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My first trip to the Humane Society (LONG)
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Dan - 07 Jul 2005 04:39 GMT [Not sure which is the most appropriate usenet group for just general cat discussion. This one, while being the most heavily trafficked, also seems to have the most flamewars and noise.]
My sweet Ariel, who adopted me in April of 1990, passed away this weekend. Even after just a few days without, I knew I needed to find a new kitty. I decided to pay my first visit to the local Humane Society (Champaign, IL pop.150,000). I'd heard and read various and sundry things about the Humane Society over the years, ranging from praise, to horror stories. Knowing that the quality of the HS varies depending on city, I really didn't know what to expect.
I got there at 5:00, an hour before closing. The first thing that struck me was the sheer number of people browsing pets. The person I spoke with said they do 10-30 cat adoptions per day. Cats and dogs are kept completely separate; I concentrated solely in the felines. I would roughly estimate between 100 and 150 cats were there. The majority in cages, some sharing cages, but never more than 3, and only in the larger cages. Those with special feeding needs and/or those on certain treatments were isolated in separate cages. The cats all seemed well fed. While a lot were sleeping (hot weather will do that), I didn't see any that appeared in any distress. A lot of talkative souls, a myriad of cats wanting to both give and receive affection. A much wider array of breeds than I would have expected.
There were two "social rooms" that had several couches, a dozen or so "cat trees," baskets, and carpeted pillars. In each room were 10-20 of the more "sociable" cats, free to roam and interact. Plenty of food and clean litter. Each of the cages and rooms had information sheets in plastic about each cat, showing the cat's name, a picture, age, gender, neuter status, declaw status, temperment, special diet requirements, and date admitted.
Plenty of help (volunteers) around to answer questions, or help you take a cat to one of the smaller "Get Acquainted" rooms. I asked them about euthanasia, and they said that the only time they euthanized was if (1) there were major health problems, or (2) the cat was so socially maladjusted that it presented a danger to a potential owner or other cats. I was surprised to find cats that had been there for over a year. This HS apparently go out of their way to NOT euthanize an animal just because it's been there longer.
The person I spoke with lamented the comparative difficulty in adopting out adult cats; "everybody wants kittens." I'm guessing that's a big issue with families with children who only want "cute widdle kitties." This HS has taken an interesting approach to that: cats less than 1 year old are $100 to adopt, older than 1 year are $75. I had already made up my mind that if I were going to adopt, it would be an adult cat. I want to help by adopting a cat that might not otherwise find a home.
The adoption fee covers current shots (except rabies), testing for Feline Leukemia, and microchipping. Two things I found interesting: You cannot take the cat home with you right then and there. There is a mandatory 24-hour waiting period, for two purposes: (1) helps avoid spur-of-the-moment adoption decisions, and (2) allows the cat to be given a final medical checkup before leaving. Also, you are required to take the cat to a veterinarian within 3 business days of adoption (rabies shot, county registration, verification of fitness).
I fell in love with a gorgeous cat named Sadie. She's about 2 years old, pure black with gold eyes, and long hair (not sure what breed... long hair and poofy tail, but not the squished face of a Persian). When I picked up the puffball and placed her on my shoulder, she was immediately purring loudly and kneading my arm. Very happy kitty. Placed on the floor, she would jump up onto the chair next to me and either (1) want to walk onto my lap, or (2) plop down on the chair staring at me while flexing her paws happily.
So I signed up for an adoption.
Overnight, I kept thinking it over, and came to the decision that rather than just one, I should get Sadie a companion, since I tend to work long hours and am away most of the day. So back I went today, and instead of picking Sadie up, spent time introducing other cats to her, in order to see who might be compatible. After a few aborted attempts (1) a huge muscular male "alley cat" that was the biggest fraidy cat ever, and just hid under a chair after Sadie batted at his nose... wimp, and (2) an extremely talkative older lady that was just too old and crotchety to deal with a young whippersnapper, one of the staff suggested that since Sadie came from one of the "social rooms" maybe I should try one of the 20 cats that had been in there with her. Oh... DUH! Sheesh, I should have thought of that.
So I go into the room to see what cat personalities are available, and over lopes "Goldy" (love the cat, hate the name), and he decides to make my acquaintence... forcefully. When I picked him up, he immediately meowed, licked my ear, and started chewing on my hair, purring softly. Mkay. I placed him in the room with Sadie, and after a quick "*sniff* Hey, I know you!" the two of them just went about their exploring and playing, very much at ease with one another. I spied on them for a little bit from outside of the room to see if any problems would develop. Nah... S'all good.
Sooo.... as of now I'm scheduled to pick them both up tomorrow after work. Gotta pick up another cat carrier though. I found out afterwards that they encourage people to adopt cats in pairs, so there's no adoption fee for the second cat. I would have paid it anyway, so I'm going to give part of the second cat fee as a voluntary donation.
