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Jen M. - 01 Jul 2005 22:38 GMT I have been reading about Conan along with everyone else. I have read three posts now and am not certain how Conan got rescued, where he is at now, and who is going to adopt him?
Who were the two groups?
Who adopted him anon?
I don't ask this to stir the pot--sincerely interested.
Now, if we can turn all this energy to all the other abandoned kitties.
Thanks, Jen
Philip - 01 Jul 2005 22:57 GMT > I have been reading about Conan along with everyone else. I have read > three posts now and am not certain how Conan got rescued, where he is > at now, and who is going to adopt him? snip
> Thanks, > Jen Ooooooooooo WOW! You've been reading along with everyone else ... all THREE posts. I'm impressed. I would not be surprised if the various Conan threads compiled is in excess of one thousand posts!
Jen M. - 01 Jul 2005 23:29 GMT I could have explained myself more clearly--the three recent threads on the first page I meant. Very kind and gentlemanly of you to be of assistance and contribute positively and not jumping on the smart-a$$ train.
Sincerely, Jen
>> I have been reading about Conan along with everyone else. I have read >> three posts now and am not certain how Conan got rescued, where he is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >THREE posts. I'm impressed. I would not be surprised if the various Conan >threads compiled is in excess of one thousand posts! equalizer - 01 Jul 2005 23:41 GMT >I could have explained myself more clearly--the three recent threads on the >first page I meant. Very kind and gentlemanly of you to be of assistance and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>THREE posts. I'm impressed. I would not be surprised if the various Conan >>threads compiled is in excess of one thousand posts! Don't fret over it, Jen. Phil Arthur caused the whole mess, and is just disappointed that you didn't get drawn into reading all his posts. He lives for the attention, he's got little besides.
FTR, I knew exactly what you meant!
eq
Mary - 01 Jul 2005 23:52 GMT > I could have explained myself more clearly--the three recent threads on the > first page I meant. Very kind and gentlemanly of you to be of assistance and > contribute positively and not jumping on the smart-a$$ train. Philip is just here in case someone needs to see a good example of a flaming a.shole.
Philip - 02 Jul 2005 03:14 GMT >> I could have explained myself more clearly--the three recent threads >> on [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Philip is just here in case someone needs to see a good example of a > flaming a.shole. That's a title you will hold forever, Mary.
jyhhjhgjhhh - 02 Jul 2005 03:36 GMT >>> I could have explained myself more clearly--the three recent threads >>> on [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >That's a title you will hold forever, Mary. Little tender from the whipping she gave you, eh Arthur?
biggerbadderbarry - 02 Jul 2005 05:20 GMT > Ooooooooooo WOW! You've been reading along with everyone else ... all > THREE posts. I'm impressed. I would not be surprised if the various Conan > threads compiled is in excess of one thousand posts! I started crunching this very thing last Sunday ( I think )
I isolated your posts with the "Find" and "Move to other folder" feature in my reader, this created a *.dbx file. You can open any file in Excel, which I did.
My goal was to use the "Auto Summary" in Word, to Summarize your writings. I extracted the text in a single manuever, I pasted the text into Word.
You alone posted over 7,800 words on the subject of Conan.
The "Auto Summary" was not fluid enough to share; but it certainly goes without saying you did in fact express your regret for having to return him. You took no delight in having to return him, and you definetely took alot of heat for it.
Now I believe Mary when she said it made her cry. I didn't know that until the other day. In retro, I think it is positive that everyone's views have been abundantly represented. Everyone does not see life through the same eyes; different backgrounds, different priorities etc.
How hot was hot today? Damn Hot! lol
Mary - 01 Jul 2005 23:51 GMT > I have been reading about Conan along with everyone else. I have read three > posts now and am not certain how Conan got rescued, where he is at now, and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thanks, > Jen Jen--a lady named Monica and some of her friends rescued Conan with Dan's help. It did not matter to anyone who got him out of there, that I know of. Some people did not want him to be adopted by Charlie Wilkes, due to some weird posts he made, so those people may not have wanted me to rescue him, since I thought Charlie would be fine.
In the end, it's a win for everyone. He is now in California, and Monica has told me that several people are interested in adopting him. One I know of is local, and one is our Meghan Noecker's sister. There may be others. Monica and her friends paid his adoption fee and do not want donations toward his upkeep-- or transportation, though I am not sure he will be transported. She asked that everyone give to their favorite shelters.
So--he is in safe, loving hands, being petted and pampered, and out of that shelter. I remember Monica from years back, and she appears to be very trustworthy. I have no doubt she will try her very best to find him the best home possible. Maybe ... just maybe we will get some updates from whoever does take him! I really want to see him happy and healthy and in his new home.
