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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / June 2005Mary S. Provided False Information About Conan
I recently started reading this board, and have been following Conan's story! After reading some of the messages, I became extremely concerned about the fact that people could justify placing Conan with Charlie Wilkes. He would not provide a suitable home for Conan. Anyone who gets his cat high should not have a cat. From what I have seen over and over, he has shown that he neglects, and in my opinion abuses, animals. I cannot believe that anybody would even think about placing Conan there. It makes me ill to think about the situation. Anyways, what Mary said about the adoption and its process was completely false. I was on the phone with Katherine at the Orange County Shelter today, and nothing Mary has said is true. Conan is not presently at risk for being euthanized. Yes, he will be "re-evaluated" on Wednesday, but Katherine said that as long as he is in good health and is an adoptable cat, which we know he is, he will be kept longer. I don't think that leaving him in the shelter for a few more days so we could find a more suitable home would pose any sort of a problem. Mary claimed to have "arranged" for Conan to be picked up. Katherine said numerous times that the Orange County Shelter is a publicly-run government- funded organization, therefore, no one can arrange for an out-of-state adoption. Animals are adopted on a first-come, first-serve basis. If you have the money, you can have the cat. Katherine said she did not receive any applications from Charlie Wilkes, because they have no applications process and they do not do ANY sort of screening. It is not possible that anyone could have applied to adopt Conan, because they don't take applications. Despite, what Mary says, Katherine denied that any sort of out-of-state adoption had been approved, or ever would be. You don't have to believe me, call the shelter and ask yourself. Conan has some time, and I think it is a mistake for people to rush into this adoption. Take a little time, have some standards, and find Conan a good home. At this point, nobody should settle for someone like Charlie. Instead the focus should be put on finding a really wonderful home for Conan with someone that can give him all of the wonderful things he deserves.  SignatureA concerned cat lover > I recently started reading this board, and have been following Conan's story! > After reading some of the messages, I became extremely concerned about the [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > the focus should be put on finding a really wonderful home for Conan with > someone that can give him all of the wonderful things he deserves. None of this is true. I will phone Katherine now. >> I recently started reading this board, and have been following >> Conan's story! After reading some of the messages, I became extremely [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > None of this is true. I will phone Katherine now. Oh here we go YET AGAIN. I really feel sorry for Katherine. The poor woman (who I happen to know now) has more important things to do than deal with any more than one of you PsychoMoms. Pester Hector. LOL > I recently started reading this board, and have been following Conan's story! > After reading some of the messages, I became extremely concerned about the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > would even think about placing Conan there. It makes me ill to think about > the situation. So what you did was call Katherine and frighten her about Charlie Wilkes. > Anyways, what Mary said about the adoption and its process was completely > false. I was on the phone with Katherine at the Orange County Shelter today, > and nothing Mary has said is true. Conan is not presently at risk for being > euthanized. Yes, he will be "re-evaluated" on Wednesday, but Katherine said > that as long as he is in good health and is an adoptable cat, which we know > he is, he will be kept longer. As we have already discussed, Katherine has never admitted that they are a "kill" shelter. However, staff person Jessica said that they were. Katherine called me one week ago to tell me that Conan was up for "re-evaluation" on June 29. Now then, genius, what might this re-evaluation be for, if not for euthanization? >I don't think that leaving him in the shelter > for a few more days so we could find a more suitable home would pose any sort > of a problem. You do not know this for sure, so what you think is just not enough. > Mary claimed to have "arranged" for Conan to be picked up. I did indeed. I spoke with Katherine yesterday, and she agreed that Dan could come pick him up today. Katherine said > numerous times that the Orange County Shelter is a publicly-run government- > funded organization, therefore, no one can arrange for an out-of-state > adoption. What she said is that they, there at the shelter, cannot arrange an out-of-town adoption. They don't have the funds for it. >Animals are adopted on a first-come, first-serve basis. If you > have the money, you can have the cat. Katherine said she did not receive any > applications from Charlie Wilkes, because they have no applications process > and they do not do ANY sort of screening. Nobody said Charlie sent an application. >It is not possible that anyone > could have applied to adopt Conan, because they don't take applications. > Despite, what Mary says, Katherine denied that any sort of out-of-state > adoption had been approved, or ever would be. She approved it yesterday. > You