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Aggressive Cat and Kittens - Part 2
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rose ricciuto - 01 Aug 2005 04:42 GMT For those who remember - I was worried about an extremely aggressive 3 yr old cat and introducing 2 kittens to the family. The aggressive neutered male is in terror of the kittens now that they are officially "in the house." He actually makes bleating meows when faced with them. He's still mean to the other adult cats but the kittens have him baffled. The kittens have survived coccidia and upper respiratory infections and are healthy and a joy. Our vet couldn't believe the smallest one survived since he was so ill and only weighed .8 lb when we rescued him. He's up to 3 . 2 lb now.
CatNipped - 01 Aug 2005 04:54 GMT > For those who remember - I was worried about an extremely aggressive 3 > yr old cat and introducing 2 kittens to the family. The aggressive > neutered male is in terror of the kittens now that they are officially > "in the house." He actually makes bleating meows when faced with them. > He's still mean to the other adult cats but the kittens have him > baffled. ROTFLMAOWTIME! Sorry, but kittens *can* inspire terror in the best of us!
> The kittens have survived coccidia and upper respiratory infections and > are healthy and a joy. > Our vet couldn't believe the smallest one survived since he was so ill > and only weighed .8 lb when we rescued him. He's up to 3 . 2 lb now. I'm *SO* glad they're doing well!
Hugs,
CatNipped
Snittens - 01 Aug 2005 06:18 GMT > For those who remember - I was worried about an extremely aggressive 3 > yr old cat and introducing 2 kittens to the family. The aggressive [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Our vet couldn't believe the smallest one survived since he was so ill > and only weighed .8 lb when we rescued him. He's up to 3 . 2 lb now. When I was fostering kittens, my alpha-ish male would be totally in fear of the kittens when I let them out of their room. He would hiss, growl, and slink away. Glad to hear they are doing well!
-Kelly
rose ricciuto - 01 Aug 2005 15:50 GMT Thanks for all the good wishes. Joshua and Peanut are safe forever!!
Arjun Ray - 02 Aug 2005 01:16 GMT | When I was fostering kittens, my alpha-ish male would be totally in | fear of the kittens when I let them out of their room. He would hiss, | growl, and slink away. And the kittens didn't chase and pester him?
Scruffy hissed now and then for a couple of days before accepting Phoenix. Phoenix was relentless anyway. They got along famously after that.
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1060751&uid=514878
Later, Scruffy didn't care for Calvin and Katrina, but they had other cats to bug, so they stayed out of Scruffy's way, and peace prevailed.
Snittens - 02 Aug 2005 03:33 GMT > | When I was fostering kittens, my alpha-ish male would be totally in > | fear of the kittens when I let them out of their room. He would hiss, > | growl, and slink away. > > And the kittens didn't chase and pester him? Oh yeah, they would. Most of the time the kittens were oblivious to the fact that Bartleby was hissing at them and would chase after him thinking it was all a big game. He would reluctantly put up with them after a couple days of this.
> Scruffy hissed now and then for a couple of days before accepting > Phoenix. Phoenix was relentless anyway. They got along famously [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Later, Scruffy didn't care for Calvin and Katrina, but they had other > cats to bug, so they stayed out of Scruffy's way, and peace prevailed. Cute picture!
-Kelly
Arjun Ray - 02 Aug 2005 04:33 GMT | > And the kittens didn't chase and pester him? | | Oh yeah, they would. Most of the time the kittens were oblivious to | the fact that Bartleby was hissing at them and would chase after him | thinking it was all a big game. He would reluctantly put up with them | after a couple days of this. That's the way it often pans out. Big bad-a.s alpha-male, terror of cats who know fear, surrenders meekly to the onslaught of kittens, who know none.
| > http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1060751&uid=514878
| Cute picture! Thanks. Plenty more here: http://www.picturetrail.com/aray/
Kitkat - 02 Aug 2005 06:41 GMT > | When I was fostering kittens, my alpha-ish male would be totally in > | fear of the kittens when I let them out of their room. He would hiss, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > cats to bug, so they stayed out of Scruffy's way, and peace prevailed. > http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1060751&uid=514878
this picture RULES!!! the expression on Scruffy's face...priceless! :D
pam, cracking up looking at scruffy and phoenix
Arjun Ray - 03 Aug 2005 01:19 GMT | http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1060751&uid=514878 | | this picture RULES!!! the expression on Scruffy's face...priceless! :D Oops, you had the same problem as Karen a couple of months back. It isn't easy to get URLs for individual pictures in a "framed" site. Did you mean this one?
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?&p=3&uid=514878&gid=1060751&imgid=19351489
You can view just the thumbnails here: http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=1&gid=1060751&uid=514878
(Opera users can get here by right-clicking on Frame -> Maximize, and Firefox users by This Frame -> Show Frame in a New Tab. IE users will have to manually change the URL from p=999 to p=1.)
URLs for individual pictures are easier to pick off from here.
Kitkat - 03 Aug 2005 02:36 GMT > Did you mean this one? > > http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?&p=3&uid=514878&gid=1060751&imgid=19351489 Yes. That is THE one! Awesome.
Also, I spent quite a bit of time last night looking at ALL of your pictures. I cried when I was looking at the album of Scruffy not doing so well. Your cats are all beautiful. Thanks for doing all that you do for cats.
Pam
Arjun Ray - 03 Aug 2005 02:52 GMT | > Did you mean this one? | > | > http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?&p=3&uid=514878&gid=1060751&imgid=19351489 | | Yes. That is THE one! Awesome. I like it too. The other one I like is the two of napping on the newspapers (my not so bright idea on recycling day.)
