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Conan?
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Lesley - 24 Jun 2005 12:20 GMT Please ignore the other heading with no message if it comes through (I am very hot and I think my brain has melted)
Anyway....
What is the news on Conan? How is he? Has he found a new home? What's happening?
Lesley
Slave of the Fabulous Furballs- who also want to know
Mary - 24 Jun 2005 16:14 GMT > Please ignore the other heading with no message if it comes through (I > am very hot and I think my brain has melted) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Slave of the Fabulous Furballs- who also want to know No word from shelter manager Hector yet so I guess that means he has not yet been adopted. He will not be "re-evaluated" until June 29 so presumably he is safe until then. Hector (and Katherine, who is the weekend shelter manager) knows that I want to be notified when someone is interested so that I can pay his fee and make a nice donation to the shelter. I will call Katherine tomorrow to remind her.
Dan from rpca has volunteered to pick Conan up if he is in danger of being euthanized, or if I find him a local home. But he cannot keep him, even to foster him. I know two people in the LA area--one is out of the country at the moment, but a BIG cat person--and the other is a client who I don't know much about. I am working up the courage to ask the latter if she knows anyone who might want him, and I have an email out to the former, but I think she is not online until she is back in the states.
That is where we stand. Nobody else seems to be doing anything to find him a home and I don't know what else to do.
Philip - 24 Jun 2005 16:51 GMT >> Please ignore the other heading with no message if it comes >> through (I [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > That is where we stand. Nobody else seems to be doing anything to > find him a home and I don't know what else to do. When I visited Conan on Tuesday, there was NO INDICATION on his cage that there was an adoption subsidy available for Conan. Might you ask Hector or Katherine to put a sign on his cage to that effect? On that same placard, you could add a blurb about Conan's favorable disposition and socialization.
:^) Candace - 24 Jun 2005 17:41 GMT > When I visited Conan on Tuesday, there was NO INDICATION on his cage that > there was an adoption subsidy available for Conan. Might you ask Hector or > Katherine to put a sign on his cage to that effect? On that same placard, > you could add a blurb about Conan's favorable disposition and socialization. > :^) I believe she didn't want someone to choose him just because he was free but because they wanted him and then finding out his adoption was paid for would be a bonus.
Do *you* know of any no-kill shleters in the area we could get him into for a nice donation? You're retired and local, you could make some calls. Those shelters love getting hefty donations.
Candace
Mary - 24 Jun 2005 17:46 GMT > > When I visited Conan on Tuesday, there was NO INDICATION on his cage that > > there was an adoption subsidy available for Conan. Might you ask Hector or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > free but because they wanted him and then finding out his adoption was > paid for would be a bonus. Philip is an idiot. We have already discussed what happens if there is a "free cat" offered--I reported on Katherine Wilson's conversation with me the day I had it with her. The point is, as I have said at least three times, that the person who gets him really wants him and does not pick him--then throw him away as Philip did--because he was just a free cat.
> Do *you* know of any no-kill shleters in the area we could get him into > for a nice donation? You're retired and local, you could make some > calls. Those shelters love getting hefty donations. We don't need Philip anywhere near Conan. Can you believe he actually went to see him, after abandoning him? Then walked out. Miserable a.shole.
Philip - 25 Jun 2005 00:48 GMT >>> When I visited Conan on Tuesday, there was NO INDICATION on his >>> cage that there was an adoption subsidy available for Conan. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > actually went to see him, after abandoning him? Then walked out. > Miserable a.shole. Mary ... you manipulating old battleaxe, you *want* me to go readopt Conan. You protesteth too much.
Hope someday you can afford to get psychotherapy regarding your abandonment and need for male attention issues. LOL
Wendy - 26 Jun 2005 16:12 GMT > >>> When I visited Conan on Tuesday, there was NO INDICATION on his > >>> cage that there was an adoption subsidy available for Conan. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Hope someday you can afford to get psychotherapy regarding your abandonment > and need for male attention issues. LOL Phillip you truly are an a.shole.
Philip - 25 Jun 2005 00:34 GMT >> When I visited Conan on Tuesday, there was NO INDICATION on his >> cage that there was an adoption subsidy available for Conan. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Candace I placed a couple of calls. There are no county funded "no kill" shelters here ... at all. BUT, there is the Orange County Humane Society in Huntington Beach (still in OC) who is supposed to be a "no-kill", funded by volunteers and donations, etc. 714-536-8480. They are open normal business hours. The OCHS is about 14 miles from the OC County Shelter.
Candace - 24 Jun 2005 17:42 GMT > When I visited Conan on Tuesday, there was NO INDICATION on his cage that > there was an adoption subsidy available for Conan. Might you ask Hector or > Katherine to put a sign on his cage to that effect? On that same placard, > you could add a blurb about Conan's favorable disposition and socialization. > :^) I believe she didn't want someone to choose him just because he was free but because they wanted him and then finding out his adoption was paid for would be a bonus.