don't have to believe me, call the shelter and ask yourself. I've left a message with Katherine to call me back and have spoken this minute with Marcos, who has promised to give her my message. > Conan has some time, and I think it is a mistake for people to rush into this > adoption. Take a little time, have some standards, and find Conan a good > home. At this point, nobody should settle for someone like Charlie. Instead > the focus should be put on finding a really wonderful home for Conan with > someone that can give him all of the wonderful things he deserves. I misrepresented nothing at all. What I suspect you did was frighten Katherine in an attempt to de-rail the adoption process. We'll see if you were successful or not. I pity the shelter employees. Perhaps y'all could let them do their jobs? Donate money directly to the shelter if you want to help. I don't understand paying the adoption fee for someone who goes in prepared to pay the fee. Matthew > I pity the shelter employees. Perhaps y'all could let them do their > jobs? Donate money directly to the shelter if you want to help. I > don't understand paying the adoption fee for someone who goes in > prepared to pay the fee. Yes, I agree. I guess I was hoping the fact that the fee was paid might get the shelter staff to nudge people in his direction. In any case, I am still willing (through Dan, who has the money) to reimburse anyone who adopts Conan. Don't pity the shelter staff too much, Matthew. Katherine is implying that there is not a chance Conan will be killed and there is indeed a chance. Otherwise, what is he being evaluated for on June 29th? snip > As we have already discussed, Katherine has never admitted that they > are a "kill" shelter. However, staff person Jessica said that they were. > Katherine > called me one week ago to tell me that Conan was up for "re-evaluation" > on June 29. Now then, genius, what might this re-evaluation be for, if > not for euthanization? AHHHH ... so it is you who leapt to a conclusion. OC shelter does dispose of animals according to a formula which I details much earlier. snip >> Conan has some time, and I think it is a mistake for people to rush >> into this adoption. Take a little time, have some standards, and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Katherine in an attempt to de-rail the adoption process. We'll see if > you were successful or not. In the future Mary, I bet you act swifty and ... alone ... in such rescue efforts from shelters. Involve few people as possible, get the job done quickly, decisively, and without publicity. Covert recues. > Conan has some time, and I think it is a mistake for people to rush into this > adoption. Take a little time, have some standards, and find Conan a good [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > A concerned cat lover Your concern is going to cause this cat his life. You shouldn't have meddled at this late stage of the game. Why didn't you pipe in earlier before all these people have worked on making arrangements? You should have kept out of it and now if Conan can't be sprung, his blood will be on your hands. a.shole. Candace >> Conan has some time, and I think it is a mistake for people to rush into this >> adoption. Take a little time, have some standards, and find Conan a good [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Candace I doubt if it's quite that dire. But the manager of the shelter must be getting very annoyed. I suggest Dan immediately drive to the shelter and take possession of the cat. He can tell the manager he is going to adopt Conan himself to resolve the dilemma. He can simply roll his eyes and spin his finger if she asks about all the phone calls. Then Dan can take him to the airport and put him on a plane to San Francisco or Seattle. The cat now has three options: me, the lady in San Francisco, and Meghan's sister. I am happy to be the adopter of last resort and defer to either of the others. Charlie > >> Conan has some time, and I think it is a mistake for people to rush into this > >> adoption. Take a little time, have some standards, and find Conan a good [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > San Francisco, and Meghan's sister. I am happy to be the adopter of > last resort and defer to either of the others. We just can't ask Dan to do this, Charlie. Nobody wishes to go against the shelter's policy--although yesterday it was perfectly fine to adopt Conan out of town, apparently it is not now. Katherine has not returned my call and likely will not, as the coward who called must have demonized both of us. See what TOO MUCH whining and bitching gets you!!!!!!!!!! >>>> Conan has some time, and I think it is a mistake for people to rush >>>> into this adoption. Take a little time, have some standards, and [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > has not returned my call and likely will not, as the coward who > called must have demonized both of us. It is perfectly ok for an adopting person to be from another state. This from Katherine Wilson's mouth to my ears this afternoon. ALL they care about is anybody stepping up to the plate, paying the fees, and taking possession. It's one unit moved through the system instead of the euthanaisia chamber. Ms Wilson is a busy woman managing all that goes on in the shelter. She knows now from my perspective WHAT you people are. She would not tell me anything directly and specific about your calls but I got the impression that you have worn thin your welcome. So ... get your mission accomplished by simply paying the fees and taking Conan home. It's that simple. All this petty qualifying crap is just to make yourselves feel important. I also took up the matter of personal information. You may have gotten somebody in deep yogurt if not suspended. >We just can't ask Dan to do this, Charlie. Nobody wishes to >go against the shelter's policy--although yesterday it was perfectly >fine to adopt Conan out of town, apparently it is not now. Katherine >has not returned my call and likely will not, as the coward who >called must have demonized both of us. We don't even know if that is a real policy since she just made it up. