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Elizabeth  Blake - 03 Aug 2005 02:23 GMT
I'm posting this about my sister's cat, Peasy.  Last Thursday my sister took
Peasy to the vet for a regular checkup/shots.  Peasy is an indoor/outdoor
cat so my sister makes sure she gets her vaccinations each year.  My sister
called me up, very upset, about Peasy's behavior since the shot.  I think
she said it was a leukemia shot, but I can't remember.  The vet told her
that it was a new shot they were using now, and that it would be
safer/better etc.

After taking Peasy home and through the rest of the day and into Friday, she
said that Peasy wouldn't eat or drink and just climbed into an
out-of-the-way spot to sleep.  My sister said that Peasy felt really warm to
her, and she called the vet who said to bring her in.  She said the vet gave
Peasy another shot (cortisone?) and told her it would counteract the
vaccination.  Does this mean that Peasy is no longer protected, and will
need to be re-vaccinated?  My sister said she won't let them give another
"new" shot and wants the old one back, because Peasy has never had a
reaction before.

When I spoke with her yesterday, she said that Peasy has been
eating/drinking & using the litterbox normally.  She said that she was
playing, but just doesn't seem to have the spark she used to.  The vet said
that as long as she's back to eating & drinking water and using the box, she
should be fine.

My sister is worried about letting Peasy out now, thinking that she isn't
protected.  My sister's two kids are always leaving doors open, so it's hard
to keep Peasy in.  She pretty much only goes out in the summer.  Once the
weather gets cool, she doesn't like to venture off the deck.  She showed up
on my sister's deck 2 1/2 years ago as a half-grown stray (turns out some
neighborhood people divorced & moved away and left her behind) and is used
to going out, so forcing her to stay inside might not work.

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Liz
PawsForThought - 03 Aug 2005 02:45 GMT
> My sister said that Peasy felt really warm to
> her, and she called the vet who said to bring her in.  She said the vet gave
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> "new" shot and wants the old one back, because Peasy has never had a
> reaction before.

Hi Liz,
No, the cortisone shot won't effect the effectiveness of the vaccine.
It's merely given to counteract the reaction symptoms, and not the
vaccine itself.  New protocols are calling for vaccinations every 3
years instead of yearly.  This is an interesting article on
revaccination:
http://www.caberfeidh.com/Revax.htm

Lauren

See my cats:  http://tinyurl.com/76tg8
-L. - 03 Aug 2005 03:33 GMT
> I'm posting this about my sister's cat, Peasy.  Last Thursday my sister took
> Peasy to the vet for a regular checkup/shots.  Peasy is an indoor/outdoor
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> that it was a new shot they were using now, and that it would be
> safer/better etc.

<snip>

She is still protected.  Next time, have your sister ask for a vaccine
titer (blood test) to see if Peasy really needs a vaccine or not.  Most
cats will keep their immunity for 2-3 years, minimally, some even
longer.  No need to vaccinate unless you really *need* to.

Good luck,
-L.
George Orwell - 03 Aug 2005 09:42 GMT
> She is still protected.  Next time, have your sister ask for a vaccine
> titer (blood test) to see if Peasy really needs a vaccine or not.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Good luck,
> -L.

Lynette M. Wegrich (Glover)
8693 Iroquois Dr.
Tualatin, Oregon, 97062

Husband: William Glover
Son: Jonathan Glover
Karen - 03 Aug 2005 03:36 GMT
> I'm posting this about my sister's cat, Peasy.  Last Thursday my sister took
> Peasy to the vet for a regular checkup/shots.  Peasy is an indoor/outdoor
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> --
> Liz

I would find out for sure just which shot it was. No, I don't believe there
is anything that could "unvaccinate" her. Sugar has reactions to shots and
has behaved like this. One time got a fever so high she had to spend three
days in the clinic. Finally, we were to try ONE more time, this time giving
her an anti-inflamatory shot at the same time. It is the first time she
hasn't reacted so that did the trick. I'm sure that is what they gave Peasy.
It *could* be the new shot, or it could be that Peasy has become sensitive
to shots. It is not uncommon, if so, to give the cat an anti-inflamatory
shot at the same time. I don't believe Sugar's was coritizone but I can't
remember what it was for sure. But I imagine Peasy is protected just fine.
hope she gets her "spark" back soon. It can take like a week sometimes.
Elizabeth  Blake - 03 Aug 2005 05:15 GMT
Thanks for the replies, everyone.  I called my sister and told her what I'd
read and she's very relieved.  She said Peasy is doing much better but isn't
quite 100% yet.  I'll tell her that next year she should discuss with her
vet whether or not Peasy actually needs the shot(s).  My sister is a little
paranoid, because last year her (completely stupid, screwed-up) neighbors'
cat died from feline leukemia.  Her neighbors are the type of people who get
a kitten, never take it to a vet, never get it spayed/neutered, let it
wander around outside on its own as soon as they get it home etc.  Their
cat, Tigger, was a gorgeous tabby and was super sweet.  It was my sister who
noticed that something was wrong with him.  After a couple of not-so-subtle
hints, she finally told her neighbor that Tigger should be taken to a vet
*now*.  He was in bad shape by that time.  So, within a week what do they
do?  Get another little kitten, which was immediately let outside.  My
sister said they took her to the vet once after they got her, but I don't
think she's been spayed and she's got to be at least a year old by now.  So,
my sister is very worried about Peasy catching something.  After Tigger
died, my sister brought Peasy in to the vet for blood tests and she was
given a clean bill of health.  Peasy & Tigger really liked each other

