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Conan Update!
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Mary - 16 Jun 2005 23:36 GMT I just spoke with Katherine, the Kennel supervisor. She told me the same thing that Pam was told--he is recovering from his cold, and is in good shape and is up for adoption "this weekend."
Katherine said that they do not have a set amount of time that they put cats up for adoption for until they are euthanized and that there are many cats that have been there a long time. (She seemed to be disputing that they are a "kill" shelter--but she did not get too specific, so who knows. We all know how it works. They get so many cats in.)
She said he is a handsome boy and very adoptable. I asked if I could leave my name and telephone number so that I could be notified if he was not adopted in time. She said they do not do that but that we can keep calling back to check on his status. She will be there this weekend and Hector will be there on Monday.
It seems to me that just as Pam says, he is in no danger right now, or even within a week or two from now. But I cannot get anyone to guarantee me they will call me if he is not adopted.
She gave me another pet I.D. number--after ascertaining that it was indeed Phillip who returned him. (Nice of you to post using your own name you nasty old dirtbag.) It is A0700875.
So we have a global forum here! Can we find someone who wants this big beautiful boy who is recovering well from his cold? The fee from the web site is $71-114.00. I will volunteer to pay the fee for anyone who wants him and will love him and take care of him. (I will pay the fee directly to the shelter, of course.)
We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot. Maybe a few months of primo cat food? An arrangement with a local PetSmart or an online store, to prepay for cat food for him for the person who adopts him?
You are all super. Conan does not have to die! Yippee!!
Candace - 17 Jun 2005 00:03 GMT > We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot. > Maybe a few months of primo cat food? > An arrangement with a local PetSmart or an online store, to prepay for cat > food for him for the person who adopts him? > > You are all super. Conan does not have to die! Yippee!! Yes, it's wonderful that he is still among the living. I'm surprised that they are not willing to make the phone call to keep someone advised of his status. Phil said he also left his name and # and requested to be contacted if Conan's "time" runs out. I would think, for a special circumstance, they would do that.
I can't even think of any "regular" poster on this ng who is in CA. A transport from LA to you would be a very looooong ride for any kitty, esp. as Steve said, a sick kitty. It would be nice to get someone in LA who wants him. I don't know, there kinda has to be a point person and it's easier if the point person is in proximity to the kitty.
Candace
sriddles@aol.com - 17 Jun 2005 00:16 GMT > I can't even think of any "regular" poster on this ng who is in CA. A > transport from LA to you would be a very looooong ride for any kitty, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Candace Candace, wasn't there a "Mary" who lived in LA, and worked/volunteered with a shelter there? Have you seen her post lately?
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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 00:27 GMT > > I can't even think of any "regular" poster on this ng who is in CA. A > > transport from LA to you would be a very looooong ride for any kitty, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Candace, wasn't there a "Mary" who lived in LA, and worked/volunteered > with a shelter there? Have you seen her post lately? There was! We need to Google for her email.
Candace - 17 Jun 2005 00:34 GMT > > I can't even think of any "regular" poster on this ng who is in CA. A > > transport from LA to you would be a very looooong ride for any kitty, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sherry Yes, you're right! MMMaryinLA or something like that. She is the squirrel rescuer, Mimi the squirrel, she has a website, I think. No, I haven't seen her for awhile either. Yes, we should find her.
Candace
equalizer - 17 Jun 2005 00:52 GMT >> > I can't even think of any "regular" poster on this ng who is in CA. A >> > transport from LA to you would be a very looooong ride for any kitty, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Candace Google is your friend:
http://www.mary.cc/squirrels/
Candace - 17 Jun 2005 00:36 GMT > Candace, wasn't there a "Mary" who lived in LA, and worked/volunteered > with a shelter there? Have you seen her post lately? > > Sherry mmmaryinla@aol.com
Matthew - 17 Jun 2005 01:43 GMT > > Candace, wasn't there a "Mary" who lived in LA, and worked/volunteered > > with a shelter there? Have you seen her post lately? > > > > Sherry > > notvalid @ aol .com I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's unmunged address is pretty bad etiquette.