Overall, I feel a lot better about the Humane Society (at least our local chapter) than I did beforehand. They seem to do very nice work there and genuinely care for the animals.
-Dan
Candace - 07 Jul 2005 04:46 GMT > Sooo.... as of now I'm scheduled to pick them both up tomorrow after work. > Gotta pick up another cat carrier though. I found out afterwards that they [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > chapter) than I did beforehand. They seem to do very nice work there and > genuinely care for the animals. Great, sounds wonderful! I'm glad you got 2. You'll have to keep us posted on what they're up to. I'm sure you have many happy times ahead with them. They sound like 2 lucky kitties. I'm sorry about your late cat, it's a nice tribute to him/her to give some others a home.
Candace
Dan - 08 Jul 2005 04:29 GMT [links to pics included; apologies for my nonexistent photography skills]
Well, the dynamic duo have been here at home for roughly 4.5 hours now.
They explored for about 45 minutes, then started to settle down and more or less take over the house, as is their wont. Both found and used the litter box. This was a concern to me, as (1) Ariel had some incontinence problems, some of which had not been cleaned up throroughly, and (2) my house is such that there is not a good place to confine the cats initially with the litter box so they get used to its location. I was watching them like a hawk.
I know that 4.5 hours is too short a time to be making judgments, but I do have some concerns, primarily with Goldy.
First, here is Goldy:
http://www.cdsniper.com/cats/goldy1.jpg
He's a bit aloof, and doesn't actively seek affection, although he'll accept it if you come to him. That's not the problem; he's allowed his own personality. ;) My concerns are twofold: (1) whenever Sadie goes to use the litterbox, he stalks and pounces on her; she is not happy about it and will hiss and swat, and more importantly (2) he's a jumper and a climber. He wants to get up on counters, bookshelves, you name it. Since I'm not at home during the day, I'm afraid of the damage he might do (I live alone, so there's no one else to discipline him, nor do I want to lock him up during the day).
This is Sadie:
http://www.cdsniper.com/cats/sadie1.jpg
Already commandeering a table:
http://www.cdsniper.com/cats/sadie1.jpg
Getting ready to take a schwack at the camera:
http://www.cdsniper.com/cats/sadie3.jpg
For lack of a better term, Sadie is... well... an attention whore.
She constantly wants to be petted. She will sit there staring, purring, and flexing her paws. If you don't take the hint, she will come and make her intentions known. She likes to "reach out and touch you" while flexing her paws. If I'm standing up and she wants attention, she will sit up on her hind legs, flexing both paws in mid air to get my attention; incredibly cute. She already spent some time curled up in the crook of my arm, grooming herself and then settling down for a brief nap (talk about feeling right at home).
So, one is playing queen, and the other one is the knave. Not sure what to do about the latter...
-Dan
animzmirot - 08 Jul 2005 04:46 GMT > [links to pics included; apologies for my nonexistent photography skills] > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > -Dan What lovely kitties. Goldie looks like he's got a lot on his mind. Don't judge him too harshly, he might fit in just fine in a few weeks. Some cats take longer than others to relax and strut their personalities.
Marjorie
Karen - 08 Jul 2005 05:00 GMT > [links to pics included; apologies for my nonexistent photography skills] > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > -Dan It's probably way too soon to see how things shake out. Can you add another litter box? I have a second in the corner of my bedroom on a big desk matt to protect the carpet and a little privacy screen. also, you might invest in a good sturdy TALL cat tree. My cats have several to choose from but that is probably overkill. For two cats I suggest one tall one and then a shorter one. That way they can each have a territory. I hope you can afford it because it will really help them with vertical territory. They are sure pretty!!
KellyH - 08 Jul 2005 10:10 GMT > It's probably way too soon to see how things shake out. Can you add > another [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > because it will really help them with vertical territory. They are sure > pretty!! I was going to write pretty much the exact same thing as Karen! Do get another litterbox and place it in another area if you can. As for counters and tables, I've learned to not leave anything breakable within a cat's reach. I still come home to stuff knocked off the table sometimes, but it really doesn't bother me that much. Some good sturdy cat towers will help. Just give Goldie some time to get comfortable.
-Kelly
Dan - 10 Jul 2005 01:27 GMT Well, 'twas not meant to be, as far as Goldy is concerned. He is just too much cat for my situation. It was a long night Thursday night. I went back to the HS yestderday morning (after putting Goldy in his kitty carrier so he wouldn't go nuts either on Sadie or on the bookshelves) and spoke with them about his behavior and temperment. The woman I spoke with seemed more knowledgeable about the various animals (I think she may have been a full-time staff member rather than a volunteer), and after I explained everything, she said "Yeah, I wish I had been here when you were choosing a companion for Sadie. I probably would have warned you away from Goldy. He's a great cat, but he needs lots of space and free reign; he's very energetic."
