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Trish - 17 Jul 2005 16:44 GMT
Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of people who
claim to have taken such interesting courses in school, etc, are so damn
boring here.  And moan about not having a job or a minimum wage job is all
they claim they can get.

If they were as highly educated as they claim to be then they'd have a
better job and could post more about life than their monotonous boring
drivel.
whitershadeofpale - 17 Jul 2005 17:03 GMT
> Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of people who
> claim to have taken such interesting courses in school, etc, are so damn
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> better job and could post more about life than their monotonous boring
> drivel.

AMEN SISTER!
Mary - 17 Jul 2005 17:05 GMT
> Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of people who
> claim to have taken such interesting courses in school, etc, are so damn
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> better job and could post more about life than their monotonous boring
> drivel.

Purrs for all of our unemployed rpca friends.
Trish - 17 Jul 2005 17:10 GMT
> > Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of people who
> > claim to have taken such interesting courses in school, etc, are so damn
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>
> Purrs for all of our unemployed rpca friends.

lol now how did I know with 100% certainty you'd know exactly who I meant!
CatNipped - 17 Jul 2005 17:40 GMT
> > > Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of people
> who
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>
> lol now how did I know with 100% certainty you'd know exactly who I meant!

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of
the weak and the strong. Because someday in life, you will have been all of
these." ~George Washington Carver

Hugs,

CatNipped
Mary - 17 Jul 2005 17:44 GMT
> > > > Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of people
> > who
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> the weak and the strong. Because someday in life, you will have been all of
> these." ~George Washington Carver

That is a lovely quote, CN, and one I have never seen before. Thanks
for sharing.
CatNipped - 17 Jul 2005 17:51 GMT
> > > > > Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of
> people
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> That is a lovely quote, CN, and one I have never seen before. Thanks
> for sharing.

You're welcome.

I have no problem tolerating trolls and flame wars - heck, I even enjoy them
when they are smart and witty.  But, [not that is matters a gnat's fart to
anyone else] what I dislike is mean-spiritedness.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Mary - 17 Jul 2005 18:30 GMT
> > > > > > Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of
> > people
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> when they are smart and witty.  But, [not that is matters a gnat's fart to
> anyone else] what I dislike is mean-spiritedness.

Excellent point. Another good one is that when one encounters
mean-spiritedness in sufficient concentration, one must fight not
to learn to respond in kind just as a matter of self defense.

For example, Jill feels quite comfortable declaring to all
my mental health problems and penchant for posting
nonsense that nobody can understand. Since my posts are
always well-written and clear in meaning, the latter must
arise out of nothing more than her own mean-spirited
wish to discredit me.

As for being crazy, well, maybe. But one would think the
good Usenet denizens can figure that one out for themselves.
:)
CatNipped - 17 Jul 2005 18:39 GMT
> > > > > > > Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of
> > > people
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> mean-spiritedness in sufficient concentration, one must fight not
> to learn to respond in kind just as a matter of self defense.

Yes, and that is often difficult to do.  Not to mention any names
(*cough*Lyn*cough*) but some people can drive you to want to reach through
your computer and ensanguine their nasty faces.

> For example, Jill feels quite comfortable declaring to all
> my mental health problems and penchant for posting
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> good Usenet denizens can figure that one out for themselves.
> :)

Crazy?  Hey, I resemble that remark!!!  ;>

Seriously, I don't like mean-spiritedness *whatever* the source.  I should
have posted this as a separate post so as not to implicate just one
person/side.

As for the "war" currently being waged...  There are better ways to handle
this than has been demonstrated.  I *don't* believe in net-copping or trying
to squelch someone's free speech.  I think I've made it very clear, in
several posts, that if a person wants to net-cop they should go after the
child-pornographers and spammers.  For the merely aggravating, use your
kill-file or self-restraint and ignore.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Mary - 17 Jul 2005 18:58 GMT
> > > > > > > > Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion
> of
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> child-pornographers and spammers.  For the merely aggravating, use your
> kill-file or self-restraint and ignore.