Jen M. - 02 Jul 2005 00:52 GMT Thanks for the up-date all! I am pleased that Conan is going to a good home.
Sincerely, Jen
>> I have been reading about Conan along with everyone else. I have read three >> posts now and am not certain how Conan got rescued, where he is at now, and [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >does take him! I really want to see him happy and healthy and >in his new home. Meghan Noecker - 02 Jul 2005 08:44 GMT >In the end, it's a win for everyone. He is now in California, and >Monica has told me that several people are interested in adopting >him. One I know of is local, and one is our Meghan Noecker's >sister. My sister's out. I was informed this morning. Sorry.
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Mary - 02 Jul 2005 08:49 GMT > >In the end, it's a win for everyone. He is now in California, and > >Monica has told me that several people are interested in adopting > >him. One I know of is local, and one is our Meghan Noecker's > >sister. > > My sister's out. I was informed this morning. Sorry. It has to be because they have nobody to transport him. I guess TracyRose could help, but in fact it would be best to spare him the traveling. Please tell her thank you from those of us who care about this cat.
Meghan Noecker - 02 Jul 2005 09:27 GMT >> >In the end, it's a win for everyone. He is now in California, and >> >Monica has told me that several people are interested in adopting [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >could help, but in fact it would be best to spare him the traveling. Please >tell her thank you from those of us who care about this cat. Rhonda was still up to trying. And if there wasn't a rush, then I'm sure she could have come up with a pass.
I was told it was because he wouldn't be able to look out windows, and her finances aren't good. I guess I won't call it a basement again as it never occured to me that it would be perceived as windowless or small. She's got half a house. (and two huge windows). And she is poor right now, but she's only working one job right now, so that means she has the time to do a good introduction and supervision.
It's over though, so no more what-ifs. I will tell my sister tomorrow to start looking elsewhere. I've been checking the local craiglist this evening. It's mostly kittens, pairs, and declawed cats. She just wants a single cat, adult, but still pretty active, and definitely with claws. Whisper is looking for a rough play kind of buddy. Booper plays, but not rough, so he doesn't like it. He'd rather just snuggle.
We'll find somebody. And this story did get her interested in finding Whisper a buddy, so it will get another cat rescued.
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Candace - 02 Jul 2005 09:53 GMT > We'll find somebody. And this story did get her interested in finding > Whisper a buddy, so it will get another cat rescued. Great! And it's been some story, that's for sure, and who knows if we'll ever know the whole story?!?!?!?! It's a Made for TV movie in the making...
Actually, it'd make a pretty good indie film, just bizarre enough to be very original and quirky. Lots of colorful characters. Some of the audience would think it was farfetched...
Who can write the script? And who can market it to an indie studio? Charlie?
Candace
Mary - 02 Jul 2005 14:58 GMT > >> >In the end, it's a win for everyone. He is now in California, and > >> >Monica has told me that several people are interested in adopting [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Rhonda was still up to trying. And if there wasn't a rush, then I'm > sure she could have come up with a pass. Yes, she was.
> I was told it was because he wouldn't be able to look out windows, and > her finances aren't good. I guess I won't call it a basement again as > it never occured to me that it would be perceived as windowless or > small. She's got half a house. (and two huge windows). And she is poor > right now, but she's only working one job right now, so that means she > has the time to do a good introduction and supervision. Well, I feel sure that when Monica and Dan tell us all about Conan's new home, it will be a doozy!
> It's over though, so no more what-ifs. I will tell my sister tomorrow > to start looking elsewhere. I've been checking the local craiglist [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > We'll find somebody. And this story did get her interested in finding > Whisper a buddy, so it will get another cat rescued. ;) For sure, there are so many that need homes.
Rhonda - 02 Jul 2005 18:04 GMT All of this without talking to you or her?
Rhonda
Megan Noecker wrote:
> I was told it was because he wouldn't be able to look out windows, and > her finances aren't good. I guess I won't call it a basement again as > it never occured to me that it would be perceived as windowless or > small. She's got half a house. (and two huge windows). And she is poor > right now, but she's only working one job right now, so that means she > has the time to do a good introduction and supervision. Meghan Noecker - 03 Jul 2005 08:08 GMT >All of this without talking to you or her? Yes, I argued back a bit, and after being told that I am bitter, she asked why my sister didn't email herself and argue her case.
Well, I thought we were trying not to nag and and hert email sounded like a final decision to me. I guess my sister was supposed to beg after being told she wasn't good enough. I thought the refusal straightforward, didn't realize it was still part of a negotiation.
