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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2005tortoiseshell cats....
Are there any common traits or qualities among tortoiseshell cats that people have found? Thanks in advance. Gail When I first got my tortie and took her to the vet for a checkup, the vet said "oh torties, they can be cranky." But nothing could be further from the truth. Meesha is a real purr machine and lap cat. Lauren See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe > When I first got my tortie and took her to the vet for a checkup, the > vet said "oh torties, they can be cranky." But nothing could be > further from the truth. Meesha is a real purr machine and lap cat. Mine was cranky--but her daughter, another tortoiseshell, was very sweet. > Mine was cranky The poor kitty must have learned from her owner!!! :)~ I noticed and heard that torties (and calico's to a lesser extent) are nice with poeple but are very grouchy with other kitties. Mybe so... Have fun, Karl. >> Mine was cranky > > The poor kitty must have learned from her owner!!! :)~ snip > I noticed and heard that torties (and calico's to a lesser extent) are > nice with poeple but are very grouchy with other kitties. Mybe so... > > Have fun, Karl. Hahahahhah. > Are there any common traits or qualities among tortoiseshell > cats that people have found? Thanks in advance. > Gail Well, first, they're all females. LOL I've found that female cats are different from males in that they are a little whacko at times. But, any that I've had experience with have been rescued from the wild and recently spayed. What they've had to go through would make any little female (tortie, tabbie, solid white or solid black, etc) a little defensive. Those that have been taken in before any heat cycles may act differently, though I've seen my Scarlett (tabby, rescued at ~5 weeks) act just as whacky and aggressive towards the others. Male, female, bigger, older.... she doesn't care.  SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > Are there any common traits or qualities among tortoiseshell cats that > people have found? Thanks in advance. > Gail YES! (And my vet agrees that the tortoiseshells she see are like this). *Very* Feisty Playful Clownish Domineering (she would be the alpha cat in our house if "The Bitch Cat From Hell" didn't live here too) Smart/Clever/Curious (she can open door, cabinets, drawers and figure out how to get at what she wants) Independent Hugs, CatNipped >> Are there any common traits or qualities among tortoiseshell cats that >> people have found? Thanks in advance. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > how to get at what she wants) > Independent My Gnarly was all of these things except smart. She really missed on that one. > >> Are there any common traits or qualities among tortoiseshell cats that > >> people have found? Thanks in advance. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > My Gnarly was all of these things except smart. She really missed on that > one. Aw, you don't know that - she may have been hiding her light under a bushel! After all, who was feeding whom and who was scooping whose poop???! ;> > >> Are there any common traits or qualities among tortoiseshell cats that > >> people have found? Thanks in advance. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > My Gnarly was all of these things except smart. She really missed on that > one. Sorry, hit "Send" before I meant to... Aw, you don't know that - she may have been hiding her light under a bushel! After all, who was feeding whom and who was scooping whose poop???! ;> Now I forgot what else I was going to say! LOL!!! It's been a loooooong day and I need to go get some sleep! Hugs, CatNipped >>> Are there any common traits or qualities among tortoiseshell cats that >>> people have found? Thanks in advance. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > My Gnarly was all of these things except smart. She really missed on that > one. Had to have been the grotesque environment. > > My Gnarly was all of these things except smart. She really missed on that > one. >>> Mary wins first prize for Owner Most Like Her Cat. Alison >> > My Gnarly was all of these things except smart. She really missed > on that >> one. >>> > > Mary wins first prize for Owner Most Like Her Cat. > Alison Now that was damned near witty, Alison! Good for you! :) > " >> Now that was damned near witty, Alison! Good for you! > :) Thanks <G> It's not a ten but it's not bad.:) Alison >>> My Gnarly was all of these things except smart. She really missed > on that >> one. >>> > > Mary wins first prize for Owner Most Like Her Cat. > Alison Euthanize Euthanize > Are there any common traits or qualities among tortoiseshell cats that > people have found? Thanks in advance. > Gail A lot of people think torties are cranky and tempermental. I'm not sure if they are moreso than other color cats. I've met some really sweet torties, like my own Toffee. When I took her to the vet the