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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / June 2005Conan Cliff Notes
Could someone please summarize in a few sentences the Conan story? (except for Philip, he seems to be the culprit). I just can't follow exactly what's going on in all these posts... I guess this is like back in High School when a friend bothered you for notes to a class he or she cut! luv, LemonPops > Could someone please summarize in a few sentences the Conan story? > (except for Philip, he seems to be the culprit). I just can't follow [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > luv, > LemonPops May I suggest you do you own homework instead of passing a judgment (which you have already made) based on the insanely biased input you will get in the near future from the foul mouthed crusaders. Start with the thread titled "Rescued from Shelter". > > Could someone please summarize in a few sentences the Conan story? > > (except for Philip, he seems to be the culprit). I just can't follow [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the near future from the foul mouthed crusaders. Start with the thread > titled "Rescued from Shelter". Gee, Philip, poor you. Guess there's just something about you that pisses God off, so He's unjustly corralled the entire rest of the world against you, you innocent little lamb. >> > Could someone please summarize in a few sentences the Conan story? >> > (except for Philip, he seems to be the culprit). I just can't follow [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >pisses God off, so He's unjustly corralled the entire rest of the world >against you, you innocent little lamb. LOL! >>> Could someone please summarize in a few sentences the Conan story? >>> (except for Philip, he seems to be the culprit). I just can't [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > pisses God off, so He's unjustly corralled the entire rest of the > world against you, you innocent little lamb. God put another cat in my care ... deal with that. The Devil marshalled his minions against me. How that for perspective? This is hardly "the entire rest of the world" you fool. Hhahahha. INto the the kill file you go. Phillip wrote: >May I suggest you do you own homework instead of passing a judgment (which you have already made) based on the insanely biased input you will get in the near future from the foul mouthed crusaders. Start with the thread >titled "Rescued from Shelter". Oh, you mean where you wrote this? "Ok ... I found a cat. Not the Bengal kitten or like tempered orange tabby kitten I was after but ... that's what happens when you go shopping the Bargain Bin." It's quite obvious that poor Conan never measured up in your eyes. Lauren Wow! Thanks for all the help, guys!!! LemonPops - 17 Jun 2005 10:25 Could someone please summarize in a few sentences the Conan story? (except for Philip, he seems to be the culprit). I just can't follow exactly what's going on in all these posts... I guess this is like back in High School when a friend bothered you for notes to a class he or she cut! luv, LemonPops Reply to this message Philip - 17 Jun 2005 11:50 > Could someone please summarize in a few sentences the Conan story? > (except for Philip, he seems to be the culprit). I just can't follow [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > luv, > LemonPops May I suggest you do you own homework instead of passing a judgment (which you have already made) based on the insanely biased input you will get in the near future from the foul mouthed crusaders. Start with the thread titled "Rescued from Shelter". Reply to this message Noon Cat Nick - 17 Jun 2005 13:45 > > Could someone please summarize in a few sentences the Conan story? > > (except for Philip, he seems to be the culprit). I just can't follow [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the near future from the foul mouthed crusaders. Start with the thread > titled "Rescued from Shelter". Gee, Philip, poor you. Guess there's just something about you that pisses God off, so He's unjustly corralled the entire rest of the world against you, you innocent little lamb. Reply to this message equalizer - 17 Jun 2005 14:55 >> > Could someone please summarize in a few sentences the Conan story? >> > (except for Philip, he seems to be the culprit). I just can't follow [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >pisses God off, so He's unjustly corralled the entire rest of the world >against you, you innocent little lamb. LOL! Reply to this message Philip - 17 Jun 2005 16:15 >>> Could someone please summarize in a few sentences the Conan story? >>> (except for Philip, he seems to be the culprit). I just can't [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > pisses God off, so He's unjustly corralled the entire rest of the > world against you, you innocent little lamb. God put another cat in my care ... deal with that. The Devil marshalled his minions against me. How that for perspective? This is hardly "the entire rest of the world" you fool. Hhahahha. INto the the kill file you go. Reply to this message PawsForThought - 17 Jun 2005 15:03 Phillip wrote: >May I suggest you do you own homework instead of passing a judgment (which you have already made) based on the insanely biased input you will get in the near future from the foul mouthed crusaders. Start with the thread >titled "Rescued from Shelter". Oh, you mean where you wrote this? "Ok ... I found a cat. Not the Bengal kitten or like tempered orange tabby kitten I was after but ... that's what happens when you go shopping the Bargain Bin." It's quite obvious that poor Conan never measured up in your eyes. Lauren >Lauren snip > "Ok ... I found a cat. Not the Bengal kitten or like tempered orange > tabby kitten I was after but ... that's what happens when you go [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Lauren The Bargain Bin is just what an animal shelter is. As you all know, the county shelter is a dumping ground. There is still a diamond in the rough named Conan if you people can get your collective a.ses together and put him in another home and keep him well like you have promised to do. Trying isn't good enough. And you ought to be able to post the list of contributors to the Conan Fund. But you won't, simply because only one of you can put your money where your mouth is. > snip > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > to the Conan Fund. But you won't, simply because only one of you can put > your money where your mouth is. There is no fund yet because there is no reason to SEND FUNDS yet. If fate makes it so that Conan gets adopted this weekend, that will likely be the end of the Conan saga for us. If not, we will clearly