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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 01:55 GMT
Who will volunteer to handle this? Someone well-known
and trusted by most if not all.

Meghan Noecker
Sherry,
Kelly H
Steve G. and
Lauren

seem like good candidates if any of them would want
to take it on, but there are others, too.

Will anyone volunteer?
KellyH - 17 Jun 2005 03:12 GMT
> Who will volunteer to handle this? Someone well-known
> and trusted by most if not all.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Will anyone volunteer?

I would rather not do it.  Not that I don't want to help, but the next
several days are going to be hectic for me and I wouldn't want to mess
anything up.

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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 03:17 GMT
> > Who will volunteer to handle this? Someone well-known
> > and trusted by most if not all.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> several days are going to be hectic for me and I wouldn't want to mess
> anything up.

Well, at least you know you are trusted. Plus, per your earlier post,
I think it is too soon to need money for him. Maybe tomorrow or
Saturday or Sunday someone great will whisk him away.
Catnipped - 17 Jun 2005 03:50 GMT
> Who will volunteer to handle this? Someone well-known
> and trusted by most if not all.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Will anyone volunteer?

I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me and wouldn't
contribute because of that.  There is someone on rpca who also has one whom
we've trusted on several occasions to use it for paying a vet bill for
someone who couldn't afford it (or the afore-mentioned plane ticket and
flowers, etc.), but again that would be on my recommendation and I think
that would turn off too many people here to be useful.

Hugs,

CatNipped
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 03:53 GMT
>>Who will volunteer to handle this? Someone well-known
>>and trusted by most if not all.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> CatNipped

I think the people most "turned off" are least likely to be contributors?
Catnipped - 17 Jun 2005 03:55 GMT
> >>Who will volunteer to handle this? Someone well-known
> >>and trusted by most if not all.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> >
> I think the people most "turned off" are least likely to be contributors?

Not necessarily.  Megan is very interested in helping cats, in fact she
lives to help cats.  But she *HATES* me and though she might contribute to
someone else, would not send it to my account.  There are a few others I
could name also, but I'd better not - I don't want to start another flame
war!!  We would need someone who is, if not liked, then at least not
despised!  ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped
sriddles@aol.com - 17 Jun 2005 04:24 GMT
> > > I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me and wouldn't
> > > contribute because of that.  There is someone on rpca who also has one
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> > >
> > > CatNipped

FTR, I think you're very trustworthy. But I think a lot of people are
going to be spooked about contributing to anyone's personal paypal
account. I stopped contributing to group funds after the woman on rpca
(not recently) spent all the money in the account that everyone had
contributed then disappeared from the group. And I liked her very much,
still do.
JMO, but if we could open a new account for Conan, and someone keep
records and provide the contributors with inflow/outflow it would quash
any suspicion that the appointed guardian would be anything less than
fiscally responsible.
Could you manage something like that? Do you think it *could* be done
that way? I have a Paypal account, but am not that famiiar with the
dynamics of the process.
But, like someone else said,  a fund may not be necessary. However, if
it is, again, I would be willing to contribute something, either
through Paypal or directly.
Sherryt
Cheryl - 17 Jun 2005 04:28 GMT
On Thu 16 Jun 2005 11:24:43p,  wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav
(news:1118978683.624137.215900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com):

>> > > I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
>> > > and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> FTR, I think you're very trustworthy.

You do???

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sriddles@aol.com - 17 Jun 2005 04:34 GMT
> > FTR, I think you're very trustworthy.
>
> You do???
>
> --
> Cheryl

Well, yeah, I do. In the sense that I don't think she'd take the fund
and make her house payment with the money then disappear off the group.
All of my other alleged bullshit aside, I think she'd do the right
thing by Conan. It would be like stealing from Conan and I don't think
CN would do that.

Sherry
Cheryl - 17 Jun 2005 04:43 GMT
On Thu 16 Jun 2005 11:34:47p,  wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav
(news:1118979287.087277.102930@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com):

>> > FTR, I think you're very trustworthy.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Sherry

I won't send her my info.

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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:37 GMT
> On Thu 16 Jun 2005 11:24:43p,  wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav
> (news:1118978683.624137.215900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com):
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> You do???

Sherry wrote this, asswipe. Fix your f.cking attributions.
Cheryl - 17 Jun 2005 04:42 GMT
>> >> > > I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate
>> >> > > me and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Sherry wrote this, asswipe. Fix your f.cking attributions.

Xnews doesn't handle full email addresses as nyms correctly. She
knew who it was directed to you control freak, you.

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Philip - 17 Jun 2005 04:41 GMT
>>>> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me and
>>>> wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone on rpca who
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> contributed then disappeared from the group. And I liked her very
> much, still do.

You would like to spay with a dull razor blade?   LOL

> JMO, but if we could open a new account for Conan, and someone keep
> records and provide the contributors with inflow/outflow it would
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> that way? I have a Paypal account, but am not that famiiar with the
> dynamics of the process.

It's pretty simple.  You simply execute a "funds transfer" to the email
address of the PayPal recipient which is then credited to the bank account
of that PayPal member.  I've done this a number of times with ebay
purchases.

> But, like someone else said, a fund may not be necessary. However, if
> it is, again, I would be willing to contribute something, either
> through Paypal or directly.
> Sherry

Is the fiscally responsible person going to maintain and post on this forum
a list of contributor names?  They should!  I would contribute just to piss
off a few people!   LOL
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 04:44 GMT
> Is the fiscally responsible person going to maintain and post on this forum
> a list of contributor names?  They should!  I would contribute just to piss
> off a few people!   LOL

Geezus, Philip.
Meghan Noecker - 17 Jun 2005 11:10 GMT
>FTR, I think you're very trustworthy. But I think a lot of people are
>going to be spooked about contributing to anyone's personal paypal
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Could you manage something like that? Do you think it *could* be done
>that way?

I think that would be the best way. I'm not sure if it is possible
though. You have to use a valid email address and attach it to a bank
account. Even somebody setting up a separate account would have to
have a separate account to link it to. I don't think it will let you
link two different paypal accounts to the same checking account.

Also, once the money has been collected, it would have to be sent. And
that would mean waiting several days for it to be transferred to a
personal bank account, or sending it via paypal to the vet or shelter
(in which case, we might as well send it directly to them anyway).

Hopefully, we won't need to do it, but if we do, it would be easier to
just use an existing account. No setup involved, and a person with a
paypal debit/credit card would be able to call the vet or shelter on
the phone and pay like a credit card instantly.

I don't mind doing it if it comes to that, but I think it would be
best to put it to a vote. I trust most of the people here, even most
of those who I have disagreed with.

