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Conan Update 6/20 9 pm CST
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Mary - 21 Jun 2005 05:18 GMT Conan was not adopted today.
The good news is, we have someone to go and pick him up from the shelter if he is in danger.
He cannot offer Conan a foster home, but is willing to take him to the transport agency if we are going to transport him. He also thinks he can get him into a local no-kill shelter if need be, if only until we can find him a local home. If we can find a local home for him, he will take him there, within 100 miles of his home. Dan from rpca is an angel if ever there was one!
I am still hopeful that Conan will get adopted this week. Keep your fingers crossed!
Candace - 21 Jun 2005 06:45 GMT > He cannot offer Conan a foster home, but is willing to take him to the > transport agency if we are going to transport him. He also thinks he can >get > him into a local > no-kill shelter if need be, if only until we can find him a local home. If > we can find a local home for him, he will take him there, within 100 miles > of his home. Dan from rpca is an angel if ever there was one! That's good news. I read Dan's posts fairly regularly and he sounds like a wonderful cat-loving guy who goes out of his way to help kitties. Conan will be in good hands with Dan...but, of course, I, too, hope he gets adopted to a wonderful home this week.
Candace
IBen Getiner - 21 Jun 2005 10:07 GMT > > He cannot offer Conan a foster home, but is willing to take him to the > > transport agency if we are going to transport him. He also thinks he can >get [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Candace Well I for one am SICK TO TEARS of hearing about... *Conan*. If I never hear another SIGH about that cat, it will be too soon. Doesn't she have anything else in her lost little life to cry over? 'CONAN' this and 'CONAN' that. Sheeeeeet. She post more about that cat than I post about the racial problem in the country today. Do us all a favor, Mary, or whoever you are.... DRY UP about Conan. We don't want to hear anymore about it. Savvy...?
IBen
JQ - 21 Jun 2005 14:58 GMT IBen don't be so rude, Mary is a good soul and is doing what is in her heart. How would u feel if you grew attached to a life and knew he/she could possibly die for no good reason?? Sure there's other problems in the world but NO life is MORE or LESS important than the next! Many people online here have chosen Conan as the one TODAY to rescue. And good on them for it!! If YOU don't want to hear more about it then stop reading the posts about Conan!!
Mary and all so many others helping Conan, keep doing what you're doing - you're a gift to the world!!!!
Jacquie
Mary - 21 Jun 2005 15:09 GMT > Mary and all so many others helping Conan, keep doing what you're doing > - you're a gift to the world!!!! > > Jacquie thanks, Jacquie.
clfr@adelphia.net - 23 Jun 2005 01:06 GMT > IBen don't be so rude, Mary is a good soul and is doing what is in her > heart. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > If YOU don't want to hear more about it then stop reading the posts > about Conan!! IBen G's a troll (or a person with some very strange ideas/philosophies, take your pick) from way back... you can safely ignore him. In fact, better for your mental health if you do. ;-)
Cathy
> Mary and all so many others helping Conan, keep doing what you're doing > - you're a gift to the world!!!! > > Jacquie mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk - 21 Jun 2005 16:51 GMT What racial problem? Isn't this a cat group, why would you want to post about a "racial" problem?
Mary - 21 Jun 2005 18:14 GMT > What racial problem? Isn't this a cat group, why would you want to > post about a "racial" problem? Nobody knows to whom you are responding. However, if it is to that idiot calling himself "Iben" he is a white supremicist troll who is just here to upset you. I don't read his posts.
IBen Getiner - 22 Jun 2005 05:38 GMT > > What racial problem? Isn't this a cat group, why would you want to > > post about a "racial" problem? > > Nobody knows to whom you are responding. However, if it is to that idiot > calling himself "Iben" he is a white supremicist troll who is just here to > upset you. No, I'm not. I resent that. I have a kat also. Hiz name iz chester. I love him deeply, and I like talking about other katz and trying to steer confused people on a straighter path about katz. I was going to apologize to you, after reading all the nice sad things that Jacquie had to say in your defense. People will do that when it comes to cripples, you know. Pity and all being what it iz. But after what you said above, you'll reap nothing but scorn from me from here on out. I STILL say you're a NUT-CASE. You and your silly kat Conan. I must count 50 postings a week on this board about him. What's the deal? Didn't you ever have any kids?.
> I don't read his posts. Bet you'll read this one....
IBen
Loose Cannon - 22 Jun 2005 20:50 GMT Insane MPD pedophile, bigot, and irony-impaired coward "IBenGetiner" <Lappcatt@AOL.com> AKA "JYoung" <youngopinions@aol.com made a desperate plea for attention in message news:1119415106.507209.320260@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Nobody knows to whom you are responding. However, if it is to that idiot >> calling himself "Iben" he is a white supremicist troll who is just here >> to upset you.