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >> We just can't ask Dan to do this, Charlie. Nobody wishes to >> go against the shelter's policy--although yesterday it was perfectly [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > We don't even know if that is a real policy since she just made it up. "She" being anyone who CALLED Ms. K. Wilson >>> Conan has some time, and I think it is a mistake for people to rush >>> into this adoption. Take a little time, have some standards, and [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Charlie There is no special "hold" on Conan whatsoever. But I see that now cats who are longer residents at the shelter and the ower relinquished cats have a little tag on their cage saying "Pet me, I love attention" So far, that seems to be the only fallout from the concern over Conan and indeed, it may just be a coincidence. As Katherince says (and is shelter policy) "If you like the cat, take it now while it is here!" > I recently started reading this board, and have been following Conan's story! > After reading some of the messages, I became extremely concerned about the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > that as long as he is in good health and is an adoptable cat, which we know > he is, he will be kept longer. FWIW, most shelters do periodic health checks of cats that are there for extended stays - this includes a vet or vet tech check, taking the cat's temp, and general health screen. This may be what was meant be "re-evaluation". Why - when they call the shelter - doesn't someone ask *exactly WHAT* they mean by "re-evaluation"...instead of all this speculation...? -L. > > I recently started reading this board, and have been following Conan's story! > > After reading some of the messages, I became extremely concerned about the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > speculation...? > -L. I asked Katherine that and she skirted the issue. If all you have to offer to those who are giving their time and money to help Conan is to tell even more people to "call the shelter," why bother? a.shole. > I asked Katherine that and she skirted the issue. Then you didn't ask the right question or press it enough. There is no reason they shouldn't tell you this information. She probably didn't want to hear you scream at her if she told you he would be euthanized, if your RL persona is anything nearly as acerbic as your OL one is. >If all you have to offer > to those who are giving their time and money to help Conan is to > tell even more people to "call the shelter," why bother? a.shole. "a.shole" me all you want. I have connections in LA - and have sent out feelers to see if anyone can do anything about the situation. I also have contributed anonymously to other situations that have arisen in the group in the past. I just didn't do it publicly and with fanfare and for attention. Like you. -L. > > I asked Katherine that and she skirted the issue. > > Then you didn't ask the right question or press it enough. There is no > reason they shouldn't tell you this information. She probably didn't > want to hear you scream at her if she told you he would be euthanized, > if your RL persona is anything nearly as acerbic as your OL one is. Lyn. You have already proven how stupid you are. You do not need to keep proving it over and over and over. > >If all you have to offer > > to those who are giving their time and money to help Conan is to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > in the group in the past. I just didn't do it publicly and with > fanfare and for attention. Like you. Right. I did a really bad thing. >>> I recently started reading this board, and have been following >>> Conan's story! After reading some of the messages, I became [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > offer to those who are giving their time and money to help Conan is to > tell even more people to "call the shelter," why bother? a.shole. Funny, she answered that very question very succinctly when I asked what "evaluation date" meant. Or maybe you never called Katherine at all. > Funny, she answered that very question very succinctly when I asked what > "evaluation date" meant. Or maybe you never called Katherine at all. What was her answer? -L. >> Funny, she answered that very question very succinctly when I asked >> what "evaluation date" meant. Or maybe you never called Katherine at [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -L. Each and every animal is evaluated every ten days based on either its arrival date or the date the animal was put in a public viewing cage. In order to "pass inspection" the animal must appear / be healthy, be cordial, and not too old. Those are the basic criteria for getting another ten day stay in Hotel California. > Each and every animal is evaluated every ten days based on either its > arrival date or the date the animal was put in a public viewing cage. In > order to "pass inspection" the animal must appear / be healthy, be cordial, > and not too old. Those are the