first time, the vet and the tech were so amazed at how friendly she is. -Kelly Thanks for all of the responses. I am thinking of adding another cat to my household and am conflicted between a young female tortoiseshell kitten and a young all black male kitten. I currently have a neutered, 2 year old male cat who is very rambunctuous, playful, loves people, and is very bright. He has "dog like" qualities (ie loves to lick). Any thoughts? Thanks again. > Are there any common traits or qualities among tortoiseshell cats that > people have found? Thanks in advance. > Gail > Thanks for all of the responses. I am thinking of adding another cat to my > household and am conflicted between a young female tortoiseshell kitten and > a young all black male kitten. I currently have a neutered, 2 year old male > cat who is very rambunctuous, playful, loves people, and is very bright. He > has "dog like" qualities (ie loves to lick). Any thoughts? Thanks again. I will bet your cat will get along with a male better than a female tortie. Torties are the Snickers Cats: half sweet, half nuts. -L. >> Thanks for all of the responses. I am thinking of adding another cat to >> my household and am conflicted between a young female tortoiseshell [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -L. Lyn: The litter Omar was part of had two Torties. Omar has 'brown tabby' stripings but clearly he's got the same three colors present in a Tortie. Neat disposition. <SNIP> >> I will bet your cat will get along with a male better than a female >> tortie. Torties are the Snickers Cats: half sweet, half nuts. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >stripings but clearly he's got the same three colors present in a Tortie. >Neat disposition. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Lucky for him........ > <SNIP> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Lucky for him........ Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad behavior. > > <SNIP> > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad behavior. Who said that! FRONT AND CENTER! > Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad behavior. Hah. It's a good thing your kitten can't read your posts, where you DO model bad behavior. >> Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad behavior. > > Hah. It's a good thing your kitten can't read your posts, where you DO > model bad behavior. Ah ... she who stands in judgement as if she were God. Get over yourself, honey. >>>Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad behavior. >> >>Hah. It's a good thing your kitten can't read your posts, where you DO >>model bad behavior. > > Ah ... she who stands in judgement as if she were God. Hardly. It's the truth! > Get over yourself, > honey. Likewise!!!!!!!!!! > >>>Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad behavior. > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Likewise!!!!!!!!!! You two sure are having an Continental moment Another Biscuit Ma'm? Sir? More Juice? What lovely cats! *Philip looks up all mean at me...I say I'll get your check! >>>>> Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad behavior. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > I'll get your check! A tablespoon of Petromalt for the "lady." >>>>>>Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad behavior. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > A tablespoon of Petromalt for the "lady." A cup of prune juice for the "gentleman." > >>>>>>Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad behavior. > >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > A cup of prune juice for the "gentleman." hehehe Here ya go! Here ya go! ~~~ *Lays the check down and asks the gentlemen "I see you didn't finish, would you like a doggie bag, for that plate of crow sir?" *Rubs his belly with both hands...and gargles out the words..."N-a-a-a-h! I've had enough!" > > >>>>>>Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad > behavior. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > *Rubs his belly with both hands...and gargles out the words..."N-a-a-a-h! > I've had enough!" Spews feathers as he munches humble pie with a side dish of the crow topped with bitter lemon gags as the truth is know he knew sh.t then he knows sh.t now yet he still spews sh.t realizing the cat is out of the bag so to speak his threesome is revealed for the lies they proclaimed not then, not now was he in the know dance a jig little pig your ignorance astounds >> > >>>>>>Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad >> behavior. [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > dance a jig little pig > your ignorance astounds And I get to say "I told you so." Every gd thing I have been saying for two weeks is true. And Dan was actually stupid enough to admit it. ALL he had to do is keep his mouth shut and Lynnie and Philip could keep jeering at us forever. LOL!!! > >> > >>>>>>Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad > >> behavior. [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > to do is keep his mouth shut and Lynnie and Philip could keep > jeering at us forever. LOL!!! LOL and it's Wednesday ... hump day! we can hump their moronic messages to hell and back lol rubbing my hands in glee that yes dammit you've been proven right! >>> > >>>>>>Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad >>> behavior. [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > to do is keep his mouth shut and Lynnie and Philip could keep > jeering at us forever. LOL!!! Oh those two will keep it up because it suits them. I never expected to be a Mary defender. I honestly find your posting style to be "abrasive" - as is your right. However, I have to respect you for putting your money where your mouth is and expending a lot of time and effort to get Conan rescued. It doesn't matter at this point who actually picked him up. If you and a few others hadn't gotten the ball rolling I don't think those who have control of him now would have lifted a finger and he would still be under a death sentence if not dead already. My only concern at this point is that cat sitting somewhere and not being shown to prospective adopters. If he's at a boarding facility they do 0 adoptions. So they are depending totally on newspaper ads to garner interest. W >>>> > >>>>>>Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad >>>> behavior. [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > > W You have made a couple of sweeping generalities and assumptions. > > > >>>>>>Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad > > behavior. [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > dance a jig little pig > your ignorance astounds buy me some lunch we'll sit and munch (cyber-lunch) Philip is rare even with no hair his shoes are too tight it's Mary he wants to fight he'd hit a girl for now, only words he can hurl wickety wickety whack watcha say, comeback > > > > >>>>>>Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad > > > behavior. [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > wickety wickety whack > watcha say, comeback turns up his hearing aid what's that you say too many prunes will make him decay they tighten the restraints that hold him still another enema another daily thrill three shots of valium to bring him down his loud racist mouth can be heard over town alzheimers has struck his poor dear wife she's happy and content no memories of her sorry life with toothless and dull insults meant to enflame a nobody in life what a crying shame tic tac toe... on with the show... > > > > > >>>>>>Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad > > > > behavior. [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] > > tic tac toe... on with the show... One potatoe two potatoe coming back for more something outragoes something potent something never said before It's a long and viscous journey this thing they call life poor wifey made it feel like double filled his house with toil and strife bitterness ate the years gone fast, never late now his sun is swiftyly setting it's a fate worse than fate slumped down in a rump sprung bed pulled up covers barely fit icy feet, cold cold heart he cannot feel his a.s dying embers leave ashes Black Cadillacs turn to rust a hollow shell for an old soul Flotage on earths crust. >>>>>>>Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad behavior. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > A cup of prune juice for the "gentleman." Put a CO2 cube and a little water in it. That's the way we made Dr. Pepper before you were born. >>>> Very true. I do not reward bad behavior nor do I model bad behavior. >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Hardly. It's the truth! Only your private truth ... your "value judgement". Until you have something specific to discuss ... take this opportunity to be silent. > Until you have something specific to discuss ... take this opportunity to be > silent. And let you be the only one to make snide remarks constantly? I think not. >> Until you have something specific to discuss ... take this opportunity to >> be silent. > > And let you be the only one to make snide remarks constantly? I think not. True, you think not. Well, maybe a little when I tell you what to think. > Lyn: The litter Omar was part of had two Torties. Omar has 'brown tabby' > stripings but clearly he's got the same three colors present in a Tortie. > Neat disposition. Is Omar male? Torties are all female, and they're wacky. I have never met one that wasn't. My Mimi is a tortie, and she's just so quirky. Tabbies in general tend to be rambunctious, but friendly. I'm not partial to them, but I have known some pretty cool tabbies. -L. >> Lyn: The litter Omar was part of had two Torties. Omar has 'brown >> tabby' stripings but clearly he's got the same three colors present in a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -L. Indeed the two Torties were female. Omar was the only male in a litter of five. He is a