be staying informed to the best of our ability as to his health and status, while people continue trying to find a home for him where HE lives...L.A. *If* that cant happen, we seem to already have TWO places to have him transported to across the country. I think we have our collective a.ses together quite well and are ready to act at any moment if need be. Hope all is well with the kitten! (especially healthwise!!!) (!) Pam -now with a little extra added sarcasm for you... > > snip > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Pam > -now with a little extra added sarcasm for you... Did you see that KellyH has someone who will go get him if we need him to? So we also have your friend and her friend right there in LA in case of an emergency. (I know you have not asked your friend, but still ..) >> The Bargain Bin is just what an animal shelter is. As you all know, the >> county shelter is a dumping ground. There is still a diamond in the rough >> named Conan if you people can get your collective a.ses together OK, you know what? Go to hell. >that cant happen, we seem to already have TWO places to have him >transported to across the country. I think we have our collective a.ses >together quite well and are ready to act at any moment if need be. Hope >all is well with the kitten! (especially healthwise!!!) (!) Pam, you're terrific. And you're a gem for not pointing out to Philip that this all happened because he was so eager to get rid of Conan, who he thinks is just a defective product. Stacia > >> The Bargain Bin is just what an animal shelter is. As you all know, the > >> county shelter is a dumping ground. There is still a diamond in the rough [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > that this all happened because he was so eager to get rid of Conan, who > he thinks is just a defective product. He just had a bad cold. He is a beautiful, friendly, feisty boy! >> snip >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Pam Here they come .... excuses. Can't tell you anything about the kitten until ... well, you'll just have to wait. >>>snip >>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Can't tell you anything about the kitten until ... well, you'll just have to > wait. Trust me, we aren't waiting to hear about the kitten. Just for HIS sake, we all hope he is WELL. (read: HEALTHY) excuse this! Pam > The Bargain Bin is just what an animal shelter is. As you all know, the > county shelter is a dumping ground. There is still a diamond in the rough [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to the Conan Fund. But you won't, simply because only one of you can put > your money where your mouth is. Gee, don't go all soft on us. A diamond in the rough, I doubt he's in the rough. It's a little hard to get our collective a.ses together right away when some of us are thousands of miles away. You created the issue so I don't see why your barbs should be important to us. And what's the big deal with the posting of contributors? Why is that so important? I don't understand. And what's with only one of us can put our money where our mouth is? I think plenty of people would be willing to give and will give, if needed. I think the outpouring would be significant. I certainly would and I wouldn't care if my name was posted but I wouldn't be too thrilled having my full name posted on the internet. What are you getting at, anyway? Candace >> The Bargain Bin is just what an animal shelter is. As you all know, >> the county shelter is a dumping ground. There is still a diamond in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Gee, don't go all soft on us. A diamond in the rough, I doubt he's in > the rough. But you don't know. You haven't walked the aisles of OC shelter. > It's a little hard to get our collective a.ses together > right away when some of us are thousands of miles away. You created > the issue so I don't see why your barbs should be important to us. I created no issue. You took it upon yourselves to MAKE it an issue. > And what's the big deal with the posting of contributors? Why is that > so important? I don't understand. Because there is MONEY and trust involved. An example has already been recalled about a trusted person absconding with funds for just such a rescue. > And what's with only one of us can > put our money where our mouth is? I think plenty of people would be [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Candace Recognition for humanitarianism goes a long way toward getting more donations. Its like putting a few dollars seed money in the hat for others to see that motivates more people to give. Also helps keep the accountant honest. > Because there is MONEY and trust involved. An example has already been > recalled about a trusted person absconding with funds for just such a > rescue. Yes, and several other examples with happy endings were mentioned. I participated in one of those where we contributed money for a cat named Jack to be transported. At that time, we all just called the transport company with our credit cards which they had agreed to. But I know on rpca, they do stuff like this regularly and no one gets cheated. Ideally, I suppose it might be best if we could donate directly to the shelter but they wouldn't necessarily apply the $$ to Conan and, sorry, but how can you trust a municipal shelter to distribute the funds where you want them? Of course, all the kitties deserve to be helped but most of us contribute locally. Conan is a specific kitty we want to help. > Recognition for humanitarianism goes a long way toward getting more > donations. Its like putting a few dollars seed money in the hat for others > to see that motivates more people to give. Also helps keep the accountant > honest. Well, I don't see why it would be an issue to say who contributed if the person in charge wanted to do that...as long as last names were not mentioned. Candace >> Because there is MONEY and trust involved. An example has already been >> recalled about a trusted person absconding with funds for just such a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > most of us contribute locally. Conan is a specific kitty we want to > help. Orange County declared bankruptcy ten years ago. Nobody trusts the County to manage money responsibily anymore. You best fund a person you trust to carry out your wishes AND who will foster Conan responsibly. One thing you don't know is if he will get sick again shortly after adoption. At least this time around, he will not have gotten vaccinated with the same compounds that likely led to his illness ... which was much more severe than simple "kennel cough." I detailed one morning's discharge in an earlier post. >> Recognition for humanitarianism goes a long way toward getting more >> donations. Its like putting a few dollars seed money in the hat for [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Candace Exactly. Then again, I could just copy/paste the funds transfer from Paypal to the Chosen One and post it here just for grins. :^) >Well, I don't see why it would be an issue to say who contributed if >the person in charge wanted to do that...as long as last names were not >mentioned. If it comes to actually collecting the money, we can list the user names. That's how we know everybody here anyway. There's no need to use full names for people who don't want their full name listed. The only person who seems to care about recognition is Phillip anyway, and he just wants to know how many people are more caring than he is.  Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >> Well, I don't see why it would be an issue to say who contributed if >> the person in charge wanted to do that...as long as last names were [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > only person who seems to care about recognition is Phillip anyway, and > he just wants to know how many people are more caring than he is. Look wench, "it's about the cat" .... remember? I like better the idea of donors posting a copy/paste of their contribution via PayPal You have just illustrated how trusting the fund manager may be questionable. > >> Well, I don't see why it would be an issue to say who contributed if > >> the person in charge wanted to do that...as long as last names were [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > donors posting a copy/paste of their contribution via PayPal You have just > illustrated how trusting the fund manager may be questionable. What you like or dislike really doesn't matter. You gave up the right to have anything to do with Conan when you "exchanged" him for a new kitten like a poorly-fitting pair of shoes. Where do you come off trying to dictate to others how to clean up the mess you made?! a.shole! > > >> Well, I don't see why it would be an issue to say who contributed if > > >> the person in charge wanted to do that...as long as last names were [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > a.shole! Ack, now he's got me responding when I vowed to ignore his ravings. I have to give him credit where credit is due - he's an effective troll! >>> Well, I don't see why it would be an issue to say who contributed if >>> the person in charge wanted to do that...as long as last names were [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >donors posting a copy/paste of their contribution via PayPal You have just >illustrated how trusting the fund manager may be questionable. It worked fine when we moved a cat named Jack from a terminally ill woman's home to an adopter's home across the country. None of our names were posted, and it happened. Once again, you have no input at all in this matter, and it just tickles me to see that everyone else sees that too. eq >Look wench, "it's about the cat" .... remember? I like better the idea of >donors posting a copy/paste of their contribution via PayPal You have just >illustrated how trusting the fund manager may be questionable. Look a.shole, I do not normally call people names, but you have already been told that we do not like the term you are using. You are well aware of that it is not a current term, and that it does not mean the same thing that it used to. I see no problem posting contributions if we get to that stage. You are jumping the gun. And honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. Why do *you* need to know who contributes? Most people donate to something because they care, not because they want the world to know about it. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >>Look wench, "it's about the cat" .... remember? I like better the idea of >>donors posting a copy/paste of their contribution via PayPal You have >>just >>illustrated how trusting the fund manager may be questionable. > > Look a.shole, I do not normally call people names, snip Yes you do. > I see no problem posting contributions if we get to that stage. Good. :^) > Why do *you* need to know who contributes? snip > -- > Meghan & the Zoo Crew I have addressed your final question several times already. >> Look a.shole, I do not normally call people names, >snip > >Yes you do. Really? Prove it. Perhaps you have me confused with somebody else. I think you will be heard pressed to find me attacking people personally. I will debate and argue, but I rarely call names, and I don't know if I have ever called anybody a swear word before. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >>> Look a.shole, I do not normally call people names, >>snip [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Equine and Pet Photography > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com With Mary as the measure of "usually" then, you do not "usually" address people crudely. >>>> Look a.shole, I do not normally call people names, >>>snip [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >With Mary as the measure of "usually" then, you do not "usually" address >people crudely. Try again. Prove your claim. Honestly. I don't believe I have ever called anybody a swear name. And other than an occasional ignorant, I don't think I have called anybody any names. I just don't like to. I think it takes away from the points I want to make. So, I prefer to leave name calling out of it. So, prove your statement. At the very least, state some examples of what you think I have said that would be considered name calling. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com > >> Look a.shole, I do not normally call people names, > >snip [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > personally. I will debate and argue, but I rarely call names, and I > don't know if I have ever called anybody a swear word before. I think a.shole is the first. And if I may say so, I wholeheartedly approve of your using it in this case. :) >I think a.shole is the first. And if I may say so, I wholeheartedly >approve of your using it in this case. :) Thanks. I've been called a lot of things over the years, but the term "wench" is disgusting. Especially from him. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com > >I think a.shole is the first. And if I may say so, I wholeheartedly > >approve of your using it in this case. :) > > Thanks. I've been called a lot of things over the years, but the term > "wench" is disgusting. Especially from him. Consider the source and don't let it bother you. He's probably henpecked and needs to vent his frustration here. Phil. >> >I think a.shole is the first. And if I may say so, I wholeheartedly >> >approve of your using it in this case. :) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Phil. > >I think a.shole is the first. And if I may say so, I wholeheartedly > >approve of your using it in this case. :) > > Thanks. I've been called a lot of things over the years, but the term > "wench" is disgusting. Especially from him. You are so sensitive. But absolutely right, of course. Women clearly have been much less than human for this old freak all his life. I like seeing him poked with a stick! Poke away! > I see no problem posting contributions if we get to that stage. You > are jumping the gun. And honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. > Why do *you* need to know who contributes? Most people donate to > something because they care, not because they want the world to know > about it. Why do people keep answering him on this point? The more they do, the more likely he is to cause the very trouble he wants to cause. He's baiting. SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.diaryland.com/ >> I see no problem posting contributions if we get to that stage. You >> are jumping the gun. And honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >more likely he is to cause the very trouble he wants to cause. He's >baiting. The one good point about answering him continuously on this point is that over time, it will get more and more people to see the obviousness of why he doesn't have any input to this matter -- people who aren't reading now but will be -- and this will lead to his credibility being damaged further and his voice becoming smaller and smaller until the very sight of his screen name brings a slight chuckle. eq > >Why do people keep answering him on this point? The more they do, the > >more likely he is to cause the very trouble he wants to cause. He's [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > damaged further and his voice becoming smaller and smaller until the > very sight of his screen name brings a slight chuckle. His credibility was pretty much nil weeks ago . . . The sight of his nom de plume brings me a slight yawn. How about you? :) SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.diaryland.com/ >> >Why do people keep answering him on this point? The more they do, the >> >more likely he is to cause the very trouble he wants to cause. He's [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >The sight of his nom de plume brings me a slight yawn. How about you? :) If you haven't noticed, I have a morbid fascination with people self-immolating. > If you haven't noticed, I have a morbid fascination with people > self-immolating. Not me. Life's short and getting shorter every day. Especially such a glorious day as yesterday and today. When yesterday looks like this: <http://www.slywy.com/views/springtime.jpg>, baiters just aren't a priority. As long as the cat's okay, who cares what the "owner" thinks of what people plan? Now, time to get some fresh air. :) SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.diaryland.com/ > >> >Why do people keep answering him on this point? The more they do, the > >> >more likely he is to cause the very trouble he wants to cause. He's [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > If you haven't noticed, I have a morbid fascination with people > self-immolating. :) I have noticed. > > I see no problem posting contributions if we get to that stage. You > > are jumping the gun. And honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > more likely he is to cause the very trouble he wants to cause. He's > baiting. Oh piss off Schirf. Not everyone sticks their head in the sand like you do. a.shole. >> I see no problem posting contributions if we get to that stage. You >> are jumping the gun. And honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >more likely he is to cause the very trouble he wants to cause. He's >baiting. I guess it is just hard for me to accept that people troll like this. It just seems like he is having a hard time understanding, and if we could just explain it right, he'd understand. I know, that is asking too much in this case. I just hate to give up on people. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com > I guess it is just hard for me to accept that people troll like this. > It just seems like he is having a hard time understanding, and if we > could just explain it right, he'd understand. I know, that is asking > too much in this case. I just hate to give up on people. He's not trolling. He is sincere. Talk to whomever you wish. Contrary to what the pussified say, dialogue hurts no one and generally helps. Diane is a big fan of the killfile because she does not have the self control to simply not read the authors she wishes to avoid. You will stop interacting with Philip when you are finished with him, if ever. > >> The Bargain Bin is just what an animal shelter is. As you all know, > >> the county shelter is a dumping ground. There is still a diamond in [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > I created no issue. You took it upon yourselves to MAKE it an issue. You created the issue, you piece of sh.t, when you broadcasted you were returning Conan to a high-kill shelter- which it apparently isn't. You knew full well many people would be very upset about a turd like you sending a cat to his death. You know most of the people in this group care about cats much more than you're capable of, and I'm absolutely certain you derive pleasure from inflamming the emotions of those people- which includes me. IOW, you're a half-dead, decredpt, old, amoral, sadistic piece of sh.t who needs to inflame the emotions of others to feel alive. > > >> The Bargain Bin is just what an animal shelter is. As you all know, > > >> the county shelter is a dumping ground. There is still a diamond in [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > half-dead, decredpt, old, amoral, sadistic piece of sh.t who needs to > inflame the emotions of others to feel alive. I think this is a fairly accurate assessment. It is along the lines of Brian Link describing for months the adorable Henry then giving him up. >"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote > The Bargain Bin is just what an animal shelter is. As you all know, the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > contributors to the Conan Fund. But you won't, simply because only one of > you can put your money where your mouth is. The decision was made to see how this weekend goes, since the shelter said there is a good chance he may get adopted. Funds will be taken up when neccessary. What difference does it make if someone posts the list of contributors or not? I will contribute something, when there is something to contribute to. If you really wanted