I picture Goldy living in a huge Victorian house, not a dinky 2-bedroom ranch.
The HS had absolutely no problem taking Goldy back; they would much rather that I return him to them, fully explaining the reasons why, than having either cat in an unpleasant environment. Goldy went back into the social room with the 20 other cats he was initially with, and he seemed quite fine.
I spent about two hours in the social room, "interviewing" candidates to be Sadie's companion, after getting some recommendations from the HS staff member, both for particular cats to look at, as well as ones to stay away from. I wish I had done this the first time around. Hindsight is always 20-20.
Rather than get a (formerly) boy kitty, I decided to try another (former) female. For some reason, amongst all the cats I have had since I was a child, I have always "connected" better with female cats than males. No idea why, but it's always been that way.
Enter Clarice. (I keep thinking "Tick tock, Clarice, tick tock." "Quid-pro quo." and "It puts the lotion in the basket.) :)
While Sadie is a small-to-average-sized cat (8.9 pounds at 2 years, 4 months), Clarice is pint-sized by comparison. She is 11 months old and 6.6 pounds. Not malnourished or anything, just a very small frame. She too is black, although she has some tortiseshell coloring.
I brought her into the house and let her out of the carrier. She and Sadie did a brief *sniff* and then Clarice was off to explore. I have a bit more "kitty-proofing" to do to the house; being as tiny as she is, she can fit into very small spaces.
I spent some time watching her, petting her, and getting her acclimated. Sadie got jealous, and knocked a few things over to get my attention. I then spent some time going back and forth from kitty to kitty, so neither one would feel left out.
The two of them were ignoring one another for the most part. Both kitties are obsessive groomers. Clarice wanted to lick my hands and arms, purring wildly. Sadie, on the other hand, apparently is a shoulder cat (as well as a lap cat, chest cat, table cat, desk cat, keyboard cat, scanner cat, etc., etc.). She jumped on my shoulder and progressed to bathe my head. Having a kitty lick your ears, neck and hair is... well... different.
Later on in the afternoon I was lying on the couch with little Clarice dozing contedly on my side. Sadie decides to launch herself onto the back of the couch and then jump down on me, and proceeds to start bathing Clarice like there's no tomorrow (I wonder if Sadie might have had kittens at some point in the past before she was neutered at the shelter). Clarice just lies there with her eyes closed and then starts bathing Sadie back. So for the next hour I'm trapped on the couch while the two kitties are sitting on me licking one another (lesbo kitties? :) :).
So all seems well thus far. It looks like the two of them will get along fine.
All-important pictures!
Clarice:
http://www.cdsniper.com/cats/clarice1.jpg
Clarice and Sadie on my table:
http://www.cdsniper.com/cats/sadieandclarice1.jpg
Sadie getting upset because I'm trying to take a picture of Clarice:
http://www.cdsniper.com/cats/sadieandclarice2.jpg
Happy kitties abound.
-Dan
Candace - 10 Jul 2005 20:24 GMT > The HS had absolutely no problem taking Goldy back; they would much rather > that I return him to them, fully explaining the reasons why, than having > either cat in an unpleasant environment. Goldy went back into the social > room with the 20 other cats he was initially with, and he seemed quite fine. Well, I hope it's really a no-kill shelter as you first described it. He may have worked out at your house in time but maybe not. I have a 3rd cat that I have now had for a year and he has never worked out with the others. It makes for an interesting domestic situation for al of us.
Good luck with Clarice and Sadie and I hope the best for Goldy...
Candace
Dan - 11 Jul 2005 00:47 GMT Well, color me selfish, but I would much prefer a pair of cats that seem at least somewhat at ease with one another, to a pair that needed constant supervision. Better for all concerned (except maybe Goldy, but I can't adopt them all).
The net result is the same -- two cats adopted. It's just that one of them is a different cat.
Some pics from today:
1. Lazin' on a Sunday afternoon:
http://www.cdsniper.com/cats/sadieandclarice4.jpg
2. Takin'care of bidness:
http://www.cdsniper.com/cats/sadieandclarice3.jpg
-Dan
>> The HS had absolutely no problem taking Goldy back; they would much >> rather [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Candace Kitkat - 07 Jul 2005 04:46 GMT > Overall, I feel a lot better about the Humane Society (at least our local > chapter) than I did beforehand. They seem to do very nice work there and > genuinely care for the animals. > > -Dan Hi Dan. You rule. Thanks for saving not ONE but TWO adult kitties. I am sure the HS will appreciate you donating money to them instead of paying an adoption fee for Goldy. Feel free to keep us updated...lots of us like to see pictures. ;)
FYI...I am a graduate of U of I...class of 94. So, I am familiar with Chambana and I think I even went to their HS one day just to see some kitties. I ended up getting my first kitty, Luna, from the HS of Chicago. They had the same policy...no same day adoptions and no weekend adoptions (iirc).
