Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / September 2003
Neutering and its effects
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Rachel - 27 Sep 2003 12:20 GMT Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, everything went great and he has recovered extremely well from his "ordeal". My question is how long is it usually before you might see a difference in the cats personality? I think there are some changes already such as he doesn't seem to do the mock spraying thing (he hadn't started spraying but would back up and pretend to) as much, also I think he seems a little calmer. I am hoping that he becomes a little more affectionate with time as he matures coupled with the neutering.
Thanks in advance.
Rachel
PawsForThought - 27 Sep 2003 13:19 GMT >From: "Rachel" nospam@nospam.com
>My question is >how long is it usually before you might see a difference in the cats [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >that he becomes a little more affectionate with time as he matures coupled >with the neutering. My boy was neutered at 5 1/2 months. I honestly don't recall seeing a noticeable personality change in him. He's now 3 1/2 years old and he's still extremely active. He has become a lap cat though. I think it's supposed to take a few weeks until their hormones level out, so to speak. Both of my cats shake their tails but have never sprayed.
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Philip ? - 27 Sep 2003 16:28 GMT In news:20030927081939.13107.00000230@mb-m28.aol.com, PawsForThought <darnit7@aol.comnolitter> being of bellicose mind posted:
> > From: "Rachel" nospam@nospam.com > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Lauren Ditto. With "Rusty" (abandoned tabby), I waited until he first started that unmistakable yowling to get outside and mate. That was at age 8-9 months. After his "ordeal" he kept looking at me oddly for a couple of months. New behavior. He got over it and has been a great house cat ever since. But he does do the stressed tail shaking thing once in a while though no urine has ever been expressed. No spraying in the house ever with him in 13 1/2 yrs. Urinating is just a function... done in the litter box. --
~~Philip
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MaryL - 27 Sep 2003 14:42 GMT > Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, everything went > great and he has recovered extremely well from his "ordeal". My question is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Rachel I never noticed any personality change at all after my cats were spayed or neutered. As you said, your cat may become more affectionate with time -- but this is not something to expect immediately, and it it will vary greatly with different cats. What you describe as "mock spraying" may be what many call "the happy shake." If so, your cat is not trying to spray. That, too, varies with different cats.
MaryL (take out the litter to reply)
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~*SooZy*~ - 27 Sep 2003 17:05 GMT > > Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, everything went > > great and he has recovered extremely well from his "ordeal". My question [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > MaryL me neither in any of mine, But I think if you had cat used for stud and then you had him neutered you would notice the change in him, because he would be desperate for a female anymore so would become calmer.
Philip ? - 27 Sep 2003 17:39 GMT In news:bl4cg2$jlo$1@sparta.btinternet.com, ~*SooZy*~ <soozyqureshi@cathotmail.com> being of bellicose mind posted:
> > > Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, > > > everything went great and he has recovered extremely well from [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > him, because he would be desperate for a female anymore so would > become calmer. Hahahhaha. Not so with a seal point Siamese I had long ago. Had him neutered at 3yrs (don't ask why.... wife thing) and the only thing that changed was his "focus" Anything that was hairy became the object of his affections. This included blankets with fringe on the ends, parkas with furry collars, even throw pillows with fringe/tassels. It got pretty funny for awhile there! Then he'd get an erection and go to licking himself in front of guests. The wife really had a problem with this behavior. LOL --
~~Philip
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~*SooZy*~ - 27 Sep 2003 22:58 GMT > In news:bl4cg2$jlo$1@sparta.btinternet.com, > ~*SooZy*~ <soozyqureshi@cathotmail.com> being of bellicose mind [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > ~~Philip awww bless him LOL
MaryL - 27 Sep 2003 17:49 GMT > > > Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, everything > went [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > you had him neutered you would notice the change in him, because he would be > desperate for a female anymore so would become calmer. That is quite possible. I didn't think of that because all of mine were neutered at a few months of age. All have been wonderfully affectionate cats.
MaryL
~*SooZy*~ - 27 Sep 2003 23:00 GMT > > > > Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, everything > > went [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > MaryL well I am only guessing :-) I know getting dogs neutered can calm them down, not sure with cats though!
Philip ? - 27 Sep 2003 16:28 GMT > Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, > everything went great and he has recovered extremely well from his [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Rachel What's a mock? --
~~Philip
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Rachel - 27 Sep 2003 17:36 GMT >> Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, >> everything went great and he has recovered extremely well from his [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > What's a mock? It can mean several things from contempt and ridicule to imitation or practice purposes. I was meaning it in an imitation kind of way.
~*SooZy*~ - 27 Sep 2003 17:43 GMT > > Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, > > everything went great and he has recovered extremely well from his [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > ~~Philip could it be standing stamping his feet, bottom up against the wall, tail shaking with no spray coming out ;-)
Philip ? - 28 Sep 2003 04:36 GMT In news:bl4emt$sfj$1@hercules.btinternet.com, ~*SooZy*~ <soozyqureshi@cathotmail.com> being of bellicose mind posted:
> > > Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, > > > everything went great and he has recovered extremely well from [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > could it be standing stamping his feet, bottom up against the > wall, tail shaking with no spray coming out ;-) I was joking when I asked what a "mock" was.