Yes, you have made yourself very clear there. I appreciate your sense of
fairness. It goes a lot farther than the ham-handed tactics of the censors.
Suzanne Phlamague - 17 Jul 2005 19:14 GMT
>Excellent point. Another good one is that when one encounters
>mean-spiritedness in sufficient concentration, one must fight not
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>good Usenet denizens can figure that one out for themselves.
>:)

However, you do post using a service that, like Altopia, has the sole
purpose of anonymizing the identity its posters, something that is
often used to the advantage of newsgroup trolls and perfomance
artistes, so you're credibility is suspect right off the bat.

Of course, you may argue that you use this service to protect yourself
from the various murderers, stalkers, and other malicious types that
abound in newsgroups especially those with long histories like the
rec.pet.* newsgroups which seem to attract the bottom feeders of
Usenet who know they can get a cheap and easy rise out of pet owners
who tend to be a touchy bunch. Kind of like shooting fish in a barrel
for the more accomplished disruptors. Cheap thrills for the mentally
lazy.

HAND, hope your cat don't die.
Mary - 17 Jul 2005 19:20 GMT
> >Excellent point. Another good one is that when one encounters
> >mean-spiritedness in sufficient concentration, one must fight not
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> often used to the advantage of newsgroup trolls and perfomance
> artistes, so you're credibility is suspect right off the bat.

No I don't. It is a regular ISP. news.x-private.org--and I also
post using Teranews. They are not anonymizing at all.

> Of course, you may argue that you use this service to protect yourself
> from the various murderers, stalkers, and other malicious types that
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> HAND, hope your cat don't die.

Why, thank you. I have two cats, and I hope they do not die either.
And, in return, let me just say that I hope your cat "don't die."

HAND, FOAD. :)
Rhonda - 18 Jul 2005 03:24 GMT
I like that, CN. George was a smart man.

Rhonda

> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> CatNipped
Enfilade - 17 Jul 2005 17:13 GMT
Quote:  " If they were as highly educated as they claim to be then
they'd have a
> better job "

I would like to take the opportunity to say bullsh*t.  With a lagging
economy, and in areas where unemployment is over 10 percent, education
means little when the only places hiring are offering minimum wage, or
able to slash their wages to take advantage of the desparation felt by
the unemployed.

For example,  an assistant manager in this area makes LESS than an
entry level worker in the place I grew up.  But if you don't accept
that, it's no job at all.

--Enfilade, about to be making more money from her university
scholarship for master's degree #2 than I made while working full time.
Mary - 17 Jul 2005 17:17 GMT
> Quote:  " If they were as highly educated as they claim to be then
> they'd have a
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> --Enfilade, about to be making more money from her university
> scholarship for master's degree #2 than I made while working full time.

Where are you?
Trish - 17 Jul 2005 17:40 GMT
> Quote:  " If they were as highly educated as they claim to be then
> they'd have a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> --Enfilade, about to be making more money from her university
> scholarship for master's degree #2 than I made while working full time.

This post was not meant as a slur for everyone who is unemployed or in low
paying jobs, it was meant directly for the handful of posters who comment as
if their word is final on everything, and often in a rude sarcastic way.
Yet brag about the degrees, courses etc they have, then bitch about having a
sucky low paying job.  If they put half their energy into looking for
something better they may find it.  I agree some areas are hit by a decline
in good paying jobs, but some of these people live in areas of open job
markets that are looking for well educated and experienced people.
sriddles@aol.com - 17 Jul 2005 20:21 GMT
> This post was not meant as a slur for everyone who is unemployed or in low
> paying jobs, it was meant directly for the handful of posters who comment as
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> in good paying jobs, but some of these people live in areas of open job
> markets that are looking for well educated and experienced people.

Three words: Work ethic, ambition, and initiative.

Education *or* brains don't mean diddly squat, and brains won't get you
anywhere without at least one of the above three.