to be helpful, YOU could go to the shelter and get him out and foster him until we can find a home. So far, you are the only one who lives in the area. I'm in MA, Mary's in NC, Candace in AZ, Phil, midwest?, etc. Believe me, if I was anywhere near Orange County, I would be at the shelter in a heartbeat. Signature-Kelly >> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote >> The Bargain Bin is just what an animal shelter is. As you all know, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > in AZ, Phil, midwest?, etc. Believe me, if I was anywhere near > Orange County, I would be at the shelter in a heartbeat. Ok, send me the bail money. Let's test your convictions. > Ok, send me the bail money. Let's test your convictions. I don't trust you. I would send it to the shelter though. Signature-Kelly >> Ok, send me the bail money. Let's test your convictions. > > I don't trust you. I would send it to the shelter though. Ya mean you'd trust me with Conan but not the money. Ok, I register your values. Why then should I trust you to place Conan in a new home? You might just find another cause to persue, never to be heard from again. You and I both know it's harder to place 3-4 year old cats than it is to place cute little kittens. > Ya mean you'd trust me with Conan but not the money. Ok, I register your > values. Why then should I trust you to place Conan in a new home? You > might just find another cause to persue, never to be heard from again. > You and I both know it's harder to place 3-4 year old cats than it is to > place cute little kittens. No, I don't trust you with Conan either. If you don't trust me either, then no it wouldn't work. My point was, you are putting it on us to do something and stomping your feet that we can't get off our collective a.ses, when if you really did want to do something, you could. You created the mess. Signature-Kelly >> Ya mean you'd trust me with Conan but not the money. Ok, I register your >> values. Why then should I trust you to place Conan in a new home? You [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > a.ses, when if you really did want to do something, you could. You > created the mess. Sweetheart, your collective intervention made a federal case out of this. To date, nothing you have done collectively has altered the course of events that would have occurred with Conan had none of you gone on crusade. That's a fact, not a put-down. > Sweetheart, your collective intervention made a federal case out of this. > To date, nothing you have done collectively has altered the course of events > that would have occurred with Conan had none of you gone on crusade. That's > a fact, not a put-down. You got a nerve man. Sure it's made all the difference. Every been in jail? Ever been sitting there wishing you had someone to bail you out? Hey, having the money lined up makes all the difference. These beautiful spirited women have even offered to sweeten the pot with premium cat food. You got a nerve saying anything! Your jumping up and down on thin ice. Not to mention, there is less worry about the cat. Who ever gets Conan is going to be one lucky person. You beat these girls up now, just wait, every-dog has it's day. Fate is not without a sense of humor! There will be pictures and plenty of reports of Conan. (Hopefully). >> Sweetheart, your collective intervention made a federal case out of this. >> To date, nothing you have done collectively has altered the course of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Sure it's made all the difference. Barry .... notice the words "To date..." Now in the "feel good" department, the "difference" is immeasurable. > Every been in jail? Ever been sitting there wishing you had someone to > bail you out? Nope. You? What were ya in for? > Hey, having the money lined up makes all the difference. It makes no difference. Spending the money and taking Conan to a good home makes the difference. That will happen sooner or later. Conan is now a known quality, not just a stray like last time. > These beautiful spirited women have even offered to sweeten the pot > with premium cat food. Shouldn't feed cats sugar. > You got a nerve saying anything! Chutzpa! Got loads of that! > Your jumping up and down on thin ice. I don't weight as much as you. > Not to mention, there is less worry about the cat. I don't have that worry, 'tis true! > Who ever gets Conan is going to be one lucky person. Very true. But if he craps on Mary's pillow, don't blame it on Conan. LOL I'll take the credit. > You beat these girls up now, just wait, every-dog has it's day. > Fate is not without a sense of humor! There will be pictures and plenty > of reports of Conan. (Hopefully). I would like that kind of confirmation that he is happy. So ... do you think I should find a new vet? >>You got a nerve saying anything! > > Chutzpa! Got loads of that! Chutzpah is not what you are loaded with. That much is certain. Pam >>>You got a nerve saying anything! >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Pam Too bad it's not embalming fluid...... >>>>You got a nerve saying anything! >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Too bad it's not embalming fluid...... Zing! > >>>You got a nerve saying anything! > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Too bad it's not embalming fluid...... I wish it was- but now we have to worry about will happen to his kitten when he drops dead- which apparently will be very soon. >>> You got a nerve saying anything! >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Pam Dear sweetest Pam. What call was there for your little barb? What load are you burndened with? Tell me. I'm really a harmless little fuzzball. >>>>You got a nerve saying anything! >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Dear sweetest Pam. What call was there for your little barb? What load are > you burndened with? Tell me. I'm really a harmless little fuzzball. I know chutzpah! We're dealing with a different entity in you! >>>>> You got a nerve saying anything! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> fuzzball. > I know chutzpah! We're dealing with a different entity in you! We? The voices in your head are conversing? ;^) "Philip" > So ... do you think I should find a new vet? Not necessarily, I think you took him back during the upswing of his recovery. -------- Look how many topics are going on about Conan. You should have named the cat cocaine, and then maybe it really would get nationwide coverage from the feds and media. I think it had more to do with the time frame. You were giving such excellent care. I have learned something in this: I never doubted it, but now I see it in action. These ladies LOVE them cats Philip, I love mine too...I can't think of anymore good to do for him! But they L O V E these cats! You put up pictures, you posted frequent updates...aaaah yeah...You gave details man. > "Philip" > >> So ... do you think I should find a new vet? > > Not necessarily, I think you took him back during the upswing of his > recovery. Really? You think that? What do you suppose the shelter vet did / gave to Conan to bring him around? Steroids? Pennicillin (do they give that to cats?)