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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2005Conan, Cloak and dagger, Rescue?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I just got back from a couple of days of fishing out at Cape Cod and checked to see how Conan was doing. There's quite a mystery going on here. So I wound up looking back at "Monica's" original post. As I started looking a little closer at it, I began analyzing it as someone in the intelligence community might analyze a diplomatic communique. Here's my take on things. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cmtowle" <cmtowle@shaw.ca> >> I have been asked by our group to post the information below and I am >> delighted to be able to provide a positive update. Please note that the >> three of us are equally involved in Conan's adoption efforts and I just >> happen to be the one to post. We got the cat. Two of us want to stay anonymous. (could the other 2 have split off from the original attempt) > Because of the time factor, we decided last night to get Conan out of the > shelter and he is now in a caring and safe environment. We are working very > hard on finding him a permanent home and hope to avoid any potential stress > of an extensive transport. You clowns couldn't successfully extricate a piece of lettuce from between your teeth with dental floss. >He is a beautiful, healthy boy who has already > shown that he has a penchant for climbing into laps, cuddle, and knead (in > that order) every chance he gets. Relax folks, we've got things under control. > Thank you Mary for your offer to pay for his adoption. As three of us are > now actively working on the situation as it stands, we felt as a group that > accepting your money would not be appropriate under the circumstances and it > has been returned to you. If we took your money, we would have to keep you in the loop and we have no desire nor intention of doing that. > We will update the group as things unfold, but we do not wish to engage in > lengthy threads or e-mails about this. We want to focus on Conan's > well-being and best interests. We may tell you something, if we feel like it. It's our show.....f**K off. > However, serious leads on a permanent home are very much welcomed and will > be followed up. We don't have a clue what to do with him. > Conan thanks all of you who were and remain interested in his rescue - > without this newsgroup he would have remained another anonymous kitty > languishing in a shelter waiting for a home. Next time, don't talk so much or someone else, who can actually get something done right, will have to do it again. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, I'm a little tired and in a rather cynical mood right now. But after going through the various threads and looking back at the original "rescue" post, that's my interpretation. I'm still just REALLY glad he's out of the shelter, though. Time to get some sleep. "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." G.B.Shaw > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > called cynicism by those who have not got it." > G.B.Shaw He's in a f.cking kennel, and Monica has turned down two perfectly good homes for him. > He's in a f.cking kennel, and Monica has turned down two > perfectly good homes for him. You know this HOW? You don't have a clue what Monica has done and your penchant for making things up and than stating them as abject truth is scary. I don't know where Conan is either, but thru email with one related party, I've heard that he's doing well and that's good enough for me. He's alive and out of the shelter. If he's been adopted, and I believe by now he has, then maybe the good people that rescued him are protecting the privacy of the adopters. You have considered that, right? Marjorie > > He's in a f.cking kennel, and Monica has turned down two > > perfectly good homes for him. > > You know this HOW? You don't have a clue what Monica has done and your > penchant for making things up and than stating them as abject truth is > scary. Monica, you're an idiot. I know she has turned down two good homes because the parties themselves told me. I know he is in a kennel because Dan got him and Dan could not keep him at home. Monica is in Canada. Had she not interfered with Dan the cat would be in his new home in San Diego. Now f.ck off you ignorant crone. > > "Mary" <marys@catlover.com> wrote in message > news:42c78229_1@x-privat.org... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Monica, you're an idiot. That should be "Marjorie." Monica is no idiot. :) Marjorie, If you have a line through a related party, all they have to do is just post an update. I know they want this to be private, but with all that has apparently happened -- they could just post that Conan is living in a foster home and a new adopter has been found or whatever. They don't have to give any names. They know how much effort we put into this, too. Actually, forget it. If they don't want us to know anything, we won't know anything. Emails can go to people behind the scenes. Rhonda > You know this HOW? You don't have a clue what Monica has done and your > penchant for making things up and than stating them as abject truth is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Marjorie > Marjorie, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a foster home and a new adopter has been found or whatever. They don't > have to give any names. They know how much effort we put into this, too. It is clearly just spite now. I am trying to put it behind me but I am really worried about this boy, he's been through so much. > Actually, forget it. If they don't want us to know anything, we won't > know anything. Emails can go to people behind the scenes. I know where he is. Dan told us where he was taking him. There was not time for the plan to change, and there are not many kennels where he could stay for $10 a night. He has been sitting in a cage for six days. Sometimes I just really hope Karma works as it should. > Rhonda > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > Marjorie >Sometimes I just really hope Karma works as it should. In the absence of a radically different fact pattern than what we have put together over the past couple of days, Dan has revealed himself as a duplicitous individual. He appears to have abused a position of trust by lying directly to a number of well-meaning people who trusted him. As for Monica, she seems to have overplayed her hand by rejecting your friend in nearby San Diego for no good reason. She is making herself out to be a meddling obstructionist rather than a rescuer. Overall, given the way they have handled this, I don't think they will get much positive recognition from this exploit. Charlie > >Sometimes I just really hope Karma works as it should. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Overall, given the way they have handled this, I don't think they will > get much positive recognition from this exploit. The funny thing is, Dan's secret would have been safe except for the fact that Monica could not help gloating in her Tuesday afternoon post. She new damned well that when she said "we decided not to use your money, it has been returned to you" that she was implicating Dan. So he is completely screwed. He did not do right by Conan, and he has been exposed as a liar. And he lied unnecessarily. As I said before, all he had to do was email all of us after he changed his mind and say,"Look, I am sorry folks, but someone convinced me that if you are involved Charlie might get this cat. So I am getting him for someone else." That is all he had to do. We just wanted him out of the shelter, after all. However---I would never have left him in a kennel for six days. The San Diego guy said he wanted him Tuesday night. Dan had volunteered to take him to him, too. That is where Conan would be right now had Monica not intervened. And it would be a good home. I have their entire correspondence. She had no basis to reject him. She used the "he is a big cat and will want to leap around" thing, and let's face it, most people who have cats, big or otherwise, do not encourage them to leap all over stuff. I'm trying to get off this subject but the truth is, the a.sholes have me by the short hairs because I am worried about this cat and how lost and confused he has to feel. > I don't know where Conan is either, but thru email with one related party, > I've heard that he's doing well and that's good enough for me. He's alive > and out of the shelter. If he's been adopted, and I believe by now he has, > then maybe the good people that rescued him are protecting the privacy of > the adopters. You have considered that, right? No one wants the adopters' names, addresses, told. It's hardly a privacy violation to state that he has been adopted by (insert brief description). Regardless of everything, there was another "group" that did a lot of work to release Conan. If the group who now has him disapproved of who they may have given him to, they should at least realize that the first group cared about him, set some things in motion, and would also have rescued him from the shelter. And, if, indeed, the actual person who secured Conan's release is the same person who was set by the first group to secure his release, then the first group did get everything going. I think it is only natural that Group A would like a little closure. It's not about being petty, mean-spirited, or any other negative connotations. Candace > > I don't know where Conan is either, but thru email with one related party, > > I've heard that he's doing well and that's good enough for me. He's alive [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > It's not about being petty, mean-spirited, or any other negative > connotations. It isn't at all. I don't want to know where he is, just that he is out of a cage. And I feel sure he isn't. As for the "work" the others did, they just did what we did--hijacked Dan, per se, and sent him money. The only difference is, had he gone ahead with our plan, Conan would be in his San Diego home now. That is a fact. The guy, who is terrific, wants him, and Dan was ready to drop him off until Monica intervened. And now instead, he has been in a cage for six days. The reason we are being told nothing is precisely BECAUSE I am right. He has been in the kennel near Dan and Nancy's house now all this time. It's awful. >>> I don't know where Conan is either, but thru email with one related >>> party, I've heard that he's doing well and that's good enough for [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > kennel near Dan and Nancy's house now all this time. > It's awful. I'm ready to stick a fork in Mary. Her emotional stability is cooked. > I'm ready to stick a fork in Mary. Her emotional stability is cooked. Oh come'on Philip, try a little tenderness, if you know anything that might relieve worry, come'on and tell it. You've had some fun, let's have it pal! what do you know. >> I'm ready to stick a fork in Mary. Her emotional stability is cooked. > > Oh come'on Philip, try a little tenderness, Guffaw Guffaw.... nyuk nyuk. Nine pun. ;^) > if you know anything that > might relieve worry, come'on and tell it. > > You've had some fun, let's have it pal! what do you know. Sorry. Not a word. This ain't over. >> I don't know where Conan is either, but thru email with one related >> party, I've heard that he's doing well and that's good enough for [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > privacy violation to state that he has been adopted by (insert brief > description). ABSOLUTELY FALSE. > Regardless of everything, there was another "group" that did a lot of > work to release Conan. If the group who now has him disapproved of who [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > group to secure his release, then the first group did get everything > going. Hold on. Do you think the adopting party has no rights? Let me clarify. If Team B reevaluates the adopting party's care and finds it not to their "approval" that they have some "right" to "repossess" Conan? Just answer that question and let's see where this goes. > I think it is only natural that Group A would like a little closure. > It's not about being petty, mean-spirited, or any other negative > connotations. > > Candace "Closure" BAH. A psychobabble term that means nothing. Nomen, thanks for the laugh! That was pretty funny. Goodnight, Rhonda > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > =XgPE > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> We will update the group as things unfold, but we do not wish to engage in >> lengthy threads or e-mails about this. We want to focus on Conan's [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >We don't have a clue what to do with him. HORK! You got it Nomen. Charlie |
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