Candace - 17 Jun 2005 02:31 GMT > I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's unmunged > address is pretty bad etiquette. You're right, I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking. I've removed it.
Candace
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 21:35 GMT >> I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's >> unmunged address is pretty bad etiquette. > > You're right, I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking. I've removed it. > > Candace What does that mean? The post is still on usenet for anyone to see.
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kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 21:40 GMT >>>I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's >>>unmunged address is pretty bad etiquette. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What does that mean? The post is still on usenet for anyone to see. I think it was the email address taht she removed...so that the person would not get endless spam?
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 21:50 GMT >>>You're right, I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking. I've removed it. >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I think it was the email address taht she removed...so that the > person would not get endless spam? Right. But that's not possible, because the post is out there in Usenet for anyone to see. You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than you can edit an email after it's already in the recipient's mailbox. So I'm wondering how she thinks she removed it. And possibly hoping to educate about how Usenet works. Or maybe learn about something I didn't think existed.
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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 22:55 GMT > >>>You're right, I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking. I've removed it. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > educate about how Usenet works. Or maybe learn about something I > didn't think existed. Some servers honor canceled posts. Do you know how to cancel a post?
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 23:33 GMT >> Right. But that's not possible, because the post is out there in >> Usenet for anyone to see. You can't edit a post after it's sent, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> > Some servers honor canceled posts. Do you know how to cancel a post? I know that it's possible, but as I understand it it's not a clean procedure; it will only work for those machines that haven't already pulled the post to a local archive, and as you said, for the "some" servers that honor posts. So to my mind, cancelling a post is not 100% effective. But you're right; there is a cancel function and it does have some effect. On the other hand, I can still view this supposedly-cancelled post. The cancel probably does keep most spammers from extracting the address, though.
Apparently, I can cancel a post via esc-^C, if I wanted to. Because a cancel invariably means that some people see a post and some do not, I avoid that kind of behavior to reduce confusion.
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Candace - 17 Jun 2005 23:28 GMT > Right. But that's not possible, because the post is out there in Usenet > for anyone to see. You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than > you can edit an email after it's already in the recipient's mailbox. So > I'm wondering how she thinks she removed it. And possibly hoping to > educate about how Usenet works. Or maybe learn about something I > didn't think existed. Okay, I'm confused. I post through Google, it has nothing to do with AOL. In fact, I was not *on* AOL when I made that post; I was on a different ISP altogether. Google has an option where you can remove your own posts. I did that and I no longer see it. Is it still there? If so, why can't I see it through Google?
Candace
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 23:51 GMT >> Right. But that's not possible, because the post is out there in >> Usenet for anyone to see. You can't edit a post after it's sent, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > your own posts. I did that and I no longer see it. Is it still > there? If so, why can't I see it through Google? Do you really want to know how newsgroups work on a nuts and bolts level?
Newsgroups are supported by a network of news servers. Google is one of thousands (more?) of news servers. When you post using google, google's servers then make the posts available to other servers, which make the post available to other servers, etc., until eventually all of the servers have received the message. Everybody who uses a newsgroup has some sort of client that retrieves messages from a server.
Now, google does some things with its groups a little differently than a normal news server, but I'll assume that a google cancel is similar to a normal newsgroup cancel. When you cancel the post, a message goes out to all the newsgroups saying, "Get rid of this post." There are a few kinks, though. One, it takes a while -- sometimes a few days -- for all the servers to get the message. Two, it doesn't affect posts that users have already retrieved, so if someone's already seen it, there it stays. And three, some newsgroups don't honor message cancellations.
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Glitter Ninja - 18 Jun 2005 00:15 GMT >Newsgroups are supported by a network of news servers. Google is one >of thousands (more?) of news servers. When you post using google, [snip]
Candace's post may still be on news server spools, however she appears to have removed the post from Google's archives. I'm not sure that was necessary, since Google seems to be munging email addresses in posts now. If an actual cancel message went out, you're right, most servers won't acknowledge the cancel. I cannot cancel posts at my own ISP and I post with nn on a Unix shell (old school!). My experience is that places like Giganews don't honor cancels.