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Philip - 17 Jun 2005 15:20 GMT
>>FTR, I think you're very trustworthy. But I think a lot of people are
>>going to be spooked about contributing to anyone's personal paypal
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> Equine and Pet Photography
> http://www.zoocrewphoto.com

Whoever becomes the fiscally responsible steward for this Conan Fund really
must post ALL the contributors' names on this forum ... just keep things
above board and honest.
equalizer - 17 Jun 2005 15:35 GMT
>>>FTR, I think you're very trustworthy. But I think a lot of people are
>>>going to be spooked about contributing to anyone's personal paypal
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>must post ALL the contributors' names on this forum ... just keep things
>above board and honest.

Your supposition that you have **ANY** input to this matter at all is laughable
at best.

eq
Steve G - 17 Jun 2005 16:53 GMT
> I think that would be the best way. I'm not sure if it is possible
> though. You have to use a valid email address and attach it to a bank
> account. Even somebody setting up a separate account would have to
> have a separate account to link it to. I don't think it will let you
> link two different paypal accounts to the same checking account.

The nicest way to do all this is to just pay whoever (vet, air freight)
directly, missing out Paypal entirely. I.e., each person rings the vet
and gets 'em to debit $x from their account. Bit of a palaver for the
vet though, so perhaps they wouldn't do it.

Paypal is semi-anonymous at least - just need a valid email addy to do
a funds transfer, there's no release of bank a/c details between
tranferer / tranferee.

I don't think you actually need to attach a Paypal a/c to a real bank
a/c? Then again, I'm not sure what the restrictions are on such
non-verified a/cs. (Can you transfer funds from a non-verifed to a
verified a/c?)

> Hopefully, we won't need to do it, but if we do, it would be easier to
> just use an existing account. No setup involved, and a person with a
> paypal debit/credit card would be able to call the vet or shelter on
> the phone and pay like a credit card instantly.

I suppose a Paypal debit card isn't needed because the a/c manager
could just use their own card and then transfer the funds from Paypal
to their own bank a/c.

> I don't mind doing it if it comes to that, but I think it would be
> best to put it to a vote. I trust most of the people here, even most
> of those who I have disagreed with.

I would rather be just chucking some cash in, rather than being the
organiser! (Ha - true of everyone, I should say). In this situation, I
would also trust most people here.

Steve.
Philip - 17 Jun 2005 18:09 GMT
> I don't think you actually need to attach a Paypal a/c to a real bank
> a/c? Then again, I'm not sure what the restrictions are on such
> non-verified a/cs. (Can you transfer funds from a non-verifed to a
> verified a/c?)
snip
> Steve

Yes you do.  It takes a few days for Paypal to set up an account, verify the
checking or savings account at your bank, link an email account to the bank
account, which you have to respond to with the amount test credited to the
account.
Steve G - 17 Jun 2005 18:47 GMT
> > I don't think you actually need to attach a Paypal a/c to a real bank
> > a/c? Then again,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> account, which you have to respond to with the amount test credited to the
> account.

I may be getting confused with verification vs. the need to present
bank a/c details initially. I was recalling that it was the
verification process that involved submitting bank a/c details, but it
sounds like I must've provided said details when I initially created a
Paypal a/c and the verification was - well - verification...

Steve.
Philip - 17 Jun 2005 21:15 GMT
>>> I don't think you actually need to attach a Paypal a/c to a real
>>> bank a/c? Then again,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Steve.

My Paypal accounts each required a branch bank account to be in existance
first.  Linking a credit card was secondary.  Getting a live person on the
phone at Paypal is a PITA but that might be appropriate here.

Considering the bail for springing Conan from kitty jail is probably about
$75, what is the cost of fostering him until a new "for ever home" is found?
KellyH - 17 Jun 2005 21:53 GMT
> My Paypal accounts each required a branch bank account to be in existance
> first.  Linking a credit card was secondary.  Getting a live person on the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> $75, what is the cost of fostering him until a new "for ever home" is
> found?

That's a verified account.  You can open an unverified account with just a
credit card.  Takes five minutes.

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Philip - 17 Jun 2005 23:04 GMT
>> My Paypal accounts each required a branch bank account to be in
>> existance first.  Linking a credit card was secondary.  Getting a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> That's a verified account.  You can open an unverified account with
> just a credit card.  Takes five minutes.

I only deal with verified sellers and buyers and those with a positive
feedback of 98.5 or higher. Too many flakes at lesser ratings.
Candace - 17 Jun 2005 23:11 GMT
> I only deal with verified sellers and buyers and those with a positive
> feedback of 98.5 or higher. Too many flakes at lesser ratings.

Uh-huh, I think you're confusing ebay with PayPal.  They're not the
same theing.  I never saw feedback being offered on PayPal.  Try to
keep up.

Candace
Philip - 17 Jun 2005 23:44 GMT
>> I only deal with verified sellers and buyers and those with a
>> positive feedback of 98.5 or higher. Too many flakes at lesser
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Candace

Silly wench.  Ebay OWNS Paypal and as such the two are inextricably tied to
promote sales.  There is a lot on Paypal that you don't see until you become
a merchant.
kitkatluna - 18 Jun 2005 00:24 GMT
> Silly wench.  

Such filth! From Philip?

Cmon Philip. Take a break from rpchb for a while. This place has even
YOU name calling now!
Philip - 18 Jun 2005 01:08 GMT
>> Silly wench.
>
> Such filth! From Philip?
>
> Cmon Philip. Take a break from rpchb for a while. This place has even YOU
> name calling now!

Wench:  a young woman. a female servant (of cats of course)(Middle English)
How could you possibly take offense?

You've got a point.  Kitten is teaching me new words, all the bad ones
first.   LOL   This one makes noises that would make a raucous Siamese
blush.
kitkatluna - 18 Jun 2005 02:31 GMT
> You've got a point.  Kitten is teaching me new words, all the bad ones
> first.   LOL   This one makes noises that would make a raucous Siamese
> blush.

Man, I'd like to see you try and deal with MY raucous Siamese. Talk
about too much trouble...
Philip - 18 Jun 2005 06:37 GMT
>> You've got a point.  Kitten is teaching me new words, all the bad
>> ones first.   LOL   This one makes noises that would make a raucous
>> Siamese blush.
>
> Man, I'd like to see you try and deal with MY raucous Siamese. Talk
> about too much trouble...

