Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2005
Cystitis
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jmc - 12 Jul 2005 05:01 GMT It's 5:00am here, and my cat is having a Cystitis attack, clearly blood in her urine this time. Vet appt is at 9am; they say it's not life threatening, and it's *really* expensive to do out of hours visits).
Is there anything I can do to help her until we can get to the vet?
jmc
Rhonda - 12 Jul 2005 05:26 GMT Hi JMC,
Sorry your cat is sick. Do you have sub-q fluids at home? Any way to get your cat to drink more water right away?
I don't know a lot about cystitis, it's been years since we had a cat with an attack. How is she acting?
I think if I had a cat in that situation and a vet I trusted said it's okay to wait a few hours, and she wasn't in immense pain, I'd probably wait. My experience at the emergency vets is you usually have to wait an hour or more anyway.
Good luck, let us know how she's doing,
Rhonda
> It's 5:00am here, and my cat is having a Cystitis attack, clearly blood > in her urine this time. Vet appt is at 9am; they say it's not life [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > jmc jmc - 12 Jul 2005 05:52 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Rhonda exclaimed (12-Jul-05 5:29 AM):
>> It's 5:00am here, and my cat is having a Cystitis attack, clearly >> blood in her urine this time. Vet appt is at 9am; they say it's not [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Rhonda Thanks. No subq. Best I could do is lock her in the bathroom with some water (since otherwise, she's trying boots, and corners, etc). She's obviously uncomfortable, and only able to pee a drop at a time - she's had one other attack, this one's much worse.
This isn't an emergency vet, this is my regular vet, and I could have called her in if I wanted - but as she's really expensive in the first place, the callout cost is much, much higher (been there, done that), so I wanted to go during normal hours, if it doesn't hurt Meep. I don't think anything they do gives immediate relief anyway. At least, it didn't last time.
Thanks for your advice. It's just difficult to see her distressed, and not do anything.
jmc
Alison - 12 Jul 2005 09:09 GMT > It's 5:00am here, and my cat is having a Cystitis attack, clearly blood > in her urine this time. Vet appt is at 9am; they say it's not life [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > jmc>> I can't think of anything, sorry. I hope she will be ok . Its a horrible situation to be in. My cat suffers from this and the waiting seems endless. Alison
jmc - 12 Jul 2005 16:56 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Alison exclaimed (12-Jul-05 9:09 AM):
>>It's 5:00am here, and my cat is having a Cystitis attack, clearly > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > seems endless. > Alison Followup question:
How long after treatment should she find some relief? She was given an antibiotic and antiinflammatory at around 9am. It's now nearly 5pm, and unless she's been really good at finding a corner, she hasn't gone yet. I'm waiting as I need to bring a sample to the vet, so they can figure out what sort of crystals she has (couldn't get a sample this morning).
Vet said to call at 6 if she hasn't gone yet, but she normally goes only in the early morning, and may be 'holding it' expecting to be let outside, or because she really doesn't like the tiny pile of nonabsorbent 'perls' in her box in lieu of the deep litter she prefers.
jmc
Alison - 12 Jul 2005 18:22 GMT > Followup question: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > jmc>>> Kim's last bout was over a year ago AFAIR she would stop running around and straining with in a couple of hours. She would probably do a golf ball size wee 5 or 6 hours after seeing the vet. I think by the time she got to the vet she was all peed out from the straining and doing small pees so I didn't expect her to do much more weeing. I wouldn't worry if you can't get a urine sample for the vet yet, it can be done later. I think if this were me, I would put back her old litter to encourage her . She is probably upset with being in pain and going to the vet and I think its more important that she wees in her old litter than not wee at all. Its important she gets lots of moisture. Is she on a dry diet? Soak it if she is . If she is on canned, add a little water to it. Is she more settled and less agitated now ? I hope so.
There is a stoneforming cat group you can join, its a bit quiet but you can read up past posts for information
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/stone_forming_cats_2/?yguid=155021439
Alison
jmc - 12 Jul 2005 18:29 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Alison exclaimed (12-Jul-05 6:22 PM):
>>Followup question: >> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Alison Thanks. Yea, she has no interest in the litterbox at all, so I think she's fine. I'll probably offer a second litterbox in a slightly unusual place with her usual litter, just to avoid 'accidents'. The vet's in a long consultation just now, she's supposed to call me when she's done, help me decide if I should be worried. My instincts say I shouldn't be though, and I'm a very paranoid cat mommy :)
I *will* be worried if she hasn't peed by the time we wake up tomorrow, though...
I keep her on as much canned/wet food as she'll eat, and she gets some free-choice dry. Needed, because of her teeth (don't you love health issues with competing treatments?) Also, she won't touch it if it's even damp. I've tried her 100% wet, but she'd rather starve than eat a food she doesn't like...
Thanks for your feedback. This is very stressful for both of us, we're both learning how to deal with this.
jmc
Alison - 12 Jul 2005 18:47 GMT >. The > vet's in a long consultation just now, she's supposed to call me when > she's done, help me decide if I should be worried. My instincts say I > shouldn't be though, and I'm a very paranoid cat mommy :)>>. I think most of us are the same:) It's hard not to worry and its best to be on the safe side.
>> I *will* be worried if she hasn't peed by the time we wake up tomorrow,
> though... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > even damp. I've tried her 100% wet, but she'd rather starve than eat a > food she doesn't like...>>> My vet gave me dental chews but Kim wouldnt eat them:( so her teeth will probably have to be cleaned soon, the first time since I've had her. She has Feline idiopathic cystitis. I just daren't give Kim dried food . She has a GAG supplement Cystease to line her bladder and a Feliway diffuser .