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Steve G - 18 Jun 2005 01:11 GMT (...)
> Now, google does some things with its groups a little differently than > a normal news server, but I'll assume that a google cancel is similar > to a normal newsgroup cancel. It's not. A Google cancel deletes post from the archive, it doesn't (AFAIK) attempt to stop the post from propogating round news servers in the usual way.
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Candace - 18 Jun 2005 02:34 GMT > It's not. A Google cancel deletes post from the archive, it doesn't > (AFAIK) attempt to stop the post from propogating round news servers in > the usual way. Oh, that 'splains it, thanks. I will be more etiquette-conscious in the future.
Candace
hamandcheese@betweentheknees.com - 17 Jun 2005 23:59 GMT >> Right. But that's not possible, because the post is out there in Usenet >> for anyone to see. You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Candace I got it off Giganews long after you said it was taken care of.
-mhd
Candace - 18 Jun 2005 00:36 GMT > I got it off Giganews long after you said it was taken care of. > > -mhd Oh, well, sorry, I tried. And it was munged when I did read it anyway. It may not even be valid anymore, it was over a year ago that the post I got it from was written and she doesn't post to usenet anymore.
Candace
clfr@adelphia.net - 18 Jun 2005 04:11 GMT > >> Right. But that's not possible, because the post is out there in Usenet > >> for anyone to see. You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > -mhd AFAIK, it takes a few days for a cancelled post to disappear from view/the archives.
Cathy
Diane - 18 Jun 2005 01:30 GMT > > Right. But that's not possible, because the post is out there in Usenet > > for anyone to see. You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > your own posts. I did that and I no longer see it. Is it still there? > If so, why can't I see it through Google? Some servers honour cancels; some don't. It's an imperfect solution, but worth trying.
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Meghan Noecker - 18 Jun 2005 07:25 GMT >> Right. But that's not possible, because the post is out there in Usenet >> for anyone to see. You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >your own posts. I did that and I no longer see it. Is it still there? > If so, why can't I see it through Google? I don't know, but I tried it once when I was selling something and realized I had posted the URL wrong for the item.
It said it was cancelled, but the next day, I found several replies telling me the address didn't work. And I cancelled it less than 5 minutes after I sent it. So, it didn't work.
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Diane - 18 Jun 2005 01:26 GMT > >>>You're right, I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking. I've removed it. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > for anyone to see. You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than > you can edit an email after it's already in the recipient's mailbox. Some servers allow you to send cancels.
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Philip - 17 Jun 2005 23:04 GMT >>> I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's >>> unmunged address is pretty bad etiquette. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What does that mean? The post is still on usenet for anyone to see. AOL'rs don't understand how posting works in the real world.
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 23:14 GMT >>>>I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's >>>>unmunged address is pretty bad etiquette. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > AOL'rs don't understand how posting works in the real world. I see that in your world, it is okay to be nasty and judgmental even though you chastise others for doing the same. Just because your words don't contain expletives in them, they are not any less crude. You are acting like an a.shole but wronging others for doing the same.
Practice what you preach, old man who should know better. Pam (AOLer who understands just fine thanks)
:\ Philip - 17 Jun 2005 23:43 GMT >>>>> I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's >>>>> unmunged address is pretty bad etiquette. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Pam (AOLer who understands just fine thanks) > :\ Drinking for Mary's coffee cup? Tell me what you know about AOL and how they post to Usenet.
kitkatluna - 18 Jun 2005 00:23 GMT >>>>>>I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's >>>>>>unmunged address is pretty bad etiquette. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Drinking for Mary's coffee cup? Tell me what you know about AOL and how > they post to Usenet. Duh. We dont USE AOL to post to usenet. Any longer.
Pam
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 00:27 GMT > > We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot. > > Maybe a few months of primo cat food? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > transport from LA to you would be a very looooong ride for any kitty, > esp. as Steve said, a sick kitty. Yes. A flight would not be too bad. But the fact is, my husband does not want another cat.