We had two Siamese years ago. Su Lin was older by 2 1/2 yrs than Thai Lan,
but both were from the same parents.  Both died at age 19, Thai passing in
'91, I think.  Thai had that old school guttural, raspy "rrrrahherrr" with
many inflections.  This kitten is well on his way to marching Thai.  Really
surprising for an 8 month old brown tabby.  Kitten has two brown racing
stripes on his back with brownish ears.  A bit strange under camera flash.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/ThaiSu-resizecomp.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/KittenTopSide.jpg
Philip - 18 Jun 2005 07:18 GMT
> We had two Siamese years ago. Su Lin was older by 2 1/2 yrs than Thai
> Lan, but both were from the same parents.  Both died at age 19, Thai
> passing in '91, I think.  Thai had that old school guttural, raspy
> "rrrrahherrr" with many inflections.  This kitten is well on his way
> to marching Thai.  Really surprising for an 8 month old brown tabby.

OOPS typo.   8 WEEK old tabby.
Meghan Noecker - 18 Jun 2005 07:40 GMT
>>> I only deal with verified sellers and buyers and those with a
>>> positive feedback of 98.5 or higher. Too many flakes at lesser
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>promote sales.  There is a lot on Paypal that you don't see until you become
>a merchant.

Do explain then where the feedback rating is with paypal. It has a
number of verified buyers and shows how long you have been a member.
And there is no rating, let alone feedback. That is strictly an ebay
thing.

I just checked mine and posted the results. This is exactly what it
says about the seller, and below, it explains the categories.

See the bottom paragraph in particular.

About friesian@zoocrewphoto.com:
To protect your security, PayPal offers information on the status of
this member.
Seller Reputation:     (75) Verified Buyers
Account Status:      Verified
Account Type:      US Premier
Account Creation Date:      Jun. 14, 2000
PayPal Member For:      5 years 4 days

   * Member may choose to deny payments without a Confirmed Address

Seller Reputation
The Seller Reputation Number measures how many Verified PayPal members
have paid that seller. New transactions are added 30 days after they
occur, to ensure that the Reputation Number reflects successful
exchanges.

Account Status
U.S. Users are considered "Verified" if they have confirmed the bank
account they have added to their PayPal account.Verification is a
positive signal to the Community that a user has complied with
Community security measures.

Account Type
Accounts can be Personal, Premier, or Business. Active sellers are
required to have a Premier or Business account.

Please note that this information is not an endorsement or guarantee
but a summary of a member's status with PayPal provided to help the
Community evaluate the other members with whom they transact.
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KellyH - 17 Jun 2005 23:25 GMT
> I only deal with verified sellers and buyers and those with a positive
> feedback of 98.5 or higher. Too many flakes at lesser ratings.

Well I'm not buying something off of eBay from you, so who cares what you
only deal with.
I have an unverified PayPal account and it's never been a problem, except
for PayPal bugging me to make it verified.  Don't feel like giving out my
bank account info.

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Philip - 18 Jun 2005 00:11 GMT
>> I only deal with verified sellers and buyers and those with a positive
>> feedback of 98.5 or higher. Too many flakes at lesser ratings.
>
> Well I'm not buying something off of eBay from you, so who cares what you
> only deal with.

More accurately stated, YOU don't care what I choose to deal with.

> I have an unverified PayPal account and it's never been a problem, except
> for PayPal bugging me to make it verified.  Don't feel like giving out my
> bank account info.

Many people share your fears. But to a seller, "unverified" raises the
"flake potential" flag.
Meghan Noecker - 18 Jun 2005 07:44 GMT
>>> I only deal with verified sellers and buyers and those with a positive
>>> feedback of 98.5 or higher. Too many flakes at lesser ratings.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Many people share your fears. But to a seller, "unverified" raises the
>"flake potential" flag.

More accurately stated, YOU believe that "unverified" raises the
"flake potential" flag.

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sriddles@aol.com - 18 Jun 2005 07:51 GMT
I've been out of pocket today and just checked in to get the latest
update on Conan. I have not been able to read every post but it appears
that no plans have been firmed up the past 24 hours. If a "plan"
develops, somebody please e-mail me. I've got a lot going on this
weekend and may not be able to read the group.
Thanks
Sherry
Philip - 18 Jun 2005 19:53 GMT
>>>> I only deal with verified sellers and buyers and those with a
>>>> positive feedback of 98.5 or higher. Too many flakes at lesser
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> More accurately stated, YOU believe that "unverified" raises the
> "flake potential" flag.

I said "a seller" .... not ALL sellers.  Your panties are still in a bunch.
Slip 'em off and let that thing air out.
Meghan Noecker - 19 Jun 2005 07:34 GMT
>>>>> I only deal with verified sellers and buyers and those with a
>>>>> positive feedback of 98.5 or higher. Too many flakes at lesser
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>I said "a seller" .... not ALL sellers.  Your panties are still in a bunch.
>Slip 'em off and let that thing air out.

Nah, I was just right back at you what you did to Kelly. You got in
her case saying that she was only one, and didn't speak for all. And
then you referred to *A* seller as if that was typical.

Your statement is above, and I will repeat it.

> Many people share your fears. But to a seller, "unverified" raises
> the "flake potential" flag.

You did not refer to yourself. You made it a general statement. And
you are not qualified to make such a statement.

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Philip - 19 Jun 2005 09:30 GMT
snip
>> Many people share your fears. But to a seller, "unverified" raises
>> the "flake potential" flag.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Equine and Pet Photography
> http://www.zoocrewphoto.com

A general statement yes, and I am fully qualified to say it.

Since this is now fully "off topic", I'll let you have the last word.
Meghan Noecker - 19 Jun 2005 10:15 GMT
>snip
>>> Many people share your fears. But to a seller, "unverified" raises
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>A general statement yes, and I am fully qualified to say it.

In your last post, you said it was referring to you, and therefore not
a general statement. Are you now agreeing that you were wrong on that
last statement?

And qualified to speak for most sellers? I think not. If so many
sellers refuse to deal with unverified buyers, then why do unverified
buyers continue to make purchases without becoming verified. I'm sure
there are *some* sellers who don't accept payment from unverified
buyers, but you have yet to prove your claim that most or all will
not.

>Since this is now fully "off topic", I'll let you have the last word.

I really doubt that.
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Diane - 19 Jun 2005 12:09 GMT
> And qualified to speak for most sellers? I think not. If so many
> sellers refuse to deal with unverified buyers, then why do unverified
> buyers continue to make purchases without becoming verified.

I did. I didn't like giving so much info to PayPal, and I don't think I
ever had a problem. I became verified only because someone wanted to pay
me for some articles.
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dfdfd - 19 Jun 2005 11:38 GMT
>snip
>>> Many people share your fears. But to a seller, "unverified" raises
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Since this is now fully "off topic", I'll let you have the last word.