It is over now. She has a lead on another cat, might see him tomorrow.
I'm not too happy with my theory of what happened, so I may just buzz off for awhile. I can't stop thinking about him, and that just brings me down more.
I'll let you know if my sister gets the other cat. He sounds like a good playmate for Whisper.
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Mary - 03 Jul 2005 13:31 GMT > >All of this without talking to you or her? > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > off for awhile. I can't stop thinking about him, and that just brings > me down more. Don't do that, Meghan. You're one of the good guys.
It is upsetting, but unfortunately, people can do this to cats. We've all learned a valuable lesson here. Each of us can decide for ourselves what that lesson is.
My heart just aches for this cat, who has now been in a cage for five days.
whitershadeofpale - 03 Jul 2005 14:39 GMT > Don't do that, Meghan. You're one of the good guys. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > My heart just aches for this cat, who has now been in a cage > for five days. Any port in the storm hey Mary!
Why you haven't been too long ago, pulling Megans pants down in front of everybody, WHAT WAS THIS THREAD YOU STARTED?
"Megan DOES Live in a 1-bedroom Apt. With 20-some cats"
You called her a NUT, and a liar - and was agressivly! ADAMANT! TOWARDS HER. Remember? Oh sure you do!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.health+behav/msg/66babbff613fa f5f?dmode=source&hl=en
Sorry Meghan, if you remember, I took up for you (not that you needed or asked for my help).
I can promise you this too, you won't get one chance to rub Conan in Philip's face. haha
equalizer - 03 Jul 2005 15:16 GMT >> Don't do that, Meghan. You're one of the good guys. >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >I can promise you this too, you won't get one chance to rub Conan in >Philip's face. haha manic-depress-o-meter®
Head in Oven Normal Flyin' High -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 !----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----! /\ !!
Rhonda - 03 Jul 2005 16:24 GMT Okay, this made me laugh so hard that cats started wondering into the room!
Rhonda
> manic-depress-o-meter® > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > /\ > !! Mary - 03 Jul 2005 17:56 GMT > >> Don't do that, Meghan. You're one of the good guys. > >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > /\ > !! Hee. Do you think he knows that was a different Megan? lol
whitershadeofpale - 03 Jul 2005 18:23 GMT > Hee. Do you think he knows that was a different Megan? lol I think you should put your apron on, and make a good mess in the kitchen, down on the floor, on the table, all up on the wall, heck it is Sunday, this would be a fine day for getting the oven hot.
whitershadeofpale - 05 Jul 2005 21:11 GMT > Hee. Do you think he knows that was a different Megan? lol No I didn't, I apologize.
<walks off, head down, hands in pockets of oversized pants, kicking a can>
whitershadeofpale - 05 Jul 2005 22:22 GMT > Hee. Do you think he knows that was a different Megan? lol big ol' biscuit makin' mamma!
Meghan Noecker - 04 Jul 2005 07:26 GMT >Why you haven't been too long ago, pulling Megans pants down in front >of everybody, WHAT WAS THIS THREAD YOU STARTED? > >"Megan DOES Live in a 1-bedroom Apt. With 20-some cats" I am Meghan (with an H). Mary was replying to me.
Megan is somebody else, the one you referred to later in the post.
We are completely different people.
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Philip - 04 Jul 2005 19:10 GMT >> Why you haven't been too long ago, pulling Megans pants down in front >> of everybody, WHAT WAS THIS THREAD YOU STARTED? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > We are completely different people. But are you two occupying the same body?
Meghan Noecker - 05 Jul 2005 03:17 GMT >>> Why you haven't been too long ago, pulling Megans pants down in front >>> of everybody, WHAT WAS THIS THREAD YOU STARTED? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >But are you two occupying the same body? Hell no!
I don't know where in the country she lives, but I'm sure anybody who cares can do a check on the IP numbers. I am in Seatac, Washington.
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Philip - 05 Jul 2005 06:17 GMT >>>> Why you haven't been too long ago, pulling Megans pants down in >>>> front of everybody, WHAT WAS THIS THREAD YOU STARTED? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I don't know where in the country she lives, but I'm sure anybody who > cares can do a check on the IP numbers. I am in Seatac, Washington. That is local shorthand for Seattle/Tacoma area.
Meghan Noecker - 05 Jul 2005 06:54 GMT >> I don't know where in the country she lives, but I'm sure anybody who >> cares can do a check on the IP numbers. I am in Seatac, Washington. > >That is local shorthand for Seattle/Tacoma area. Actually, Seatac is an actual city. Has been for 15 years now.