>It would be nice to get someone in > LA who wants him. I don't know, there kinda has to be a point person > and it's easier if the point person is in proximity to the kitty. It would be. But I want an orange boy, I always have. I will adopt him if he does not get adopted in due time.
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 00:34 GMT > > We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot. > > Maybe a few months of primo cat food? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > that they are not willing to make the phone call to keep someone > advised of his status. I guess they are just really busy.
Phil said he also left his name and # and
> requested to be contacted if Conan's "time" runs out. Both Katherine and Terri are kennel supervisors. I spoke with Katherine. Phil, who did you speak with?
Iwould think,
> for a special circumstance, they would do that. She seemed to think he will be fine and that his is in no danger of being euthanized. Her attitude was, what's the big deal? And when I mentioned that since I know they are a Kill shelter I was concerned that he might be put down she said, "Did Jessica tell you we are a "kill" shelter?" I said she did, because, well, she did. Katherine did not seem to like that.
KellyH - 17 Jun 2005 00:45 GMT > Yes, it's wonderful that he is still among the living. I'm surprised > that they are not willing to make the phone call to keep someone [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > LA who wants him. I don't know, there kinda has to be a point person > and it's easier if the point person is in proximity to the kitty. I do hope someone local can adopt him, that would be much easier for Conan. If not, I can get him into the shelter I'm with, but that is also a long ways away.
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PawsForThought - 17 Jun 2005 01:02 GMT > I do hope someone local can adopt him, that would be much easier for Conan. > If not, I can get him into the shelter I'm with, but that is also a long > ways away. Is there any way to get him on Petfinders.org I wonder? This shelter where he's at, I wonder if the do adoption fairs or anything.
Lauren
animzmirot - 17 Jun 2005 03:35 GMT Kelly, check your email quickly if you can wrt conan.
> > Yes, it's wonderful that he is still among the living. I'm surprised > > that they are not willing to make the phone call to keep someone [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > -- > -Kelly KellyH - 17 Jun 2005 00:42 GMT >I just spoke with Katherine, the Kennel supervisor. She told me the same > thing that Pam was told--he is recovering from his cold, and is in good [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > You are all super. Conan does not have to die! Yippee!! I feel much better about the shelter he's in after you all have talked to them. Isn't it amazing how the shelter was able to get him better but Phillip wasn't? I'm surprised they let him take a kitten after that. Anyway, I'm proud of myself that I found the right shelter :) I'll put something towards whatever Conan needs. I'm sure he will get adopted soon though. He's so handsome.
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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 01:11 GMT > I feel much better about the shelter he's in after you all have talked to > them. Isn't it amazing how the shelter was able to get him better but > Phillip wasn't? Pfft. Truly amazing. *eyeroll*
>I'm surprised they let him take a kitten after that. > Anyway, I'm proud of myself that I found the right shelter :) Yep, pat yourself on the back!
> I'll put something towards whatever Conan needs. I'm sure he will get > adopted soon though. He's so handsome. I want him terribly, but you sure are right about the long trip. And my husband really does not want a third cat, though I think I could bring him around.
Rhonda - 17 Jun 2005 03:27 GMT Sometimes things are just meant to be... the fact that this one just happened to be a big, beautiful orange boy. There's that one that grabs our heartstrings and who are we to argue with fate? :)
I hope it works out that you or someone else can take him.
You might want to have a fast plan in place. I fell for a 10 year old sweetheart cat at our shelter a few years old, and I was just there to look at birds. They assured me that he was not in danger, that everyone there loved him. They said there would not be a problem keeping him unless he got sick. I still had them "gold dot" him in case of he ran out of time there. They took my name and number.
I got a call 2 weeks later. Bear had a URI, his second one there, and they decided that was enough. I had about a day to make the decision to spring him.
Maybe the supervisor you spoke with might informally keep your name, even though they don't have that policy? Offer to send her cookies if she keeps you in mind? (I can't tell you how many times the cookie offer has helped me.)
