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Mary - 28 Jun 2005 02:54 GMT
It is time for Cheeky's periodic shots, according to the
card I got from her vet.

They say rabies and distemper. It was three years ago that she had the
rabies shot--and I believe it is required by law every three years. Did you
tell me last timet that
I DO need to get her distemper shots, but not FIV?

Thanks!
KellyH - 28 Jun 2005 03:16 GMT
> It is time for Cheeky's periodic shots, according to the
> card I got from her vet.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> tell me last timet that
> I DO need to get her distemper shots, but not FIV?

I'm not Phil, but IMHO the FIV vacc is worthless.  It has not been proven to
be effective, and a side effect of the vacc is that the cat will test
positive for FIV on a snap test.  If Cheeks were to ever get out and picked
up by Animal Control with no ID, there is a possibility that they would test
her and put her down.  I'm not sure how long the cat shows positive after
receiving the vaccine.  Since it is so incredibly unlikely that an
indoor-only, spayed cat would ever contract FIV, I see no reason to get it.

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-Kelly

CatNipped - 28 Jun 2005 03:22 GMT
> > It is time for Cheeky's periodic shots, according to the
> > card I got from her vet.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> receiving the vaccine.  Since it is so incredibly unlikely that an
> indoor-only, spayed cat would ever contract FIV, I see no reason to get it.

That's exactly what my vet told me.  Since mine are all inside-only they get
a limited series of vacs.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Mary - 28 Jun 2005 18:22 GMT
> > It is time for Cheeky's periodic shots, according to the
> > card I got from her vet.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I'm not Phil,

No, but you will do nicely!

but IMHO the FIV vacc is worthless.  It has not been proven to
> be effective, and a side effect of the vacc is that the cat will test
> positive for FIV on a snap test.  If Cheeks were to ever get out and picked
> up by Animal Control with no ID, there is a possibility that they would test
> her and put her down.  I'm not sure how long the cat shows positive after
> receiving the vaccine.  Since it is so incredibly unlikely that an
> indoor-only, spayed cat would ever contract FIV, I see no reason to get it.

Thank, Kelly. But she does need he distemper, right?

It is time for her to have a Depo shot, so I will take her for that
first then the others a couple of weeks later. I will never let
them give her two or more shots at a time again, it make her
feel bad for days the last time.
KellyH - 28 Jun 2005 19:07 GMT
> Thank, Kelly. But she does need he distemper, right?
>
> It is time for her to have a Depo shot, so I will take her for that
> first then the others a couple of weeks later. I will never let
> them give her two or more shots at a time again, it make her
> feel bad for days the last time.

I think yes, but some people don't think it's neccessary with indoor-only
cats.  However, distemper is contagious and on the off chance that she gets
out and gets in contact with another cat, she could get it just from causual
contact.  It doesn't need to be every year like some vets insist, the vacc
will last for three years.  I always get it for my cats since I do bring
home strays.  Plus, I've seen cats with distemper and it is awful :(

If you don't mind making two trips to the vet, spacing it out is a good
idea.

-Kelly
Mary - 28 Jun 2005 19:12 GMT
> > Thank, Kelly. But she does need he distemper, right?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> will last for three years.  I always get it for my cats since I do bring
> home strays.  Plus, I've seen cats with distemper and it is awful :(

Yes, I saw a wild raccoon with it once, it really is.

> If you don't mind making two trips to the vet, spacing it out is a good
> idea.

Thanks for the input!
PawsForThought - 28 Jun 2005 20:07 GMT
> It is time for Cheeky's periodic shots, according to the
> card I got from her vet.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Thanks!

Hi Mary,
I'm kinda of surprised your vet is vaccinating Cheeks with her having
asthma, as it's an immune related disease.  Meesha is exempt since she
has asthma.  We only do rabies which is required by law.  I know it's a
tough decision to make.  I did a lot of reading on it and we, my vet
included, decided not to give Meesha booster shots.
Mary - 28 Jun 2005 20:09 GMT
> > It is time for Cheeky's periodic shots, according to the
> > card I got from her vet.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> tough decision to make.  I did a lot of reading on it and we, my vet
> included, decided not to give Meesha booster shots.

Lauren, the issue has not come up! Please tell me more.
PawsForThought - 29 Jun 2005 15:21 GMT
> > > It is time for Cheeky's periodic shots, according to the
> > > card I got from her vet.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Lauren, the issue has not come up! Please tell me more.

