind, and her BUN > and CR numbers are as bad as they were when she was first diagnosed >at the end of May. I'm very sorry, I know you have done everything you could for her over the past months. Hopefully, Arjun is correct and she crashed but will bounce back again. I, too, had a kitty who died of CRF; it's very sad and hard to know what is best but I would give her time to recover from this crisis and, as Arjun said, IV fluids might be better than sub-q for right now. Best to FA, Candace Thanks for the kind reponses everyone. The vet did in fact suggest IV for a few days, but I was not leaving a blind, sick and scared cat in an unfamiliar place for that long. Strangely enough, if appetite is any indicator, she seems to be doing a bit better over the past few days. I am not fooling myself with false hope here, but as long as she is eating she is alright...and she is eating a couple of ounces of wet food twice a day as well as another ounce or so of dry treats. If I can keep getting 5-6 oz of food in her a day, along with her meds and some B-complex, I might be able to pull her out of this crash. (her 2nd in a span of 3 months.) When she doesn't eat, I will be ready with the syringe to try and get her past the bad days... I think I will know when the time comes - but it is not that time yet. Later, Bluesman Much love to you Bluesman and Scruffy. Sincerely, Jen >Thanks for the kind reponses everyone. The vet did in fact suggest IV >for a few days, but I was not leaving a blind, sick and scared cat in [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Bluesman | Thanks for the kind reponses everyone. The vet did in fact suggest IV | for a few days, but I was not leaving a blind, sick and scared cat in | an unfamiliar place for that long. I strongly urge you to reconsider this decision. A few days at the vets is not going to hurt her. On the contrary, if there's anything that *can* pull her out of the crisis, it would be IV fluids, and not subQs. Which is more important, her mental state for a short while, or her prsopects over the longer haul? > | Thanks for the kind reponses everyone. The vet did in fact suggest IV > | for a few days, but I was not leaving a blind, sick and scared cat in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > subQs. Which is more important, her mental state for a short while, > or her prsopects over the longer haul? I second this. Contrary to what you might think, She will be fine at the vet and needs hospitalization, IMO, based on what you posted. Best of luck - it's a sad situation. -L. Well, I get home from work yesterday and two of out three bowls of food have been eaten. No assisted feeding needed yesterday, and this was on 1/2 dose of cypro. Perhaps the Norvasc is starting to do it's job. She was looking for me to give her some treats in the evening as well. She is piping up. We are not out of the hole yet, but I think she may be bouncing back. Treat the cat, not the numbers is what Doctor Dan always tells me. I know this cat. Hospitalization last week would have been a mistake. She is old, blind and happiest at home with me...And she is tough as nails, fighting hard to come back a second time from a crash - I am convinced she would not have fought to live if she was in a cold unfamiliar cage with strangers all around her. No way. Bluesman > Thanks for the kind reponses ev > I think I will know when the time comes - but it is not that time yet. I'm sorry to hear about your cat. I lost a cat to CRF and it's very hard. I read your last post and I think it sounds promising. At some point, when the time does come, you might want to consider having a vet come to your house, instead of having to bring the cat in. That's what we did and I think it made it easier for Queenie. Lauren (and Mickey & Meesha) See my cats: http://tinyurl.com/76tg8 |
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