Enjoy your new furbabies and like I said...PIX!!!!! pls. k. thx.
:) Pam
clfr@adelphia.net - 07 Jul 2005 05:42 GMT <snipped>
> Sooo.... as of now I'm scheduled to pick them both up tomorrow after work. > Gotta pick up another cat carrier though. I found out afterwards that they [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Dan Condolences on Ariel's death. But...
Congrats (a-little-in-advance) on your 2 new adoptees! :-) May they have long, healthy, & happy lives!
Cathy
P.S. I agree, re: Goldy's name, but mostly because it saounds like a name for a female cat, to me! <g>
KellyH - 07 Jul 2005 06:04 GMT > [Not sure which is the most appropriate usenet group for just general cat > discussion. This one, while being the most heavily trafficked, also seems > to have the most flamewars and noise.] > > My sweet Ariel, who adopted me in April of 1990, passed away this weekend. I'm very sorry to hear about Ariel.
> Even after just a few days without, I knew I needed to find a new kitty. I > decided to pay my first visit to the local Humane Society (Champaign, IL > pop.150,000). I'd heard and read various and sundry things about the > Humane Society over the years, ranging from praise, to horror stories. > Knowing that the quality of the HS varies depending on city, I really > didn't know what to expect. <snip>
> Overall, I feel a lot better about the Humane Society (at least our local > chapter) than I did beforehand. They seem to do very nice work there and > genuinely care for the animals. > > -Dan Congrats on adopting two kitties! I enjoyed your post and detailed description of the shelter. If I was in the area, I would have to check it out. Sounds like my dream cat shelter, especially with the social rooms. I look forward to hearing more about them :)
P.S. The group isn't always like this, you've caught us at a bad time. Stick around, and keep posting about your cats.
-Kelly
Karen - 07 Jul 2005 06:10 GMT > Sooo.... as of now I'm scheduled to pick them both up tomorrow after work. > Gotta pick up another cat carrier though. I found out afterwards that they [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Dan Outstanding. I'm so glad you found two new friends.
Barb - 07 Jul 2005 16:10 GMT That's a very nice story. You wouldn't care to divulge what city this HS is in? Some day, hopefully way in the future after my 2 year old cat's days are over, I will need to find an older adult cat as I don't want my cats to outlive me. My own experience at the animal league was so poor that I doubt that I will return although I do still donate to them.
-- Barb Of course I don't look busy, I did it right the first time.
Janet B - 07 Jul 2005 16:21 GMT >That's a very nice story. You wouldn't care to divulge what city this HS is >in? Some day, hopefully way in the future after my 2 year old cat's days >are over, I will need to find an older adult cat as I don't want my cats to >outlive me. My own experience at the animal league was so poor that I doubt >that I will return although I do still donate to them. From the OP:
Champaign, IL
Just a comment on the OP's "local branch" of the HS. There is no global HS - anyone may use the names Human Society, SPCA, etc. Just to clarify for anyone who isn't aware.
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tracyrose@gmail.com - 07 Jul 2005 16:33 GMT What a lovely story!
Enjoy them. They sound like an adorable pair :>
-T
PawsForThought - 07 Jul 2005 17:40 GMT >Sooo.... as of now I'm scheduled to pick them both up tomorrow after work. > Gotta pick up another cat carrier though. I found out afterwards that they > encourage people to adopt cats in pairs, so there's no adoption fee for the > second cat. I would have paid it anyway, so I'm going to give part of the > second cat fee as a voluntary donation. Hi Dan, I'm very sorry for your loss of Ariel. I know she'd heartily approve of your new furkids :) Congrats!
LAUREN
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Cheryl - 07 Jul 2005 23:53 GMT <snip>
> Overall, I feel a lot better about the Humane Society (at least > our local chapter) than I did beforehand. They seem to do very > nice work there and genuinely care for the animals. Congrats Dan, and your post had me with tears in my eyes. Happy tears for you, for Sadie and Goldie (whatever you end up naming him!). It's so sad to see them all in that situation but it's reality, and that you took two, well bless you!
 Signature Cheryl
"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields
Rhonda - 08 Jul 2005 06:38 GMT What a great story, Dan. Two cats saved! They're going to have a great time chasing each other through your house.
Rhonda
> Sooo.... as of now I'm scheduled to pick them both up tomorrow after work. > Gotta pick up another cat carrier though. I found out afterwards that they > encourage people to adopt cats in pairs, so there's no adoption fee for the > second cat. I would have paid it anyway, so I'm going to give part of the > second cat fee as a voluntary donation.
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