Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2005
So let me get this straight... (or yet ANOTHER Conan based thread)
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Justin L - 09 Jul 2005 06:08 GMT ok, not really sure on all the details, but best I can figure out....
Conan was up for some evaluation, possible death.
So people here, sent some guy to get Conan.
He says that when he got there, Conan was gone already.
So, wouldn't you all have been happy if this were the case??
Weren't you all waiting to see if he would get adopted by someone local before acting? (pre-evaluation deadline)
You wouldn't have been getting updates on how he was doing if some stranger had adopted him, would you?
Some cat abusing mental case *could* have adopted him, for crying out loud!
So all the fuss is really kinda silly people.
You had time to act if you REALLY wanted to control what was going to happen to him, and you waited.
Now it is out of your control.
whitershadeofpale - 09 Jul 2005 06:20 GMT > Some cat abusing mental case *could* have adopted him, for crying out > loud! > > So all the fuss is really kinda silly people. http://www.barryparrish.com/HEREYAGO.jpg
This pretty much sums it up dude.
-L. - 09 Jul 2005 11:39 GMT > > Some cat abusing mental case *could* have adopted him, for crying out > > loud! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > This pretty much sums it up dude. Barry, man, ya made me laugh! Out loud. I woke up the snakes.
-L.
Karen - 09 Jul 2005 17:51 GMT >>> Some cat abusing mental case *could* have adopted him, for crying out >>> loud! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -L. OK, I had to save that one. Way too handy.
Justin L - 09 Jul 2005 13:29 GMT >> Some cat abusing mental case *could* have adopted him, for crying out >> loud! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >This pretty much sums it up dude. very good advice, that YOU should consider following...
Mary - 09 Jul 2005 14:14 GMT > >> Some cat abusing mental case *could* have adopted him, for crying out > >> loud! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > very good advice, that YOU should consider following... Well, okay, Barry, that was funny.
Mary - 09 Jul 2005 06:46 GMT > ok, not really sure on all the details, but best I can figure out.... > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Now it is out of your control. *sigh*
You do try, don't you.
Justin L - 09 Jul 2005 13:32 GMT <snip>
>You do try, don't you. No, I do, or do not.
Mary - 09 Jul 2005 14:15 GMT > <snip> > > > >You do try, don't you. > > > No, I do, or do not. Okay.
In this case, you didn't.
Justin L - 09 Jul 2005 20:27 GMT >> <snip> >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >In this case, you didn't. Sure I did.
tracyrose@gmail.com - 09 Jul 2005 07:00 GMT Justin posted:
>k, not really sure on all the details, but best I can figure out...." Nothing like an uninformed opinion :>
>Conan was up for some evaluation, possible death" Yep.
>So people here, sent some guy to get Conan" Yep
>He says that when he got there, Conan was gone already" Yep. Turned out to be a fib.
>So, wouldn't you all have been happy if this were the case??" Depends what happened to him and where he went.
>Weren't you all waiting to see if he would get adopted by someone >local before acting?" Nope. We were waiting (all of TWO DAYS) to see if we had a home for him to go to. The idea was not to move him around for fun, but to place him in a permanent, loving home directly from the shelter. I don't like schlepping cats from one temporary situation to another - it is very stressful for them and the cat had been through enough of it already. Unfortunately, the newsgroup got all wiggy and started calling the shelter and carrying on about people from the Internet going to do this and that and it became necessary to look at taking him out before the adoption interviews could be completed.
>You wouldn't have been getting updates on how he was doing if some >stranger had adopted him, would you? I doubt it.
>Some cat abusing mental case *could* have adopted him, for crying out >loud! Yep.
>So all the fuss is really kinda silly people. Not really. Had the current rescuers stayed out of it, then the cat would already be re-homed, in either what seemed a perfectly sufficient one bedroom condo in San Diego, or with the sister of a regular, respected poster in Washington, or in rural Washington - depending how the interviews shook out. Instead, he's still homeless, and a lot of people's time, energy and good will was wasted - including a travel agent who spent half a day arranging an airpass, a woman who pay-pal'd money across the country to someone she had never met, and three people who tried to open their hearts to a cat in need. I've said over and over again that I don't *think* it's a tragedy - I am assuming someone will *eventually* come along who will meet the lofty standards, or the current custodians will run out of boarding or foster care options and have to find someone acceptable. But I am not going to pretend that it isn't a duplicated effort, an unnecessary effort and a significant delay in the goal of placing the cat in a home of his own.