Sherry
Mary - 17 Jul 2005 20:34 GMT
> > This post was not meant as a slur for everyone who is unemployed or in low
> > paying jobs, it was meant directly for the handful of posters who comment as
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Education *or* brains don't mean diddly squat, and brains won't get you
> anywhere without at least one of the above three.

Quite true. Long before I worked my way into and out of college,
I worked my *ss off. All I ever wanted was my independence and
to be a good person, able to look at my own face in the mirror
without feeling ashamed of my behavior. I figured out early on that
it is best to work hard for what you want. That way, you never have
to suck up to anyone--and everything you have is YOURS. And you
get to be who you are, you never have to fake anything. It rocks.
I get off on hard work and challenges. :)
Enfilade - 17 Jul 2005 22:22 GMT
Explanation accepted.

I don't care for people who act like the final authority on Creation,
no matter HOW educated they may or may not be.

I currently live in the Atlantic provinces of Canada.  Many people here
are leaving for Alberta or Ontario in search of better job prospects or
else working seasonally, collecting welfare in the winter because all
the fishing and tourism jobs stop existing in September and don't start
again until May.  I am not leaving, because my fiance is in medical
school here.  We are lucky--when he is a doctor, we will hopefully not
have financial problems.

In the meantime, I am ex-military, suffering from neurological damage,
and using the knowledge I gained in my crappy jobs to examine what I
learned about myself, my abilities, and what makes me happy.  This
knowledge is why I have quit attempting to make it in a corporate
environment and changed my energies towards pursuing an
academic/literary career.  While going to school I will also be
teaching a course to earn some income, which is a job I enjoy,
and--while it is only ten hours a week--pays quite well per hour.

Lauren:  do you really think I would be allowed to collect social
assistance and also collect a full scholarship from Dalhousie?

There are plenty of people suffering from the poor economy who are NOT
on welfare.  In fact, there are a lot of people who work their a.ses
off for the miserable $6.50 CDN an hour (approx $5.40 US) that is
minimum wage here.

--Fil
Trish - 17 Jul 2005 23:03 GMT
> Explanation accepted.
>
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>
> --Fil

I'm from the Atlantic provinces as well, and I understand completely, the
economy is either seasonal or low waged, yet you pay one of the highest
taxes, I never did understand that.  What pisses me off is how people in the
mainland provinces think the Atlantic provinces are just looking for
handouts, which is not true, in my opinion they are simply looking for what
is rightfully theirs.
whitershadeofpale - 17 Jul 2005 23:41 GMT
> Explanation accepted.
>
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>
> --Fil

Congrats on your sholarship!

Keep your head up!

Barry
PawsForThought - 17 Jul 2005 17:53 GMT
> I would like to take the opportunity to say bullsh*t.  With a lagging
> economy, and in areas where unemployment is over 10 percent, education
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> --Enfilade, about to be making more money from her university
> scholarship for master's degree #2 than I made while working full time.

Oh yes, blame the lagging economy...then get on public assistance so we
have to support you....

Lauren
working and have 25 master's degrees :)
Mary - 17 Jul 2005 18:26 GMT
> > I would like to take the opportunity to say bullsh*t.  With a lagging
> > economy, and in areas where unemployment is over 10 percent, education
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Lauren
> working and have 25 master's degrees :)

I've got 26. And four PhDs. :) Nyah nyah!
Kitkat - 17 Jul 2005 18:38 GMT
>>>I would like to take the opportunity to say bullsh*t.  With a lagging
>>>economy, and in areas where unemployment is over 10 percent, education
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> I've got 26. And four PhDs. :) Nyah nyah!

