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Mary - 16 Jun 2005 23:36 GMT
I just spoke with Katherine, the Kennel supervisor. She told me the same
thing that Pam was told--he is recovering from his cold, and is in good
shape and is up for adoption "this weekend."

Katherine said that they do not have a set amount of time
that they put cats up for adoption for until they are euthanized and that
there are many cats that have been there a long time. (She seemed to be
disputing that they are a "kill" shelter--but she did not get too specific,
so who knows. We all know how it works. They get so many cats in.)

She said he is a handsome boy and very adoptable. I asked if I could leave
my name and telephone number so that I could be notified if he was not
adopted in time. She said they do not do that but that we can keep calling
back to check on his status. She will be there this weekend and Hector will
be there on Monday.

It seems to me that just as Pam says, he is in no danger right now, or even
within a week or two from now. But I cannot get anyone to guarantee me they
will call me if he is not adopted.

She gave me another pet I.D. number--after ascertaining that it was indeed
Phillip who returned him. (Nice of you to post using your own name you nasty
old dirtbag.) It is A0700875.

So we have a global forum here! Can we find someone who wants this big
beautiful boy who is recovering well from his cold? The fee from the web
site is $71-114.00. I will volunteer to pay the fee for anyone who wants him
and will love him and take care of him. (I will pay the fee directly to the
shelter, of course.)

We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot.
Maybe a few months of primo cat food?
An arrangement with a local PetSmart or an online store, to prepay for cat
food for him for the person who adopts him?

You are all super. Conan does not have to die! Yippee!!
Candace - 17 Jun 2005 00:03 GMT
> We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot.
> Maybe a few months of primo cat food?
> An arrangement with a local PetSmart or an online store, to prepay for cat
> food for him for the person who adopts him?
>
> You are all super. Conan does not have to die! Yippee!!

Yes, it's wonderful that he is still among the living.  I'm surprised
that they are not willing to make the phone call to keep someone
advised of his status.  Phil said he also left his name and # and
requested to be contacted if Conan's "time" runs out.  I would think,
for a special circumstance, they would do that.

I can't even think of any "regular" poster on this ng who is in CA.  A
transport from LA to you would be a very looooong ride for any kitty,
esp. as Steve said, a sick kitty.  It would be nice to get someone in
LA who wants him.  I don't know, there kinda has to be a point person
and it's easier if the point person is in proximity to the kitty.

Candace
sriddles@aol.com - 17 Jun 2005 00:16 GMT
> I can't even think of any "regular" poster on this ng who is in CA.  A
> transport from LA to you would be a very looooong ride for any kitty,
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>
> Candace

Candace, wasn't there a "Mary" who lived in LA, and worked/volunteered
with a shelter there? Have you seen her post lately?

Sherry
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 00:27 GMT
> > I can't even think of any "regular" poster on this ng who is in CA.  A
> > transport from LA to you would be a very looooong ride for any kitty,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Candace, wasn't there a "Mary" who lived in LA, and worked/volunteered
> with a shelter there? Have you seen her post lately?

There was! We need to Google for her email.
Candace - 17 Jun 2005 00:34 GMT
> > I can't even think of any "regular" poster on this ng who is in CA.  A
> > transport from LA to you would be a very looooong ride for any kitty,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Sherry

Yes, you're right!  MMMaryinLA or something like that.  She is the
squirrel rescuer, Mimi the squirrel, she has a website, I think.  No, I
haven't seen her for awhile either.  Yes, we should find her.

Candace
equalizer - 17 Jun 2005 00:52 GMT
>> > I can't even think of any "regular" poster on this ng who is in CA.  A
>> > transport from LA to you would be a very looooong ride for any kitty,
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Candace

Google is your friend:

http://www.mary.cc/squirrels/
Candace - 17 Jun 2005 00:36 GMT
> Candace, wasn't there a "Mary" who lived in LA, and worked/volunteered
> with a shelter there? Have you seen her post lately?
>
> Sherry

mmmaryinla@aol.com
Matthew - 17 Jun 2005 01:43 GMT
> > Candace, wasn't there a "Mary" who lived in LA, and worked/volunteered
> > with a shelter there? Have you seen her post lately?
> >
> > Sherry
>
> notvalid @ aol .com

I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's unmunged
address is pretty bad etiquette.
Candace - 17 Jun 2005 02:31 GMT
> I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's unmunged
> address is pretty bad etiquette.

You're right, I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking.  I've removed it.

Candace
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 21:35 GMT
>> I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's
>> unmunged address is pretty bad etiquette.
>
> You're right, I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking.  I've removed it.
>
> Candace

What does that mean?  The post is still on usenet for anyone to see.

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kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 21:40 GMT
>>>I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's
>>>unmunged address is pretty bad etiquette.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> What does that mean?  The post is still on usenet for anyone to see.

I think it was the email address taht she removed...so that the person
would not get endless spam?
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 21:50 GMT
>>>You're right, I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking.  I've removed it.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I think it was the email address taht she removed...so that the
> person would not get endless spam?

