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cmtowle - 28 Jun 2005 23:49 GMT
Hello Philip,

We have just become aware that Conan was vaccinated for FIV at the shelter
(and all of the cats there are!). I won't go into how angry we are about
this (it is a vaccine that is not recommended, but the deed is done and he
will test positive because of it). It is vital for us to get any records we
can also to be able to see when and if he was tested before vaccination.
Could you please e-mail me with a valid address or some way of contacting
you (I can also provide you privately with a fax number), so we can get this
ASAP.

Thank you so much,

M.
-L. - 29 Jun 2005 02:29 GMT
> Hello Philip,
>
> We have just become aware that Conan was vaccinated for FIV at the shelter
> (and all of the cats there are!).

Oh Jebus God almighty!
/me bangs head on desk...
-L.
Philip - 29 Jun 2005 03:45 GMT
>> Hello Philip,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> /me bangs head on desk...
> -L.

Hey ... I MADE A BIG STINK about the shelter vaccinating Omar (8 wk old
kitten) for FIV.  Shelter said this is required ... (state law?  I don't
know) and the kitten would not be released without all that.  Omar's
paperwork lists the FELV/FIV as part of a package of vaccinations. Not
surpriseingly, Omar caught mild sniffles and wet sneezes on the second day
and for the following 6days. He's fine now.
-L. - 29 Jun 2005 12:45 GMT
> >> Hello Philip,
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> kitten) for FIV.  Shelter said this is required ... (state law?  I don't
> know)

Not as far as I know.  The only legally required vaccine is rabies -
unless it is an OC law or something - which wouldn't surprise me.

>and the kitten would not be released without all that.  Omar's
> paperwork lists the FELV/FIV as part of a package of vaccinations. Not
> surpriseingly, Omar caught mild sniffles and wet sneezes on the second day
> and for the following 6days. He's fine now.

Those people have their heads up their butts.  There is no reason to do
an FIV vaccine.  Just keep in mind that me may test positive and may or
may not continue to test positive, for FIV, if he is tested for it.

The sad part is, if he gets loose and ends up at another shelter, and
you don't find him in time, he could be euthanized because he's "FIV
pos".

-L.
Philip - 30 Jun 2005 20:04 GMT
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>> Omar's
>> paperwork lists the FELV/FIV as part of a package of vaccinations. Not
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> -L.

Consider this:  When a "stray" is picked up that has not been chipped and
tests FIV+, be more likely to be euthanized than another stray who has been
chipped, and tests FIV+?  SURELY shelter DVMs know of this weakness in the
test by know.


Wendy - 29 Jun 2005 02:41 GMT
> Hello Philip,
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> M.

Isn't it SOP to test before giving the vaccination?

W
KellyH - 29 Jun 2005 02:53 GMT
> Isn't it SOP to test before giving the vaccination?
>
> W

One would think.  It's also really weird that this shelter gives the FIV
vacc.  I wonder why they waste their money?

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-Kelly

Philip - 29 Jun 2005 03:02 GMT
> Hello Philip,
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> M.

I will add your add your address to my "white list."  Please try emailing
again.
IBen Getiner - 29 Jun 2005 05:03 GMT
> Hello Philip,
>
> We have just become aware that Conan was vaccinated for FIV at the shelter
> (and all of the cats there are!).

Oh, gee... Really...?? Probably made them sick to death of him, too..

> I won't go into how angry we are about
> this (it is a vaccine that is not recommended, but the deed is done and he
> will test positive because of it).

You're the Doctor, obviously..

> It is vital for us to get any records we
> can also to be able to see when and if he was tested before vaccination.

What good will it do you now?

> Could you please e-mail me with a valid address or some way of contacting
> you (I can also provide you privately with a fax number), so we can get this
> ASAP.

Yeah... You can find it HERE:

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=fuck/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/SIG=12jfcan6l/EXP=1110532
760/*-http%3A//ww2.netnitco.net/~rustedshut/rage/images/16_fuck_you.jpg


> Thank you so much,
>
> M.

You are SOOOO very welcome!

                               IBen

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