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Calvin Rice - 05 Aug 2005 15:38 GMT
This is about the cat in the thread, 'fearful mother-to-be'.

I'm beginning to wonder if the cat really is pregnant.  She
has been in a bedroom for 8 days now, and I still haven't
seen her walking around; so I can't see whether her belly
pokes out like a pregnant cat's or not.  The 'owners'
assured me that she looked the way she did shortly before
having her first litter, and I've been taking their word
for it.

The reason I haven't seen the cat walking around is because
she is afraid of me, and always is either settled in the place
in the closet prepared for her, or settled in a window, or
settled under the bed.  Always upright, never lying down,
though settled down on all four legs, not sitting up.  She eats
and uses the litter box when I'm not in the room, and always
goes back to the closet or under the bed if she hears me opening
the door, which can't be done soundlessly.

When looking at her under the bed, she often is facing me, but
doesn't seem to be spread out on either side as I would expect
a pregnant cat to be.  Also, looking down at her from about a
45 degree angle in the closewt, she doesn't appear spread out from
side to side.  But I don't know what to make of this.  She always
is upright, not standing up, but not lying on one side either.
If I saw her lying on one side, I would expect to see her belly
really expanded, and then probably could tell if she is pregnant.

Is there a good web site with a lot of pregnant cat pictures?
This cat is rather small, by the way, not a big mama.

-cr
Snittens - 05 Aug 2005 16:04 GMT
> This is about the cat in the thread, 'fearful mother-to-be'.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> having her first litter, and I've been taking their word
> for it.

Can you get her to the vet?  That would be the only way to know for sure,
and sometimes even the vet has to do an x-ray to make sure.  We had a cat
once at the shelter that the vet was sure was pregnant, she thought she felt
fetuses in there.  Luckily, she decided to do an x-ray and it turns out the
cat was constipated and she was feeling stool.
A pregnant cat near delivery usually has a rounded tummy and enlarged
nipples.  It is hard to tell if you can't see her walking.
So, if you can, take her to the vet.  It would be a good idea anyway.

-Kelly
Calvin Rice - 05 Aug 2005 17:19 GMT
> So, if you can, take her to the vet.  It would be a good idea anyway.

That's what I'm thinking of doing.  The 'owners' vet is not available
until
Monday, and if I can see no more during the weekend to verify that the
cat really is pregnant, I think the owner and I will take the cat to
the vet
Monday.  That probably will mean that even if the cat really is
pregnant
she will be spayed and aborted.  I can't imagine the vet wanting us to
bring the cat back to my place for delivery.  None of this is final,
but if the
cat doesn't produce kittens before Monday morning, I think we will take
it to the vet, and any kittens will be lost.

I've looked for a website with pregnant cat pictures, but haven't found
one yet.

-cr
Snittens - 05 Aug 2005 17:35 GMT
> I've looked for a website with pregnant cat pictures, but haven't found
> one yet.
>
> -cr

I can only imagine what you must be coming up with Googling "pregnant cat
pictures" LOL!!  Maybe some cat health sites will have pictures.

-Kelly
Lorraine - 05 Aug 2005 20:43 GMT
>I've looked for a website with pregnant cat pictures, but haven't found
>one yet.

http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=pregnant+cat
Calvin Rice - 05 Aug 2005 23:49 GMT
> (a URL)

Thanks, this helps.

After 8 days I finally remembered that I have a video camera, not
used since 1998.  So far I've gotten one shot of the cat walking
out from under the bed and eating.  The only thing I could see,
except maybe some heaviness in her belly, was whiteness
around one nipple.  I don't know if that was left over from the
first litter, or a sign of current pregnancy.

Videotaping continues.

-cr
Calvin Rice - 06 Aug 2005 14:50 GMT
> Videotaping continues.

I've seen the cat walking around a couple of more times now, on.
tape.  I think her belly sags more that it pushes out to the sides, but
it does both.  Also, when she lies down on one side, something she
doesn't do when I'm in the room, the bulge in her belly is obvious.

-cr
Rhonda - 06 Aug 2005 05:43 GMT
Actually, the vet will not spay until you tell them to and pay them.

Our stray was very fat and obviously pregnant when we took her in. The
vet said she was due in 1-2 weeks, but she thought sooner rather than later.

She delivered 2 weeks and 1 day later.

Rhonda

> That probably will mean that even if the cat really is
> pregnant
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> cat doesn't produce kittens before Monday morning, I think we will take
> it to the vet, and any kittens will be lost.
Calvin Rice - 06 Aug 2005 14:41 GMT
> Actually, the vet will not spay until you tell them to and pay them.

I changed plans again.  When I said the cat would go to the vet Monday
if no births took place this weekend, I had not yet seen the cat
walking
around.  But now I have seen, by the use of a video camera, that the
cat is pregnant, in my opinion.

It is not my vet, though.  It is the 'owner's' vet, so the owner and
his vet
would be making decisions about the future if the cat goes to the vet,
and I doubt that they would decide to let the cat go home with me
again.

The cat will continue to stay with me, hoping that the births come
soon,
with no trip to the vet until long after the births.  Sorry for the
alarm.

-cr
guynoir - 07 Aug 2005 00:57 GMT
I took my "pregnant" cat to the vet yesterday for abortion, spay,
vaccination, checkup, screening, expected about $200 bill.  Vet inquired
as to the quality of her poop, a symptom of worms.  I said "A little
loose, very stinky."  Vet examines cat, expresses milk from teat
(something I'd tried but failed)  "She's not pregnant, she's nursing."  
That saved me $170 right there, new owner gets to pay for all that.  Had
to go find the kittens, but that was very easy.  Three of them, about 2
weeks old maybe.  