If you don't believe me, you can check out this link.
http://www.gonorthwest.com/washington/puget/SeaTac/SeaTac.htm
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Kitkat - 05 Jul 2005 06:55 GMT >>>I don't know where in the country she lives, but I'm sure anybody who >>>cares can do a check on the IP numbers. I am in Seatac, Washington. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://www.gonorthwest.com/washington/puget/SeaTac/SeaTac.htm Totally OT...but I just have to say that you live in a great place, Meghan. If DH and I were to relocate out of the midwest...the Pacific NW would DEFINITELY be the place.
not on topic, pam
:) Meghan Noecker - 05 Jul 2005 07:03 GMT >Totally OT...but I just have to say that you live in a great place, >Meghan. If DH and I were to relocate out of the midwest...the Pacific NW >would DEFINITELY be the place. It is a great place to live. When I was younger, we moved from Seattle to Iowa and lived there for 4 years. Good jobs were scarce, so we moved back to Seattle.
I will eventually get a place with some land as I want to have horses. But I will definitely stay in the same area. We do have some hot and cold, but not in the extreme.
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Philip - 05 Jul 2005 07:42 GMT >>> I don't know where in the country she lives, but I'm sure anybody who >>> cares can do a check on the IP numbers. I am in Seatac, Washington. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://www.gonorthwest.com/washington/puget/SeaTac/SeaTac.htm Yup, there it is. Mapquest confirms. But my edition (current) of Delorme Street Atlas does not list "Seatac". I'll drop Delorme a note.
friesian@zoocrewphoto.com - 05 Jul 2005 07:57 GMT > Yup, there it is. Mapquest confirms. But my edition (current) of Delorme > Street Atlas does not list "Seatac". I'll drop Delorme a note. No big deal. Everytime I place a phone order, the person questions it. They just assume I mean Seattle since everybody has heard of that one.
And UPS still changes our address to Kent since our house is on the Kent route. Our house is on the very edge of Seatac, a couple blocks east, south, or west will get you into Kent or Des Moines.
What's really funny is that Seatac Mall is not in Seatac. They finally changed the name of the mall this past year.
Philip - 05 Jul 2005 08:21 GMT >> Yup, there it is. Mapquest confirms. But my edition (current) of >> Delorme Street Atlas does not list "Seatac". I'll drop Delorme a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > What's really funny is that Seatac Mall is not in Seatac. They finally > changed the name of the mall this past year. So .... "SeaTac" is a mythical place existing ONLY in the minds of those who live there! LOL
Philip - 05 Jul 2005 08:31 GMT >> Yup, there it is. Mapquest confirms. But my edition (current) of >> Delorme Street Atlas does not list "Seatac". I'll drop Delorme a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > What's really funny is that Seatac Mall is not in Seatac. They finally > changed the name of the mall this past year. I found the problem. You misspelled your town's name. My Delorme Street Atlas software gives the spelling as TWO words. Sea Tac. Ever eat at the Bull Pen Publ Bar & Grill near S. 200th on International? LOL
Meghan Noecker - 05 Jul 2005 08:56 GMT >I found the problem. You misspelled your town's name. My Delorme Street >Atlas software gives the spelling as TWO words. Sea Tac. Ever eat at the >Bull Pen Publ Bar & Grill near S. 200th on International? LOL I've never seen it as 2 words. Some places, they capitalize the T, but even the official city website lists it as one word.
I've never been to the Bull Pen myself. I have asthma, so I don't go anywhere that allows smoking. But I know where you mean.
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Philip - 05 Jul 2005 16:54 GMT >> I found the problem. You misspelled your town's name. My Delorme >> Street Atlas software gives the spelling as TWO words. Sea Tac. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I've never been to the Bull Pen myself. I have asthma, so I don't go > anywhere that allows smoking. But I know where you mean. Next time you run into a postal / UPS problem, try "Sea Tac". It may well be the "work-around" that gets you your letter/package delivered.
friesian@zoocrewphoto.com - 05 Jul 2005 20:52 GMT > Next time you run into a postal / UPS problem, try "Sea Tac". It may well > be the "work-around" that gets you your letter/package delivered. There's never been any problem. My packages still arrive on time. We live on the edge of Seatac (yes, it really is one word). So, my packages go to the Kent Dsitribution center. And the trucke goes up the hill from Kent, past our house (in Seatac), and then turns south at the top of the hill, back into Kent. So, it is just easier for them to put our packages on the Kent truck. So, they cross out Seatac and write Kent on the label. We still have the best UPS service around. If it's not there by 9:15am, it ain't coming. Most packages arrived between 8:55 and 9:05 am. We are litterally at the beginning of their route.
