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advice on "kitty bedroom"

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Joseph O'Brien - 14 Aug 2005 12:31 GMT
Hi, everyone!  I have two cats, male and female, both fixed, both 3
years old, and both delightful parts of our lives.  Over the last year,
they have developed a very specific routine.  At 4:30 am, the male
wakes me up by pawing on things in our room, walking over our heads,
etc.  I get up, put him on the back porch, and go back to bed.  If I
can find the female, I will usually toss her out there, too, but she
usually hides.  Then, around 6:00 am, she wakes us up.

They don't want food or water, they don't appear to want to go outside,
and if I stay up, they just ignore me.

Anyway, it's to the point that I am considering keeping them on the
porch all night long.  I have tried closing the door to our bedroom and
locking them in the laundry room, but they start to meow and I'm afraid
it will wake my upstairs and downstairs neighbors.

However, I feel a little guilty about leaving them out there all night.
I'm trying to think of how to arrange it to make it comfortable for
them... some place they want to go at night so I don 't have to hunt
for them.  Here's what I've come up with so far:
- fresh food and water
- litter box
- heated beds/boxes (for winter months)
- fan (too keep the air moving in the summer)
- scratching post
- toys

Can you think of anything else they would need?  I feel so bad about
putting them out there all night, because they have had free reign of
the house for 3 years.  However, we both work 8-5:00, so it's important
that we get a good night of sleep.

Thanks for your suggestions.
Joseph
Newbie - 14 Aug 2005 15:14 GMT
: Hi, everyone!  I have two cats, male and female, both fixed, both 3
: years old, and both delightful parts of our lives.  Over the last year,
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: had free reign of the house for 3 years.  However, we both work 8-5:00,
: so it's important that we get a good night of sleep.

I am no expert but here is a guess. Unless you change their routine,
cats are naturally noctural. Yours are probably sleeping much of the
day and are full of energy just when you are trying to sleep. From
their viewpoint you are being incomprehensibly lethargic. :)

Try some vigorous activity/play for them in the evening. That might
cause them sleep longer hours in the night.

Another thing is, since you respond to your cat at 4:30 AM, he probably
thinks it a fun activity for both of you. Difficult though it may be,
try simply to ignore him.

PS. If your porch is safe, nothing wrong with leaving them there all
night either. They can still have the house all day. You just have to
set up duplicate facilites for them.
Karen - 14 Aug 2005 15:55 GMT
> : Hi, everyone!  I have two cats, male and female, both fixed, both 3
> : years old, and both delightful parts of our lives.  Over the last year,
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> night either. They can still have the house all day. You just have to
> set up duplicate facilites for them.

Have to agree with this post (I know my mom's cats would be thrilled to be
banished to the porch all night, even when it is hot. Don't ask me why but
that is THE place.) Sounds like you have everything planned out well.
Spot - 14 Aug 2005 17:46 GMT
If the porch is enclosed why not just install a cat door.  I'm betting they
will come and go as they like to the porch.  I would not however expect them
to stay outside during the winter.  That's just cruel even is the box is
heated.

Celeste

> Hi, everyone!  I have two cats, male and female, both fixed, both 3
> years old, and both delightful parts of our lives.  Over the last year,
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> Joseph
Karen - 14 Aug 2005 19:07 GMT
> If the porch is enclosed why not just install a cat door.  I'm betting they
> will come and go as they like to the porch.  I would not however expect them
> to stay outside during the winter.  That's just cruel even is the box is
> heated.
>
> Celeste

My cats are much less restive once the cool weather sits in. In spring and
part of summer it is the early morning poke you awakes. (I just put up with
it).
Java - 14 Aug 2005 23:32 GMT
Best thing to do is ignore them turn around and go back to sleep. I had that
problem with my Romeo and to him it was just a game.  He had food, water and
a clean litter box. I ignored him two nites in a row, and he stopped his
routine.

Java

> Hi, everyone!  I have two cats, male and female, both fixed, both 3
> years old, and both delightful parts of our lives.  Over the last year,
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> Joseph
helensalisbury@hotmail.com - 15 Aug 2005 02:30 GMT
Cats are nocturnal so the porch is fine, just leave then in the house
during the day when they want to sleep and they can play outside all
night.
helensalisbury@hotmail.com - 15 Aug 2005 02:30 GMT
Cats are nocturnal so the porch is fine, just leave then in the house
during the day when they want to sleep and they can play outside all
night.
IBen Getiner - 15 Aug 2005 04:18 GMT
> Hi, everyone!  I have two cats, male and female, both fixed, both 3
> years old, and both delightful parts of our lives.  Over the last year,
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> Joseph

Why would you feel guilty, Joe...? Cats are animals (even though
sometimes we think they're our kids!). They really don't deserve any
more consideration other that the essentials that you have listed
above. We exile ours to his own room at night. Do you think that HE
gives a rat'z azz if we get any sleep or not? You think HE cares if my
business goes under because I can't remember my daily tasks thanks to a
continual loss of sleep?
Put them out there.. Make sure it's comfortable... And GET SOME SLEEP.
And as far as that guilty feeling thing goes... DUMP IT. It's all from
our wonderful feminist movement (like the cuntz in here.. perfect
example). They try to force you to feeeeeelll things with your heart
when it comes to making the decisions instead of using your friggin'
brain.
That's why God made us MEN, Joe... So we could call the shots without
getting 'all mixed up' by our feelings! He knew that THEY couldn't do
it, so He put it in them to need us to do it for them...
Don't be a feminized male, Joe. It's just like being de-balled. It's so
low and detestably disgusting.

                           IBen
 
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