My hard drive crashed in mid July, during Scruffy's last days. A total loss, according to the data recovery service I sent the drive to. So, I lost a whole bunch of pictures, especially others like this one (where Scruffy would go find where Phoenix was napping and join him.) Another one was a classic, three cats jammed together on my chair.
| Also, I spent quite a bit of time last night looking at ALL of your | pictures. I cried when I was looking at the album of Scruffy not doing | so well. That album is unfinished. This last weekend was one year since. I looked at the pictures again, and started cropping some to put up. I have another six days worth to go.
| Your cats are all beautiful. Thanks! I'm fostering a cat now, and it's all but certain that I'll keep him, bringing me back up to four. He's an old toothless stray we trapped along with the ferals during a TNR project. His name is Hugo. Pictures soon.
Kitkat - 03 Aug 2005 03:08 GMT > | > Did you mean this one? > | > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Pictures soon. > I may have missed this...I take it that Scruffy is now over the RB?
I have a toothless furfriend myself. All he has left are his front fangs. Combine that with being blind and deaf...and wow! But he rules. I mean, he really is the awesomest. I've posted links to many pix of him before but I am not sure if you were around to see them. Here he is just in case! :)
http://public.fotki.com/kitkatluna/miscellaneous/jasper_dudley/dscf0007.html
:) Pam
Arjun Ray - 03 Aug 2005 03:25 GMT | I may have missed this...I take it that Scruffy is now over the RB? Yes, July 29 2004. http://tinyurl.com/7j7u3
| I have a toothless furfriend myself. All he has left are his front | fangs. That's still something. All four of Hugo's canines were broken off at the gumline. I had a dental done, and the two lower ones were taken out completely.
| Combine that with being blind and deaf...and wow! But he rules. I | mean, he really is the awesomest. I've posted links to many pix of him | before but I am not sure if you were around to see them. Here he is just | in case! :) | | http://public.fotki.com/kitkatluna/miscellaneous/jasper_dudley/dscf0007.html How old is he? Being deaf must be especially tough for him. Some blind cats are amazing in the ways they cope (e.g, MaryL's Duffy) but at least they can hear. What special precautions do you take for him?
Kitkat - 03 Aug 2005 04:07 GMT > | I may have missed this...I take it that Scruffy is now over the RB? > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > blind cats are amazing in the ways they cope (e.g, MaryL's Duffy) but > at least they can hear. What special precautions do you take for him? He is going on 13 we believe. (If not 13, then 14...vet records are unclear) Even being deaf, his coping abilities amaze me. He just has an internal map of our home and he manages to get around, find his food, find the litter box and find places to sleep, including our bed. We don't really take many extra precautions. Of course, we try to keep things in their place, but just recently, we got some new living room furniture and I know it screwed up his little internal map. I felt terrible for him, but he is getting there. We also do things like tap the floor and make extra noise so he knows we are there. Mostly we just give him as much love as we can. He had a bad bout with pancreatitis in the winter as well. He is such a little fighter and despite all of the hardships he has faced, seems to be content and very, very loving. We have only had him just about a year now. His mommy was an old lady who died and she was a friend of the family, so we took him. And we love him dearly. :)
Pam
Snittens - 03 Aug 2005 06:04 GMT > Also, I spent quite a bit of time last night looking at ALL of your > pictures. I cried when I was looking at the album of Scruffy not doing so > well. Your cats are all beautiful. Thanks for doing all that you do for > cats. > > Pam I cried about Pumpkin. :*( I really need to organize my cat pics. I was looking for a picture the other day and ran across a ton of foster kitten pictures. I tried to take pics of all the fosters I had, but lost track sometimes.
-Kelly
Kitkat - 03 Aug 2005 06:17 GMT >>Also, I spent quite a bit of time last night looking at ALL of your >>pictures. I cried when I was looking at the album of Scruffy not doing so [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I cried about Pumpkin. :*( Pumpkin definitely hit close to home for me...ya know...the whole blind, deaf thing. Gosh, poor kitties.
> I really need to organize my cat pics. I was looking for a picture the > other day and ran across a ton of foster kitten pictures. I tried to take > pics of all the fosters I had, but lost track sometimes. I have so many pix of Jasper and Luna (way more of Luna since Ive had her for 7 yrs) I dont think I could organize them. hehe. :)
Pam
Arjun Ray - 04 Aug 2005 07:16 GMT | > I cried about Pumpkin. :*( | | Pumpkin definitely hit close to home for me...ya know...the whole | blind, deaf thing. Gosh, poor kitties. Yes, Pumpkin was a tragic case. We also lost a kitten named Red the same week, we suspect from the same bug. It was our only serious mistake in the Rikers project (we allowed the ferals from a TNR project in the Bronx to be transported to Rikers and held there for the S/N day. Two cats from that group also succumbed to something: the outward signs were pneumoniac, but one vet suspected calici.)
Pumpkin himself was also most likely the statistical exception to our generally clean record on the project. As far as we know, he walked into a trap on his own steam. His problems surfaced after the neutering. Maybe they screwed up the anaesthesia. Maybe he was susceptible to begin with. Who knows. Everything was strange about him, including the fact that he was the only classic orange tabby we caught during the entire project.
Cheryl - 02 Aug 2005 00:53 GMT > For those who remember - I was worried about an extremely > aggressive 3 yr old cat and introducing 2 kittens to the family. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > so ill and only weighed .8 lb when we rescued him. He's up to 3 > . 2 lb now. Great news! I suspect that in no time, your 3 year old is going to be carrying on and playing with the kittens! :) Hopefully that will curb his aggression to the others, but I wouldn't count on it. Maybe just some distraction like what's happened here. The male young one of mine (going on a year now - tiny kittens when I took them in last Nov) is now bigger than him and he will sometimes put himself between the aggressor and his main target; sort of a distraction for a while. :)
 Signature Cheryl
"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields
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