My hubby has none and makes more than I do! ;)

Pam,
with one measley master's degree and a teaching job
Mary - 17 Jul 2005 18:40 GMT
> >>>I would like to take the opportunity to say bullsh*t.  With a lagging
> >>>economy, and in areas where unemployment is over 10 percent, education
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Pam,
> with one measley master's degree and a teaching job

He must have a trade. Where have you been? Hope you're
feeling okay.
Kitkat - 17 Jul 2005 18:53 GMT
>>>>>I would like to take the opportunity to say bullsh*t.  With a lagging
>>>>>economy, and in areas where unemployment is over 10 percent, education
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> He must have a trade. Where have you been? Hope you're
> feeling okay.

He does. It is called the computer. Amazing what people will pay for
computer literate people!!!

I have been here and I am feeling good...just tired a lot. :)
Mary - 17 Jul 2005 18:56 GMT
> >>>>>I would like to take the opportunity to say bullsh*t.  With a lagging
> >>>>>economy, and in areas where unemployment is over 10 percent, education
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> I have been here and I am feeling good...just tired a lot. :)

Hmm. Are they still adjusting your synthroid dose?
Kitkat - 17 Jul 2005 19:37 GMT
>>>>>>>I would like to take the opportunity to say bullsh*t.  With a lagging
>>>>>>>economy, and in areas where unemployment is over 10 percent,
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
> Hmm. Are they still adjusting your synthroid dose?

I've only been on the Synthroid for about 4 weeks. I cant even get my
blood tested for another 2 weeks to see if it's the right dose. So, yes,
we are still in the process. Who knows how long it could take!!!
Mary - 17 Jul 2005 19:47 GMT
> >>>>>>>I would like to take the opportunity to say bullsh*t.  With a lagging
> >>>>>>>economy, and in areas where unemployment is over 10 percent,
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
> blood tested for another 2 weeks to see if it's the right dose. So, yes,
> we are still in the process. Who knows how long it could take!!!

Poor kitkat, this has to be rough. The endocrine system is
so delicate and complicated. Are you taking your C and eating
your fruits and vegetables and beans and garlic and drinking your
green tea? (I make sweet tea of it, with Splenda! Very nice, iced.
And it controls cell growth, along with doing a whole bunch of
other good things.)

Re: fresh garlic dishes:

one ripe tomato
two-three cloves fresh garlic
ten fresh mushrooms
olive oil with a bit of butter for flavor
parmesan cheese
angel hair pasta (good hard durum semolina)

Smash then dice the garlic (releasing the allicin!) and
put it in the olive oil and butter on low heat.
(You don't really want it cooked--you just want
the flavor to infuse into the oil/butter)

Dice up the tomatoes and mushrooms and toss them
into the pan, turn up to medium for maybe 2 minutes.

Boil the pasta al dente, drain, toss it all together, add
salt and pepper and parm to taste! Great stuff!
PawsForThought - 18 Jul 2005 17:56 GMT
> I've got 26. And four PhDs. :) Nyah nyah!

LMAO! You got me beat :)
Mary - 18 Jul 2005 18:30 GMT
> > I've got 26. And four PhDs. :) Nyah nyah!
>
> LMAO! You got me beat :)

The bad news is, just as you might suspect I would have
to be in order to finish that much school, I am 223 years
old! ;)
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Jul 2005 04:30 GMT
>>Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of people who
>>claim to have taken such interesting courses in school, etc, are so damn
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>better job and could post more about life than their monotonous boring
>>drivel.

That may have been true, back in the 1950's, when jobs were
plentiful (although even then, women had problems finding
the kind of work they'd trained for, if it was anything but
secretarial or teaching).  In today's world, you simply
don't know what you're talking about!  BTW, define
"monotonous boring drivel" - most of the regular posters
here are one hell of a lot more interesting than anything
you've posted so far!

> Purrs for all of our unemployed rpca friends.
whitershadeofpale - 18 Jul 2005 05:04 GMT
> >>Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of people who
> >>claim to have taken such interesting courses in school, etc, are so damn
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> > Purrs for all of our unemployed rpca friends.

What's all this negative talk about jobs!
They told me there was no jobs in my city!
I have no less than 8 months of work on my books.