And no, I will not write it as two words. That is how the airport is written, not the city. I am not going to deliberately misspell my own city. Nor have I had any reason to in the last 15 years.
Rhonda - 06 Jul 2005 00:41 GMT They did? I live a few miles from that mall, I just don't care for them.
What is the new name?
Rhonda
> What's really funny is that Seatac Mall is not in Seatac. They finally > changed the name of the mall this past year. Meghan Noecker - 06 Jul 2005 08:25 GMT >They did? I live a few miles from that mall, I just don't care for them. > >What is the new name? "The Commons"
At first, I thought it was just the name for the food court, but it is the mall name. I still call it SeaTac Mall :)
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whitershadeofpale - 05 Jul 2005 03:36 GMT > I am Meghan (with an H). Mary was replying to me. > > Megan is somebody else, the one you referred to later in the post. > > We are completely different people. Sorry to suggest that anyone was pulling your pants down. I feel right bad.
I'm sorry.
(no harm no foul?)
Meghan Noecker - 05 Jul 2005 03:44 GMT >(no harm no foul?) No problem. I'm suprised it hasn't happened more often.
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Philip - 03 Jul 2005 17:32 GMT >>> All of this without talking to you or her? >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > My heart just aches for this cat, who has now been in a cage > for five days. I believe it is safe to say that everybody here would favor you trading places with Conan (in a cage) for the foreseeable future. ;^)
As for deciding what each of us takes away from this experience, rest assured that all but the most introspective woman or two will learn nothing.
678jfjhdhdr - 03 Jul 2005 17:49 GMT >>>> All of this without talking to you or her? >>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >I believe it is safe to say that everybody here would favor you trading >places with Conan (in a cage) for the foreseeable future. ;^) I believe it's safe to say that everybody here is hoping that this becomes reality soon:
http://web.newsguy.com/equalizer/tombstone.jpg
>As for deciding what each of us takes away from this experience, rest >assured that all but the most introspective woman or two will learn nothing. whitershadeofpale - 03 Jul 2005 19:19 GMT <678jfjhdhdr>
> I believe it's safe to say that everybody here is hoping that this > becomes reality soon: > > http://web.newsguy.com/equalizer/tombstone.jpg Weird! when I first clicked on your link, I saw your photo When I looked in my browser cache, this photo was in there instead
http://www.barryparrish.com/Image2.jpg
equalizer - 03 Jul 2005 19:36 GMT ><678jfjhdhdr> >> I believe it's safe to say that everybody here is hoping that this [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >http://www.barryparrish.com/Image2.jpg LOL!!!
Meghan Noecker - 04 Jul 2005 06:46 GMT >> I'm not too happy with my theory of what happened, so I may just buzz >> off for awhile. I can't stop thinking about him, and that just brings >> me down more. > >Don't do that, Meghan. You're one of the good guys. It would probably just be for a couple weeks. I know I should just stay off for awhile, but I keep hoping that we will at least hear something.
It's just not doing me any good to get all stressed over this. I keep feeling sick, and that's not helping anything.
Even tonight, my sister said she was nervous about checking out the new possible cat as she is sure Conan will become available as soon as adopts a different cat. It's all my fault for suggesting Conan to her. I knew it was a long shot as there were others in line first. I should have just suggested a local cat to begin with.
I just need to do something constructive. I'm going to work on my web page for Jay Jay. I have the new photos, and I want to put a special one on there before I post it.
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Mary - 04 Jul 2005 07:54 GMT > >> I'm not too happy with my theory of what happened, so I may just buzz > >> off for awhile. I can't stop thinking about him, and that just brings [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > stay off for awhile, but I keep hoping that we will at least hear > something. That's the game Monica is playing and I promise you it is going to come back and bite her hard. Patience, and faith, Meghan.
Rhonda - 03 Jul 2005 16:25 GMT Meghan,
I'm sorry this happened, and I hope your sister saves a cat that needs a good home soon. Please let us know all about it!
Rhonda
>>All of this without talking to you or her? > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Equine and Pet Photography > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com Meghan Noecker - 04 Jul 2005 06:47 GMT >I'm sorry this happened, and I hope your sister saves a cat that needs a >good home soon. Please let us know all about it! Definitely.
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Rhonda - 02 Jul 2005 18:03 GMT I'm sorry Meghan, I hope your sis finds a good buddy for her cat. I know there is one just waiting for her!
Rhonda
>>In the end, it's a win for everyone. He is now in California, and >>Monica has told me that several people are interested in adopting [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Equine and Pet Photography > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com
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