>You had time to act if you REALLY wanted to control what was going to >happen to him, and you waited. What hopefully was going to happen to him was a nice, smooth transfer into a properly vetted home. Not a long tenure waiting in yet another temporary situation. I didn't want to CONTROL EVERYTHING at the expense of shuffling the cat about to yet another living situation that he would have to adjust to and then lose (or more - depending how long this process goes on. If he's still at the board and care, that would be $140 plus and counting, so he may already have been transferred again or will be shortly). It's annoying to see when it didn't need to happen. And people endlessly carrying on about the incredibly special cat they've never actually met who needs this incredibly large house, turning down homes without a care in the world as if there weren't about a million more cats in the world than there are "acceptable-to-me" homes .... it really doesn't make much sense.
> Now it is out of your control. Yep.
If it had remained in my control, it would be over. But it didn't so .... the saga continues of Conan, the homeless cat.
whitershadeofpale - 09 Jul 2005 07:28 GMT > Justin posted: > > >k, not really sure on all the details, but best I can figure out...." > > Nothing like an uninformed opinion :> what an oppurtunity for you! You get a fresh ear to gnaw on.
Like he's going to read aaaall of that typing. Rest your lungs, sitting up there sputtering, he won't read it, because he don't care! If he cared, he could have posted all last week! Big Ol NuT!
(how'd you come about so much stock in the matter -L. I mean, -T.)
Git your a.s in the bed!
p.s. do you sleep with that puppet on your finger?
=:0>--< yih yih yih
There is no reality, only perception.
-L. - 09 Jul 2005 07:55 GMT > (how'd you come about so much stock in the matter -L. I mean, -T.) > > Git your a.s in the bed! > > p.s. do you sleep with that puppet on your finger? Why don't you ask Mary if Tracy Roseberg (sp?) and I are the same person, LOL.
-L.
-L. - 09 Jul 2005 07:47 GMT > Not really. Had the current rescuers stayed out of it, then the cat > would already be re-homed, in either what seemed a perfectly sufficient > one bedroom condo in San Diego, or with the sister of a regular, > respected poster in Washington, or in rural Washington - depending how > the interviews shook out. If your stupid-a.s friend Mary hadn't posted that the cat was a lost cause then maybe others wouldn't have stepped in. She - and she alone - f.cked up the plan, so quit blaming people who actually DID something rather than sit on their a.ses and let the cat be euthanized. Sheesh.
Secondly, you have no idea if Dan was invoved, where Conan is (boarding facility or otherwise), so stop it with the "poor Conan" BS.
-L.
whitershadeofpale - 09 Jul 2005 12:05 GMT > Secondly, you have no idea if Dan was invoved, where Conan is (boarding > facility or otherwise), so stop it with the "poor Conan" BS. > > -L. You're like one of them Ms Beazley dolls, (the one where you pull the string, it starts talking...)
Cept you pull your OWN string
Philip - 09 Jul 2005 15:08 GMT >> Secondly, you have no idea if Dan was invoved, where Conan is >> (boarding facility or otherwise), so stop it with the "poor [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Cept you pull your OWN string YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has now resorted to personal attacks.
equalizer - 09 Jul 2005 15:13 GMT >>> Secondly, you have no idea if Dan was invoved, where Conan is >>> (boarding facility or otherwise), so stop it with the "poor [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has now >resorted to personal attacks. You've been mixing personal attacks in with your "arguments" from the **VERY** beginning......
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whitershadeofpale - 09 Jul 2005 15:41 GMT > YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has now > resorted to personal attacks. I'm just tryin to keep the peace. We got a runaway train my man.
Find me 1 single post where Lyn has been constuctive and I will stand corrected. Shucks, I'll even apologize.
-L. - 09 Jul 2005 18:36 GMT > > YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has now > > resorted to personal attacks. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Find me 1 single post where Lyn has been constuctive and I will stand > corrected. Shucks, I'll even apologize. Why don't you go back and search the newsgroup for the time period before you and your finger-f.cking tribe showed up.
-L.
whitershadeofpale - 09 Jul 2005 18:52 GMT > Why don't you go back and search the newsgroup for the time period > before you and your finger-f.cking tribe showed up. > > -L. Show me UNO conversation you've had. Show me UNO constructive post you made.
