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Cat not drinking/not peeing.

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J.B. - 06 Jul 2005 01:36 GMT
Hi people, my cat eats fine - alot actually he weighs 15 lbs and is 3 years
old. Lately he hasnt been drinking very much at all - arent cats supposed to
drink alot? Also, bc of this he hasnt been peeing. He does eat alot and poop
alot. Another thing i noticed was him swallowing some food then coughing it
back up or throwing it back up before its really digested - but only
sometimes. Im worried about the water thing. should i give him milk or fill
his water bowl to the top....please help
whitershadeofpale - 06 Jul 2005 01:54 GMT
\ wrote:
> Hi people, my cat eats fine - alot actually he weighs 15 lbs and is 3 years
> old. Late <...> s really digested - but only
> sometimes. Im worried about the water thing. should i give him milk or fill
> his water bowl to the top....please help

Oh heck yeah, give them lots and lots of fresh cool water.

I'd lay off the milk though, it's really for calves.

Milk is very hard to digest. Milk actually lays in the stomach for
about 4 hours and actually rots then the body let's it through, just to
get the rot out.

For a test, put a glass of milk outside on a 100 degree day, for 4
hours, then smell it.
J.B. - 06 Jul 2005 02:00 GMT
i mean thanks for your comments - but you really didnt answer my question -
whats wrong with my baby cat?
KellyH - 06 Jul 2005 02:11 GMT
>i mean thanks for your comments - but you really didnt answer my question -
> whats wrong with my baby cat?

I don;'t know, I'm not a vet.  It could be a number of things: diabetes,
kidney problems, it's hard to say.  He needs to be seen by a vet and a full
bloodwork panel done.

-Kelly
Mary - 06 Jul 2005 02:12 GMT
> i mean thanks for your comments - but you really didnt answer my question -
> whats wrong with my baby cat?

Point is he may die if you don't get him to the vet asap.
whitershadeofpale - 06 Jul 2005 02:38 GMT
\ wrote:
> i mean thanks for your comments - but you really didnt answer my question -
> whats wrong with my baby cat?

You could always get your uncle (the vet) to check him out!

How is Aunt Sandra, say hello for me.

These ladies have cared for cats for a loooooooooong time, I'd take
their advice, and stop looking for a diagnosis on this group. Come back
and tell us, what the vet found out.

Best to you!
Philip - 06 Jul 2005 03:34 GMT
> \ wrote:
>> Hi people, my cat eats fine - alot actually he weighs 15 lbs and is 3
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> For a test, put a glass of milk outside on a 100 degree day, for 4
> hours, then smell it.

Many people smell worse.  LOL

How about KMR or the 2nd Step weening formula?    Won't be pleasant either.
equalizer - 06 Jul 2005 07:10 GMT
>> \ wrote:
>>> Hi people, my cat eats fine - alot actually he weighs 15 lbs and is 3
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>Many people smell worse.  LOL

That's true, Arthur. How about calling the BBB and complaining about the
home care nurse. I think it's about time they get someone out there who
can change your colostomy bag with some semblance of fidelity, don't
you?

eq

>How about KMR or the 2nd Step weening formula?    Won't be pleasant either.
Phil P. - 06 Jul 2005 09:34 GMT
> >> \ wrote:
> >>> Hi people, my cat eats fine - alot actually he weighs 15 lbs and is 3
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> can change your colostomy bag with some semblance of fidelity, don't
> you?

Philip's wife is a stickler for fashon- she got him shoes that match the
bag.
whitershadeofpale - 06 Jul 2005 09:54 GMT
> Philip's wife is a stickler for fashon- she got him shoes that match the
> bag.

lol, carry your wall-eyed a.s to bed!
Philip - 06 Jul 2005 15:19 GMT
>>> Oh heck yeah, give them lots and lots of fresh cool water.
>>>
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>
> eq

You really enjoyed drinking the contents of the last one that much?  Wow.
equalizer - 06 Jul 2005 15:41 GMT
>>>> Oh heck yeah, give them lots and lots of fresh cool water.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>You really enjoyed drinking the contents of the last one that much?  Wow.

No, that wasn't me, I'm nowhere near Orange. That was your old slut wife
you were giving the drink to. Alzheimer's a bitch, I know.

eq
Philip - 06 Jul 2005 16:16 GMT
>>>>> Oh heck yeah, give them lots and lots of fresh cool water.
>>>>>
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>
> eq

That's your last post.  Killfile.
Trish - 06 Jul 2005 16:20 GMT
> >>>>> Oh heck yeah, give them lots and lots of fresh cool water.
> >>>>>
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>
> That's your last post.  Killfile.

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hhgmghmghmmf - 06 Jul 2005 16:35 GMT
>>>>>> Oh heck yeah, give them lots and lots of fresh cool water.
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
>That's your last post.  Killfile.

I wholeheartedly accept your complete concession -- you can dish it out
but can't take it, apparently. BTW -- public kill-filing is a practice
for those with little power in real life to compensate in some small
way.

ta ta!

eq
whitershadeofpale - 06 Jul 2005 09:54 GMT
> > \ wrote:
> >> Hi people, my cat eats fine - alot actually he weighs 15 lbs and is 3
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> How about KMR or the 2nd Step weening formula?    Won't be pleasant either.

Not the same comparison, I assume KMR digests within 15 mins?
So you'd have to set the KMR out for only 15 mins or less. lol

Drink some and see...lemme know.
Wayne Mitchell - 06 Jul 2005 14:59 GMT
>I'd lay off the milk though, it's really for calves.
>
>Milk is very hard to digest. Milk actually lays in the stomach for
>about 4 hours and actually rots then the body let's it through, just to
>get the rot out.