Do *you* know of any no-kill shleters in the area we could get him into for a nice donation? You're retired and local, you could make some calls. Those shelters love getting hefty donations.
Candace
Candace - 24 Jun 2005 17:39 GMT > That is where we stand. Nobody else seems to be doing anything to find him a > home and I don't know what else to do. I'm sorry, I wish I could do something constructive to help but I don't even know anyone in the LA area. I know it's hard for you to do anything being so far away. Everytime I think of Conan, I feel sick. I worry about Dan having so much going on with Harri at this time and then maybe having to pick Conan up, too. Didn't Dan say at one time that he would be able to get Conan into a no-kill shelter? I know he hasn't had the time to make inquiries probably. It's all just not meshing together...
All I can offer is money and prayers. I'm sure all the other people who initially offered money will still be good for it.
What can we do, it's all too awful.
Candace
Mary - 24 Jun 2005 17:42 GMT > > That is where we stand. Nobody else seems to be doing anything to find him a > > home and I don't know what else to do. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > What can we do, it's all too awful. Don't worry, Candace, we will find him a home. I just wish we had more readers/posters in his area. It will work out.
Philip - 25 Jun 2005 00:34 GMT >> That is where we stand. Nobody else seems to be doing anything to >> find him a home and I don't know what else to do. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Candace Well Candace, you COULD drive to Orange County (about 400 miles for you, if in the Phoenix area) and get him yourself. 725 miles round trip... @ 25 mpg ... 29 gallons ... at $2.50 per gallon ... $72. Add in a motel stay for $50 if you are not a "Road Warrior". How concerned are you?
KellyH - 25 Jun 2005 00:59 GMT > Well Candace, you COULD drive to Orange County (about 400 miles for you, > if in the Phoenix area) and get him yourself. 725 miles round trip... @ > 25 mpg ... 29 gallons ... at $2.50 per gallon ... $72. Add in a motel stay > for $50 if you are not a "Road Warrior". How concerned are you? In case you hadn't noticed, she has a critically ill cat that she can't leave. Stop telling people what they should be doing, like you're one to talk.
 Signature -Kelly
Philip - 25 Jun 2005 01:18 GMT >> Well Candace, you COULD drive to Orange County (nearly 400 miles >> for you, if in the Phoenix area) and get him yourself. 725 miles [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > In case you hadn't noticed, she has a critically ill cat that she > can't leave. Get a sitter! Or pay someone's fuel bill for the "road trip."
> Stop telling people what they should be doing, like you're one to > talk. Kelly, would you like directions?. :^D
There is a difference between suggestions and directives, Kelly.
PawsForThought - 25 Jun 2005 01:40 GMT > Well Candace, you COULD drive to Orange County (about 400 miles for you, if > in the Phoenix area) and get him yourself. 725 miles round trip... @ 25 mpg > ... 29 gallons ... at $2.50 per gallon ... $72. Add in a motel stay for $50 > if you are not a "Road Warrior". How concerned are you? You are unfuckingbelievable. What a loser! You expect other people to clean up your mess, and then you insult them on top of it.
Mary - 25 Jun 2005 01:45 GMT > > Well Candace, you COULD drive to Orange County (about 400 miles for you, if > > in the Phoenix area) and get him yourself. 725 miles round trip... @ 25 mpg [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You are unfuckingbelievable. What a loser! You expect other people to > clean up your mess, and then you insult them on top of it. He actually went to see him, saw Conan's relief at seeing him, and turned and walked away.
Philip - 25 Jun 2005 02:34 GMT >>> Well Candace, you COULD drive to Orange County (about 400 miles >>> for you, if in the Phoenix area) and get him yourself. 725 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > He actually went to see him, saw Conan's relief at seeing him, and > turned and walked away. Oh I did a MUCH MORE DIABOLICAL THING than turn away. I spent some time playing with Conan while the vet tech looked on.
How come you're not out here by now? Are you still letting your husband tell you what to do about cat matters? Huh? LOL
Trish Dunphy - 25 Jun 2005 03:52 GMT > Well Candace, you COULD drive to Orange County (about 400 miles for you, if > in the Phoenix area) and get him yourself. 725 miles round trip... @ 25 mpg > ... 29 gallons ... at $2.50 per gallon ... $72. Add in a motel stay for $50 > if you are not a "Road Warrior". How concerned are you? Once AGAIN! Phillip you feel a need to egg on everyone here. What's your problem. Get the facts right.. you've arsed up... you were selfish and irresponsible, and no matter how hard you try to turn it around, it makes you look silly. Face up to it, be adventurous and try something new, admit you were more concerned about the dollar and less about Conan... oh wait Conan has a dollar value attached to him now... got you thinking doesn't it "geez interesting maybe just maybe if I slowly integrate myself back in some of that green may splash over onto me"... keep thinking silly rabbit
Phillip, perhaps a lengthy visit at the nearest psychological institution is needed for you, because man you have some serious issues going on in your head. Let's get a few things straight... 1. you're pathetic; 2. you're not funny... you may think your snide remarks are humourous but in reality they are very telling of your personality, 3. you're pathetic.