And you got a what?
equalizer - 09 Jul 2005 19:16 GMT >> > YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has now >> > resorted to personal attacks. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >-L. There you go Barry, a constructive post, at least by Lyn's standards. Buck up and apologize......
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Mary - 09 Jul 2005 21:18 GMT > >> > YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has now > >> > resorted to personal attacks. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > There you go Barry, a constructive post, at least by Lyn's standards. > Buck up and apologize...... I think the Mommies liked how Lyn uses the term "finger-f.cking" here. that's constructive. Think there might be any kids reading the cat groups?
Mary - 09 Jul 2005 20:22 GMT > > > YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has now > > > resorted to personal attacks. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -L. mary - 09 Jul 2005 20:35 GMT UGH FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS SACRED PLEASE STOP CROSSPOSTING! NO ONE CARES.
> > > > YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has now > > > > resorted to personal attacks. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > -L. whitershadeofpale - 09 Jul 2005 21:25 GMT > > > > YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has now > > > > resorted to personal attacks. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > -L. RFLMAO
whitershadeofpale - 09 Jul 2005 21:37 GMT > Why don't you go back and search the newsgroup for the time period > before you and your finger-f.cking tribe showed up. > > -L. Wow! You have been constructive.
Helping new mothers get their figures back by way of multiple Orgasmsss. I mean, what else can fingering lead to...besides a good ol stinky finger.
I know they appreciate it! More than you know!
You forgot to tell them, "For a good time, just Ping Philip" He's the man!
Philip - 11 Jul 2005 04:57 GMT >> YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has >> now [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Find me 1 single post where Lyn has been constuctive and I will > stand corrected. Shucks, I'll even apologize. In the presence of Mary (in particular), the bitch fighting takes precedence ... sorry to say.
Lyn's early contributions during my early days of Bengal research and with Conan's first week-ten days illness were most helpful. Lyn also demonstrates lessons learned in the nasty and political incorrect realities of end life experiences and health decisions regarding cats.
Might as well make you apology to her.
whitershadeofpale - 11 Jul 2005 05:16 GMT > >> YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has > >> now [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Might as well make you apology to her. Here is post, where I do give her credit.
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Kitkat - 09 Jul 2005 16:25 GMT > YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has now > resorted to personal attacks. Um, check the mirror to see who now resorts to personal attacks.
Mary - 09 Jul 2005 20:22 GMT > > YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has now > > resorted to personal attacks. > > > Um, check the mirror to see who now resorts to personal attacks. He's just blowing hot air. Consider yourself part of his Senior Citizen Therapy. :)
whitershadeofpale - 09 Jul 2005 16:55 GMT > YOU are one who has exhausted his/her store of facts and has now > resorted to personal attacks. his/her? I'm a male. I guess on here, you never know what you might run into.
You could set the tone here, if you would just stop fornicating with anyone who DISAGREES WITH MARY
It's all about Mary with you.
You got a string of posts a mile long, about Mary. I don't think you like her at all.
Your idea of a quality post is someone who attacks Mary.
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That's not laughing, it's a machine gun.
Mary stood up to you, that's why you have such a hard on for her.
TELL ME IM LYING PHILIP
It speaks to the part of a man, that wants to rule the world.
Because without a good woman, a man is only half a person. TRU DAT brother.
A good woman can build a sorry man up, or just the opposite a bad woman can tear a good man down.
Justin L - 09 Jul 2005 13:44 GMT >Justin posted: <snip>
>>So, wouldn't you all have been happy if this were the case??" > >Depends what happened to him and where he went. Well, that was kind of my point. If a local stranger had adopted Conan, you would not know what happened to him.
>>Weren't you all waiting to see if he would get adopted by someone >>local before acting?" [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >and that and it became necessary to look at taking him out before the >adoption interviews could be completed. I was referring to the 2 weeks (06/14/2005 - 06/28/2005) that Conan was at the OC shelter (in a cage, I am sure) Everyone here was waiting to see if he was adopted locally before they acted.
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>What hopefully was going to happen to him was a nice, smooth transfer >into a properly vetted home. Not a long tenure waiting in yet another [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >about a million more cats in the world than there are >"acceptable-to-me" homes .... it really doesn't make much sense. All that mattered before was saving the cats life. If you really wanted to be in control of the adoption process, Conan was in the OC shelter for 2 weeks prior to being sprung.