Nonsense.  Though it is true that cow's milk is a problem for
many cats (some handle it fine), the rest of what you say is
false.  As caregiver to an insulin-using diabetic, I know that
cow's milk (preferably low-fat) is almost as good as juice or
soda for treating low blood sugar because the sugar content is
quickly digested, absorbed and converted to glucose.

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Wayne M.

Philip - 06 Jul 2005 15:31 GMT
>> I'd lay off the milk though, it's really for calves.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> soda for treating low blood sugar because the sugar content is
> quickly digested, absorbed and converted to glucose.

Agreed on points (a) some cats are latose intolerant ... watch for diarhhea,
& (b) low/skim milk minimizes intolerance or ... try using Lactaide milk.
whitershadeofpale - 06 Jul 2005 15:41 GMT
> Nonsense.  Though it is true that cow's milk is a problem for
> many cats (some handle it fine), the rest of what you say is
> false.  As caregiver to an insulin-using diabetic, I know that
> cow's milk (preferably low-fat) is almost as good as juice or
> soda for treating low blood sugar because the sugar content is
> quickly digested, absorbed and converted to glucose.

> Wayne M.

We toolking bout cats or kids
Wayne Mitchell - 06 Jul 2005 17:46 GMT
>We toolking bout cats or kids

?? Neither, as far as I know.  I thought we were discussing the
digestibility of cow's milk and whether it could remain four
hours in the stomach and "rot".  Wouldn't matter whether it's
humans or cats, adult or immature, that's just not going to
happen.

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Wayne M.

whitershadeofpale - 06 Jul 2005 20:00 GMT
Wouldn't matter whether it's
> humans or cats, adult or immature, that's just not going to
> happen.
>
> --
>
> Wayne M.

My belief is based on something I read in an health book.

It's been years ago, it was called, Fit For Life, it was really
popular. I told what I read basically.

"Fit for Life" describes how proteins and starches cannot be digested
together without great difficulty.

Now if you eat milk and beef together, the two require two totally
different acids to digest them. Incidently, these two happen to cancel
each other out. Another rotten bathroom trip.

Don't be wrapping your lips around no cow tits! lol

WHOLE MILK IS 3%
So. 1 and 2 % is really no great savings on fat.

I think dairy farmers are the ones who pay for these Got Milk
campaigns.

but, I admit, I eat plenty of dairy products
KellyH - 06 Jul 2005 02:00 GMT
> Hi people, my cat eats fine - alot actually he weighs 15 lbs and is 3
> years
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> fill
> his water bowl to the top....please help

Please take him to the vet for a thorough work up.  It could be diabetes.

-Kelly
Karen - 06 Jul 2005 03:12 GMT
>> Hi people, my cat eats fine - alot actually he weighs 15 lbs and is 3
>> years
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> -Kelly

It could also be heart trouble. Many things. I would definitely get a
thorough check up.
Larry - 07 Jul 2005 01:42 GMT
I doubt it is diabetes.  All five of my diabetic kitties drank and peed a
lot before they were regulated with insulin.

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Mathew Kagis - 06 Jul 2005 02:03 GMT
VET VISIT!!!!  Could be UTI, could be a kideney problem, could be lots
of things....  Let a professional find out so you can do something
about it.

Cheers
Mathew
Cheryl - 06 Jul 2005 02:03 GMT
> Hi people, my cat eats fine - alot actually he weighs 15 lbs and
> is 3 years old. Lately he hasnt been drinking very much at all -
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> sometimes. Im worried about the water thing. should i give him
> milk or fill his water bowl to the top....please help

I'd have him checked by a vet ASAP if he isn't peeing. And no, cats
don't normally drink a lot of water. At least, not enough to keep
their kidneys happy. When they have a diet of canned food, they
don't drink much, but even then they will urinate regularly, or
even a lot. My Shamrock doesn't eat much if any dry food and he
pees like a racehorse (quaint expression) when he goes. Males cats
have a tendency to have blockages in their penis' if crystals form
from lack of water.

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Cheryl

"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited
breath."
- W.C. Fields

animzmirot - 06 Jul 2005 02:09 GMT
> Hi people, my cat eats fine - alot actually he weighs 15 lbs and is 3 years
> old. Lately he hasnt been drinking very much at all - arent cats supposed to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> sometimes. Im worried about the water thing. should i give him milk or fill
> his water bowl to the top....please help

If your cat really isn't peeing at all, this is a LIFE THREATENING problem
and you need to get to the vet right this second. Not in the morning, not on
Wednesday, NOW. I've recently been there myself with my cat, and he was not
far from kitty heaven when I brought him into the vet. $1200 later, he's
great, in the best humor he's ever been in (he's rather a grumpy old man),
and in tip top shape. He was hospitalized for several days and the bill was
enormous because he was at an emergency vet in a ridiculously wealthy town,
so don't expect that your bill will be anywhere near that.

But honestly, get to the vet now.

And BTW, milk isn't digestible for cats, so don't give him any.

Marjorie
Phil P. - 06 Jul 2005 09:34 GMT
> Hi people, my cat eats fine - alot actually he weighs 15 lbs and is 3 years
> old. Lately he hasnt been drinking very much at all - arent cats supposed to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> sometimes. Im worried about the water thing. should i give him milk or fill
> his water bowl to the top....please help

A male cat that doesn't urinate for more than 24 hours may have a urinary
tract obstruction and could *die*.  A urinary tract obstruction produces a
pathophysiologic state equivalent to *oliguric acute renal failure*.

Your cat needs to see a vet *immediately*-- if not sooner.
 
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