And after giving much thought to this, I don't believe you ever took Conan to a vet. Why do I say this? Becuase you can't stand being told you're wrong and having been made a fool of. And you're letting you're supposed vet make a fool of you. Nah with your ego and hunger to always be right and aiming for one-upmanship, you'd never take the fall alone, yet in your limitless list of excuses we hear the same one over and over again regarding the vet, like a broken record. C'mon little boy, you know damn well if there was a dollar to be made here, you'd be on it in a second, so why aren't you dogging the vet more, going after your vet legally for misdiagnosing Conan... and puleeeze don't tell me that's not how you operate. You're a cheap egocentric moron... I'm guessing you ask for change back from the homeless... So, the bottom line is I do not believe your vet story... you're credibility is nothing here, so why should we believe you visited Conan at the shelter, and why should we believe anything you say about Conan's shelter situation....
And yes, I do bring this down to money because it's the only reason you give for tossing Conan back. As for how concerned are people, well as I stated when I first learned of Conan's plight, I will provide monetary assistance... it is the best I can do as I'm in Canada and have a small apartment and 4 pets as is, Others here will also stand by their offers, not everyone is as self absorbed as you. So, have some decency and stop writing sh*t like what you wrote above, you of all people have no right to offer any comments on Conan, especially when they are filled with a mocking childish tone.
Trish
Philip - 25 Jun 2005 05:01 GMT >> Well Candace, you COULD drive to Orange County (about 400 miles for >> you, [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Trish Wow! Another one who says she wants the truth and when she gets the truth, cannot handle the truth. Your man hating fantasy is worthy of institutional commitment. What you "think" (and I use the term loosely)(more accurately, fanaticize) matters not a pinch of cat poop in a snow storm. LOL Now write that check to the Save Conan Fund. Show to show everyone you really do care.
Mary - 25 Jun 2005 05:33 GMT > > Well Candace, you COULD drive to Orange County (about 400 miles for you, > if [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Trish You rock, Trish. :)
KellyH - 24 Jun 2005 19:34 GMT > No word from shelter manager Hector yet so I guess that means he has not > yet [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > a > home and I don't know what else to do. Mary, can I send you a Conan related email? I know you don't like getting emails from newsgroup people. Sorry I haven't been able to do much. Things are a bit crazy here and I had some situations come up at the shelter. Cats are coming out of the woodwork around here.
-Kelly
tracyrose@gmail.com - 24 Jun 2005 21:06 GMT Somebody might want to call the following organizations and see if they might be able to take the cat if and when Orange County can't take care of him anymore - Telling his story and letting them know that financial support is available might help.
Cats In Need Santa Ana 2140 E 17th Street Santa Ana, CA 92705 Phone: (714) 744-4911
PURRR P.O. Box 1327 Placentia, CA 92871 Phone: (714) 254-PUR2
Animal Assistance League of Orange County 15101 Jackson St. Midway City, CA 92655 Phone: (714)-893-4393
Orange County Animal Rescue Coalition P.O. Box 19393 Irvine, CA 92623 Phone: (949) 451-3272
New Beginnings For Animals P. O. Box 2444 Mission Viejo, CA 92690 Cat Contact: (949)-716-0538
Good luck .....
Candace - 25 Jun 2005 03:09 GMT > Somebody might want to call the following organizations and see if they > might be able to take the cat if and when Orange County can't take care > of him anymore - Telling his story and letting them know that financial > support is available might help. That's great. I could certainly try to reach a couple of these orgs tomorrow, would someone else or 2 like to split them up with me?
Candace
Rrb - 25 Jun 2005 03:29 GMT > Somebody might want to call the following organizations and see if they > might be able to take the cat if and when Orange County can't take care [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Good luck ..... Another option in the area is:
National Cat Protection Society 6904 W. Coast Highway Newport Beach, CA 92663 Phone: 949-650-1232 Fax: 949-650-7367 www.natcat.org
Mary - 24 Jun 2005 23:32 GMT > > No word from shelter manager Hector yet so I guess that means he has not > > yet [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Mary, can I send you a Conan related email? I know you don't like getting > emails from newsgroup people. I don't mind at all getting emails from people I like, KellyH, and you are one of them. I don't know who decided I did not like getting emails, but I bet it was someone I don't like!
> Sorry I haven't been able to do much. Things are a bit crazy here and I had > some situations come up at the shelter. Cats are coming out of the woodwork > around here. Honey, you are so pregnant. I cannot even imagine. Any ideas you may have re Conan will be very much appreciated.
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