basic criteria for getting another ten day > stay in Hotel California. Ok, what that tells me is that every 10 days the cat may or may not get a reprieve from being on the kill list. They cull every day, and so have to choose who gets culled. So I would ascertain that he *will* be at risk of being killed, depending on what other animals he is "up against". They may also have a limit on how long they keep any one animal. That limit depends on a lot of factors - the primary one being how full the shelter is. -L. >> Each and every animal is evaluated every ten days based on either its >> arrival date or the date the animal was put in a public viewing cage. In [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > -L. The problem for a boy like Conan is that, although he is a very pretty cat, he's an adult in a shelter during kitten season and he's male. Unless people in CA are totally different that those in this part of the world, male cats will (in general) sit longer than females. His good looks are only going to get him so far. How long can he spend in the cage before getting depressed? Then he won't show as well and that will shorten his 'shelf life' His best bet this time of year is someone coming to the shelter specifically looking for an adult. W >>> Each and every animal is evaluated every ten days based on either its >>> arrival date or the date the animal was put in a public viewing cage. In [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > people in CA are totally different that those in this part of the world, > male cats will (in general) sit longer than females. "We" Californians ARE totally different. Ask anyone who has visited here from another state! LOL > His good looks are only going to get him so far. How long can he spend in > the cage before getting depressed? Then he won't show as well and that > will shorten his 'shelf life' His best bet this time of year is someone > coming to the shelter specifically looking for an adult. > > W Wendy ... are you on anyone's payroll for marketing expertise? True this is kitten season and three different people including "Katherine" have said "this is largest kitten season we've seen in years." I would still have Conan but for my veterinary's advice .... and did wind up with a kitten myself. It's the socialization of a kitten that is attractive to me. But Conan was pretty much "there" as an adult which is largely the reason I adopted him. In this important aspect, Conan is still an attractive pet/ in my view. >>>> Each and every animal is evaluated every ten days based on either its >>>> arrival date or the date the animal was put in a public viewing cage. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > reason I adopted him. In this important aspect, Conan is still an > attractive pet/ in my view. I have no clue what the marketing expertise comment means. No I'm on nobody's payroll. I volunteer for a rescue group. I foster cats (I have 8 fosters currently) and take cats to PetSmart on Saturdays to show them and try to find them good homes. He is a gorgeous pet. But too many others find "the socialization of a kitten" to be attractive too. This is kitten season and they are available in spades. For the brief time of year when kittens aren't as available people have to take a look at the full sized cats. Conan would have no trouble getting adopted in a flash at that time. He's a handsome guy and from what you said a personable one as well. Well I know Californians are different but didn't know if the preference for female cats held true there or not. There seem to be a lot of people here who fear males will start spraying all over their house and other not so endearing behavior that is attributed to male cats. It doesn't seem to sink in that male cats aren't the only ones who can spray and that neutering will take care of most of their concerns <sigh> so the boys tend to sit a little longer than the girls in my experience at least. All of last summer's kittens we still had in the winter were boys. W <snip> > Well I know Californians are different but didn't know if the preference for > female cats held true there or not. not in my experience. I have not seen a sex preference. >There seem to be a lot of people here > who fear males will start spraying all over their house and other not so [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > longer than the girls in my experience at least. All of last summer's > kittens we still had in the winter were boys. I have seen more of a color preference than anything else. Black cats die in droves. :*( -L. > <snip> > > > Well I know Californians are different but didn't know if the preference for > > female cats held true there or not. > > not in my experience. I have not seen a sex preference. At the grooming place where you worked? Or when was the last time you worked in rescue? At a shelter? Or anywhere that would even begin to qualify you to think that your "experience" is relevant? > > <snip> > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > At the grooming place where you worked? I didn't work at a "grooming place". Grooming was part of my job as a vet tech at a high-volume feline specialty hospital. But you already know this since you stalk me. I was really good at it, so also supervised others. I also ran the ward - making sure the admitted cats were well cared-for and nursed properly. I supervised 6 or 7 people most of the time. This was the only time I had a paid position in the veterinary field and I did it for fun and extra pocket money. I am retired from my "real" career as a plant molecular biologist. I