> No, I'm not. I resent that. Bwahahahahaha!
Moron.
LC~ Racism and "upsetting people" is "IBen's" pathetic life. Such as it is.
"IBen (I don't question God...I just use 'em how ever I need to)Getiner" From: Lappcatt@aol.com (IBen Getiner), hypocrite of Biblical proportions. Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles Subject: Re: LSD Date: 6 Mar 2005 01:55:01 -0800 Message-ID: 396a5984.0503060155.59f5ed98@posting.google.com
mlbriggs - 21 Jun 2005 22:08 GMT >> > He cannot offer Conan a foster home, but is willing to take him to the >> > transport agency if we are going to transport him. He also thinks he [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > IBen And just what have you Ben doing to make this world a better place??
IBen Getiner - 22 Jun 2005 05:28 GMT > >> > He cannot offer Conan a foster home, but is willing to take him to the > >> > transport agency if we are going to transport him. He also thinks he [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > And just what have you Ben doing to make this world a better place?? Being honest for starters. With myself and with everyone else that I meet. That includes YOU. I shine the light of truth on lies, day and nite. That's what I do. That's ALL that I do, both here and in the real world. And you cockroaches go running every time.
IBen
Mary - 21 Jun 2005 15:11 GMT > > He cannot offer Conan a foster home, but is willing to take him to the > > transport agency if we are going to transport him. He also thinks he can [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > kitties. Conan will be in good hands with Dan...but, of course, I, > too, hope he gets adopted to a wonderful home this week. It has to happen! The great thing is that he is already neutered and vetted. I was surprised to learn that not all the cats there are.
Philip - 21 Jun 2005 20:25 GMT >>> He cannot offer Conan a foster home, but is willing to take him to >>> the transport agency if we are going to transport him. He also [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > and vetted. I was surprised to learn that not all the cats there > are. And as of today June21, Conan *is* in the cage group where the public can see him. He was not there yesterday. Starting June 13 through June 20, he was in a segregated treatment kennel. I talked to the treating vet. No blood panel was done after his return to the shelter. Conan was assessed and the standard regimen of intra venous Zithromycin (did I spell that correctly?) started. Today, he recognized me as soon as I walked up. He looks terrific ... now.
Mary - 21 Jun 2005 20:30 GMT > >>> He cannot offer Conan a foster home, but is willing to take him to > >>> the transport agency if we are going to transport him. He also [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > correctly?) started. Today, he recognized me as soon as I walked up. He > looks terrific ... now. So you are suggesting that Katherine Wilson, the kennel manager who called to tell me that he was out and meeting people last Saturday was lying?
Bullshit.
Philip - 21 Jun 2005 20:54 GMT >>>>> He cannot offer Conan a foster home, but is willing to take him to >>>>> the transport agency if we are going to transport him. He also [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > called to tell me that he was out and meeting people last Saturday was > lying? Not "lying". That is your interpretation. There is a "looseness" in status descriptions in the shelter's computer system because all entries can be edited and/or added to at any time. There are also several other very similar looking orange, neutered tabbies of the same age in the shelter's care for the past week and persently. I know what is there now and what was not there yesterday because I walked the kennels open to the public. Did you have any shelter personell do a physical check? I know they don't have the time to put you on HOLD and do that. This is a very very busy shelter.
At any rate, my wife came up with a new vet to care for new kitten. Compare the shelter vet who assessed Conan's condition and very recent history which resulted in a Zithromycin regimine that worked vs. my vet whose assessment resulted in a $275 blood panel estimate + treatment or ... trading Conan for another cat, considering the time limitation. We're going with a change in veterinary.
Mary - 21 Jun 2005 23:07 GMT > >>>>> He cannot offer Conan a foster home, but is willing to take him to > >>>>> the transport agency if we are going to transport him. He also [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > have any shelter personell do a physical check? I know they don't have the > time to put you on HOLD and do that. This is a very very busy shelter. Bullshit. I used the animal number he was assigned when you adopted him, and she said, "you mean the cat that Phil ____ adopted then returned for the brown kitten?"
Philip - 22 Jun 2005 00:49 GMT >>>>>>> He cannot offer Conan a foster home, but is willing to take him >>>>>>> to the transport agency if we are going to transport him. He [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > him, and she said, "you mean the cat that Phil ____ adopted then > returned for the brown kitten?" I have addressed the matter as it is ... which was a little at odds with the information that was entered into the computer system. Computers are "garbage in, garbage out" devices. They don't make independent observations.
Now, let's all pray for another good home now that he is healthy and hopefully stays that way. As you can see by the OCPETIFO.COM website, this place processes a respectable number of animals for the area it serves ... it is a busy place with limits to their resources.