Translation: "You've beaten me, but I'm not enough of a man to admit it,
so I'll just use the off-topic lame and back out that way".
Meghan Noecker - 18 Jun 2005 07:44 GMT
>> I only deal with verified sellers and buyers and those with a positive
>> feedback of 98.5 or higher. Too many flakes at lesser ratings.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>for PayPal bugging me to make it verified.  Don't feel like giving out my
>bank account info.

Most people in general are honest. I have accepted payments from many
unverified people, and I only had one problem, and that was because
the person had a Canadian address. He was impatient and complained
after only 3 days (not enough time to ship something across the
border). And because it was a foreign address, paypal refunded the
money without even asking me for proof of shipping. I had the receipt
from the customs declaration and later an email aying he received it
okay. And I never got my money back. So, I won't ship to other
countries anymore.I think their policy is lousy on that topic. But no
problem with unverified accounts. I just get a receipt at the post
office and get delivery conformation. If there's ever a problem, I
have proof.

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Meghan Noecker - 18 Jun 2005 07:32 GMT
>> > I don't think you actually need to attach a Paypal a/c to a real bank
>> > a/c? Then again,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>sounds like I must've provided said details when I initially created a
>Paypal a/c and the verification was - well - verification...

You still have to attach it to at least a bank account or credit card.
I think you need both. I think I had to list one as a backup.
Technically, you get away with one account. I use my check card as the
credit card, so both options go back to my actual bank account.

I haven't had any problems using my account and sending my info (email
and mailing address) when buying things from people. But I do
understand how people here would be concerned about other people
getting their home address. I'm not sure, but I think you can not
include that if you are paying for a service rather than an item.

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Mary - 18 Jun 2005 17:08 GMT
> >> > I don't think you actually need to attach a Paypal a/c to a real bank
> >> > a/c? Then again,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> getting their home address. I'm not sure, but I think you can not
> include that if you are paying for a service rather than an item.

You're right. You can opt for your address not to show
if you are the one paying.
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 18:16 GMT
> > I think that would be the best way. I'm not sure if it is possible
> > though. You have to use a valid email address and attach it to a bank
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> organiser! (Ha - true of everyone, I should say). In this situation, I
> would also trust most people here.

A good discussion of the options, filed for when we might
need it.
Annie Wxill - 17 Jun 2005 23:13 GMT
.. Megan is very interested in helping cats, in fact she
> lives to help cats.  But she *HATES* me and though she might contribute to
> someone else, would not send it to my account.  There are a few others I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Hugs,
> CatNipped

Megan orchestrated at least two online group rescues that I can recall.
One involved moving a cat cross the U.S., the other was not as far. Those
were the only two times I've sent donations to an individual. I believe my
money went to a good cause.
I know she can do it, but given the disrespect she's received here lately, I
would not blame Megan at all if she does not offer to take on the job of
handling donations for this cause.
I think a person's decision to help, or not, this cause or any other cause
should be a personal decision made with personal reasons.  It should be
respected. It should not be a subject of discussion or speculation or an
opportunity to take a pot-shot at anyone.
Just my opinion,
Annie
Philip - 18 Jun 2005 00:10 GMT
snip
> I know she can do it, but given the disrespect she's received here lately,
> I would not blame Megan at all if she does not offer to take on the job of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Just my opinion,
> Annie

Which is why a swift humanitarian rescues should be done with no public fan
fare.  Just do it on your own.
Catnipped - 18 Jun 2005 02:28 GMT
> .. Megan is very interested in helping cats, in fact she
> > lives to help cats.  But she *HATES* me and though she might contribute to
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Just my opinion,
> Annie

Sorry, Annie, you misunderstood me.  I wasn't taking a potshot at Megan - I
respect what she does for cats and thought I was saying so.  I was only
explaining that she hates me, which is simply the truth, and that she's not
the only one here who does (as Cheryl quite plainly stated in an earlier
post).  In the interest of helping the cat I was just suggesting that
someone else who isn't despised by anyone here be the holder of the PayPal
account.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Mary - 18 Jun 2005 03:50 GMT
> .. Megan is very interested in helping cats, in fact she
> > lives to help cats.  But she *HATES* me and though she might contribute to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> would not blame Megan at all if she does not offer to take on the job of
> handling donations for this cause.

Megan deserves the same amount of respect she gives others. Her "help"
is not needed--or wanted-- in this case. If Conan is not adopted over the
next
few days, enough people here have offered to help with either funds or
legwork,
we can get him out of that shelter and into a home. And if nobody had
offered,
I would do it alone, with my own  resources. And if those who offered
suddenly
have other obligations when the time comes, I will do it alone.
hamandcheese@betweentheknees.com - 18 Jun 2005 04:28 GMT
> And if those who offered suddenly have other obligations when the time comes, I will do it alone.

My word is always good.

-mhd
Mary - 18 Jun 2005 04:37 GMT
> > And if those who offered suddenly have other obligations when the time comes, I will do it alone.
>
> My word is always good.

I have no doubt about that.
Cheryl - 17 Jun 2005 03:58 GMT
>> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me and
>> wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone on rpca
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I think the people most "turned off" are least likely to be
> contributors?

Not necessarily true.  I loathe CN but I trust the person (Victor)
that she's talking about.  I've sent him a check before so he
already knows my personal info.

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Catnipped - 17 Jun 2005 03:57 GMT
> >> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me and
> >> wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone on rpca
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> that she's talking about.  I've sent him a check before so he
> already knows my personal info.

LOL!  See what I mean Pam?  ;>
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 04:10 GMT
>>>>I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me and
>>>>wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone on rpca
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> LOL!  See what I mean Pam?  ;>

Er. Um. I...uh...stand corrected? ;)
LOL.
Cheryl - 17 Jun 2005 04:13 GMT
>> >> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
>> >> and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> LOL!  See what I mean Pam?  ;>

That doesn't "see what you mean" at all. Just because I loathe you
doesn't mean that on your recommendation of a third party
involvement, that I wouldn't contribute. It just means I don't
like you. Why should you care if I don't like you? Or any of the
others who don't? This isn't about you, it's about Conan.

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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:21 GMT
> >> >> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
> >> >> and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> like you. Why should you care if I don't like you? Or any of the
> others who don't? This isn't about you, it's about Conan.