Fingers crossed for Conan, and thanks Mary, for helping!
Rhonda
> I want him terribly, but you sure are right about the long trip. > And my husband really does not want a third cat, though > I think I could bring him around. Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:12 GMT > Sometimes things are just meant to be... the fact that this one just > happened to be a big, beautiful orange boy. There's that one that grabs > our heartstrings and who are we to argue with fate? :) Oh, man! I could just see this now. I have never had a boy cat. The girls would be thrown for a loop, but they are both pretty easy going. I have the room that he could have his own territory and come out when he wanted. This place is pretty "precious" with breakables (not my fault, all inherited, all too sentimental to get rid of plus I have to pass the crap on to nieces and nephews) so a high jumper would be a challenge, but I could deal with it. It would give me an excuse the store the things that are not, as it happens, my taste anyway.
The only problem is my husband. But you can bet this: if nobody takes him, I will get him out of there and into safe hands one way or another.
> I hope it works out that you or someone else can take him. Me too!!
> You might want to have a fast plan in place. I fell for a 10 year old > sweetheart cat at our shelter a few years old, and I was just there to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > she keeps you in mind? (I can't tell you how many times the cookie offer > has helped me.) Ooo, I like this. The Cookie Technique. I spoke with Katherine, maybe I should have a friendly chat with the other kennel managers!
> Fingers crossed for Conan, and thanks Mary, for helping! Thanks, Rhonda, but I did nothing. I am grateful to Philip for making it easy to find him,and to Pam and Phil and everyone who offered to donate money if we had needed it to save him. All that has really changed is that we know he is not on death row-- and that the shelter knows people across the country and the world are interested in his fate. I think Phil is right, that this alone might buy him more time. Also, they are human beings. They have to feel sad that Philip gave this boy a home then yanked him out, sick and feeling low, to dump him back in the shelter.
Catnipped - 17 Jun 2005 01:31 GMT > I just spoke with Katherine, the Kennel supervisor. She told me the same > thing that Pam was told--he is recovering from his cold, and is in good [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > You are all super. Conan does not have to die! Yippee!! Just tell me where to send the money (we've done this on RPCA for lots of things including flying a member to her sister who needed her, sending flowers to a member in the hospital in the UK - on member has a PayPal account that he uses).
Hugs,
CatNipped
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 01:51 GMT > > We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot. > > Maybe a few months of primo cat food? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > flowers to a member in the hospital in the UK - on member has a PayPal > account that he uses). Lori, I don't want to handle the money. Maybe Meghan would? She seems like someone everyone would trust. Steve G., maybe? Let's see, who else never fights with anyone here? :)
KellyH - 17 Jun 2005 01:58 GMT > Lori, I don't want to handle the money. Maybe Meghan would? > She seems like someone everyone would trust. Steve G., maybe? > Let's see, who else never fights with anyone here? :) It doesn't appear we need money *yet* for this. I think we should see how this adoption weekend goes, and if someone could check in on Monday, maybe someone who has already spoken with them so they don't have too many different people to deal with, then go from there. If he is not adopted soon, my gut tells me to get someone to spring him from the shelter and then we can work on a forever home.
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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 02:09 GMT > > Lori, I don't want to handle the money. Maybe Meghan would? > > She seems like someone everyone would trust. Steve G., maybe? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > soon, my gut tells me to get someone to spring him from the shelter and then > we can work on a forever home. I think you're right. Sounds like a good plan. He is so beautiful someone will likely snatch him right up.
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 02:41 GMT >>>We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot. >>>Maybe a few months of primo cat food? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > She seems like someone everyone would trust. Steve G., maybe? > Let's see, who else never fights with anyone here? :) Honestly, if i werent going to be in isolation starting Monday for a week and possibly not online with you guys, I'd do it. It's just not something I can take on right now.
pam, who doesnt fight ;)
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 03:07 GMT > >>>We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot. > >>>Maybe a few months of primo cat food? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > week and possibly not online with you guys, I'd do it. It's just not > something I can take on right now. I was going to suggest you but saw your earlier note re what you will be busy with next week, chica.