Right.  But that's not possible, because the post is out there in Usenet
for anyone to see.  You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than
you can edit an email after it's already in the recipient's mailbox.  So
I'm wondering how she thinks she removed it.  And possibly hoping to
educate about how Usenet works.  Or maybe learn about something I
didn't think existed.

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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 22:55 GMT
> >>>You're right, I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking.  I've removed it.
> >>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> educate about how Usenet works.  Or maybe learn about something I
> didn't think existed.

Some servers honor canceled posts. Do you know how to cancel
a post?
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 23:33 GMT
>> Right.  But that's not possible, because the post is out there in
>> Usenet for anyone to see.  You can't edit a post after it's sent,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>
> Some servers honor canceled posts. Do you know how to cancel a post?

I know that it's possible, but as I understand it it's not a clean
procedure; it will only work for those machines that haven't already
pulled the post to a local archive, and as you said, for the "some"
servers that honor posts.  So to my mind, cancelling a post is not
100% effective.  But you're right; there is a cancel function and it
does have some effect.  On the other hand, I can still view this
supposedly-cancelled post.  The cancel probably does keep most
spammers from extracting the address, though.

Apparently, I can cancel a post via esc-^C, if I wanted to.  Because a
cancel invariably means that some people see a post and some do not, I
avoid that kind of behavior to reduce confusion.

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Candace - 17 Jun 2005 23:28 GMT
> Right.  But that's not possible, because the post is out there in Usenet
> for anyone to see.  You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than
> you can edit an email after it's already in the recipient's mailbox.  So
> I'm wondering how she thinks she removed it.  And possibly hoping to
> educate about how Usenet works.  Or maybe learn about something I
> didn't think existed.

Okay, I'm confused. I post through Google, it has nothing to do with
AOL.  In fact, I was not *on* AOL when I made that post; I was on a
different ISP altogether.  Google has an option where you can remove
your own posts.  I did that and I no longer see it.  Is it still there?
If so, why can't I see it through Google?

Candace
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 23:51 GMT
>> Right.  But that's not possible, because the post is out there in
>> Usenet for anyone to see.  You can't edit a post after it's sent,
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> your own posts.  I did that and I no longer see it.  Is it still
> there?  If so, why can't I see it through Google?

Do you really want to know how newsgroups work on a nuts and bolts
level?

Newsgroups are supported by a network of news servers.  Google is one
of thousands (more?) of news servers.  When you post using google,
google's servers then make the posts available to other servers, which
make the post available to other servers, etc., until eventually all
of the servers have received the message.  Everybody who uses a
newsgroup has some sort of client that retrieves messages from a
server.

Now, google does some things with its groups a little differently than
a normal news server, but I'll assume that a google cancel is similar
to a normal newsgroup cancel.  When you cancel the post, a message
goes out to all the newsgroups saying, "Get rid of this post."  There
are a few kinks, though.  One, it takes a while -- sometimes a few
days -- for all the servers to get the message.  Two, it doesn't
affect posts that users have already retrieved, so if someone's
already seen it, there it stays.  And three, some newsgroups don't
honor message cancellations.

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Glitter Ninja - 18 Jun 2005 00:15 GMT
>Newsgroups are supported by a network of news servers.  Google is one
>of thousands (more?) of news servers.  When you post using google,

[snip]

 Candace's post may still be on news server spools, however she appears
to have removed the post from Google's archives.  I'm not sure that was
necessary, since Google seems to be munging email addresses in posts
now.
 If an actual cancel message went out, you're right, most servers won't
acknowledge the cancel.  I cannot cancel posts at my own ISP and I post
with nn on a Unix shell (old school!).  My experience is that places
like Giganews don't honor cancels.

Stacia
Steve G - 18 Jun 2005 01:11 GMT
(...)
> Now, google does some things with its groups a little differently than
> a normal news server, but I'll assume that a google cancel is similar
> to a normal newsgroup cancel.

It's not. A Google cancel deletes post from the archive, it doesn't
(AFAIK) attempt to stop the post from propogating round news servers in
the usual way.

S.
Candace - 18 Jun 2005 02:34 GMT
> It's not. A Google cancel deletes post from the archive, it doesn't
> (AFAIK) attempt to stop the post from propogating round news servers in
> the usual way.

Oh, that 'splains it, thanks.  I will be more etiquette-conscious in
the future.

Candace
hamandcheese@betweentheknees.com - 17 Jun 2005 23:59 GMT
>> Right.  But that's not possible, because the post is out there in Usenet
>> for anyone to see.  You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Candace

I got it off Giganews long after you said it was taken care of.

-mhd
Candace - 18 Jun 2005 00:36 GMT
> I got it off Giganews long after you said it was taken care of.
>
> -mhd

Oh, well, sorry, I tried.  And it was munged when I did read it anyway.
It may not even be valid anymore, it was over a year ago that the post
I got it from was written and she doesn't post to usenet anymore.

Candace
clfr@adelphia.net - 18 Jun 2005 04:11 GMT
> >> Right.  But that's not possible, because the post is out there in Usenet
> >> for anyone to see.  You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> -mhd

AFAIK, it takes a few days for a cancelled post to disappear from
view/the archives.