It was decided with Meesha that since vaccines do effect the immune
system and she is already immunocompromised that it would be best to
not further vaccinate her. The insert in the vaccine package says only
give to 100% healthy animals.  I would definitely speak to your vet
about it and see what he says.  Unfortunately my home computer is down
so I don't have any links handy, but this site offers some information
regarding annual vaccination:

http://www.britfeld.com/dvm.htm

Lauren
Mary - 29 Jun 2005 15:47 GMT
> > > > It is time for Cheeky's periodic shots, according to the
> > > > card I got from her vet.
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>
> Lauren

Thank you, Lauren!
PawsForThought - 29 Jun 2005 18:17 GMT
> "PawsForThought" <Mickey4Paws@anonymous.to> wrote in message
> Unfortunately my home computer is down
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Thank you, Lauren!

You're very welcome, Mary.  But maybe that site didn't have too much
info so I dug this one up.  If you scroll down past the article, there
are some links about re-vaccination:
http://home.earthlink.net/~pawsreflect/vaccinosis.html

Lauren
KellyH - 28 Jun 2005 20:18 GMT
> Hi Mary,
> I'm kinda of surprised your vet is vaccinating Cheeks with her having
> asthma, as it's an immune related disease.  Meesha is exempt since she
> has asthma.  We only do rabies which is required by law.  I know it's a
> tough decision to make.  I did a lot of reading on it and we, my vet
> included, decided not to give Meesha booster shots.

I forgot Cheeks was the one with asthma.  I would talk to your vet about it.
Probably depends on how severe the asthma is and her overall health.  When
Dash had CRF, my vet was actually the one who recommended against
vaccinations.

-Kelly
clfr@adelphia.net - 28 Jun 2005 21:49 GMT
> > Hi Mary,
> > I'm kinda of surprised your vet is vaccinating Cheeks with her having
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> -Kelly

Yes, when Debbie had chronic liver disease - & then CRF, my vets also
recommended against any vaccinations that weren't absolutely necessary.
They didn't want to put un-needed additonal stress on her system.

Cathy
Mary - 28 Jun 2005 21:54 GMT
> > > Hi Mary,
> > > I'm kinda of surprised your vet is vaccinating Cheeks with her having
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Cathy

I see. I will call my vet and talk with them about it.
Wendy - 29 Jun 2005 01:37 GMT
>> > Hi Mary,
>> > I'm kinda of surprised your vet is vaccinating Cheeks with her having
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Cathy

My vet stopped giving Tigger anything but the rabies shot a few years ago.
Said because of her age the risk wasn't worth the benefit particularly
because she was an indoor only cat living with indoor only cats.

W
Mary - 29 Jun 2005 01:49 GMT
> >> > Hi Mary,
> >> > I'm kinda of surprised your vet is vaccinating Cheeks with her having
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Said because of her age the risk wasn't worth the benefit particularly
> because she was an indoor only cat living with indoor only cats.

Well I am really glad I asked this question, because Cheeks, while young,
has severe allergies, EGC and asthma, and my Boo had a heart condition
and is (controlled) hyperthyroid. I think I need a new vet. They should
have made me aware of this issue. Thanks guys. (Yes, Phil, you
told me to get a new vet over a year ago.)
Phil P. - 29 Jun 2005 14:04 GMT
> It is time for Cheeky's periodic shots, according to the
> card I got from her vet.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> tell me last timet that
> I DO need to get her distemper shots, but not FIV?

If she had the one year booster after the kitten series FVRCP (distemper)
she'll probably never need another booster again.  The distemper
(parvovirus) vaccine confers solid protection for at least 8 years and
probably for life.  I can't remember the last time I saw or heard of
clinical distemper in an adult cat- its primarily a disease of kittens.

Rabies vax is governed by state law- some states require yearly vax- others
allow triennial vax.  In either case, make sure your vet uses *only* Purevax
vaccines.

Purevax is only licensed for one year, so, if your state allows triennial
vax, have her titer tested before revaccinating her.

Phil
Mary - 29 Jun 2005 15:46 GMT
> > It is time for Cheeky's periodic shots, according to the
> > card I got from her vet.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Purevax is only licensed for one year, so, if your state allows triennial
> vax, have her titer tested before revaccinating her.

Just what I needed to know. Thank you.

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