Rhonda - 22 Jun 2005 05:52 GMT Yeah! Glad you're getting a new vet!
Rhonda
> At any rate, my wife came up with a new vet to care for new kitten. Compare > the shelter vet who assessed Conan's condition and very recent history which > resulted in a Zithromycin regimine that worked vs. my vet whose assessment > resulted in a $275 blood panel estimate + treatment or ... trading Conan for > another cat, considering the time limitation. We're going with a change in > veterinary. Kitkat - 21 Jun 2005 20:49 GMT > And as of today June21, Conan *is* in the cage group where the public can > see him. He was not there yesterday. Starting June 13 through June 20, he [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > correctly?) started. Today, he recognized me as soon as I walked up. He > looks terrific ... now. Oh man, He probably thought you were coming back to save him. Just a sincere post from me...I feel bad for the little guy. No barbs intended.
Pam -less radioactive than yesterday
Philip - 21 Jun 2005 21:04 GMT >> And as of today June21, Conan *is* in the cage group where the >> public can see him. He was not there yesterday. Starting June 13 [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Pam > -less radioactive than yesterday Hello Pam. Nice to hear from you. You are getting your thyroid glands "suppressed?" Talk about an art.
I was warned that readopting Conan could put both he and the kitten at risk for another round of URI. Can't say any more here about kitten medicals because this group will go ape sh.t over a hangnail and start blaspheming me again. ;^)
Kitkat - 22 Jun 2005 00:46 GMT >>>And as of today June21, Conan *is* in the cage group where the >>>public can see him. He was not there yesterday. Starting June 13 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Hello Pam. Nice to hear from you. You are getting your thyroid glands > "suppressed?" Talk about an art. Well supression is the end result, but I no longer have any thryoid gland. I had it removed in May due to cancer. What I had done yesterday was cancer treatment to kill remaining thyroid tissue.
> I was warned that readopting Conan could put both he and the kitten at risk > for another round of URI. Can't say any more here about kitten medicals > because this group will go ape sh.t over a hangnail and start blaspheming me > again. ;^) I'm hoping baby tabby is okay and glad to hear that you dumped your vet.
Pam
Philip - 22 Jun 2005 01:16 GMT snip
>> Hello Pam. Nice to hear from you. You are getting your thyroid >> glands "suppressed?" Talk about an art. > > Well supression is the end result, but I no longer have any thryoid > gland. I had it removed in May due to cancer. What I had done > yesterday was cancer treatment to kill remaining thyroid tissue. Yikes.
>> I was warned that readopting Conan could put both he and the kitten >> at risk for another round of URI. Can't say any more here about [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > vet. > Pam I've swapped physicians for as much so this wasn't too difficult. But pets don't have that power.
Kitkat - 22 Jun 2005 04:47 GMT > snip > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Yikes. Yeah. You can imagine how life in my world has been for the last few months. But, the road ahead should be much better and easier now. I finally got to take synthroid today. My first time with that little blue pill. I've never been happier to take a drug in my entire life.
The worst part of this all right now is that I am isolated from my cats.
Good thing I have pix.
:) pam
Meghan Noecker - 24 Jun 2005 02:52 GMT >The worst part of this all right now is that I am isolated from my cats. > >Good thing I have pix. Do you have any stuffed animals? They aren't as good as the real ones, but they are something you can hold. I actually found a teddy bear that was shiny grey and soft like Maynard about 6 months ago. I wish it were shaped like a cat as I am not really into bears. But it was so much like Maynard I went ahead and got it.
I've also been known to pack a small stuffed kitty when I go out of town. It's hard enough sleeping in hotels. But no cats or dogs? It just doesn't feel right.
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Kitkat - 24 Jun 2005 05:29 GMT >>The worst part of this all right now is that I am isolated from my cats. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > town. It's hard enough sleeping in hotels. But no cats or dogs? It > just doesn't feel right. I had to go see them again today. I am basically considered out of the "dangerous" phase of radioactivity now, too. I still kept my distance, but I could not bear being away from them. My kitties are therapeutic for me and this isolation stuff has me at the END of my goddamn rope. Im a bit sad about going out of town for the weekend and not seeing them until sunday, but DH and I definitely need this and I have a cat sitter staying at the house for the weekend.
I should have thought to bring a stuffed animal with me. Duh.
:) Pam
clfr@adelphia.net - 23 Jun 2005 01:09 GMT > >>Pam > >>-less radioactive than yesterday [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > gland. I had it removed in May due to cancer. What I had done yesterday > was cancer treatment to kill remaining thyroid tissue. I hope the treatment's been 100% successful.