Indicators that cat isn't pregnant:

Belly swells noticibly in 24 hours from milk production, when prevented
from feeding kittens.
Stinky poop:  smells like sour milk.
Express milk from teats.
I found the kittens within 10 feet of where I first saw the cat.
Vet said pregnant cats are much bigger, so swollen teats on a thin cat:
She weighed under 6 lbs.

"Calvin Rice" <oscwr@netscape.net> wrote in news:1123335718.309775.53000
@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

>> Actually, the vet will not spay until you tell them to and pay them.
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> -cr

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guynoir - 07 Aug 2005 03:05 GMT
Unfortunately, when I rescued the kittens I contracted a bad case of kitten
fever.  Now you can all suffer.

http://www.spiretech.com/~guynoir/livestock/kf1.jpg
http://www.spiretech.com/~guynoir/livestock/kf2.jpg
http://www.spiretech.com/~guynoir/livestock/kf3.jpg
http://www.spiretech.com/~guynoir/livestock/kf4.jpg

> I took my "pregnant" cat to the vet yesterday for abortion, spay,
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www.metalinnovations.com

"Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum." - When you have
their full attention in your grip, their hearts and minds will follow.

Trish - 07 Aug 2005 03:19 GMT
> Unfortunately, when I rescued the kittens I contracted a bad case of kitten
> fever.  Now you can all suffer.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> > I took my "pregnant" cat to the vet yesterday for abortion, spay,

Gorgeous kittens, I'm such a sucker for tabbies :)
Calvin Rice - 07 Aug 2005 03:56 GMT
> Gorgeous kittens, I'm such a sucker for tabbies :)

I know kittens have more pointed ears than adults, but
a couple of these kittens, the darker ones, appear to
have especially pointed ears.

-cr
Annie Wxill - 07 Aug 2005 03:59 GMT
> Unfortunately, when I rescued the kittens I contracted a bad case of
> kitten
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> guynoir

Oooooh!
Major kitten fever, indeed.
What a good job that mama cat has done.
Those kittens look so beautiful, healthy and clean.

Annie
-L. - 07 Aug 2005 04:04 GMT
> Unfortunately, when I rescued the kittens I contracted a bad case of kitten
> fever.  Now you can all suffer.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> http://www.spiretech.com/~guynoir/livestock/kf3.jpg
> http://www.spiretech.com/~guynoir/livestock/kf4.jpg

That red baby is going to be a *gorgeous* cat!

-L.
Charlie Wilkes - 07 Aug 2005 13:54 GMT
>Unfortunately, when I rescued the kittens I contracted a bad case of kitten
>fever.  Now you can all suffer.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>http://www.spiretech.com/~guynoir/livestock/kf3.jpg
>http://www.spiretech.com/~guynoir/livestock/kf4.jpg

They're adorable, and they all look healthy.  Now what will you do
with them?  You are on track to have a four-cat household.

Charlie
Candace - 07 Aug 2005 19:12 GMT
> Unfortunately, when I rescued the kittens I contracted a bad case of kitten
> fever.  Now you can all suffer.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> http://www.spiretech.com/~guynoir/livestock/kf3.jpg
> http://www.spiretech.com/~guynoir/livestock/kf4.jpg

OMG, they're darling little pudgy kitties!  I wonder how many you will
keep?  Do you know anyone who might take a kitty?  You'll be pretty
attached to the little critters by the time they can leave their mommy.

Candace
Lesley - 08 Aug 2005 13:17 GMT
The little ginger one is adorable! I want a ginger kitten! (I can hear
Sarrasine saying "But I am not letting you have one! They might eat my
food!")

Sigh.....Serious KF here

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Karen - 07 Aug 2005 20:47 GMT
> Unfortunately, when I rescued the kittens I contracted a bad case of kitten
> fever.  Now you can all suffer.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>> I took my "pregnant" cat to the vet yesterday for abortion, spay,

Ack! My god they are cute. cute cute cute cute cute cute cute cute cute cute

Where did the "pregnant" cat come from?
Karen - 07 Aug 2005 20:49 GMT
>> Unfortunately, when I rescued the kittens I contracted a bad case of kitten
>> fever.  Now you can all suffer.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Where did the "pregnant" cat come from?

Found the original thread. Never mind.
Cheryl - 06 Aug 2005 01:17 GMT
On Fri 05 Aug 2005 10:38:59a, Calvin Rice wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:1123252738.854408.31880
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com):

> I'm beginning to wonder if the cat really is pregnant.  She
> has been in a bedroom for 8 days now, and I still haven't
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> having her first litter, and I've been taking their word
> for it.
<snip>

This reminds me of something that happened this year to someone in
another group who was[1] fostering a pregnant cat. She was told
that the mama-to-be was going to have her litter "any day now".  
LOL Well, nearly two months later she finally had them. I've never
had a pregnant cat, nor fostered one, but I wonder if getting fat
is the first sign even if they have nearly the whole ~63 days left
before giving birth?  That poor woman. She thought we'd thought she
was making it up but we were just waiting for baby pics. :) I don't
know anything about the rescue group she was volunteering with, but
I wonder had they known the kitty was in early stage pregnancy if
they would have aborted the kittens? Dunno.

[1] She ended up keeping the mama and one kitten while the rest of
the litter found foreverhomes.

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