You made it about Lori, you uncouth, hateful, piece of sh.t
rust-belt dweller.
Cheryl - 17 Jun 2005 04:24 GMT
>> >> >> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
>> >> >> and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> You made it about Lori, you uncouth, hateful, piece of sh.t
> rust-belt dweller.

lol

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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:27 GMT
> >> >> >> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
> >> >> >> and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> lol

Even when people are pulling together to help an animal,
you have to be a petty a.shole. You disgust me.
Cheryl - 17 Jun 2005 04:29 GMT
>> >> >> >> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate
>> >> >> >> me and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> Even when people are pulling together to help an animal,
> you have to be a petty a.shole. You disgust me.

You disgusted me before this. You and CN. And figure out how to use
your newsreader because I'm tired of having to rewrap my posts to
you.

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Philip - 17 Jun 2005 04:41 GMT
>>>>> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
>>>>> and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> like you. Why should you care if I don't like you? Or any of the
> others who don't? This isn't about you, it's about Conan.

It is remarkable that between yourselves this backbiting continues when you
try to pull together.
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 04:44 GMT
>>>>>>I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
>>>>>>and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> It is remarkable that between yourselves this backbiting continues when you
> try to pull together.

KUMBAYAAAA, BITCHES!
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:54 GMT
> >>>>>>I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
> >>>>>>and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> >
> KUMBAYAAAA, BITCHES!

heh. You make "Kumbaya" sound like something to
accompany a karate kick. :) You rock. I am coming to
Chicago one day and we are going shopping, to lunch,
and etc., and I am going to get to give Jasperduds a kiss
on his shiny wedge-shaped head. :)
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 05:10 GMT
>>KUMBAYAAAA, BITCHES!
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> and etc., and I am going to get to give Jasperduds a kiss
> on his shiny wedge-shaped head. :)

Here he is in all his glory today. While we were busy trying to save the
world...eh...I mean Conan, this guy was trying to get a suntan. :)

http://public.fotki.com/kitkatluna/miscellaneous/jasper_dudley/dscf0007.html
http://public.fotki.com/kitkatluna/miscellaneous/jasper_dudley/dscf8.html

:)
Pam
sriddles@aol.com - 17 Jun 2005 05:18 GMT
> >>KUMBAYAAAA, BITCHES!
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> http://public.fotki.com/kitkatluna/miscellaneous/jasper_dudley/dscf0007.html
> http://public.fotki.com/kitkatluna/miscellaneous/jasper_dudley/dscf8.html

Ooo. He *is* a beautiful cat. And he sure has a Siamese triangle-head.
Gorgeous and mysterious, he looks.
We had an exciting day and I wish I'd taken a picture. A giant frog got
in the house and the cats were helping me herd it back out the door. If
anyone has ever had the experience of having five cats help herd a
frog, you can imagine it was certainly a Kodak moment I missed out on.

Sherry

> :)
> Pam
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 05:22 GMT
>>>>KUMBAYAAAA, BITCHES!
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Ooo. He *is* a beautiful cat. And he sure has a Siamese triangle-head.
> Gorgeous and mysterious, he looks.

One of his million nicknames is wedgie. :)

> We had an exciting day and I wish I'd taken a picture. A giant frog got
> in the house and the cats were helping me herd it back out the door. If
> anyone has ever had the experience of having five cats help herd a
> frog, you can imagine it was certainly a Kodak moment I missed out on.

Well, I'm laughing just thinking about it...so I can only imagine how
funny it was in real life! 5 cats herding a frog. HA! :)
Mary - 18 Jun 2005 02:05 GMT
> > >>KUMBAYAAAA, BITCHES!
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> > Here he is in all his glory today. While we were busy trying to save the
> > world...eh...I mean Conan, this guy was trying to get a suntan. :)

http://public.fotki.com/kitkatluna/miscellaneous/jasper_dudley/dscf0007.html

http://public.fotki.com/kitkatluna/miscellaneous/jasper_dudley/dscf8.html

> Ooo. He *is* a beautiful cat. And he sure has a Siamese triangle-head.
> Gorgeous and mysterious, he looks.
> We had an exciting day and I wish I'd taken a picture. A giant frog got
> in the house and the cats were helping me herd it back out the door. If
> anyone has ever had the experience of having five cats help herd a
> frog, you can imagine it was certainly a Kodak moment I missed out on.

Hahahaha! How did the frog get out alive? when we had a chipmunk in the
house I called the neighbors after we got it out to let them know that we
were
not killing one another. It went like this: "Cheeky, NO!" Lunge ....miss
....THUMP.
"John GET her! Buddha, NO! Where did he go? Get Cheeks, she is behind
the nght stand! CHEEKS NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Mary - 18 Jun 2005 02:02 GMT
> >>KUMBAYAAAA, BITCHES!
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Here he is in all his glory today. While we were busy trying to save the
> world...eh...I mean Conan, this guy was trying to get a suntan. :)

http://public.fotki.com/kitkatluna/miscellaneous/jasper_dudley/dscf0007.html
> http://public.fotki.com/kitkatluna/miscellaneous/jasper_dudley/dscf8.html
>
> :)
> Pam

Somehow I missed these this morning. These are Jasperduds
"Glamour Shots." I looked at the whole album, there are others
that are great in this series two. What an elegant boy.
Philip - 17 Jun 2005 08:13 GMT
>>>>>>> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
>>>>>>> and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>>
> KUMBAYAAAA, BITCHES!

I do not know what that means.
Cheryl - 17 Jun 2005 04:45 GMT
>>>>>> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
>>>>>> and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> It is remarkable that between yourselves this backbiting
> continues when you try to pull together.

CN isn't here to "pull togather" with anything. She's only here
because she can send out the F bomb when she wants to. Unlike
anecdotes group.

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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:18 GMT
> >> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me and
> >> wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone on rpca
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> that she's talking about.  I've sent him a check before so he
> already knows my personal info.

You are such an ignorant bitch. You suck up to Philip but
"loathe" Lori. What a class act you are. Ugh. Nobody needs
to discredit you. Nobody could do a better job than you
already to.
Cheryl - 17 Jun 2005 04:20 GMT
>> >> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
>> >> and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> to discredit you. Nobody could do a better job than you
> already to.

Based on the likes of CN?  Says you.  :)

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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:29 GMT
> >> >> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
> >> >> and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Based on the likes of CN?  Says you.  :)

You're just a nasty little petty jealous person. There isn't
a single good reason for anyone to "loathe" Lori.

But congrats on posting this under your own name
for a change. lol
Cheryl - 17 Jun 2005 04:31 GMT
>> >> >> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
>> >> >> and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> But congrats on posting this under your own name
> for a change. lol

I always post under my name. Oh, the Rhubarb was a mistake but not
meant for here.