rambunctious and very energetic kitten but more than that, he is persistent, not easily deterred. So far, he's acclimated to claw trimming and wash cloth baths quite well. Now if you have a way to get him to stop kneeding and sucking on my neck or my wife's arm at 04:30 I'd be real appreciative. ;^) > Indeed the two Torties were female. Omar was the only male in a litter of > five. He is a rambunctious and very energetic kitten but more than that, he > is persistent, not easily deterred. So far, he's acclimated to claw > trimming and wash cloth baths quite well. Now if you have a way to get him > to stop kneeding and sucking on my neck or my wife's arm at 04:30 I'd be > real appreciative. ;^) He may or may not grow out of it. Sometimes it is because they are weaned too young, other times because they are just needy. I got my Mimi a mohair scarf to sleep with when she did this as a baby - it took care of her neediness, but she would knead it and drool - too funny! Be sure to wear him out at night with a CatDancer or other toy. (I highly recommend the CatDancer though.) -L. >> Indeed the two Torties were female. Omar was the only male in a litter of >> five. He is a rambunctious and very energetic kitten but more than [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > -L. Weaned too young. OC Shelter claimed Omar was 8 weeks but of course that does not indicate when he was actually deprived of momma's teat. We tried him on a bottle but that was a flop and he disdains canned kitten food but likes dry kitten food. So now we move on to psychological "need.". Hmmm. Omar does want to be close to anybody sitting or lying still. I've taught him to fetch paper balls and bring them back. That keeps him occupied for the morning hours while I'm on the computer. A "cat dancer". Petco/PetSmart item? I'll look into that. Thanks Oh... I caught Omar paddling the toilet bowl waters this morning. I forgot to put the lid down (return of old house rule). He did not fall in the bowl (@ four pounds, he's big enough to extricate himself) but .... what's the fascination when there is nothing floating in there for him to swat around? Don't even want to broach the sanitation angle, thankyouverymuch. You may recall my preference for an active cat during the Bengal inquiries. Omar fits the temperament and activity bill just about right. We're looking at some floor-2-ceiling cat furniture for this one. > Thanks for all of the responses. I am thinking of adding another cat to > my household and am conflicted between a young female tortoiseshell [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > thoughts? Thanks again. > Gail When my Riley (male tabby) turned one, his birthday present was a new little tortie sister, named Sukey. It only took him 2 weeks to be totally smitten. They played together really well and taught each other their tricks. Riley is something of a dandy - he grooms himself a lot and doesn't like one hair out of place, so he immediately started grooming Sukey, too. She'd walk by, and he'd scoop her in and wash her face and ears until she was practically dripping. Riley is more overtly affectionate with me - meets me at the door and cemands petting, always sleeps by my head. Sukey is more subtle - she meets me at the door, but has special petting spots. She only visits the bed once or twice at night, but does most of her sleeping elsewhere in the room. I've heard that torties don't like to be held, and that's true of Sukey. She'll come and sit on me, but doesn't want me to carry her around. Riley is the opposite. He'll jump over me rather than set one foot on me, but loves me to pick him up and carry him around. Based on my experience, a tortie girl is a great companion for a dog-like boy., Thanks!! Such a cute story of your two. I put in a message to see if she is still available for adoption!! Gail >> Thanks for all of the responses. I am thinking of adding another cat to >> my household and am conflicted between a young female tortoiseshell [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > him up and carry him around. Based on my experience, a tortie girl is a > great companion for a dog-like boy., > Are there any common traits or qualities among tortoiseshell cats that > people have found? Thanks in advance. Mostly they're female cats. That's about all they have in common. My baby is a bit cranky, bit it's not often. Mostly she's playful and fiesty. > Are there any common traits or qualities among tortoiseshell cats that > people have found? Thanks in advance. I've had two torties... first one was sweet and needy, second one is incredibly playful and a little crazy. Nothing in common but sex and color :) -- Jennifer > Are there any common traits or qualities among tortoiseshell cats that > people have found? Thanks in advance. Mine was the sweetest cat ever, but I've heard others say theirs were, ummm, less than sweet. :) SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.diaryland.com/ |
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