>> Now it is out of your control. > >Yep. > >If it had remained in my control, it would be over. But it didn't so >.... the saga continues of Conan, the homeless cat. Unfortunately, it does.
Mary - 09 Jul 2005 14:20 GMT > >Justin posted: > <snip> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Well, that was kind of my point. If a local stranger had adopted > Conan, you would not know what happened to him. We cannot know, in any case. With anyone who adopts, there might be initial PR crap, but we don't know what really happens. The point was to get him out of the shelter and into a home. A secondary point is that it has not been necessary to observe the restrictions Monica (Dan Mahoney, actually, since he has him) has placed upon potential adoptors, such as square footage, etc. She is obviously using him as an object with which to bolster her own self esteem and "image" as a Wonderful Cat Placer. Others, like Jonathan's mom Lyn the Single-eybrowed lout, are using him to stick it to those of us who care about him.
> >>Weren't you all waiting to see if he would get adopted by someone > >>local before acting?" [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Unfortunately, it does. You might get it now. Just understand that for some it really is about the cat and for others it is not.
Kitkat - 09 Jul 2005 16:24 GMT > Others, like Jonathan's mom Lyn the Single-eybrowed lout, > are using him to stick it to those of us who care about him. Single-eyebrowed lout...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! You can also use the term "uni-brow" and get the same effect...even a little better. ;)
Mary - 09 Jul 2005 20:22 GMT > > Others, like Jonathan's mom Lyn the Single-eybrowed lout, > > are using him to stick it to those of us who care about him. > > Single-eyebrowed lout...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! > You can also use the term "uni-brow" and get the same effect...even a > little better. ;) Hee! I stole that from a guy in one of the political groups I participate in. He and I are on the same side of the fence and he responded to one of our opponents by saying, "Of all the single-eyebrowed ideas ..." :) I do like unibrow, too.
Kitkat - 09 Jul 2005 12:00 GMT > ok, not really sure on all the details, but best I can figure out.... > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Now it is out of your control. Justin...you are more than a day late and a dollar short in your "analysis". :)
Justin L - 09 Jul 2005 13:49 GMT <snip>
>Justin...you are more than a day late and a dollar short in your >"analysis". :) well excuse me!! I don't get to sit in front of my computer 23.5 hrs per day participating in Usenet discussions!
Kitkat - 09 Jul 2005 16:18 GMT > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > well excuse me!! I don't get to sit in front of my computer 23.5 hrs > per day participating in Usenet discussions! I understand that. But your "recap" was last weeks news. ;)
Justin L - 09 Jul 2005 20:26 GMT >> <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >I understand that. But your "recap" was last weeks news. ;) It was mainly to make sure I had the story straight, and to benefit those who may just be tuning in to this saga.
It can never hurt to have a recap!
Brad - 09 Jul 2005 20:38 GMT
>So all the fuss is really kinda silly people.
And the reason you felt you had to start yet another Conan post is not "kinda silly" I love it when people criticize by doing the exact thing they are whining about........WTG Justin you are wise beyond your years......
Brad
Lifes journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting......." HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!"
Justin L - 09 Jul 2005 22:52 GMT >>So all the fuss is really kinda silly people. > >And the reason you felt you had to start yet another Conan post is not >"kinda silly" Sure it is. It was supposed to be. You catch on quick!
> I love it when people criticize by doing the exact thing >they are whining about. me too! I also loved when people use like *a lot* of periods because they don't know how to use punctuation properly.
>.......WTG Justin you are wise beyond your >years...... Are you bowing before me? You had better be bowing before me!!
whitershadeofpale - 09 Jul 2005 23:16 GMT > >>So all the fuss is really kinda silly people. > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Are you bowing before me? You had better be bowing before me!! whitershadeofpale - 09 Jul 2005 23:16 GMT > >>So all the fuss is really kinda silly people. > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Are you bowing before me? You had better be bowing before me!! lol
Brad - 11 Jul 2005 16:49 GMT >>>So all the fuss is really kinda silly people. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Are you bowing before me? You had better be bowing before me!! Go....................................away....................little boy....................you bother me........................actually.................amuse is probably a better word.........................................................................................................................................
Brad
Lifes journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting......." HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!"
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