retired in 1999 at the age of 36 - and was able to do so mainly because of wise investments. But again, you know this already, as you stalk me. >Or when was > the last time you worked in rescue? Currently do as a volunteer. >At a shelter? The last shelter I worked at (again, as a violunteer) was the Silicon Valley Humane Society in 2002. >Or anywhere > that would even begin to qualify you to think that your "experience" > is relevant? My experience is extremely relevant, as any long-time poster to this forum can tell you. I have been in "the field" for 17+ years helping animals - not just cats. OTOH, I highly suspect you don't even know where your local shelter is. Let me tell you - it's the Lake County Animal shelter in Garner, NC. I know because I used to volunteer there, as well. -L. > > > <snip> > > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > vet tech at a high-volume feline specialty hospital. But you already > know this since you stalk me. Do I stalk you? How could I? I have never even googles you? Do you define "stalking" as my mentioning that your husband's name is Will and your son's name is Jonathan? No, that can't be stalking, because you put this information out there, online. The nice mommy who emailed me sent tinyurls. :) So, since stalking is a crime, and I have not committed anything like this, you have just libeled me. I would love to be a fly on the wall when Jonathan finds your archived posts defending an old cracker like Philip who is likely as racist as he is sexist. Particularly when the reasons you defend him are only that he cannot stand me--when my only crime has been getting upset that he threw away a lovely cat after leading him to think he had a home--all because he had a bad cold. You are the Lyn who is in Oregon, right? The self-proclaimed "Socialist?" The last Socialist in the world, aren't you now? The same Lyn who apparently spills her guts about everything from her reproductive problems to her facist pro-censorship activities all over Usenet in groups like alt.support.infertility? And alt.support.infertility.parenting? The Lyn who used to live in Indiana, isn't it? I was really good at it, so also > supervised others. I also ran the ward - making sure the admitted cats > were well cared-for and nursed properly. I supervised 6 or 7 people > most of the time. This was the only time I had a paid position in the > veterinary field and I did it for fun and extra pocket money. But you did not say WHEN and for how LONG you did this? Because my original question was, what is the source of your vast knowledge on whether there is a bias toward cats of one sex or another in California shelters, remember? I am > retired from my "real" career as a plant molecular biologist. I > retired in 1999 at the age of 36 - and was able to do so mainly because > of wise investments. But again, you know this already, as you stalk > me. There you go again. Risky, risky business for a little housewife and Mommy to engage in. Try to remember your lesson, Lynnie. :) You can learn. I know that you can. >> > > <snip> >> > > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > that he threw away a lovely cat after leading him to think > he had a home--all because he had a bad cold. Well if you want to charge Lyn with libel, then I can charge you with the same. Gee ... aren't you the one to spread joy and cheer amoung the ranks. > >> > > <snip> > >> > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Well if you want to charge Lyn with libel, then I can charge you with the > same. Gee ... aren't you the one to spread joy and cheer amoung the ranks. Reading comprehension, Philip. Nobody said anythng about charging anyone with anything. And I have not libeled you because it is not libel when it is TRUE. But you know that. Did you get the PayPal yet? >> "Mary" <marys@catlover.com> wrote in message > news:42c18a05_3@x-privat.org... [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Did you get the PayPal yet? When a payment is credited to my account, I recieve and automated notice. Should I be expecting payment? > >> "Mary" <marys@catlover.com> wrote in message > > news:42c18a05_3@x-privat.org... [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > When a payment is credited to my account, I recieve and automated notice. > Should I be expecting payment? You bet! I think you should hold your breath. :) > Do I stalk you? How could I? I have never even googles you? > Do you define "stalking" as my mentioning that your husband's name > is Will and your son's name is Jonathan? No, that can't be stalking, > because you put this information out there, online. The nice mommy > who emailed me sent tinyurls. :) Riiiiight. Since I haven't mentioned my husband's name in....oh, I dunno - two years or so, you had to do some really deep digging to find that. Or perhaps some small-minded dickwad *is* feeding you information. I wouldn't doubt it. I have proudly done my share to piss off the Religious Right, and since you seem to be a defender of the Right to Life camp, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if one of those Fundie twits I pissed off thinks they are "getting even" by feeding you information. Sad life that you both lead, if so. > So, since stalking is a crime, and I have not committed anything > like this, you have just libeled me. OOOH! I am SOOO SCARED! Get over yourself, twit. Everyone on this ng knows you have stalked me for months. And let me give you an education in libel: you have to prove damages. Seeing that you damage your own repuation far more than anyone else *ever* could, I won't be sweating anytime