So much for the jobless town.

Bwaaa! A jobless soul is a lazy Soul

My grandmother taught me that!
Trish - 18 Jul 2005 05:06 GMT
> >>Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of people who
> >>claim to have taken such interesting courses in school, etc, are so damn
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> here are one hell of a lot more interesting than anything
> you've posted so far!

I'll assume this was directed at me, although I'm not sure why you included
Mary's remark and only responded to mine.  And yes dear, I do know what I'm
talking about, had you engaged brain before engaging mouth you would have
read my next post which explained further that I was not referrig to all
people (and note I was not singling out women, that was your choice).  I've
worked in many positions where I was responsible for hiring people, into
well paying jobs, and my experience is that sure they want the money but not
the work that comes with it.  Then they bitch and moan about not being able
to find a job.  What they want is a paid vacation 365 days a year.  I call
that laziness and lack of will to get off their butts and do some work to
earn their salary.

Added to that is that some people here post about their courses they've
taken, degreees, etc. they must be scholars with all that education but yet
aren't working, I blame it on lacking a desire to commit to a regular job.
It's everywhere not just here, and my post was directed speciffically to
those people.  I challenge you to prove me wrong.

Montonous boring drivel... exactly as it reads, these same people who should
be able to discuss topics of great diversity have the same standard answers
for everything.  Find me a few interesting posts and I'll agree with you.
Until then, I'll stick with my own theory.  Oh I might add it appears that
anyone who goes outside themselves to post anything interesting is shunned
by the inner circle.

I have posted interesting things but sorry I'm not part of the clique so you
wouldn't have read them most likely.

> > Purrs for all of our unemployed rpca friends.
sriddles@aol.com - 18 Jul 2005 05:39 GMT
> >>Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of people who
> >>claim to have taken such interesting courses in school, etc, are so damn
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> here are one hell of a lot more interesting than anything
> you've posted so far!

Besides that, why on earth would anybody spend their time reading
anything they consider monotonous or drivelous?

Sherry
Mary - 18 Jul 2005 17:42 GMT
> > >>Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of people who
> > >>claim to have taken such interesting courses in school, etc, are so damn
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Sherry

Okay, quiz: what part of the above did I write?
Nomen Nescio - 18 Jul 2005 05:40 GMT
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>most of the regular posters
>here are one hell of a lot more interesting than anything
>you've posted so far!

RPCA Cocktail

200 mg Prozac
50 mg Valium
5  oz cheap Vodka
5 oz tomato juice

Mix
Stir
Chug
Post to rpca
whitershadeofpale - 18 Jul 2005 06:14 GMT
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Chug! but don't swallow
Mary - 18 Jul 2005 17:47 GMT
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> Chug
> Post to rpca

I only wish it were true. The entire "nicey-nice" thing is a front
for seething rage. Look at how fast Victor used the "c" word
on me when I was actually in the right, as Dan admitted the
next day. Look at how Laurie of the asinine "sparkly"
livelovelaugh sig reacts to the first thing she takes as
threatening? And then there is Jill, who begins yelling
"troll" at someone she has been reading for over a year
as a regular poster. And Henry, who, although usually
a funny, level-headed guy, and very smart, begins using
the phrase "denial of service attack" as though this could
even be done without a bot. Pfft. Fully most of you (rpca
people) are hypocrites--and that goes for those of you
who knew damned well that Dan was in the wrong and
know it now but will not speak up. And those of you who
know the netcopping is wrong and still will not speak out.
What goes around comes around, my little ostriches. The
beautiful part is, I don't have to do a thing. :)
whitershadeofpale - 17 Jul 2005 17:49 GMT
> Something I find very odd on Usenet is that large porportion of people who
> claim to have taken such interesting courses in school, etc, are so damn
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> better job and could post more about life than their monotonous boring
> drivel.

My tire was thumping.
I thought it was flat
When I looked at the tire...
I noticed your cat.

Sorry!

just awful!
 
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