> Thanks for your feedback. This is very stressful for both of us, we're > both learning how to deal with this.>> I know how you feel! Hopefully, she will be better soon and you'll be able to take steps to prevent it happening again. Are you in the UK? Alison
> jmc>> jmc - 12 Jul 2005 18:59 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Alison exclaimed (12-Jul-05 6:47 PM):
She has a GAG supplement Cystease to line her bladder and
> a Feliway diffuser . What, exactly, is that? Meep's on Glucosamine...
> Are you in the UK? Yes. Why?
jmc
Alison - 12 Jul 2005 19:59 GMT > Suddenly, without warning, Alison exclaimed (12-Jul-05 6:47 PM): > > > > What, exactly, is that? Meep's on Glucosamine...>> It's the same. Its just easier to say GAG <G> This is the actual supplemnt she has . I get it from my local vet. http://www.parkvets.com/microsite/flutdgag.html
> > Are you in the UK? > > Yes. Why?>> Me too:)
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jmc - 12 Jul 2005 21:03 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Alison exclaimed (12-Jul-05 7:59 PM):
>>Suddenly, without warning, Alison exclaimed (12-Jul-05 6:47 PM): >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Me too:) I think this may be the product - or something extremely similar - that Meep was prescribed last time. Fortunately, the vet thinks that the version made for joints will work. This is what I've been giving her (she's predisposed to arthritis due to really bad hocks, and luxating patellas). As I'm an American posted here, I get my stuff from http://www.drsfostersmith.com/.
At any rate, she's doing fine this evening. Hasn't used either box (I did set up a second box with her normal litter, but set it in the tub), but seems content, if a bit sore. If there's still nothing tomorrow (most likely out of stubbornness), I'll make another vet appt, they've got ways of making her pee :)
She is quite put out I haven't let her outside though...
jmc
Jean B. - 12 Jul 2005 23:31 GMT > Suddenly, without warning, Alison exclaimed (12-Jul-05 7:59 PM): > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > jmc WHEN did she last pee? WHY do you think it is cystitis and not crystals/a stone and a blockage, which is life-threatening?
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jmc - 13 Jul 2005 06:17 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Jean B. exclaimed (12-Jul-05 11:31 PM):
>> Suddenly, without warning, Alison exclaimed (12-Jul-05 7:59 PM): >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > WHEN did she last pee? WHY do you think it is cystitis and not > crystals/a stone and a blockage, which is life-threatening? This morning, around 3am. 'Cause the doctor said so, and because this has happened before.
jmc
Jean B. - 13 Jul 2005 15:07 GMT > Suddenly, without warning, Jean B. exclaimed (12-Jul-05 11:31 PM): > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > jmc Just checking. So much of my rpch+b time is taken up by the Conan saga that I undoubtedly missed this.
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jmc - 13 Jul 2005 18:53 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Jean B. exclaimed (13-Jul-05 3:07 PM):
>> Suddenly, without warning, Jean B. exclaimed (12-Jul-05 11:31 PM):
>>> WHEN did she last pee? WHY do you think it is cystitis and not >>> crystals/a stone and a blockage, which is life-threatening? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Just checking. So much of my rpch+b time is taken up by the Conan saga > that I undoubtedly missed this. Yea, I'm considering adding "subject: conan; body:conan" to my kill filters. Would reduce the messages down to almost nothing. I'm just ignoring them now, since it's degenerated basically to name-calling and he-did-she-did.
Anyway, she's just fine now (whew!). At least till the next time :(
jmc
Jean B. - 14 Jul 2005 02:52 GMT > Yea, I'm considering adding "subject: conan; body:conan" to my kill > filters. Would reduce the messages down to almost nothing. I'm just [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > jmc I'm glad she's okay. I am just sensitive to pee issues now, since Mingy was blocked and had crystals in January....
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Alison - 13 Jul 2005 14:34 GMT > WHEN did she last pee? WHY do you think it is cystitis and > not crystals/a stone and a blockage, which is life-threatening? I would think if she were blocked she would still be straining and being restless. Alison
Alison - 13 Jul 2005 14:40 GMT > > I think this may be the product - or something extremely similar - that
> Meep was prescribed last time. Fortunately, the vet thinks that the > version made for joints will work. This is what I've been giving her > (she's predisposed to arthritis due to really bad hocks, and luxating > patellas). As I'm an American posted here, I get my stuff from > http://www.drsfostersmith.com/.>>. That's a great site. They have lovely cat toys. Did you bring Meep over here on the Pets Passport Scheme. Its sounds like it's a complicated business. I hope Meep is better today . Alison
chas - 13 Jul 2005 15:53 GMT After reading all thru this I now curious....
has she been yet?
chas
jmc - 13 Jul 2005 18:50 GMT Suddenly, without warning, chas exclaimed (13-Jul-05 3:53 PM):
> After reading all thru this I now curious.... > > has she been yet? > > chas Musta missed my earlier. Yup, at 3am this morning. She's back to normal today, doing her usual, "Hi! Let Me Out Now!" when we got home. Last night, it was "I'm under the bed, leave me alone!"
The sample was rather on the pinkish side (expected), I'm still awaiting results. We have a followup on Friday.
jmc
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