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Exaggerated Gingivitis

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Jen M. - 01 Aug 2005 22:33 GMT
Hello All!

I adoped Spot in May from the local humane society.  I/We have no prior
medical history for Spot.  When I adopted Spot and took him for his wellness
check--it was discovered that Spot had very bad teeth--06/22/05 Spot had a
dental and two teeth extracted.  Post surgery Spot did two weeks of
antibiotics.  The vet felt that the conditition would return.  I noticed the
last couple of days Spot's breath being bad and thought it might be the new
cat food--Evo that I switched to.  Today it was considerably worse--and I
looked in his mouth and the gingivitis is back--has the bleeding along the
gum lines--though, as of yet, it doesn't look as bad as it was pre-surgery.

I have a call into the vet--I am wondering if you all would have further
information to guide me in how to procede from here.  On a side note:  my job
ended three weeks ago--and right now my money is going to cover the rent--and
a few essential--along with the cat's food--it costs $36.  I don't have the
money for a vet appt.  I could swing the medicaitons if they were reasonably
low.

The vet suggested that I get a 'senior wellness panel' done for Spot in a
couple of months (said this in June) after he had completely settled down
from the dental procedures, and getting adjusted to the home, and adjusted on
the new food.  When I start working again I will get this done--not an option
for me right now with my finances.

Spot is approx. five years old.  The vet didn't feel that he had stomitus
(spellling-sounds like).

When I looked in Spot's mouth this morning--I didn't see any noticeable
infection--or infected/inflamed gums.  I did see a couple of teeth that
didn't look so white--but with no broken through enamel--dark in coloring.

It does seem like he is still eating well--and I don't notice any weight loss.
Spot's favorite activity is sleeping--not usually active--even when enticed.

The one thing that does concern me in addiction to what is going on with his
mouth--the vet and throughout the treatment record--does state that this is
very painful.  grrrrr  The vet felt that canned food wouldn't be good for him-
-suggested a high-quality dry food.  Also, the vet didn't feel that we should
do the steroid or antibiotic route as a long-term as he stated that
ultimately that would be harder on him than the gingivitis.

Thanks,
Jen

This is what his report looks like:

Species:  Fq
Bree DSH/DMH
Color:  Tabby + White
Sex: Male/neutered
Weight: 13 lbs.

Treatment Record:

--Gingivitis marked throughout mouth
ANS Atropile (not sure of spellling--hard to read handwriting) 0.3 cc/Turb  0.
25 cc SQ
0.35 K/0.35 VIV
Iso/O2 E.T
inj-3 mg. Dex SP/60 mg Clindamycon IM
DN Prophy
(2) Ext: (r) lower Kq
         : (l) upper 1st P-M

loose; gum retractions;gingivitis;painful

SQ fluids:  250 cc NaCl q/BtFtSQ

Rx: (2) Clindadrops: 1.2 cc PO BID z at least 2 weeks/until gone (AB) start
Thursday AM
Cheryl - 01 Aug 2005 23:46 GMT
> I have a call into the vet--I am wondering if you all would have
> further information to guide me in how to procede from here.  On
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> vet appt.  I could swing the medicaitons if they were reasonably
> low.

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What a rough predicament that you've just lost your job. I'm so
sorry. Now this. :(  There is something that pops up here from time
to time when it comes to chronic dental problems. That is the
possibility of Bartonella. Apparently vets don't test for it, even
though it can be responsible for many different ailments - dental
problems being one of them. Good news is that Bartonella can be
cleared up with a certain antibiotic regimen.

I used to have more links in my archives, but when my cat with
gingivitis tested negative, I deleted them.  Worth a shot, though,
especially if your cat has ever been exposed to flea bites.

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_bartonella.html

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Cheryl

"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited
breath."
- W.C. Fields

Jen M. - 02 Aug 2005 20:11 GMT
Hello--thanks for your advice and support ladies.

I just spoke with the vet--have a couple of options:

1. Pursue the steroid and antibiotice route--which could have worse side-
effects, etc.

2. Pull all his teeth--which I am leaning towards--though it feels a bit
harsh to choose this option.

And, the vet stated that I am not re-miss in not doing anything until I can
affor it financially.  The vet(s) doesn't feel that he has any underlying
issues other than a sensitivity to his bacteria.

Thanks,
Jen and Spot

>> I have a call into the vet--I am wondering if you all would have
>> further information to guide me in how to procede from here.  On
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>http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_bartonella.html
Kitkat - 02 Aug 2005 22:29 GMT
> Hello--thanks for your advice and support ladies.
>
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> Thanks,
> Jen and Spot

Just letting you know that I had my Jasper's teeth pulled this summer.
He only has his two front fangs and those tiny teeth in the front...but
no molars! And he is doing FINE. I was really worried about doing it,
but it all worked out. ALso, once you are on your feet financially,
speak to your vet about some kind of payment plan. Usually they are
fairly receptive to that and it might allow you to get it done sooner.
You definitely dont want to let that bacteria fester for TOO long or it
can cause problems much worse than having a few teeth pulled! Good luck!

Pam
Jen M. - 02 Aug 2005 23:06 GMT
Thank you Pam--good to hear.  How is he doing with eating food and such?

Thanks,
Jen

>> Hello--thanks for your advice and support ladies.
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>Pam
Kitkat - 03 Aug 2005 00:33 GMT
> Thank you Pam--good to hear.  How is he doing with eating food and such?
>
> Thanks,
> Jen

heh. He is a porkster. ;)
We only put out wet food for him, but he likes to have a few of my other
kitty's crunchies. Just goes to show that they really dont use those
teeth to chew much anyway! You should also know that my Jasper is also
blind and deaf. He is a real trooper. Cats in general are such troopers.
They amaze me! :)

Pam
Jen M. - 03 Aug 2005 17:33 GMT
Awww I am glad that you two have each other!

Thanks Hon--helped me a lot.

Sincerely,
Jen

>> Thank you Pam--good to hear.  How is he doing with eating food and such?
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