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Catnipped - 17 Jun 2005 14:26 GMT
> > >> >> I have a PayPal account, but too many people here hate me
> > >> >> and wouldn't contribute because of that.  There is someone
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> But congrats on posting this under your own name
> for a change. lol

But Mary, of course there is a reason for Cheryl to loathe me - I committed
the crime of (GASP) not jumping onto the bandwagon and bashing you!  See,
Mary, it's all *your* fault!  ;>

[Really Pam, that's all there was to it.  I didn't attack a single person
here or say anything nasty to anyone.  But when I didn't react to Mary's
posts with invective (like a certain "clique" here does), first I was
"warned" not to be friends with Mary, then I got nasty comments about "your
new best friend", and then, when I told everyone that I wasn't going to be
mean to Mary just because everyone else was, I was suddenly persona non
grata and everyone started "loathing" me.  I challenge anyone here to find a
single post where I started being nasty to someone before they were nasty to
me in *MANY* posts before that for *NO OTHER REASON* than that I was nice to
Mary  And the degree of invective... I called someone "stupid" after she
called me a "half-rotted dildo".  So when Cheryl says I only post here so I
can drop the "F" bomb?  I've used that maybe 4 or 5 times in all the time
I've been posting here, and only after being *extremely* provoked.  Now,
there's the truth, anyone can google to see that it is the truth, but let's
sit back and watch all the lies that will be spread trying to counter it.]

Hugs,

CatNipped
Cheryl - 18 Jun 2005 04:34 GMT
> But Mary, of course there is a reason for Cheryl to loathe me -
> I committed the crime of (GASP) not jumping onto the bandwagon
> and bashing you!  See, Mary, it's all *your* fault!  ;>

Loathe may be a strong word. I save that for people I've actually
met, though from your posts, I feel like I know you.  Strong
dislike. There.  It has nothing to do with Mary. I like some of the
people who seem to like her. See, that's not it. I even like Mary
more than I like you.

Here's what it is:
In your posts you make yourself out to be self-important.
 Examples:
 Your thread of the tour of your house.
 Your constant reminder that you're a member of MENSA.
 Your assurance that everyone knows all of your accomplishments.
 Many others I can't remember right now.

Several of us laugh at you in email.  Example: The thread of the 57
picture tour of your house. You're better than us, aren't you.

Example:  The pant suit you recently bought and you whined about
not finding size 5 clothes.  That jacket didn't fit you. You
probably need a size 8.  The pants didn't fit your body right. I
suppose that could be from losing 150 pounds so quickly when you
had your gut sutured shut. See?  I know more about you than I want
to know.  You post for affirmation, yet you just look pathetic.
Almost every post of yours screams "LOVE ME". I go back and forth
between strong dislike and pity. Even your daughter doesn't talk to
you. You told us that.

The latest reason I dislike you so immensely is because you chased
away Lyn. She won't post here anymore for fear of your nasty posts
being archived forever about her son. That he'll find them some
day. I'm sure you're so proud about that.

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Philip - 18 Jun 2005 06:37 GMT
>> But Mary, of course there is a reason for Cheryl to loathe me -
>> I committed the crime of (GASP) not jumping onto the bandwagon
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> being archived forever about her son. That he'll find them some
> day. I'm sure you're so proud about that.

This has to all do with cats!

This is a PRIME example of why this forum is primarily a club for woemen.


Catnipped - 18 Jun 2005 17:08 GMT
> > But Mary, of course there is a reason for Cheryl to loathe me -
> > I committed the crime of (GASP) not jumping onto the bandwagon
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> being archived forever about her son. That he'll find them some
> day. I'm sure you're so proud about that.

You're a very confused person, aren't you?  The things you've listed are 1)
wrong and/or 2) were posted to anecdotes not health+behav.   *AND* you are
citing things that may have caused you envy, but you *STILL* haven't shown
where I started attacking someone before they attacked me several times.

As far as Lyn... I called Lyn stupid (her son will figure that one out
without having to google archives) - Lyn called me a half-rotted dildo (her
son will love finding out she can use such lovely language won't he?).

Now, you want to talk about posting personal stuff???  No, I won't sink to
your level - you may be a pathetic a.s, but I won't humiliate you in public
as you've tried to do me.
Cheryl - 19 Jun 2005 00:35 GMT
<snip - google it if you can't remember what was up there>

> You're a very confused person, aren't you?  The things you've
> listed are 1) wrong

Were not.

and/or 2) were posted to anecdotes not
> health+behav.  

Even though that isn't true, what difference does that make? You're
the one that likes to make sure everyone in rpca knows
which flame wars you're involved in here. You know that. Besides,
you use this group as your personal toilet rather than reply to
things in that group that might make it "ugly".

Ping Lyn {OT}
http://tinyurl.com/82kx6

*AND* you are citing things that may have caused
> you envy,

Envy?  Pulease. Envy what? What exactly about you should I be
envious of pray tell?  

but you *STILL* haven't shown where I started
> attacking someone before they attacked me several times.
>
> As far as Lyn... I called Lyn stupid (her son will figure that
> one out without having to google archives) - Lyn called me a
> half-rotted dildo (her son will love finding out she can use
> such lovely language won't he?).

Oh, there was more than that. Wanna see?  Thanks for allowing me
to be Google Queen today. I found another I'd like to share. But
for now, here are two where you mention Lyn's son and it wasn't
that long ago. I'm surprised you don't remember, mensa and all.

-------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Catnipped" <lcr...@houston.rr.com>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Subject: Re: BENGAL cats
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:59:15 -0500
Lines: 94
Message-ID: <3d86hdF6olli6U1@individual.net>

<http://tinyurl.com/b8fbn>

For you maybe, but I have doubts that it was the best thing for
that poor boy having to grow up with a hard selfish person like
you for a mother!

------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Catnipped" <lcr...@houston.rr.com>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Subject: Re: Prozac instead of Elavil, more frustrations
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:45:49 -0500
Lines: 60
Message-ID: <3fmgc2F8hjefU1@individual.net>

<http://tinyurl.com/bh46u>

Sherry, I really don't give a crap how Lyn says it, she's still
advising handing out drugs for every "may" or "might" scenario
just to "rule out" "possible" problems.  I wouldn't be surprised
if her kitties weren't little dopeheads - and lord help her child
if he ever exhibits excess energy one day 'cause he "might" have
ADHD and be put on Ritilin!  Again, drugs aren't always the
solution - in fact most of the time they just add to the problem.