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 03:11 GMT >>>>>We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot. >>>>>Maybe a few months of primo cat food? [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > I was going to suggest you but saw your earlier note re what > you will be busy with next week, chica. I have requested that DH hook me up with wireless at my parents house which is where I'll be during isolation for about a week. (no hubby. no cats. WAAHH!! I NEED INTERNET) Hopefully, i'll be online, but no guarantees. I might feel like even bigger dog poop by then. I've been trying to make light of it and jokes and stuff...on the phone was explaining to a friend that my parents would practically be handing me food under the door...and he was like...yeah...maybe a really, really FLAT pizza. HAHHAHAHAH! I found it funny. Maybe you had to be there.
Diane - 17 Jun 2005 03:30 GMT > I have requested that DH hook me up with wireless at my parents house > which is where I'll be during isolation for about a week. (no hubby. no [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > food under the door...and he was like...yeah...maybe a really, really > FLAT pizza. HAHHAHAHAH! I found it funny. Maybe you had to be there. I hope you feel (and get) better soon.
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kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 03:32 GMT >>I have requested that DH hook me up with wireless at my parents house >>which is where I'll be during isolation for about a week. (no hubby. no [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I hope you feel (and get) better soon. Thanks. It has been a crazy couple of months for sure, but I'm gonna be great! Jasper told me so! :)
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:14 GMT > >>I have requested that DH hook me up with wireless at my parents house > >>which is where I'll be during isolation for about a week. (no hubby. no [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks. It has been a crazy couple of months for sure, but I'm gonna be > great! Jasper told me so! :) I have a good feeling about it all. But you will feel weird and being quarantined because you are radioactive is not going to help. I know you have some phone buddies you can talk with. I am so glad you still have your parents.
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 04:21 GMT >I hope you feel (and get) better soon. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you have some phone buddies you can talk with. I am so glad you still > have your parents. Im grateful, too. At their house, isolation will be much easier to accomplish as Tim and I live in a condo that isnt nearly as big...so much harder to keep the cats away from me. And you cant sleep in the same bed with anyone for a week, either. So, it just made sense for me to go to their house and hole up in my old bedroom which already has tv, cable and phone. and a big bed. And good food prepared for me (flattened and slid under the door of course!) I've been on this "low iodine" diet in preparation and man...i havent had dairy in almost 2 weeks!!!!!! NO CHOCOLATE, NO CHEESE, NO ICE CREAM! I told mom those would be some of my first requests. :)
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:35 GMT > >I hope you feel (and get) better soon. > >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > to go to their house and hole up in my old bedroom which already has tv, > cable and phone. and a big bed. Aww, man! Your ROOM is still intact! That is really cute.
>And good food prepared for me (flattened > and slid under the door of course!) I've been on this "low iodine" diet > in preparation and man...i havent had dairy in almost 2 weeks!!!!!! NO > CHOCOLATE, NO CHEESE, NO ICE CREAM! I told mom those would be some of my > first requests. :) There is nothing like Mama's when you are sick. I left home when I was very young, but sometimes came home when I was sick enough to be afraid. This is scary stuff, would be for anyone, and I think unusual in your age group. But you know it will be okay. BTW, you have to start eating lots of garlic. When cancer cells are placed in a petri dish with crushed garlic, they shrivel up and die. I am not lying. It boosts your immune system something fierce. John is not so fond of it, so sometimes I just boil a handful of thin spaghetti and crush two or three fresh cloves of garlic, sautee on medium lightly in olive oil, and toss with the drained pasta, salt, pepper, and a bit of parm cheese. A few diced raw tomatoes are FABULOUS in it too. It's a five-minite lunch.
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 04:41 GMT > Aww, man! Your ROOM is still intact! That is really cute. It's not quite as cute as it sounds, since I only actually lived in that room for a few summers and a 2 year period. It's not my childhood home. But it is an empty room, which is still referred to as "Pammy's room".