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Liz
Karen - 03 Aug 2005 05:54 GMT
> Thanks for the replies, everyone.  I called my sister and told her what I'd
> read and she's very relieved.  She said Peasy is doing much better but isn't
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> --
> Liz

Boy People really suck :( It's too bad about the neighbors. I hope Peasy
continues to get better.
Snittens - 03 Aug 2005 06:22 GMT
> Thanks for the replies, everyone.  I called my sister and told her what
> I'd read and she's very relieved.  She said Peasy is doing much better but
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> --
> Liz

I can see why she would be worried.  I would be tempted to cat-nap the
neighbor's cat and get her spayed and vaccinated.  The neighbors probably
wouldn't even notice.

-Kelly
-L. - 03 Aug 2005 07:50 GMT
> I can see why she would be worried.  I would be tempted to cat-nap the
> neighbor's cat and get her spayed and vaccinated.  The neighbors probably
> wouldn't even notice.
>
> -Kelly

I TTVNR's all of my neighbor's cats in California.  I don't think any
of them noticed, LOL...luckily they all tested negative.

-L.
-L. - 03 Aug 2005 07:50 GMT
> I can see why she would be worried.  I would be tempted to cat-nap the
> neighbor's cat and get her spayed and vaccinated.  The neighbors probably
> wouldn't even notice.
>
> -Kelly

I TTVNR'd all of my neighbor's cats in California.  I don't think any
of them noticed, LOL...luckily they all tested negative.

-L.
Elizabeth  Blake - 04 Aug 2005 02:00 GMT
> I can see why she would be worried.  I would be tempted to cat-nap the
> neighbor's cat and get her spayed and vaccinated.  The neighbors probably
> wouldn't even notice.
>
> -Kelly

Not only would they not notice, but if they found out they probably wouldn't
think there was any reason why she should have done that.  These people used
to have a small white fluffy dog, Rudy.  Rudy was almost always tied to a
tree in their front yard.  When he wasn't, he was inside locked in a crate.
My niece used to take him off the tree to walk/play with him and if she
brought him to her house, he wouldn't want to leave.  He'd hide under
furniture if she tried to put his leash back on.  One of my other sisters
saw Rudy while visiting, and offered to take him.  The neighbor said that
her kids would be upset, they would miss him etc.  At my sister's next
visit, the neighbor went over and offered Rudy to her.  My sister took him
but couldn't keep him at the time, but she found a home for him with a
co-worker.  She said he's very happy and gets to run around all the time.
My sister Jenny (who lives across from the horrid people) used to give Rudy
baths and cut his fur.  The neighbors never even noticed.

I know their current cat (the unspayed one) is very shy.  My sister said
that she's tried to approach her but she always runs & hides.  She does get
along with Peasy, though.  The cat had her first round of shots last year
but nothing since.

I wish there was a way towns/cities could "tag" families, forbidding them to
own pets.  Not even an ant farm.

--
Liz
Kitkat - 04 Aug 2005 03:32 GMT
Elizabeth Blake wrote:

> I wish there was a way towns/cities could "tag" families, forbidding them to
> own pets.  Not even an ant farm.

Actually, maybe we should force those families to own SEVERAL ANT FARMS.
Maybe a few ROACH farms? I'd be happy to send them my centipedes. Maybe
a few brown recluse spiders...

;)
pam
Steve(JazzHunter) - 04 Aug 2005 14:57 GMT
>Thanks for the replies, everyone.  I called my sister and told her what I'd
>read and she's very relieved.  She said Peasy is doing much better but isn't
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>died, my sister brought Peasy in to the vet for blood tests and she was
>given a clean bill of health.  Peasy & Tigger really liked each other

Modern thinking among Vets is that you do NOT vaccinate cats against
feline Leukemia because of the very high rate of bad side-effects and
possible life-long damage, versus the low chance of exposure, unless
the cat is feral. Some 30% of cats become ill after an FelV shot.  All
the other shots are fine, rabies, Rhinotracheitis etc. but should not
be given more often than every three years.

Many breeders, such as the one from whom I got my Somalis, state in
the sales contract that the cat must not be vaccinated for FelV,
(except as noted below) otherwise the cat will be seized, as he/she
would be if declawing was in the works.

An FelV shot is only given if a feline member of a household is found
to have Feline Leukemia, in which case all the other cats would then
have to be immunized.

I've had to mention this each time I took my cats to my old vet for
shots, no FelV!  The new much better vet knows about this and does not
give the shot unless asked for and it's justified.

.  Steve ..
 
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