Cathy
Kitkat - 23 Jun 2005 06:18 GMT >>>>Pam >>>>-less radioactive than yesterday [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Cathy Thanks, Cathy. I have to be patient and let the radioactive stuff work...which can take from six months to a year. But at least now that the treatment is over, I can put it aside for a bit. A break from the cancer stuff, if you will. I'm going to try and enjoy the remainder of my summer break. Maybe spend a little time with my furry guys. :)
Enjoy your break, too! Pam
Rhonda - 22 Jun 2005 05:55 GMT Very hard to read that sentence -- makes me sad for him. He must be so confused.
I hope that handsome guy finds a home very soon.
Rhonda
> Today, he recognized me as soon as I walked up. KellyH - 21 Jun 2005 10:13 GMT > Conan was not adopted today. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I am still hopeful that Conan will get adopted this week. > Keep your fingers crossed! Mary, that's great! Well, not great that Conan didn't get adopted, but that Dan could pick him up :) Thank you for all your work on this!
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Mary - 21 Jun 2005 15:10 GMT > > Conan was not adopted today. > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Dan could pick him up :) > Thank you for all your work on this! KellyH, thanks for the moral support. Enough people have expressed concern that I feel sure he will find a home.
sriddles@aol.com - 23 Jun 2005 06:31 GMT > > > Conan was not adopted today. > > > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > KellyH, thanks for the moral support. Enough people have > expressed concern that I feel sure he will find a home. I think he will, too. He is a really, really handsome cat, he will surely catch someone's eye. Let's all just hope it is a forever home. I just feel so bad about the ones that get brought back. Abandoned all over again. I'm not humanizing them, but I *do* think, whatever the feline equivalent of confusion is, they surely experience it.
Sherry
Mary - 23 Jun 2005 17:20 GMT > > > Mary, that's great! Well, not great that Conan didn't get adopted, but > > that [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I think he will, too. He is a really, really handsome cat, he will > surely catch someone's eye. No word from Hector yet. I don't want to call every day and piss them off.
>Let's all just hope it is a forever home. That's the goal. I have an acquaintance in the Brentwood area who might be able to take him, but she is out of the country now. I also have a client in Beverly Hills (how glamorous is that! Well, there are a few run-of-the mill folks that live there too ...) who I am working the courage up to ask--just if she likes cats, as an opener.
I
> just feel so bad about the ones that get brought back. Abandoned all > over again. I'm not humanizing them, but I *do* think, whatever the > feline equivalent of confusion is, they surely experience it. That a.shole could go back and look that lovely, sad boy in the eye and walk away again is all I ever need to know about him to know exactly what he is.
Philip - 23 Jun 2005 19:28 GMT > <sriddles@aol.com> wrote > I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > boy in the eye and walk away again is all I ever need to > know about him to know exactly what he is. I got a call this morning from our vet. I expressed my and my wife's concern over her (the vet's) judgment about Conan that was clearly skewed in favor of running up a large vet bill. The conversation detailed my 2 visits this week to verify Conan's condition and medical treatment since relinquishing him. She cut the conversation short which mostly confirmed that our change in veterinary was the right decision.
Please Mary ... be as kind with the perceived faults in others as you are with the faults in yourself.
Meghan Noecker - 24 Jun 2005 02:43 GMT >I think he will, too. He is a really, really handsome cat, he will >surely catch someone's eye. Let's all just hope it is a forever home. I >just feel so bad about the ones that get brought back. Abandoned all >over again. I'm not humanizing them, but I *do* think, whatever the >feline equivalent of confusion is, they surely experience it. Definitely.
I have experienced something similar with my rescued dog. The day after I got her, I took her to the pet store to get a new collar and some dishes and things for her. She was much smaller than our other dogs, so we didn't have anything her size.
She was miserable in the car, which I expected. She had never been on a leash or in a car til the day before. And she was obviously afraid. So she just sat there, stiff and shakey.
The response was when we got home. I carried her in and set her down in the living room. She stood there and slowly looked around. Then she looked at me and wagged her tail for the first time.
She didn't have much experience with car trips, so she had no expectation of returning to the same place. We can't ever know what she was thinking or how much she understood. But she was surprised to be in the same place and seemed happy about it.
I think it took her a couple months to totally believe it was her forever home. But she never had that reaction again from the car trip. From then on, she recognized pulling into the driveway as getting HOME. And that has always been more exciting to her than going for a ride. She does like going for rides. But I think for her, it is more about being included. She doesn't look out the windows or care where we go. She just likes to go and come back.
My sister had a similar reaction with her recent cat adoption. He had some matting on his inner legs, so she took him to the groomer for a shave. He was extremely affectunate when she got him home. much more than normal.
I think that first trip is the most stressful as they wonder what is happening with them. And it is a relief when they finally get to the same place twice. Do they really understand? I don't know. But they aren't stupid either. And it is extremely stressful to keep moving from place to place. The fewer stages, the better.
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