:) Clearly, id much rather be at home with my husband and furkitties, but I must protect them from my glow-rays.
> There is nothing like Mama's when you are sick. I left home when I was very > young, but sometimes came home when I was sick enough to be afraid. > This is scary stuff, would be for anyone, and I think unusual in your age > group. Thyroid cancer seems to be showing up more and more, and oddly in my age group and even younger. There are some moms who post on my support group board who have kids with it that are in their teens. It also seems MUCH MUCH more prevalent in women than men. CHECK YOUR NECKS, PEOPLE!!! :)
> But you know it will be okay. BTW, you have to start eating > lots of garlic. When cancer cells are placed in a petri dish with crushed > garlic, they shrivel up and die. I am not lying. Well, fortunately I have been eating LOTS of garlic over the past 2 weeks to help spice sh.t up. Man, those cancer cells are gonna be in for a real treat come monday between the garlic and the RADIOACTIVE FUCKIN IODINE!!!!!! Here little thyroid cell...come get it! iodine! yummy! Then...BLIZZAM! DEAD!
Thyroids are over-rated anyway. ;) Pam
Cheryl - 17 Jun 2005 03:37 GMT >> I have requested that DH hook me up with wireless at my parents >> house which is where I'll be during isolation for about a week. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I hope you feel (and get) better soon. I hope so too! Pam, you're going through so much.
 Signature Cheryl
"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 03:48 GMT >>>I have requested that DH hook me up with wireless at my parents >>>house which is where I'll be during isolation for about a week. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > :) I appreciate the good thoughts, folks. Hoomins can have it tuff too! Craziness!
Catnipped - 17 Jun 2005 01:41 GMT > I just spoke with Katherine, the Kennel supervisor. She told me the same > thing that Pam was told--he is recovering from his cold, and is in good [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > You are all super. Conan does not have to die! Yippee!! Oh, and I think a few people in rpca live in the LA area. Want me to ask there?
Hugs,
CatNipped
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 01:50 GMT "Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote :
> Oh, and I think a few people in rpca live in the LA area. Want me to ask > there? YES!! I posted a message to rec.pets.cats.rescue, too.
Catnipped - 17 Jun 2005 02:54 GMT > "Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote : > > > Oh, and I think a few people in rpca live in the LA area. Want me to ask > > there? > > YES!! I posted a message to rec.pets.cats.rescue, too. OK, one person already responded that she lives 40 miles north of LA and couldn't adopt him but would be willing to keep him at her home, in isolation from her cats (if he's still contagious), until we can get him to his forever home.
Hugs,
CatNipped
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 03:06 GMT > > "Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote : > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > isolation from her cats (if he's still contagious), until we can get him to > his forever home. It's a start!
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 03:07 GMT >>>"Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote : >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > It's a start! Wow! In six short hours, we've basically got a foster home for him...with none of us living nearby! There is a reason to wade thru the sh.t around these groups!
:) Mary - 17 Jun 2005 03:20 GMT > >>>"Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote : > >>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > sh.t around these groups! > :) Thanks so much for your help with all of this today. Everyone pitched in, and if we had had to raise money fast we had lots of people who wanted to help. Great stuff. Last night I just knew he was a goner.
*Plop* Had I known that dickweed had exaggerated his health problems I would not have gotten so upset.
*Flush*
Some sh.t for you, as I hate to disappoint!
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 03:24 GMT >>>>>"Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote : >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Some sh.t for you, as I hate to disappoint! Now do we all get to sit around the fire and sing kumbaya? ;)
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:03 GMT > >>>>>"Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote : > >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Now do we all get to sit around the fire and sing kumbaya? > ;) Well, I will tell you, Pam, I feel a lot better than last night. I know lots of people do.
Rhonda - 17 Jun 2005 03:32 GMT Yippee!
Rhonda
> OK, one person already responded that she lives 40 miles north of LA and > couldn't adopt him but would be willing to keep him at her home, in > isolation from her cats (if he's still contagious), until we can get him to > his forever home.
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