---------------------------------------------------------------

> Now, you want to talk about posting personal stuff???  No, I
> won't sink to your level - you may be a pathetic a.s, but I
> won't humiliate you in public as you've tried to do me.

What's stopping you *this time*? Not me.

Here's another one that is why I can't stand you:
o-f-f t-o-p-i-c
http://tinyurl.com/bgm5e

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CatNipped - 19 Jun 2005 01:04 GMT
> <snip - google it if you can't remember what was up there>
>
> > You're a very confused person, aren't you?  The things you've
> > listed are 1) wrong
>
> Were not.

Were too!  So there!

> and/or 2) were posted to anecdotes not
> > health+behav.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Ping Lyn {OT}
> http://tinyurl.com/82kx6

*SHE* was the one who got pissed off at what happened here and took it over
there - and didn't even have the courage enough to address me, but took her
pettiness out on anyone who responded to me there.  I was just bringing it
back where it started.

> *AND* you are citing things that may have caused
> > you envy,
>
> Envy?  Pulease. Envy what? What exactly about you should I be
> envious of pray tell?

All those higher qualities you obviously don't have - or maybe envy isn't
the word, perhaps fixated would be more appropriate since you even went to
the trouble of counting the pictures in a link I posted (that's pretty
obsessive wouldn't you say?).  Please get over me!

> but you *STILL* haven't shown where I started
> > attacking someone before they attacked me several times.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> that poor boy having to grow up with a hard selfish person like
> you for a mother!

How was that being nasty about her son?????!

> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> ADHD and be put on Ritilin!  Again, drugs aren't always the
> solution - in fact most of the time they just add to the problem.

Again, what's nasty to her son about that?  In both cases I was expressing
sorrow for him, not saying *anything* nasty about him.  Lyn was being a
foul-mouted harradin to me for no other reason than that I sided with Mary
in an argument.  I'd feel sorry for *ANYONE* with a mother like that!  And
those were the *ONLY* two times I ever mentioned him, so go google some more
and don't come back with your bull until you find something better than
those two lame attempts to prove your slander!

> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> What's stopping you *this time*? Not me.

Show me where I did it *ANY* time!  I haven't and I won't because, piece of
slime that you are, I won't lower myself to do to you what you've tried to
do to me.

> Here's another one that is why I can't stand you:
> o-f-f t-o-p-i-c
> http://tinyurl.com/bgm5e

Here, I'll post the entire post and you tell me what's so hateful about what
I wrote...

WARNING, WARNING, WARNING!!!!  DO NOT READ THIS NOTE IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO
READ ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH CAT HEALTH AND BEHAVIOR.  FOR
THOSE PEOPLE - STOP READING NOW, I MEAN IT - STOP!!!

After my "Apology", I received *several* emails from lurkers and non-lurkers
here in the group saying, "you don't need to apologize, I agree with what
you said, it's OK to be passionate about cats."

I received *ONE* email from someone who didn't like me posting to the group.

There are the equivalent of "armed camps" here on this group and the attacks
they make on each other (with *NO* mention of cats in the posts) are more
disruptive than any thousands of heated arguments ABOUT CATS' HEALTH AND
BEHAVIOR.

I've seen threads that were hundreds of posts long about changing an email
address or reporting someone to an ISP(1).  The posts consisted mostly of
profanity and personal attacks.  These threads were participated in by the
*ONE* person who emailed me who didn't like *ME* posting to the group, and
several of the ones chastising me on-list for writing lots of posts about
whether *CATS* are safe outdoors.  WTF???

(1)  People - there are slime-bags out there posting KIDDIE PORN on the
internet!  If you want to spend your time getting someone kicked off of
their ISP, go after *THEM* and not someone who happens to disagree with you!
Do you *REALLY* think an ISP is going to get rid of a *PAYING* customer (or
even a freebie who they can foist their advertising on) because they called
somebody a f.ck-head!???!
Cheryl - 19 Jun 2005 01:26 GMT
> *SHE* was the one who got pissed off at what happened here and
> took it over there - and didn't even have the courage enough to
> address me, but took her pettiness out on anyone who responded
> to me there.  I was just bringing it back where it started.

That's only how you interpretted it. Not reality.

>> *AND* you are citing things that may have caused
>> > you envy,
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> link I posted (that's pretty obsessive wouldn't you say?).
> Please get over me!

Neither word is accurate. Besides - the only reason I know how many
pictures there were is because it was part of our humorous email
laughing at you. I honestly can't remember who counted them. The fact
remains that you posted a pictorial of your living quarters just so
that people would validate you as being such a great person, or that
you have so much, I don't know what really. It was a thread that
screamed "LOVE ME". Envy? Again I say "Pulease!"  lol

<snip>

>> <http://tinyurl.com/b8fbn>
>
> How was that being nasty about her son?????!

Not nasty *about* her son, nasty posts to and about her that
reference her son.

> Again, what's nasty to her son about that?  In both cases I was
> expressing sorrow for him, not saying *anything* nasty about
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> and don't come back with your bull until you find something
> better than those two lame attempts to prove your slander!

See above.

>> Here's another one that is why I can't stand you:
>> o-f-f t-o-p-i-c
>> http://tinyurl.com/bgm5e
>
> Here, I'll post the entire post and you tell me what's so
> hateful about what I wrote...

The *entire* thread was hateful and had ulterior motives, and you
know it.

> WARNING, WARNING, WARNING!!!!  DO NOT READ THIS NOTE IF YOU DO
> NOT WANT TO READ ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH CAT
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> they can foist their advertising on) because they called
> somebody a f.ck-head!???!

Pathetic. *shaking head*

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"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited
breath."
- W.C. Fields

CatNipped - 19 Jun 2005 02:52 GMT
> > *SHE* was the one who got pissed off at what happened here and
> > took it over there - and didn't even have the courage enough to
> > address me, but took her pettiness out on anyone who responded
> > to me there.  I was just bringing it back where it started.
> >
> That's only how you interpretted it. Not reality.

No, that's exactly what happened - go google again if you missed it (but as
much attention as you pay to my posts, I'm sure you didn't miss it, you're
just twisting the facts to fit *your* reality).

> >> *AND* you are citing things that may have caused
> >> > you envy,
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> pictures there were is because it was part of our humorous email
> laughing at you. I honestly can't remember who counted them. The fact

I have to admit, being too cowardly to post openly so that you have to talk
about someone behind their back is funny, but I'm surprised you can laugh at
yourself like that.  And if you think your continued implications of
strangers laughing at me is somehow going to affect me, you are "projecting"
way too much.  I couldn't care less what brain-dead idiots like you say
about me - in fact the very fact that slimeballs hate me is, to me, the
highest of compliments!

