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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2005Dan finally admits that he lied!
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Just caught this on RPCA. From: Dan M <dan@wolf.com> Message-ID: <pan.2005.07.13.16.39.52.75000@wolf.com> >My mom is doing better, but still not well. They are calling in an >infectious disease specialist today to try to figure out what's going on. > >Perhaps next week we'll see an update on Conan. Perhaps not. But whenever >that update is released, I am not going to feel pressured by Mary or >anyone else to see that cat put into a situation that is not appropriate >for him. And as for Mary's adoption fee, I sent that back to her via >PayPal before she started her current spew-fest. So her spew-fest is not >about money any more than it's about cats. >I've given up hope of Mary or the other hate-mongers thinking about what's >best for the cat, as well as hope of them ever starting to behave like >rational grown adults. I have been pretty well ignoring the spew posts as >well as the followups, but seeing Howard's name on some of the replies got >me to look this morning - I do love Howard's messages! But I will now >return to my policy of deleting all posts on this subject without reading >them. > >Dan IT'S OFFICIAL! DAN IS A DOUCHEBAG! > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > IT'S OFFICIAL! DAN IS A DOUCHEBAG! Wow. I wont go so far as to call him a douchebag. Apparently he is going through a lot with his mom and his own personal situations...but...I am really surprised that it has all come to this and that he couldn't be honest in the first place. Pam > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Pam Say, I have some waterfront property in Arizona I'd like to sell reaaal cheap. Just email me. hehehe Nice Lady! You are nice, but you are green as a gord >>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > Nice Lady! You are nice, but you are green as a gord Hey Barry...you don't know sh.t about me! Kay? > >>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>> [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > > Hey Barry...you don't know sh.t about me! Kay? well get your head out of your a.s!!! Stop acting like a bit dumb a.s...Kay? ain't nobody buying that act. (and it is an act) > >>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>> [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > > Hey Barry...you don't know sh.t about me! Kay? Wait! You're right. I don't know you. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, I don't blame you if you're mad. It really was not about you, I just used that post to make a point about Dan, but It was not fair to you. Sorry >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > really surprised that it has all come to this and that he couldn't be > honest in the first place. I am trying to figure out how I have turned into a hate monger since his sweet emails of two weeks ago. In any case, I knew that if I kept up the pressure in rpca asking him to come forward he would. Anyone too weak to be honest about picking up Conan would have to fold like a cheap suit given a little push. And he did. That at least is rather gratifying. I am getting the feeling that old Dan may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer. :) > > I am trying to figure out how I have turned into a hate monger since his > sweet emails > of two weeks ago.>>> You've always been a hate monger. Alison >> > I am trying to figure out how I have turned into a hate monger > since his [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You've always been a hate monger. > Alison lol! >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > I am trying to figure out how I have turned into a hate monger since his > sweet emails of two weeks ago. snip Mary .... YOU are the POSTER BITCH for man hating, hate mongering witches. > >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Mary .... YOU are the POSTER BITCH for man hating, hate mongering witches. I'm filing this one Philip. There it went! right into my documents. >> "Mary" <marys@catlover.com> wrote in message > news:42d57eee_1@x-privat.org... [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > I'm filing this one Philip. There it went! right into my documents. Good. Be sure you include the entire posting for context. > >> "Mary" <marys@catlover.com> wrote in message > > news:42d57eee_1@x-privat.org... [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > Good. Be sure you include the entire posting for context. Hey hey... Take it eeasy greasy, you got a looong way to slide >From: Dan M <dan@wolf.com> >> >>that update is released, I am not going to feel pressured by Mary or >>anyone else to see that cat put into a situation that is not appropriate >>for him. Does anyone know exactly what it was that Dan objected to? Or specifically why people who want to adopt Conan have been turned down? I've read speculations but nothing definite. >>I've given up hope of Mary or the other hate-mongers thinking about what's >>best for the cat, as well as hope of them ever starting to behave like >>rational grown adults. I don't know if Dan will read this, but I think the issue is that people secretly took it upon themselves to judge those who wanted to adopt Conan. If you judge someone, you're going to cause hurt feelings, and Dan or any other "rational grown adult" should know this. The result is that Conan still doesn't have a home, that we know of, which gets more people's dander up. I'm at a loss as to why Dan doesn't understand the reasons people are upset. Not understanding the degree to which they got upset, maybe, but otherwise this seems pretty obvious. Stacia -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: stacia@xmission.com (Glitter Ninja) >Does anyone know exactly what it was that Dan objected to? Nope. He won't communicate with anyone who has asked. > Or >specifically why people who want to adopt Conan have been turned down? Nope. He won't communicate with anyone who has asked. >I've read speculations but nothing definite. That's because....He won't communicate with anyone who has asked. > I don't know if Dan will read this, but I think the issue is that >people secretly took it upon themselves to judge those who wanted to >adopt Conan. And Dan lied about any involvement. And Dan betrayed several people that trusted him. And the cat is still in a cage. > If you judge someone, you're going to cause hurt feelings, >and Dan or any other "rational grown adult" should know this. One would think so! >The >result is that Conan still doesn't have a home, that we know of, which >gets more people's dander up. That's the main problem. Two weeks later, they don't have a clue what to do with the cat. >Not understanding the degree to which they got upset, maybe, but >otherwise this seems pretty obvious. It should be obvious to a human being......But Dan"s a douchebag. Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop communicating. That was BEFORE the (OMG *GASP* NO) resuce of Conan from the KILL shelter. If you are going to kiss and tell. Tell all yourself. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > =HmuL > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop > communicating. That was BEFORE the (OMG *GASP* NO) resuce of Conan from > the > KILL shelter. If you are going to kiss and tell. Tell all yourself. He also didn't say that he knew who was communicating with him BEFORE he went for Conan. Maybe it was the same people who were calling the shelter and trying to put the kibosh on the whole rescue NOT Mary or anyone that was trying to work with her to rescue this cat. It makes no logical sense otherwise. What possible motive would Mary have to threaten Dan at that point. Dan didn't stop communicating at that point either. He wove that wonderful story about getting to the shelter too late and then he stopped communicating. Ya know a simple, I got the cat, I'm being threatened and don't want any further involvement and a mail rule blocking incoming would have done the trick without the drama and still maintained credibility. But that's just my 2¢ W > > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening > > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > W I only know my personal experiences with Mary over the space of a year or two on internet and I find her completely unstable in her with her switch and bait tactics. She has also tried to intimidate me with posting in such a way as to let me know that SHE knows personal information about me. Would she act on it? Maybe not, but I know that she regularly uses this type of pyschological strong arming. IMO there is little difference between her and what she is complaining about in regards to others. I"m sorry, but in MY experience with her, well, let's just say I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her and I don't blame Dan for beginning to get leary once odd things started happening. What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are worried about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be euthanized, he will find a home that is going to be apparently better than good -(considering what we do know about this situation) and the goal was achieved. But people can't seem to focus on THAT at all. Instead they are just SCAAAANdalized about everything. Hello? What is the truly bottom line important thing? Conan is OK. I"m sorry, but wherever he is being boarded is probably leagues better than a **county kill shelter** and a home is being actively sought. I would think that is what should matter. >> > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening >> > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > I > would think that is what should matter. Karen. Honey. I am sorry you are so stupid. You got mad at me for telling Tanada (Pam S.) that all she had to do was remove rpca from the groups line if she did not want crossposts there--at the time when Grant was dying. The rest is just the same old bullshit. You know better, but you won't back down. You know that you are wrong--and that neither you nor anyone else here or anywhere has any reason to mistrust me--but you will never admit it. You lack character. It's not a crime, but I feel sad for you. >>> > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening >>> > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] >here or anywhere has any reason to mistrust me--but you will never admit >it. You lack character. It's not a crime, but I feel sad for you. >> > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening >> > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > I > would think that is what should matter. The problem with him being boarded is that it's not somewhere people normally look when they are interested in adopting a cat. I'd rather see him in a no kill shelter where he could be seen and then totally neutral people would be vetting prospective adopters. >>> > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting >>> > threatening [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > him in a no kill shelter where he could be seen and then totally neutral > people would be vetting prospective adopters. Dan offered to try to get him into the Redlands no-kill shelter if we could not find him a home right away. I wonder if he even tried. > >> > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening > >> > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > in a no kill shelter where he could be seen and then totally neutral people > would be vetting prospective adopters. And just how do you know who is and is not seeing Conan? >> >> > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting > threatening [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] >> > And just how do you know who is and is not seeing Conan? If he's in a boarding facility it isn't a place that people browse when looking for a cat. If he has been put in a no kill shelter then yay! >>> >> > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting >> threatening [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > If he's in a boarding facility it isn't a place that people browse when > looking for a cat. If he has been put in a no kill shelter then yay! He is in Four Paws Kennel, just around the corner from Dan's house in Highland. Google it, and you can see the same floors etc. as we saw in the photos Monica sent. (Not my work, but that of our resident forensic archaeologist.) > And just how do you know who is and is not seeing Conan? I know. I have an inside contact, greased a palm or two. Now then, tell me about my "bait and switch" tactics. Isn't that something car salemen do? :) >The problem with him being boarded is that it's not somewhere people >normally look when they are interested in adopting a cat. I'd rather see him >in a no kill shelter where he could be seen and then totally neutral people >would be vetting prospective adopters. I definitely agree with that. Cut out the newspaper ads and just get into a shelter where his life isn't in danger, and he will be seen by potential adopters. He's not going to entice somebody to adopt him unless he can grab their heart in person. And the longer it takes, the harder it will be.  Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com > >The problem with him being boarded is that it's not somewhere people > >normally look when they are interested in adopting a cat. I'd rather see him [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > into a shelter where his life isn't in danger, and he will be seen by > potential adopters. I'm guessing the 7/14 at the end of each ad is the last date it will run. >> >The problem with him being boarded is that it's not somewhere people >> >normally look when they are interested in adopting a cat. I'd rather see [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I'm guessing the 7/14 at the end of each ad is the last date it will run. lol! I am guessing so too! Next week Monica will have wised up and opened a new hotmail account and changed Conan/Dylan's name again. >lol! I am guessing so too! Next week Monica will have wised up and opened >a new hotmail account and changed Conan/Dylan's name again. I was told today that Monica did not place the ads. It sounds like somebody else was interfering, either to make her look bad, or keep the flames going. I hope the newspaper will release who did it. We don't need extra stuff like this brought it to make things worse. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >>lol! I am guessing so too! Next week Monica will have wised up and opened >>a new hotmail account and changed Conan/Dylan's name again. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > did it. We don't need extra stuff like this brought it to make things > worse. Somebody has more money than brains then. >>>lol! I am guessing so too! Next week Monica will have wised up and opened >>>a new hotmail account and changed Conan/Dylan's name again. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> > Somebody has more money than brains then. Did those ads cost money? >>>>lol! I am guessing so too! Next week Monica will have wised up and >>>>opened [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Did those ads cost money? I had assumed they did (print ads aren't free) and just now went and clicked on place an add and they asked for a credit card # so it seems they do. I didn't go any further to find out how much. W >>>>>lol! I am guessing so too! Next week Monica will have wised up and >>>>>opened [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > clicked on place an add and they asked for a credit card # so it seems > they do. I didn't go any further to find out how much. I see. Then the ad is connected to a name on a credit card. Would they even allow someone to post an ad and give another contact name? >>>>>>lol! I am guessing so too! Next week Monica will have wised up and >>>>>>opened [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > even > allow someone to post an ad and give another contact name? Can't say for sure but probably. W > >>>lol! I am guessing so too! Next week Monica will have wised up and opened > >>>a new hotmail account and changed Conan/Dylan's name again. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Did those ads cost money? Yes there is a charge for the ad. I e-maild the paper to ask for the pricing of a classified add under merchandise but have not heard back. > >>lol! I am guessing so too! Next week Monica will have wised up and opened > >>a new hotmail account and changed Conan/Dylan's name again. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > Somebody has more money than brains then. Hmmmm, who could that be? >>lol! I am guessing so too! Next week Monica will have wised up and opened >>a new hotmail account and changed Conan/Dylan's name again. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > did it. We don't need extra stuff like this brought it to make things > worse. Meghan, I would not be too quick to believe that. > >lol! I am guessing so too! Next week Monica will have wised up and opened > >a new hotmail account and changed Conan/Dylan's name again. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > did it. We don't need extra stuff like this brought it to make things > worse. Gosh, I wonder who? > -- > Meghan & the Zoo Crew > Equine and Pet Photography > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >> >lol! I am guessing so too! Next week Monica will have wised up and opened >> >a new hotmail account and changed Conan/Dylan's name again. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Gosh, I wonder who? My guess would be Phillip. He seems to be enjoying this whole mess, and he was getting upset back when it looked like the rescue was going to succeed. I don't think he cares what happens to Conan, or who look sgood or bad, as long as the argument continues. I would be surprised if he was the one who called the shelter. If there were threats made to Dan before the rescue took place, then he would be the most likely to do it. And I wouldn't be surprised if he placed the newspaper ads. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >> lol! I am guessing so too! Next week Monica will have wised up and opened >> a new hotmail account and changed Conan/Dylan's name again. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > did it. We don't need extra stuff like this brought it to make things > worse. "We?" Who are the "we" of which you speak? > >> > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening > >> > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > in a no kill shelter where he could be seen and then totally neutral people > would be vetting prospective adopters. I'm going to treat you sweet and kind, nothing cynical, no shock posts. There was homes ready for the cat. That's all I wanted to say. What's going on now, is a farce, it's a mockery, it's a joke! I AM INCENSED! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!! Look, for real. You really approve of this kind of stanky behavior? or are your views tainted by your personal feelings of Mary. Just think about it, and if you don't agree, come on back and we'll argue some more. > > > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening > > > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > better than a **county kill shelter** and a home is being actively sought. I > would think that is what should matter. You should try loosening your buttplug a little, it's affecting your thinking blah blah whine whine incessant midwest whine. > You should try loosening your buttplug a little, it's affecting your > thinking Trrrrrissshhhhhhhh! low five lowwwww five! lol!! >> > > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting > threatening [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > You should try loosening your buttplug a little, it's affecting your > thinking Ah... the voice of experience in peyote use. > I only know my personal experiences with Mary over the space of a year or > two on internet and I find her completely unstable in her with her switch [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > could throw her and I don't blame Dan for beginning to get leary once odd > things started happening.>>> Yup <nodding> Alison >> I only know my personal experiences with Mary over the space of a > year or [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Yup <nodding> I am so surprised. Golly, Alison. >> > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening >> > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > I > would think that is what should matter. Karen ... are you really saying the lateral move from a cage in a kill shelter to a cage in a no-kill shelter is better? REALLY ... what a concept! It's so simple! >What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are worried >about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be euthanized, he will >find a home that is going to be apparently better than good -(considering >what we do know about this situation) and the goal was achieved. It is not a done deal. The money is adding up, and sooner or later they will have to stop. They aren't going to want to admit failure, so unless they find a good home soon, they will probably just put him in a shelter, and then euthanasia could be a possibilty again. We can't say that that the goal was achieved until it is done. It hasn't happened yet, so we can't know for sure what will happen. I am really worried that they will get frustrated and just dump him rather than admit failure. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com > >What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are worried > >about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be euthanized, he will [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Equine and Pet Photography > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com soo what you're saying, is we should reach out in love and compassion and send the message, we are here for you if you need our help? That's a big order fill, but you're right, they would never admit failure! never! It appears to be personal with Monica. Dan, I don't know, I think she bought him a Single Cheese at Wendy's or something. >> >What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are worried >> >about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be euthanized, he [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > bought > him a Single Cheese at Wendy's or something. Nah. Gotta be at least a months worth of heart stopping Trucker's Breakfasts (4 hubcaps, 6 bacon, side of ham, homefries w/gravy, 3 spare tires, and a 24oz cup o mud). > >> >What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are worried > >> >about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be euthanized, he [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Breakfasts (4 hubcaps, 6 bacon, side of ham, homefries w/gravy, 3 spare > tires, and a 24oz cup o mud). Hey, I might be persuaded to do a dirty deed for that! or Two dead soldiers face down in the mud, two hand grenades and a side of shrapnel Oh, and the the 24oz cup o mud. > > >> >What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are > worried [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > shrapnel > Oh, and the the 24oz cup o mud. One fine day in the middle of the night Two dead boys got up to fight back to back they faced each other drew their swords and shot one another if you don't believe this lie is true ask the blind man he saw it too > > > >> >What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are > > worried [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > ask the blind man > he saw it too I haven't heard that in.... well, it's been a while. lol As I was walking to St Ives I met a man with seven wives He tipped his hat, Andrew his cane, and in this tale I told his name. We had a terrible storm here, I had to un-plug everything (everything)...Im back now! It's really great to goto sleep in the storm and wake back up and you're still there. It's soo quiet in here. >>>>> What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are >>>>> worried about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > shrapnel > Oh, and the the 24oz cup o mud. Don't give up your day job for writing comedy. > >>>>> What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are > >>>>> worried about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Don't give up your day job for writing comedy. I stole it from Greg and Dharma. Ah! Dharma... It must be funny! >>>>>>> What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are >>>>>>> worried about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > It must be funny! Jack Benny was funny. Abbott & Costello were funny. Red Skelton was funny. George Burns and Gracie Allen were funny. G and D .... forgettable. We watched an episode or two with the kids .... blah. > >>>>>>> What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are > >>>>>>> worried about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > George Burns and Gracie Allen were funny. G and D .... forgettable. We > watched an episode or two with the kids .... blah. Philip! Your makeup is starting to run! big red lips, blonde wig setting all cock-eyed, fake eyelashes! fake cigarette! ---- Anything Dharma has to say it reaal cute! I don't even have to have the TV turned up. ----- You're probably setting there in a kimona ---- oh man, I could make you blush right now, but I spare you. hehehe >>What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are worried >>about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be euthanized, he [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Equine and Pet Photography > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com "You" (collectively speaking) will be none the wiser either way. It will be a violation of confidentiality to reveal the adopting person especially with all the controversy. >"You" (collectively speaking) will be none the wiser either way. It will be >a violation of confidentiality to reveal the adopting person especially with >all the controversy. I don't want somebody's name or address. Just the statement that he is in a real home. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >>"You" (collectively speaking) will be none the wiser either way. It will >>be [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I don't want somebody's name or address. Just the statement that he is > in a real home. I think he will wind up in another kill shelter. > >>"You" (collectively speaking) will be none the wiser either way. It will > >>be [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I think he will wind up in another kill shelter. The truth is, and this is sad. I don't know how to say it, but, they never ceased to need to group. Oh, they might have wanted to go independent, ha, they have always needed everyone's help. I see no reason why the group cannot help now. He obviously is ready for some help. (he's had enough of Monica's bossy butt) >>> "You" (collectively speaking) will be none the wiser either way. It >>> will be [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I think he will wind up in another kill shelter. There you go again ... writing another script with a horrible ending. >> "You" (collectively speaking) will be none the wiser either way. It >> will be a violation of confidentiality to reveal the adopting person >> especially with all the controversy. >> > I don't want somebody's name or address. Just the statement that he is > in a real home. And JUST WHO are YOU that ANYBODY must to report to? Hmmm? > > > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening > > > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > way as to let me know that SHE knows personal information about me. Would > she act on it? Karen, it's not fair to make generalities and fail to produce just a tad of evidence. I've gone to court more than my share, won a few lost a few The ones that I won, I had brought something with me. Something in writing. Some fact, some time, some date, some undeniable quote. Otherwise all you have is hearsay. Can I get an Amen? Can I BUY and amen? Lord have mercy! Ya'll ain't hearing me Ain't nobody listening. > > > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening > > > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > could throw her and I don't blame Dan for beginning to get leary once odd > things started happening. I'm with you, sister. Mary tried this kind of nonsense with me too. Didn't bother me, I've been on usenet over 20 years now...nothing really surprises me about the insanity that goes on in some poster's minds. But I think Mary can be dangerous, and as I said earlier, I don't blame Dan one bit for deleting her drivel unread. I would too. She's in my killfile of course, so I don't see anything anymore, and that does make for a much more enjoyable newgroup in my opinion. But again, I agree with you Karen 100%. > What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are worried > about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be euthanized, he will [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > better than a **county kill shelter** and a home is being actively sought. I > would think that is what should matter. Uh, duh! Marjorie >> > > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting > threatening [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > I don't see anything anymore, and that does make for a much more enjoyable > newgroup in my opinion. But again, I agree with you Karen 100%. Here is the gist of the matter, my little pinheads: it does not matter how you feel about me. All of my interactions with Dan were witnessed by Tracy, Rhonda and Charlie. They know exactly what was said. You, Marjorie, and you, Karen, are just really stupid people.Happily, you are ineffectual people. When I told you exactly what happened, you swore it was a lie. Dan has since verified that everything I said was true. I understand that you are both unhappy people, If I were you I would be unhappy too.. However, none of that changes what Dan did--and he did it to the groups of us who tried to help Conan, and the group standing ready with funds (who will remain unnamed, you know who you are) to help make his home a reality. You will be much better off if you can accept the fact that people like me will never pay much attention to people like you, and will always do exactly as we please no matter what you say. It is the way of the world. You are petty, dull, dimwitted whiners. Sneering, resentful, petty losers. Insignificant humans who can do nothing more than nourish your resentment for those who are both happier and more successful than you. I am sorry this is true. It has to suck to be you. But it is your choice. You have made yourselves everything you are. >> Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening >> letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > otherwise. What possible motive would Mary have to threaten Dan at that > point. Threaten him? I was so grateful to him for getting Conan out of there I was in tears most of the night before he went to get him. > Dan didn't stop communicating at that point either. He wove that wonderful > story about getting to the shelter too late and then he stopped [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > But that's just my 2¢ It is true. And I have never, ever gotten ugly with Dan, via email, via the newsgroup, or via telephone. He knows this, that is what makes it worse. He is accusing me of posting via other emails, and I do not ever do that. It is totally nuts. I have to laugh about it. It's just wild. >>> Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening >>> letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >worse. He is accusing me of posting via other emails, and I do not ever >do that. It is totally nuts. I have to laugh about it. It's just wild. >>> Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening >>> letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >worse. He is accusing me of posting via other emails, and I do not ever >do that. It is totally nuts. I have to laugh about it. It's just wild. Several of these posts have been empty. All the old stuff is quoted, but nothing new. Is there a problem with the posting? It only seems to be from some people. The last five empties were from: Anepanigas, Bulle, Aphersiry, Bingly, and Thruts. Are other people seeing new text from them, or do you just get the quoted material also? Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >Several of these posts have been empty. All the old stuff is quoted, >but nothing new. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Are other people seeing new text from them, or do you just get the >quoted material also? It is just someone being an idiot >>Anepanigas, Bulle, Aphersiry, Bingly, and Thruts. >> >>Are other people seeing new text from them, or do you just get the >>quoted material also? > >It is just someone being an idiot Thanks. I just figured they were real people from the rpca group, and the posts just weren't working right. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >>>Anepanigas, Bulle, Aphersiry, Bingly, and Thruts. >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Equine and Pet Photography > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com Probably equalizer in a lot of cases. The headers look similar to his. > >>>Anepanigas, Bulle, Aphersiry, Bingly, and Thruts. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Probably equalizer in a lot of cases. The headers look similar to his. Why...lets just ask EQ EQ? Can you show me how to do that? I have a few ideas, I'd like to implement. Hoo Haa! >> >>>Anepanigas, Bulle, Aphersiry, Bingly, and Thruts. >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >I have a few ideas, I'd like to implement. >Hoo Haa! Just a stupid little utility I found: http://www.gammadyne.com/rndword.htm You'll have to excuse me, sometimes cheap thrills are worth a few laughs. I'm done now. This thing is pretty cool -- it even comes with a random insult generator: >Stanky Oversensitive Blathering Whale Of A Woman >Offensive Carpet-Licking Husky Sociopath [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Barnyard-Buggering Revolting Flatulent Piece Of sh.t >Inferior Self-Destructive Gullible Psychopath This could revolutionize flame wars! Thanks alot for asking me about this thing, Barry. I was just about to have a little fun with the insult generator, and now you spoiled it, you Muff-Diving Softheaded Inexperienced Geezer.You're such an emaciated failure, you noisome Rectum-Riding Cocky Sack Of sh.t. Geezus! Such a bellyaching fruitcake Rectum-Reaming Poor Gerbal-Loving Pillow-Biter could never be any more than a Surly Showboating Bombastic Butt-Pirate! > >> >>>Anepanigas, Bulle, Aphersiry, Bingly, and Thruts. > >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > Rectum-Reaming Poor Gerbal-Loving Pillow-Biter could never be any more > than a Surly Showboating Bombastic Butt-Pirate! LOL Looks like premature ejaculation to me! Damn if you didn't blow your wad, all in one post too! *big congested crone laugh > >> >>>Anepanigas, Bulle, Aphersiry, Bingly, and Thruts. > >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > Rectum-Reaming Poor Gerbal-Loving Pillow-Biter could never be any more > than a Surly Showboating Bombastic Butt-Pirate! Butt pirate!! hahaha! I love this thing. > Several of these posts have been empty. All the old stuff is quoted, > but nothing new. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Equine and Pet Photography > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com I've been seeing a lot of posts like that the last few days. W > > Several of these posts have been empty. All the old stuff is quoted, > > but nothing new. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > W OMG, it's my ISP, they are stalking me notice where they are on the tree <cough cough> Let's keep it clean, keep it clean > I've been seeing a lot of posts like that the last few days. > > W It is somebody quoting people who have been killfiled in rpca - to try to defeat the killfiles. They are doing it as a "service". Slime trail of equalizer. -L. > > I've been seeing a lot of posts like that the last few days. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -L. Lets hope so. That bunch, their over there sipping on, embalming fluid coctails RIGHT NEXT DOOR...<sshiiivvverrr> gives me the wilies! Yes, I get just the quoted stuff. Sounds like someone too lazy to come up with something negative on their own, so they just post and re-post something old. Probably the same person also. SignatureShirley B., Rexie's Mom To Reply by email: remove 'nick' Pictures of His Majesty, Rex are at: http://community.webshots.com/album/255873683SwWQZJ AND OUR HOMEPAGE: http://jumi-shirley-butler.com > Several of these posts have been empty. All the old stuff is quoted, > but nothing new. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Equine and Pet Photography > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com > Yes, I get just the quoted stuff. Sounds like someone too lazy to come up > with something negative on their own, so they just post and re-post [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Equine and Pet Photography > > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com It's not EQ I suspect JD >> Yes, I get just the quoted stuff. Sounds like someone too lazy to come up >> with something negative on their own, so they just post and re-post [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > I suspect JD nope EQ > Yes, I get just the quoted stuff. Sounds like someone too lazy to come up > with something negative on their own, so they just post and re-post [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Equine and Pet Photography > > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com Because the user names (some of them) also have a little opnion in them > Several of these posts have been empty. All the old stuff is quoted, > but nothing new. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Equine and Pet Photography > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com It is an attempt to get around killfiles. > > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening > > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > W My guess is Dan finally grew balls and fessed up because the pressure is too much for him. He has no idea what to do with Conan. Monica can't help much being in Canada and as he said he's got stuff happening (real or imaginary). He needs his bumbuddies over at rpca to nurse him, but that's difficult when the storms are brewing. So, instead of being a man and saying listen guys I messed up, I got caught up in a dirty scheme but I'll do what's right now, he concocted a bullshit story about threatening phone calls and e-mails. Spineless. Who knows maybe he's in need of more cash for whatnot and is having a pity party of one in hopes that donations will start flying his way again. It must be hard being pimped out to do someone else's dirty work for free. >> > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening >> > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > for > free. Who wants to start a new fund? The Get Dan Mental Help for his Pathological Lying Fund. I pledge $200. :) > Who wants to start a new fund? The Get Dan Mental Help for his > Pathological Lying Fund. > > I pledge $200. > > :) 26 posts in this thread alone - and God knows how many in others here and at H+B. YOU, my dear, are the one who needs mental help. Desperately. -L. >> Who wants to start a new fund? The Get Dan Mental Help for his >> Pathological Lying Fund. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and at H+B. YOU, my dear, are the one who needs mental help. > Desperately. You keep telling me that. I wonder what Jonathan will think about you when he reads this material? >>> Who wants to start a new fund? The Get Dan Mental Help for his >>> Pathological Lying Fund. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > You keep telling me that. I wonder what Jonathan will think about you when > he reads this material? Mary ... it is indicative of your unbalanced mental state that makes you lash out at Lyn's innocent child when Lyn takes a poke at you directly. In other words, Lyn does not take cheap shots at your children (assuming you have children). You are a pathetic coward. > 26 posts in this thread alone - and God knows how many in others here > and at H+B. YOU, my dear, are the one who needs mental help. > Desperately. P.S. This makes 28. I really love to think of you counting them. The really great thing about you, Lynnie, is that all I have to do to make you unravel is keep posting whenever and however much I feel like it. No matter how many filthy things you say, no matter what. Everything should be so simple. :) > > 26 posts in this thread alone - and God knows how many in others here > > and at H+B. YOU, my dear, are the one who needs mental help. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I feel like it. No matter how many filthy things you say, no matter > what. Thank you, Mary, for confirming the suspicion that you are getting great personal pleasure of belaboring this issue. The second paragraph, indeed, is especially indicative of how this must be satisfying, since apparently it gives you a sense of power and invulnerability you must long for otherwise. Of course, Nocturne REALLY has those qualities. Still, there is a fine example from AA Milne and the Kingston Trio, of one who thinks they have the power you, of course, possess: James James Morrison Morrison Weatherby George DuPree Took great care of his mother though he was only three James James said to his mother: "Mother," he said, said he "You must never go down to the end of the town, if you don't go down with me. Don't ever go down to the end of the town, if you don't go down with me." James James Morrison's mother put on her golden gown James James Morrison's mother, she drove to the end of the town James James Morrison's mother She said to herself, said she "Well, I can get down to the end of the town And be back in time for tea. Well, I can get down to the end of the town And be back in time for tea." King John put up a notice: "Lost, stolen or strayed, James James Morrison's mother, She seems to have been mislaid Wandering vaguely all about quite of her own accord She tried to get down to the end of the town-- Forty shillings reward. She tried to get down to the end of the town-- Forty shillings reward. James James Morrison Morrison, commonly known as "Jim" Said to his other relations not to go blaming him For James James said to his mother "Mother", he said, said he "Don't ever go down to the end of the town, If you don't go down with me. You must never go down to the end of the town, If you don't go down with me." Now James James Morrison's mother, She hasn't been heard of since, King John sent down to give his regrets, And so did the queen and the prince, King John, somebody told me, Said to a man he knew, "If people go down to the end of the town, Well what can anyone do? If people go down to the end of the town, Well what can anyone do?" >> > 26 posts in this thread alone - and God knows how many in others here >> > and at H+B. YOU, my dear, are the one who needs mental help. [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > If people go down to the end of the town, > Well what can anyone do?" You have entirely too much time on your hands, Howard. Great, isn't it? :) > > Who wants to start a new fund? The Get Dan Mental Help for his > > Pathological Lying Fund. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -L. Mary's a pathological poster. The more she posts, the more posts she gets back; the more posts she gets back, the more she needs. She's like Audrey, the man eating plant from The Little Shop of Horrors. FEED ME FEED ME and the more she feeds, the bigger a monster she becomes. Alison > > > Who wants to start a new fund? The Get Dan Mental Help for his > > > Pathological Lying Fund. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > she becomes. > Alison Wow. It's uncanny. You are absolutely right. And terribly brilliant. :) >> Who wants to start a new fund? The Get Dan Mental Help for his >> Pathological Lying Fund. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -L. Bloody Mary is now the poster bitch for deranged cat ladies. Isn't there a doll out there patterned after her? LOL > > > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening > > > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > again. It must be hard being pimped out to do someone else's dirty work for > free. Yeah, and then he embellished the lie, with His Mom is dying from unknown disease. Yep. > Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening > letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop > communicating. That was BEFORE the (OMG *GASP* NO) resuce of Conan from > the > KILL shelter. If you are going to kiss and tell. Tell all yourself. Will you use your bubble head for a minute, Chuplis? Why would anyone in our group make threatening calls or emails to Dan before the rescue? We were all grateful to him for volunteering to get the cat. This is yet another very bad and very unbelievable lie that Dan is laying on us. >> Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening >> letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > This is yet another very bad and very unbelievable lie that Dan is laying > on us. If I read correctly, Dan isn't laying this on anyone. The OP are making assumptions. "And since I can't be absolutely sure who is responsible for the threatening messages, I'm just not sharing info with anyone" W >If I read correctly, Dan isn't laying this on anyone. The OP are making >assumptions. > >"And since I can't be absolutely sure who is responsible for the threatening >messages, I'm just not sharing info with anyone" Perhaps he shoudl have somebody look into and track it down. It sounds like it would be very interesting to know who was threatening him. Nobody in Mary's group had any reason to since it seemed to be going as planned. It had to be somebody who wanted to stop the plan. Tell Dan to ask to report it to his phone company. Especially, if there are more than 3 calls. That will take it to the police, and they can find out who really did make those calls. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >>If I read correctly, Dan isn't laying this on anyone. The OP are making >>assumptions. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > there are more than 3 calls. That will take it to the police, and they > can find out who really did make those calls. I agree. Dan has my telephone number, and has heard my voice as I called him and spoke with him, at his invitation. I am very interested to know who called him and threatened him. I'd like to see those threatening emails, too. >>If I read correctly, Dan isn't laying this on anyone. The OP are making >>assumptions. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Nobody in Mary's group had any reason to since it seemed to be going > as planned. It had to be somebody who wanted to stop the plan. snip > -- > Meghan & the Zoo Crew > Equine and Pet Photography > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com Rubbish. You better START with Bloody Mary and The Minions! >Rubbish. You better START with Bloody Mary and The Minions! What's the motive? Why would somebody threaten another person if they thought they were working together on a plan? That makes no sense. I see motive for after the plan went south. But not before. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >>Rubbish. You better START with Bloody Mary and The Minions! > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -- All of my communications with Dan have been aboveboard, and all have been cordial--even after the fact. >>> Rubbish. You better START with Bloody Mary and The Minions! >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > All of my communications with Dan have been aboveboard, and all > have been cordial--even after the fact. Only to prove in print that you are two faced backstabber. That Mary can turn on a dime is an understatement. Bipolar. > >If I read correctly, Dan isn't laying this on anyone. The OP are making > >assumptions. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Nobody in Mary's group had any reason to since it seemed to be going > as planned. It had to be somebody who wanted to stop the plan. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out it was Philip. I remember all his nasty posts when the rescue idea was first started, telling Mary and others that they would fail to rescue Conan, etc. >> If I read correctly, Dan isn't laying this on anyone. The OP are making >> assumptions. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > there are more than 3 calls. That will take it to the police, and they > can find out who really did make those calls. I work for a phone company. It requires a court order to get a trap on a line and then only calls after that can be tracked without a great deal of effort. Trust me, probably no sheriff or judge would issue an order on this account unless it became chronic. Everyone thinks this is such a simple procedure because of TV. It really is not and it requires some cost. >I work for a phone company. It requires a court order to get a trap on a >line and then only calls after that can be tracked without a great deal of >effort. Trust me, probably no sheriff or judge would issue an order on this >account unless it became chronic. Everyone thinks this is such a simple >procedure because of TV. It really is not and it requires some cost. Very interesting. Several years ago, shortly after I got my new phone line, I had somebody calling me every day, thinking I was somebody else. I told them several times to look up my name in the phone book, call the phone company, whatever. Just verify that this is *my* phone number, not the person you are looking for, and leave me alone. I complained to the phone company, and they told me to do the *69 three times and then let them know. If it was the same phone number 3 times, they would take care of it for me. They took care of it. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >>I work for a phone company. It requires a court order to get a trap on a >>line and then only calls after that can be tracked without a great deal of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > three times and then let them know. If it was the same phone number 3 > times, they would take care of it for me. They took care of it. You know, the only person I have heard of making nasty calls in this group has been the other Megan. Zuzu22@webtv.net. She has been terribly quiet lately, too. Hmmm. >>account unless it became chronic. Everyone thinks this is |
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