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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2006is it the heat?
my cat Chicky has had diarhea for the last few days and vomited a couple times. she seems healthy otherwise aside from sleeping a bit more. when she is awake she is active. we are just finishing with some terrible heat and humidity. could this be the problem? also when she does go to the bathroom she has not done it in her litterbox, but on the floor by her box or somewhere else. anyone know why that might be? >my cat Chicky has had diarhea for the last few days and vomited a couple >times. she seems healthy otherwise aside from sleeping a bit more. when she >is awake she is active. we are just finishing with some terrible heat and >humidity. could this be the problem? also when she does go to the bathroom >she has not done it in her litterbox, but on the floor by her box or >somewhere else. anyone know why that might be? animals, like people, can't get severely dehyrdated from heat and diarrhea. How about taking her to the VET?  SignatureJanet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album she is drinking plenty so i ruled out dehydration. I cant get her to the vet till early next week and am hoping she is better by then anyways. the heat has let so i'll see how she is the rest of the week. was wondering if anybody elses cat reacts to the heat this way. thanks for answering me. >she is drinking plenty so i ruled out dehydration. I cant get her to the vet >till early next week and am hoping she is better by then anyways. the heat >has let so i'll see how she is the rest of the week. was wondering if anybody >elses cat reacts to the heat this way. >thanks for answering me. I hope she survives your lack of caring. Diarrhea is not normal and depletes the body of more than fluid. If you can say your cat is "drinking plenty", there's undoubtedly something wrong - most people don't see their cats drinking at all or rarely. Why can't you get her to the vet until early next week? Hope she lives that long..... SignatureJanet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album I have obviously been mistaken about the "type" of people who post here. If you read my original post; she is playful and active, and otherwise normal. It really is none of your business why i cant get her to the vet till next week. But it is due to a death in the family which requires alot of company, visitation, the funeral, that sort of thing and my vets hours are limited. I will not be returning to this site again. I did not expect people to be so rude and uncaring. I posted on another site and they were very helpful, someone mentioned any new food, treats etc. I did buy her new treats (organic) a week ago and discovered that my husband has opened them and been giving them to her a bed time. I am now pretty sure that is the problem. I will discontinue them and see how she is. Good bye and good riddance! >I have obviously been mistaken about the "type" of people who post here. If >you read my original post; she is playful and active, and otherwise normal. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >discontinue them and see how she is. >Good bye and good riddance! HORK! It's not easy to live joyful when you have to share a planet with Janet Boss, is it? I have had the same experience. Janet is a dog-trainer whose philosophy is to intimidate dogs who misbehave. She has validated a lot of toxic thinking in the dog group with unhappy results for dogs and their owners. She lives in Baltimore and is very much like some of the characters in early John Waters movies. Think Edith Massey as Cuddles in "Pink Flamingos," only a lot meaner. Charlie > HORK! > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Charlie>>> I don't agree with Janet's training methods either but in this case she is right , the cat really should see a vet. Alison > I don't agree with Janet's training methods either but in this case >she is right , the cat really should see a vet. > Alison and actually Alison, I'm betting we agree more than you think! But yes, the cat needs to see the vet asap. SignatureJanet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album > > I don't agree with Janet's training methods either but in this case > >she is right , the cat really should see a vet. > > Alison > > and actually Alison, I'm betting we agree more than you think!>> Maybe, but pigs will fly before I ever use a choke collar:) Alison >It's not easy to live joyful when you have to share a planet with >Janet Boss, is it? I have had the same experience. Oh Charlie - you haven't experienced me in the least. >Janet is a dog-trainer whose philosophy is to intimidate dogs who >misbehave. She has validated a lot of toxic thinking in the dog group >with unhappy results for dogs and their owners. LOL. If you only knew. >She lives in Baltimore and is very much like some of the characters in >early John Waters movies. Think Edith Massey as Cuddles in "Pink >Flamingos," only a lot meaner. Now - THAT is amusing. Love John Waters of course...... SignatureJanet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album >>It's not easy to live joyful when you have to share a planet with >>Janet Boss, is it? I have had the same experience. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >LOL. If you only knew. I do know. I've made a study of your advice. You have recommended that people deal with furniture guarding by leashing the dog and yanking it onto the floor when it growls. That is what published experts consider to be a BAD approach that will re-enforce the undesirable behavior. We have had that discussion, right? And what about Teena, the snappish ESS? The woman who owned Teena has trouble controlling her temper, and she lost her temper with the dog. You egged her on, recommending daily repetitions of the trigger stimulus with no modification in handling technique. It was only a few more weeks before the dog was euthenized. All of this is archived. But maybe Jerry finally got through to you and now you are a kinder and gentler Janet. Charlie >We have had that discussion, >right? I don 't think you and I have had a "discussion". We may have posted in the same thread, but that ain' the same. SignatureJanet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album >>We have had that discussion, >>right? > >I don 't think you and I have had a "discussion". We may have posted >in the same thread, but that ain' the same. Let me put it this way, Janet: we have made our views known to one another. But this is not the dog group. I see you are putting a great deal of effort into your cat's health issues, giving her prozac and what have you so she won't piss you out of house and home. I'm not surprised that a cat living with you needs prozac, but I commend your diligence even so. Charlie > Let me put it this way, Janet: we have made our views known to one > another. But this is not the dog group. I see you are putting a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Charlie>>> Charlie, It's more than likely that Carey's behaviour problems have a physical cause that the vets haven't properly diagnosed yet. Janet must have spent thousands of dollars on him and has tremendous patience putting up with all the peeing etc. so I commend her diligence too. Alison > Charlie, > It's more than likely that Carey's behaviour problems have a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >all the peeing etc. so I commend her diligence too. > Alison Thanks Alison, it's been rough. She'll be 12 tomorrow. I think she's already been getting her birthday presents! I started back on the Prozac for her on Tuesday, and I know i will take a bit to kick in. We had a rough late afternoon yesterday. Big t-storm, so Lucy was pacing and not happy. Franklin barked at something, then grabbed a squeaky toy and Carey lost it on him and Lucy, then Skip. I tossed her in a room for a bit to cool down and tried letting her out only to have the same reaction. We had that 3 times in 45 minutes, so she got to stay in there quite a bit longer later on. She was fine the rest of the evening, but sucked on Franklin at bedtime again, he left and she took over his new dog bed! Maybe we all treat her a little too nicely - nobody tells her off (except I tell her "do not hiss at ME" when I'm pulling her off poor Skipjack). Yes, thousands of dollars at this point. Lot's of frustration. But we love her anyway. And my MIL arrives Saturday, for a week. She adores her and vice versa, so hopefully we'll have some quiet and no peeing (which has continued to be ok!). Having a party on Saturday, and although the guests will mostly be outside (pool), Carey and Skipjack will be closed in a bedroom for the duration, just to keep things calm and easy for everyone. Why add stress? SignatureJanet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album >> Charlie, >> It's more than likely that Carey's behaviour problems have a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >too nicely - nobody tells her off (except I tell her "do not hiss at >ME" when I'm pulling her off poor Skipjack). This is what drives me nuts. No, you're not treating the cat too nicely. You don't treat anything too nicely. Telling her off will accomplish nothing positive and might make the problem worse. Maybe she needs to be kept away from the other animals all or most of the time. Charlie >Yes, thousands of dollars at this point. Lot's of frustration. But >we love her anyway. And my MIL arrives Saturday, for a week. She [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >duration, just to keep things calm and easy for everyone. Why add >stress? >This is what drives me nuts. No, you're not treating the cat too >nicely. You don't treat anything too nicely. You have no idea how I treat animals. More of them are alive because of my influence, than would be in a long, long time. >Telling her off will accomplish nothing positive and might make the >problem worse. I'm not "telling her off", I'm telling her to knock it off as I carry her to her room. >Maybe she needs to be kept away from the other animals all or most of >the time. She's curled up sleeping with Skip today, as she was most of yesterday. When she's not curled up with him, it's Franklin. She obviously enjoys that quite a bit, why would I take enjoyment away from her for a few episodes now and then? You're silly. SignatureJanet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album >>This is what drives me nuts. No, you're not treating the cat too >>nicely. You don't treat anything too nicely. > >You have no idea how I treat animals. More of them are alive because >of my influence, than would be in a long, long time. ??? You're laying into the bottle kind of early, aren't you? >>Telling her off will accomplish nothing positive and might make the >>problem worse. > >I'm not "telling her off", I'm telling her to knock it off as I carry >her to her room. Whatever. It's for your benefit, not hers. >>Maybe she needs to be kept away from the other animals all or most of >>the time. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >She obviously enjoys that quite a bit, why would I take enjoyment away >from her for a few episodes now and then? You're silly. It was just a thought. You know the situation. I'd say you're handling it about right -- when there is a problem, remove the aggressive animal from the mix. The other animals seem to be handling this surly old cat just fine. Prozac will probably help, too. Charlie >>This is what drives me nuts. No, you're not treating the cat too >>nicely. You don't treat anything too nicely. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >She obviously enjoys that quite a bit, why would I take enjoyment away >from her for a few episodes now and then? You're silly. Janet you should really listen to Charlie his method of starving the offending dog for several days is well known around here, If the starvation doesn't work you simply kill the animal. Thats the kind of solid thinking that comes from him. By the way I don't condone yanking the animal so hard that you throw him off his feet but a good sharp snap on the chain with a stout no is a good way to train a dog especially for walking at a pace with you. Brad Lifes journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting......." HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" > Telling her off will accomplish nothing positive and might make the > problem worse.>>>> Very good point . I agree very much with you here though I think Janet was right to remove Carey from the situation, to let her calm down and to protect the other pets. Alison > On > > Thanks Alison, it's been rough. She'll be 12 tomorrow. I think she's [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > too nicely - nobody tells her off (except I tell her "do not hiss at > ME" when I'm pulling her off poor Skipjack). >..>> The pool party sounds fun, the only pool we have in our garden is a paddling pool for Dibs<G> Some cats have a low tolerence threshhold and they can't cope with too much stimualtion. She was in a tense situation with the stress building up and the squeaky toy was the trigger that set her off. I don't think her behaviour was odd, it's understandable and I think other cats could have reacted like that too. Giving a cat time out doesn't have to be a punishment. some cats prefer to spend some time on their own, the same as we do. It's best to be vigilant and not let the situation deteriorate to the point where the cat attacks, try to anticipate and seperate before it happens, though that can be easier said than done. Alison >> Let me put it this way, Janet: we have made our views known to one >> another. But this is not the dog group. I see you are putting a [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >all the peeing etc. so I commend her diligence too. > Alison I can see she is doing her utmost. I was being a smartass. Charlie > I have obviously been mistaken about the "type" of people who post here. If > you read my original post; she is playful and active, and otherwise normal. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > discontinue them and see how she is. > Good bye and good riddance! WEll you probably won't read this, but my boy was playful and active too. Until the day he couldn't hide stomach cancer any longer. Sorry, if that sounds harsh, but we are just thinking of your kitty. > I have obviously been mistaken about the "type" of people who post here. > If [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > discontinue them and see how she is. > Good bye and good riddance! I'm sorry that you found Janet's response to be out of line. It was direct, but she meant it that way (I'm assuming) to get you to realize how serious diarrhea, vomiting, and dehydration can be. I had a terminally ill cat with chronic diarrhea. I had her on subcutaneous fluids, and even that wasn't enough to keep her hydrated at times. Everything she took in went right back out, and she was in and out of stays at the vet's, hooked up to an IV to get hydrated. I realize you are dealing with a death in the family, but this is something that does require immediate attention. I am not a vet, but this sounds a little more serious than some new treats that are bothering her. Yes, it could be the heat, especially if she goes outside or you do not have AC. Please try to get her to the vet ASAP. If you can't take her, can you get a friend to do it? -Kelly >I'm sorry that you found Janet's response to be out of line. It was direct, >but she meant it that way (I'm assuming) to get you to realize how serious >diarrhea, vomiting, and dehydration can be. yup - it can kil a cat really quickly. It;s very serious and the OP doesn't want to hear that, she wants validation that it's "the heat". I hope the cat makes it...... SignatureJanet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album I'm glad you seem to have found the problem for the runs, my cat has had diarhea lately and threw up last nigh. I have been feeding her the same canned food, only a couple of tablespoons in the evening, for the last couple of years, stopped the canned food, the diarhea stopped, started the canned food it came back. We also have been experiencing high heat and humidity. Does anyone know why she would all of a sudden have an intollerance for the canned food? I even tried a better brand and this just made it worse? Thanks, Meggy >I have obviously been mistaken about the "type" of people who post here. If >you read my original post; she is playful and active, and otherwise normal. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >discontinue them and see how she is. >Good bye and good riddance! http://doginfolinks.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/ > she is drinking plenty so i ruled out dehydration. I cant get her to the vet > till early next week and am hoping she is better by then anyways. the heat > has let so i'll see how she is the rest of the week. was wondering if anybody > elses cat reacts to the heat this way. > thanks for answering me.>>. I really wouldn't leave it this long, it could be serious. Just because an animal drinks doesn't mean to say it couldn't be dehydrated, she'll be losing fluid through the diarrhoea and sickness Only a vet can tell you what's wrong with your cat. We don't have heat waves in the UK very often but when we do, my cat has never had diarrhoea. Alison As for your initial question... It could be something as simple as worms. Or something much more serious. Get her to the vet :) Sooner than later. |
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