> remains that you posted a pictorial of your living quarters just so
> that people would validate you as being such a great person, or that
> you have so much, I don't know what really. It was a thread that

None of which was said or implied - those are all your words so I can only
infer envy.  The context in which they were posted had nothing to do with
any of that.

> screamed "LOVE ME". Envy? Again I say "Pulease!"  lol

*I'M* not the one so concerned with the opinions of strangers on UseNet that
I spend my time googling about what they say, counting the pictures in a
link they post, or any of the other obsessive behavior you're exhibiting.
As far as screaming love me - *you* don't want to go there, believe me!

> <snip>
> >>
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> Not nasty *about* her son, nasty posts to and about her that
> reference her son.

That's not what you implied with your slander - go back and read what you
wrote.  And I would have had to get a *LOT* nastier than that to even come
close to as nasty as she was about me and *MY* family.  I didn't accuse her
of a felony in a public forum - but she did accuse me of that, among many,
many other sleazy, disgusting things she wrote.  You can pine and cry all
you want but I, for one, am glad the vicious bitch is gone!

> > Again, what's nasty to her son about that?  In both cases I was
> > expressing sorrow for him, not saying *anything* nasty about
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> The *entire* thread was hateful and had ulterior motives, and you
> know it.

Hateful how?  And are you now so obsessed with me that you are implying you
can read my mind and interpret what I *meant*?  I don't ever employ subtlety
with an idiot, it's a waste of my time - I say exactly what I mean when I
write to people like you.

> > WARNING, WARNING, WARNING!!!!  DO NOT READ THIS NOTE IF YOU DO
> > NOT WANT TO READ ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH CAT
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> >
> Pathetic. *shaking head*

Yes, you certainly are - quit shaking your head about it and do something to
change!
Catnipped - 18 Jun 2005 17:22 GMT
> The latest reason I dislike you so immensely is because you chased
> away Lyn. She won't post here anymore for fear of your nasty posts
> being archived forever about her son. That he'll find them some
> day. I'm sure you're so proud about that.

And please show me even *ONE* post where I said something about Lyn's son.
Again, I won't stoop to the depths you seem to wallow in.
Mary - 18 Jun 2005 17:30 GMT
> > The latest reason I dislike you so immensely is because you chased
> > away Lyn. She won't post here anymore for fear of your nasty posts
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> And please show me even *ONE* post where I said something about Lyn's son.
> Again, I won't stoop to the depths you seem to wallow in.

Whoa--I have not been reading the Ignorant Bitch Cheryl's
posts, but stumbled upon this one. I have been reading just
about every post in this group for a very long time, and nobody
had ever said anything bad about Lyn's son. It's a lie. So
Cheryl can post proof or be recognized as the liar she is.

What I think must have happened is that Lynnie the Vicious
Netcopping Censorious Control Freak finally understood
that HER vicious posts are being archived forever and that
Jonathan will one day read them. I would worry about that
too.
CatNipped - 18 Jun 2005 17:51 GMT
> > > The latest reason I dislike you so immensely is because you chased
> > > away Lyn. She won't post here anymore for fear of your nasty posts
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> Jonathan will one day read them. I would worry about that
> too.

It just kills me that these a.ses keep accusing others of the things *they*
do.  I've never once posted a personal attack like the one Cheryl just
posted above or the ones Lyn posted about me.  Yet I'm the one they accuse
of being mean-spirited.

It seems like the mean-spirited see only that in others and can't comprehend
being any different.  Just like Phillip can't recognize compassion, honesty
or honor in others here and keeps looking for other motives for the people
who want to help the cat that he exchanged like a poorly-fitting pair of
shoes.  He doesn't have those qualities, so he can't believe that others can
have them.

People always seem to ascribe to others what they are thinking or feeling
themselves.  It's like my mother said, the only one who checks behind the
bedroom door is the one who has hidden there before!
Mary - 18 Jun 2005 18:07 GMT
> > > > The latest reason I dislike you so immensely is because you chased
> > > > away Lyn. She won't post here anymore for fear of your nasty posts
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> themselves.  It's like my mother said, the only one who checks behind the
> bedroom door is the one who has hidden there before!

The facts are simple. Lynnie (gentleboa@peacemail.com, and
usenetlyn@yahoo.com  decided that she did not like my posts.
In fact, she did not like them so much that she began a campaign
to silence me that included lying to Bellsouth about my sending
her a Trojan, and conducting an online smear campaign to get
others to do so. Megan participated, as she does not like my
posts either. My crime? Posting "filth," (I guess she means my
bad language, though "half-rotted dildo" (copyright Lynnie, 2005)
was not in there, and being something she called "abusive."

What that meant was that when asswipes likd Carl announce
that they have been cruel or are being cruel to cats, (in his case
it was that he had just had three beautiful kittens declawed though
he knew full and well it was mutilation, that he did it to save his
"newly upholstered walls," and that he didn't want any sh.t
about it, I get angry and use language effectively to express
my anger. :)

After throwing every thing and anything at me, Lynnie found
herself dodging some sh.t in the form of personal information
she has posted for all to see in several Usenet groups.

This is when she accelerated efforts to get me to stop
posting, and to get you to stop posting because you
had refused to jump on the bandwagon. So suddenly
we find Lynnie losing control and posting the very
filth that she accused me of posting.

Lynnie wished aloud that my house would burn down
with my cats in it. Megan (zuzu22@webtv.net) invited
me to slash my wrists in a warm bath (hee!) and general
hysteria reigned as I refused to budge.

The lesson is, never give in to bullies. Never allow censors
to succeed. NEVER listen to what tedious people say or
interfere with what charming people do--(Oscar Wilde)--
and last but not least:

IF YOU CAN DISH IT OUT BUT YOU CANNOT
TAKE IT, HAND IN YOUR f.cking SPOON.

:)
CatNipped - 18 Jun 2005 18:41 GMT
t least:

> IF YOU CAN DISH IT OUT BUT YOU CANNOT
> TAKE IT, HAND IN YOUR f.cking SPOON.
>
> :)

Well, certainly not in defense, but in explanation...

People with no self-esteem and no feelings of self-worth *care* about what
anonymous strangers on UseNet think about them.  People with no real life
get so involved with what goes on here that they are devastated when their
pseudo life here starts unraveling when someone challenges their assumed
authority - the "persona" they think they've created of being all-knowing on
some subject (I actually had a user on another group claim she was a college
"English" professor in order to try to win an argument about a