? You don't know much to make that statement, Barry. > -------- > > Look how many topics are going on about Conan. You should have named > the cat cocaine, and then maybe it really would get nationwide coverage > from the feds and media. When was the last time so much commotion occurred here? Maybe this was the release of a lot of pent up energy? > I think it had more to do with the time frame. You were giving such > excellent care. My wife was starting to get a little jealous over the amount of attention she was not getting due to Conan. She'll never ever admit it openly but ... I could tell. > I have learned something in this: I never doubted it, but now I see > it in action. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You put up pictures, you posted frequent updates...aaaah yeah...You > gave details man. The Minion's dedication has never been in question. The sanity of several members has been questionable. There is NO TIME that an animal's well being supercedes a child's needs and safety. I found broken moral compasses on more than one occasion. "The Conan Chronicles: A study of unbridled compassion, deciet, envy, hatred, and forgiveness" > Sweetheart, your collective intervention made a federal case out of this. > To date, nothing you have done collectively has altered the course of events > that would have occurred with Conan had none of you gone on crusade. That's because you led us to believe that Conan was in imminent danger of being killed, you half-dead piece of sh.t. >>> Ok, send me the bail money. Let's test your convictions. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >and I both know it's harder to place 3-4 year old cats than it is to place >cute little kittens. He's got a point -- he doesn't belong in this loop at all. Forget that option and put his input in this matter where it belongs -- in the Bargain Bin. > >> Ok, send me the bail money. Let's test your convictions. > > > > I don't trust you. I would send it to the shelter though. > > Ya mean you'd trust me with Conan but not the money. I don't trust you with either. >Ya mean you'd trust me with Conan but not the money. Ok, I register your >values. Why then should I trust you to place Conan in a new home? You >might just find another cause to persue, never to be heard from again. You >and I both know it's harder to place 3-4 year old cats than it is to place >cute little kittens. In all honesty, I don't trust you with the money OR the cat. I doubt that she trust you either. The actual point was that you are chastising us for not getting him already, yet you are the only person in the same city, let alone state. I don't think there is any problem with somebody running away with the money. Everything here has been pretty well documented and easy enough to verify. As for 3-4 year old cats being hard to adopt out. Jay Jay was listed at 3-4 years old, was only in foster care for 2 weeks (part of that time being neutered and recovering) and was at his first adoption event. I had the papers signed before I even knew his estimated age. That was the least of my concerns. My major concern was that nobody else adopt him first :) Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >> Ya mean you'd trust me with Conan but not the money. Ok, I register >> your values. Why then should I trust you to place Conan in a new [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > chastising us for not getting him already, yet you are the only person > in the same city, let alone state. I offered, and was told you all will do the rescue by yourselves. Maybe you women are not so organized or reliable. > I don't think there is any problem with somebody running away with the > money. Everything here has been pretty well documented and easy enough [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > That was the least of my concerns. My major concern was that nobody > else adopt him first :) That's a nice, sweet, anecdotal story. In real life, cute kittens vs. used cats. Kittens are much easier to market. >> I doubt that she trust you either. The actual point was that you are >> chastising us for not getting him already, yet you are the only person >> in the same city, let alone state. > >I offered, and was told you all will do the rescue by yourselves. Maybe you >women are not so organized or reliable. You don't get it. Your chance to help was before you took him back to the shelter. You stopped posting and didn't ask us for help. If you had cared about him, you could have asked for help. We would have helped you with the vet results and suggested alternatives (like a new vet). We could have sent money to help with the vet bills. At the very least, we could have refunded your adoption fee and taken the cat off your hands, rather then sending him back to the shelter that you described as a high kill shelter. You failed to do any of that and waited 3 days after the fact to even tell us you took him back. So, you have long since passed the point of being trustworthy. You already proved that you don't care about him. So, why would we trust you to help him now? Honestly, you think we should send you money now? Or give the cat back to you? >That's a nice, sweet, anecdotal story. In real life, cute kittens vs. used >cats. Kittens are much easier to market. Sure, kittens are more popular. But that doesn't mean that older cats are hard to adopt out. They just need to be seen and reach the right audience. Perhaps you brough this up because you decided you'd rather have a kitten than an older cat? Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >>> I doubt that she trust you either. The actual point was that you are >>> chastising us for not getting him already, yet you are the only person [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > You don't get it. Your chance to help was before you took him back to > the shelter. You don't "get it." I've explained the choices on the timeline dictated by the shelter. > You stopped posting and didn't ask us for help. For all the right reasons too. > If you had cared about him, you could have asked for help. snipped the guilt trip As I predicted, pack your bags, we're going on a guilt trip. If there were any indication that you people had any "pull" with the OC shelter, I still would not have trusted anyone here except for one lady who you all chased off. Lyn. In the 2-3 weeks prior to returning Conan, the coarseness and vindictiveness that is sooo pervasive between you people is hardly engenders trust. None of the most vocal here has shown even a modicum of professionalism. Try denying that. >> You don't get it. Your chance to help was before you took him back to >> the shelter. > >You don't "get it." I've explained the choices on the timeline dictated by >the shelter. Oh, yes, the 14 day exchange policy. >If there were any indication that you people had any "pull" with the OC >shelter, I have no idea what you are referring to here. I was suggesting that people on this list would have helped you with the vet fees or taken the cat rather than having you return him to the shelter. I never suggested we had any "pull" with the shelter. You told it was a high kill shelter, so the idea would be to skip the shelter entirely. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >>> You don't get it. Your chance to help was before you took him back to >>> the shelter. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > -- > Meghan & the Zoo Crew What indication of that capacity to assist is there? ZIP. NADA. What IS abundantly clear to the newcomer is all the backbiting bitchfighting women here. There is no preamble making your willingness to assist in matters like Conan's when one joins the forum. You cannot rewrite history, Meghan. >>>>I doubt that she trust you either. The actual point was that you are >>>>chastising us for not getting him already, yet you are the only person [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > hardly engenders trust. None of the most vocal here has shown even a > modicum of professionalism. Try denying that. I beg to differ. My anger and frustration is starting to build...that is for sure. But it's not because you relinquished Conan. It is because you continue to sit on this newsgroup, intentionally provoking people. You would have had no reason to not trust me and still don't have a reason. But that is okay, because I don't have any need for your trust. Pam > I beg to differ. My anger and frustration is starting to build...that is > for sure. But it's not because you relinquished Conan. It is because you > continue to sit on this newsgroup, intentionally provoking people. Pam, your health is more important than his childish taunts. For your own sake, ignore him. You know that anger and frustration can't be that good for you. SignatureWeb site: http://www.slywy.com/ Message board: http://www.slywy.com/phpBB2/ Journal: http://slywy.diaryland.com/ > > I beg to differ. My anger and frustration is starting to build...that is > > for sure. But it's not because you relinquished Conan. It is because you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > own sake, ignore him. You know that anger and frustration can't be that > good for you. Nonsense, killfile queen. Anger and frustration are fine as long as we VENT. bahhhhh hahahaha >>>>>I doubt that she trust you either. The actual point was that you are >>>>>chastising us for not getting him already, yet you are the only person [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > I beg to differ. My anger and frustration is starting to build...that is > for sure. But it's not because you relinquished Conan. OH GOOD! We are making progress! > It is because you continue to sit on this newsgroup, intentionally > provoking people. snip >Pam You have that backward. I have not seeked out these ladies one by one for provocation. In deed I have not approached any of them up for any discourse. They are all in cue, waiting their turn at bat. A review of any thread will show each one has stepped forward, lobbed a provocative mud cake in my direction, demanding a response. If you want it to stop, order your minions to stand down. > >>>>>I doubt that she trust you either. The actual point was that you are > >>>>>chastising us for not getting him already, yet you are the only person [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > in my direction, demanding a response. If you want it to stop, order your > minions to stand down. seeked??????? sought maybe > I offered, and was told you all will do the rescue by yourselves. You had your chance and blew it. Fortunately, the shelter isn't high-kill- if it was, Conan would be dead by now. You're outta your senile mind if you think anyone here would ever trust you with a cat's life. In real life, cute kittens vs. used > cats. Kittens are much easier to market. That about sums up your mentality and how you value cats. >> I offered, and was told you all will do the rescue by yourselves. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >That about sums up your mentality and how you value cats. >> Ok, send me the bail money. Let's test your convictions. > >I don't trust you. I would send it to the shelter though. Watch him back peddle out of this one now...... eq >>>"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote >>>The Bargain Bin is just what an animal shelter is. As you all know, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Ok, send me the bail money. Let's test your convictions. Again, I say, with all due respect, you should be out of the picture. I would not want you to be bothered with Conan. What if he got the new kitty sick? Then they'd BOTH be screwed. You are definitely the last person we'll send any money to. I'll send a nice amount to the shelter though, if that would work. Pam > Again, I say, with all due respect, you should be out of the picture. I > would not want you to be bothered with Conan. What if he got the new [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Pam When I called - I was on hold for at least 25 whole minutes... I asked the lady if someone can pay the $50-60.00 with CC over phone. She told me she didn't see why not, but she wasn't sure. She transferred me back to the main looping answering machine. I tried 3 of the menu options and could not get an answer about CC over phone. Ideally of course the new parent would have the money with them when they pick Conan up. >> Again, I say, with all due respect, you should be out of the picture. I >> would not want you to be bothered with Conan. What if he got the new [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Ideally of course the new parent would have the money with them when > they pick Conan up. Let me tell you first hand .... standing in line at the OC shelter is a long ... slow ... process. You will have time to make friends with those around you. The cashiers move with the seasons. Bring the family foto album and a folding chair. Or some bottles of champagne in an ice chest. > When I called - I was on hold for at least 25 whole minutes... If you really want to help- don't help! The last thing Conan needs is a babbling idiot getting involved. >> When I called - I was on hold for at least 25 whole minutes... > > If you really want to help- don't help! The last thing Conan > needs is a babbling idiot getting involved. Good God, you're wrong when you try to differentiate between being a prick vs. being an a.shole. You're both. And more. *shaking head* SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > >> When I called - I was on hold for at least 25 whole minutes... > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > a prick vs. being an a.shole. You're both. And more. *shaking > head* At least I didn't make the same mistake three times after the first mistake was blatantly obvious. You're no one to criticize anyone. >> >> When I called - I was on hold for at least 25 whole >> >> minutes... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > first mistake was blatantly obvious. You're no one to criticize > anyone. That was a cryptic response. Speak your mind Phil. I can take it. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > >> >> When I called - I was on hold for at least 25 whole > >> >> minutes... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > That was a cryptic response. Speak your mind Phil. I can take it. You got the message. Don't play stupid- although you don't have to play too hard. >>> When I called - I was on hold for at least 25 whole minutes... >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > a prick vs. being an a.shole. You're both. And more. *shaking > head* Show some respect, Cheryl. You're talking about Mary's right hand man .... repository of all that is best for felines of the world ! >> Ok, send me the bail money. Let's test your convictions. >> > Again, I say, with all due respect, you should be out of the picture. But necessity can make for strange bedfellows, eh? > I would not want you to be bothered with Conan. What if he got the new > kitty sick? A very valid concern all considered. Do you think the shelter would adopt out a cat carrying a contagious disease .... especially now? > Then they'd BOTH be screwed. You are definitely the last person we'll send > any money to. I'll send a nice amount to the shelter though, if that would > work. > > Pam You failed my trust test. You would foot the bail money and then forget about him once I had him home again. You won't trust me but you expect me to trust you. >>>Ok, send me the bail money. Let's test your convictions. >> >>Again, I say, with all due respect, you should be out of the picture. > > But necessity can make for strange bedfellows, eh? We *don't* need you. Why this sense of self-importance so late in the game? >>I would not want you to be bothered with Conan. What if he got the new >>kitty sick? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > about him once I had him home again. You won't trust me but you expect me > to trust you. I am not trying to pass any test of yours. I don't need you to trust me. You are not in any kind of driver's seat position here, though you seem to think you are. I wouldn't foot the bail money if he were going home to you. I don't think you should be the one to foster him for any length of time. That was not my suggestion and I wouldn't agree with it. And I would not send money knowing that is where he was going. You don't even want him...so why are we playing this silly game? > >>>Ok, send me the bail money. Let's test your convictions. > >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > would not send money knowing that is where he was going. You don't even > want him...so why are we playing this silly game? Mainly because people keep replying to him and reacting to his trolling! Hugs, CatNipped >>>You failed my trust test. You would foot the bail money and then forget >>>about him once I had him home again. You won't trust me but you expect [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > CatNipped True enough. > >>>Ok, send me the bail money. Let's test your convictions. > >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > of time. That was not my suggestion and I wouldn't agree with it. And I > would not send money knowing that is where he was going. You don't even > want him...so why are we playing this silly game? Because he doesn't care all that much about cats and enjoys seeing people who do get upset. Phil >>>> Ok, send me the bail money. Let's test your convictions. >>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > it. And I would not send money knowing that is where he was going. > You don't even want him...so why are we playing this silly game? Just to reveal the pettiness of the players. :^) You've proven my point with this post. >You failed my trust test. You would foot the bail money and then forget >about him once I had him home again. You won't trust me but you expect me >to trust you. Nobody is asking you to trust anybody. You've caused enough trouble. We don't need your "help". You're about as helpful as a Siamese when I'm trying to clean. IN the way and damaging anything that can break. At least the Siamese is friendly and cute. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >> You failed my trust test. You would foot the bail money and then >> forget about him once I had him home again. You won't trust me but >> you expect me to trust you. > > Nobody is asking you to trust anybody. You've caused enough trouble. > We don't need your "help". snip ANY "trouble" is a result of your own emotions running amok ... and don't mean only yourself. In this forum, cats are a vehicle for you women to play one-upmanship and live out emotional dramas with happy endings. These are facts in evidence that none of you can openly deny. Oh boo hoo. Is it maybe because who you call "you women" are right in this matter? By calling it one-upmanship are you afraid that a <gasp> woman might be correct over a man? From what I have read so far Phil P. is in the same camp as the women. How ironic now that Conan is out of your and your vet's hands he is doing better. I adopted a cat that had the runs for a year and a half. Numerous vet visits, both allopathic and holistic, and many medications later, I was able to find a diet that he had no problem with and has nice solid poops. I stuck by my cat. Stacey > ANY "trouble" is a result of your own emotions running amok ... and don't > mean only yourself. In this forum, cats are a vehicle for you women to > play one-upmanship and live out emotional dramas with happy endings. These > are facts in evidence that none of you can openly deny. You spent 18 months figuring out diarrhea. Are you a proctology student? " |
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