Rusty does that arched back, rubbing a leg or furniture, and then stick his tail straight up and pretend he's about to spray ... all with a silly smirk on his puss. --
~~Philip
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Sandra Loosemore - 27 Sep 2003 17:59 GMT > Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, everything went > great and he has recovered extremely well from his "ordeal". My question is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > that he becomes a little more affectionate with time as he matures coupled > with the neutering. When I had my guy Nerf "fixed" (he was also about 5 months), I didn't really notice any change in his personality or behavior towards me, but what I did see was an immediate shift in his relationship with my older cat Slinky (a spayed female). Pre-neutering, Nerf was obviously trying to take over as top cat in my household, and Slinky was acting rather intimidated by him. But as soon as I brought Nerf home from the vet after being neutered, I noticed that Slinky started re-asserting herself again and letting Nerf know that she was still the #1 cat.
-Sandra
Elizabeth Blake - 27 Sep 2003 18:16 GMT > Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, everything went > great and he has recovered extremely well from his "ordeal". My question is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > that he becomes a little more affectionate with time as he matures coupled > with the neutering. My cat Otto was neutered between 6-7 months. I found him on the street, so I wasn't sure of his exact age. At the first vet visit she guessed him to be around 6 months old, and he was neutered a few weeks later. He was super affectionate when I found him and he stayed that way after the operation. His personality didn't seem to change at all. He's now 4 years old, and he does like to jump on Tiger, who is a 13 year old spayed female. To me it looks sexual - he jumps on her, straddling her back, and bites her neck. Tiger does not appreciate this and usually wriggles out from under him in a matter of seconds. I never noticed him doing that before he was neutered, but in those first few weeks Tiger pretty much hid anyway.
Liz
m. L. Briggs - 27 Sep 2003 21:41 GMT >> Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, everything went >> great and he has recovered extremely well from his "ordeal". My question [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >Liz He still has the urge, but not the ability.
Priscilla Ballou - 27 Sep 2003 22:19 GMT > >My cat Otto was neutered between 6-7 months. I found him on the street, so > >I wasn't sure of his exact age. At the first vet visit she guessed him to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > He still has the urge, but not the ability. That's also a dominance posture. Sebbie does it to Benjie all the time.
Priscilla
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Ollie Burger - 27 Sep 2003 23:35 GMT > > Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, everything went > > great and he has recovered extremely well from his "ordeal". My question [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Liz I've also noticed this 'mounting' behavior between neutered males as well... since "gay cat" is likely not the answer, I assumed this behavior to be simply a cat's way of expressing dominance.
In regards to personality changes, I have a 4 yr old longhair golden tabby male named Flippy who was the most paranoid cat I have ever known. As a kitten he'd avoid his litter-mates, cower in a corner, or scuttle into a hiding place with even the slightest provocation. He was 2 yrs old before he was neutered and had his shots (only after the Vet gave me a tranquilizer to give to him).
After his ordeal, he became quite affectionate and friendly -- he's still a little bit skitterish though, but nothing like before.
OB
Sandra Loosemore - 28 Sep 2003 00:43 GMT > I've also noticed this 'mounting' behavior between > neutered males as well... since "gay cat" is likely > not the answer, I assumed this behavior to be > simply a cat's way of expressing dominance. My guy Nerf tries to do this to Slinky once in a while, but on the rare occasions when he actually manages to get her pinned down, he seems to think that the natural thing to do is just give her ears a thorough washing! Which Slinky utterly hates, of course. :-P
-Sandra
Priscilla Ballou - 28 Sep 2003 00:58 GMT > > I've also noticed this 'mounting' behavior between > > neutered males as well... since "gay cat" is likely [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > seems to think that the natural thing to do is just give her ears a > thorough washing! Which Slinky utterly hates, of course. :-P With my cats, a friendly ear-washing often turns into a game of "bite your ear" and a fun tussle/chase.
BTW, there are numerous species in which one can observe homosexual behavior. I don't know if cats are among them. Dominance mounting is not, however, sexual except in its symbolism.
Priscilla
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Ollie Burger - 28 Sep 2003 21:39 GMT > > I've also noticed this 'mounting' behavior between > > neutered males as well... since "gay cat" is likely [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Sandra That's interesting... I have been under the impression that all cats like to have their ears/face washed... with 10 cats, that's a normal event around here, of course... :)
OB
Ollie Burger - 28 Sep 2003 21:40 GMT > > I've also noticed this 'mounting' behavior between > > neutered males as well... since "gay cat" is likely [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Sandra That's interesting... I have been under the impression that all cats like to have their ears/face washed... with 10 cats, that's a normal event around here, of course... :)
OB
Ollie Burger - 28 Sep 2003 21:41 GMT > > I've also noticed this 'mounting' behavior between > > neutered males as well... since "gay cat" is likely [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Sandra That's interesting... I have been under the impression that all cats like to have their ears/face washed... with 10 cats, that's a normal event around here, of course... :)
OB
Philip ? - 28 Sep 2003 04:36 GMT > > My cat Otto was neutered between 6-7 months. I found him on the > > street, so I wasn't sure of his exact age. At the first vet [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >snip< >OB That's all the world needs now is fudge packing felines.
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~~Philip
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William Hamblen - 28 Sep 2003 02:59 GMT > Hi, I had my five month old kitten neutered last Tuesday, everything went > great and he has recovered extremely well from his "ordeal". My question is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > that he becomes a little more affectionate with time as he matures coupled > with the neutering. I think neutering doesn't affect personality that much. I've had intact toms that were affectionate and castrated toms that were aloof. The main thing is that they don't roam and fight as much if they are indoor/ outdoor cats or spray as much if they are indoor cats. The toms I've had that had free access to the outdoors never sprayed in the house, intact or not. The urine from a castrated tom doesn't smell as bad as that from an intact tom, so even when they do spray it isn't quite as awful.
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