soon. > I would love to be a fly on the wall when Jonathan finds > your archived posts defending an old cracker like Philip > who is likely as racist as he is sexist. Particularly when > the reasons you defend him are only that he cannot > stand me-- Nope. I am not "defending" him on his sexist attitude. I merely said I suspect it was tongue-in-cheek. >when my only crime has been getting upset > that he threw away a lovely cat after leading him to think > he had a home--all because he had a bad cold. You really think that's your "only crime"? Really? What you said to Phillip was unconscionable, but *somewhat* understandable because I think (unlike people) you do care about cats. It's the treatment of and consideration for people you seem to have a real problem with. Not just one or two, but almost everyone in this ng. From Kelly H. to Phillip and everyone in-between. Heck, you were even Megan's friend once. The only one you haven't treated like sh.t at one time or another is CatCrapped. But that's to be expected - she's the "me too" to your self-aggrandized "Big Dog". She's the only advocate you have. Nobody but yourselves take you seriously. > You are the Lyn who is in Oregon, right? The self-proclaimed > "Socialist?" The last Socialist in the world, aren't you now? Showing your ignorance, once again...I have no provbel stating I am a Socialist. In fact, I am proud to be a Socialist. You should try caring about other people sometime.... > The same Lyn who apparently spills her guts about everything > from her reproductive problems to her facist pro-censorship > activities all over Usenet in groups like alt.support.infertility? > And alt.support.infertility.parenting? The Lyn who used to live > in Indiana, isn't it? I'm not ashamed of anything I have ever posted - especially not ashamed of anything I have ever posted in the above-mentioned support groups. What you need to be ashamed of is purposely using that information - from a SUPPORT group - in order to try to "defame" me. Is nothing sacred to you? You have already shown that the privacy of a baby isn't sacred to you. Remember, I have never used J's name on Usenet. Never. Big Bad Mary. All she can come up with is the name of my 17 month old kid, my husband's name, where I live and have lived and the fact that I carry a few extra pounds. My, aren't you tough! Let me give you a hint: Good trolls are much more subtile than you. What's really funny is you think this posting information some how is detrimental to me. In the mean time, I hooked you, big time. I guess we won't be hearing any more whining about "trojans", now, will we? Tisk, Tisk... > I was really good at it, so also > > supervised others. I also ran the ward - making sure the admitted cats [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > vast knowledge on whether there is a bias toward cats of > one sex or another in California shelters, remember? No, your orginal questions were: "At the grooming place where you worked? Or when was the last time you worked in rescue? At a shelter? Or anywhere that would even begin to qualify you to think that your "experience" is relevant? " I think I answered those. If you are now saying you want to know when and for how long I worked in rescue in California, the answer would be 2000-2003. I worked for a number of organizations in the Bay area, primarily doing spay and neuter education. But I don't think you really want to know this. I think the above was just another *sad* attemp to defame me, yet again. > I am > > retired from my "real" career as a plant molecular biologist. I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > There you go again. Risky, risky business for a little housewife > and Mommy to engage in. Like I said, I'm really scared. Get a f.cking life, you boor. I'm going back to my RS activities. Have at it. I am sure it will give your petty mind much pleasure. -L. > > Do I stalk you? How could I? I have never even googles you? > > Do you define "stalking" as my mentioning that your husband's name [quoted text clipped - 114 lines] > > -L. And the lesson is, once again, and as many times as you need to hear it, until you get it: If you can dish it out but you can't take it, it is best to hand in your f.cking spoon. :) HTH. HANN. > And the lesson is, once again, and as many times as you need to > hear it, until you get it: > > If you can dish it out but you can't take it, it is best to hand in > your f.cking spoon. :) HTH. HANN. You're the one with the spoon - up your a.s apparently. -L. >> And the lesson is, once again, and as many times as you need to >> hear it, until you get it: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >-L. Just curious -- would you have allowed yourself to post that in *your* moderated group? Just curious..... eq > >> And the lesson is, once again, and as many times as you need to > >> hear it, until you get it: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Just curious -- would you have allowed yourself to post that in *your* > moderated group? Just curious..... *snicker* >>> And the lesson is, once again, and as many times as you need >>> to hear it, until you get it: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > eq You're adding fuel to the fire for the need for a split from this group. YOu know that, right? I like you off and on (you probably don't care) and I'd like to KF you after this recent Conan thingie, but you change your ID and email so I can't. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > >>> And the lesson is, once again, and as many times as you need > >>> to hear it, until you get it: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > You're adding fuel to the fire for the need for a split from this > group. YOu know that, right? Are you high, or just sick? So WHAT? You whiners who need to have things the way they were in the "good old days" and others who want to censor and control for other reasons need to get the f.ck into a moderated group where you can then fight with the other control freaks over control. I can see you now. "WHO is going to moderatte? HER??" Bwa ha! I like you off and on (you probably > don't care) and I'd like to KF you after this recent Conan thingie, > but you change your ID and email so I can't. wahh, wahh, wahh. Try a bit of self control. > I like you off and on (you probably >> don't care) and I'd like to KF you after this recent Conan >> thingie, but you change your ID and email so I can't. > > wahh, wahh, wahh. Try a bit of self control. Yah, I guess I just have to skip over posts from users with no vowels. There's no regex for that. That I know of. My time is limited. Not all day reading. Seriously Mary, I don't know how you make a living with your home business with as much time that you have for Usenet. My [virtual] hat is off to you. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > > I like you off and on (you probably > >> don't care) and I'd like to KF you after this recent Conan [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > make a living with your home business with as much time that you have > for Usenet. My [virtual] hat is off to you. Why thank you. But I swear, I work like a dawg. A cat would not be caught dead working this much. :) > Yah, I guess I just have to skip over posts from users with no > vowels. There's no regex for that. That I know of. My time is > limited. Not all day reading. Seriously Mary, I don't know how you > make a living with your home business with as much time that you have > for Usenet. My [virtual] hat is off to you. It's easy since she sells Avon for a living. -L. > > Yah, I guess I just have to skip over posts from users with no > > vowels. There's no regex for that. That I know of. My time is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It's easy since she sells Avon for a living. What is Avon? > > And the lesson is, once again, and as many times as you need to > > hear it, until you get it: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You're the one with the spoon - up your a.s apparently. I really wanted to say that this at least *approaches* wit. But alas ... > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > -L. Pigment-ism. Emphasis on the first three letters. I recall the paper stating black cats would not be adopted out during Halloween week and one other pagan holiday due to ritual sacrificing. Awful people. > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > -L. That's the same here except ours don't die they just take a reallllllly long time to find a home for. We had one sweet solid black boy for over a year but we finally got him a really great home. :o) > >> Each and every animal is evaluated every ten days based on either its > >> arrival date or the date the animal was put in a public viewing cage. In [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > bet this time of year is someone coming to the shelter specifically looking > for an adult. You know, I have never thought about it, but when I adopted Cheeks it was November and there were no kittens at all. I was not looking for a kitten--but that just never occurred to me before. When is prime kitten season? > You know, I have never thought about it, but when I adopted Cheeks it > was November and there were no kittens at all. I was not looking for > a kitten--but that just never occurred to me before. When is prime > kitten season? There are two kitten seasons - Spring and Fall. The prime months are May - June and August - September. But it depends on what area of the country you live in - it is affected by weather, among other factors. Most rescue groups consider April through October to be "kitten season". -L. >> >> Each and every animal is evaluated every ten days based on either its >> >> arrival date or the date the animal was put in a public viewing cage. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > a kitten--but that just never occurred to me before. When is prime > kitten season? Pretty much the warm months for the majority. My last foster kitten last fall was probably born the end of September early October and we started seeing early litters this year in February. We had a mild early winter thought so that's probably why we were seeing kittens that early. We had a lot of URI with the early ones and lost litters in spite of getting mom inside before she delivered. Just not soon enough I guess. > You know, I have never thought about it, but when I adopted Cheeks it > was November and there were no kittens at all. I was not looking for > a kitten--but that just never occurred to me before. When is prime > kitten season? Spring & summer, AFAIK. Cathy Is this Karen V, the one with the Ebay auctions? Bwaaa haaa haaa... Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I did a little sleuthing because I am so pissed. Rhonda > I recently started reading this board, and have been following Conan's story! > After reading some of the messages, I became extremely concerned about the [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > the focus should be put on finding a really wonderful home for Conan with > someone that can give him all of the wonderful things he deserves.
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