Cathy
Diane - 18 Jun 2005 01:30 GMT
> > Right.  But that's not possible, because the post is out there in Usenet
> > for anyone to see.  You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> your own posts.  I did that and I no longer see it.  Is it still there?
>  If so, why can't I see it through Google?

Some servers honour cancels; some don't. It's an imperfect solution, but
worth trying.
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Meghan Noecker - 18 Jun 2005 07:25 GMT
>> Right.  But that's not possible, because the post is out there in Usenet
>> for anyone to see.  You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>your own posts.  I did that and I no longer see it.  Is it still there?
> If so, why can't I see it through Google?

I don't know, but I tried it once when I was selling something and
realized I had posted the URL wrong for the item.

It said it was cancelled, but the next day, I found several replies
telling me the address didn't work. And I cancelled it less than 5
minutes after I sent it. So, it didn't work.

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Diane - 18 Jun 2005 01:26 GMT
> >>>You're right, I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking.  I've removed it.
> >>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> for anyone to see.  You can't edit a post after it's sent, any more than
> you can edit an email after it's already in the recipient's mailbox.  

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Philip - 17 Jun 2005 23:04 GMT
>>> I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's
>>> unmunged address is pretty bad etiquette.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> What does that mean?  The post is still on usenet for anyone to see.

AOL'rs don't understand how posting works in the real world.
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 23:14 GMT
>>>>I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's
>>>>unmunged address is pretty bad etiquette.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> AOL'rs don't understand how posting works in the real world.

I see that in your world, it is okay to be nasty and judgmental even
though you chastise others for doing the same. Just because your words
don't contain expletives in them, they are not any less crude. You are
acting like an a.shole but wronging others for doing the same.

Practice what you preach, old man who should know better.
Pam (AOLer who understands just fine thanks)
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Philip - 17 Jun 2005 23:43 GMT
>>>>> I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's
>>>>> unmunged address is pretty bad etiquette.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Pam (AOLer who understands just fine thanks)
> :\

Drinking for Mary's coffee cup?  Tell me what you know about AOL and how
they post to Usenet.
kitkatluna - 18 Jun 2005 00:23 GMT
>>>>>>I imagine you did not intend to harm, but posting someone else's
>>>>>>unmunged address is pretty bad etiquette.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Drinking for Mary's coffee cup?  Tell me what you know about AOL and how
> they post to Usenet.

Duh. We dont USE AOL to post to usenet. Any longer.

Pam
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 00:27 GMT
> > We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot.
> > Maybe a few months of primo cat food?
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> transport from LA to you would be a very looooong ride for any kitty,
> esp. as Steve said, a sick kitty.

Yes. A flight would not be too bad. But the fact is, my husband does
not want another cat.

>It would be nice to get someone in
> LA who wants him.  I don't know, there kinda has to be a point person
> and it's easier if the point person is in proximity to the kitty.

It would be. But I want an orange boy, I always have. I will
adopt him if he does not get adopted in due time.
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 00:34 GMT
> > We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot.
> > Maybe a few months of primo cat food?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> that they are not willing to make the phone call to keep someone
> advised of his status.

I guess they are just really busy.

Phil said he also left his name and # and
> requested to be contacted if Conan's "time" runs out.

Both Katherine and Terri are kennel supervisors. I spoke with
Katherine. Phil, who did you speak with?

Iwould think,
> for a special circumstance, they would do that.

She seemed to think he will be fine and that his is in no danger
of being euthanized. Her attitude was, what's the big deal?
And when I mentioned that since I know they are a Kill shelter
I was concerned that he might be put down she said, "Did
Jessica tell you we are a "kill" shelter?" I said she did, because,
well, she did. Katherine did not seem to like that.
KellyH - 17 Jun 2005 00:45 GMT
> Yes, it's wonderful that he is still among the living.  I'm surprised
> that they are not willing to make the phone call to keep someone
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> LA who wants him.  I don't know, there kinda has to be a point person
> and it's easier if the point person is in proximity to the kitty.

I do hope someone local can adopt him, that would be much easier for Conan.
If not, I can get him into the shelter I'm with, but that is also a long
ways away.

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PawsForThought - 17 Jun 2005 01:02 GMT
> I do hope someone local can adopt him, that would be much easier for Conan.
> If not, I can get him into the shelter I'm with, but that is also a long
> ways away.

Is there any way to get him on Petfinders.org I wonder? This shelter
where he's at, I wonder if the do adoption fairs or anything.

Lauren
animzmirot - 17 Jun 2005 03:35 GMT
Kelly, check your email quickly if you can wrt conan.

> > Yes, it's wonderful that he is still among the living.  I'm surprised
> > that they are not willing to make the phone call to keep someone
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> --
> -Kelly
KellyH - 17 Jun 2005 00:42 GMT
>I just spoke with Katherine, the Kennel supervisor. She told me the same
> thing that Pam was told--he is recovering from his cold, and is in good
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
> You are all super. Conan does not have to die! Yippee!!

I feel much better about the shelter he's in after you all have talked to
them.  Isn't it amazing how the shelter was able to get him better but
Phillip wasn't?  I'm surprised they let him take a kitten after that.
Anyway, I'm proud of myself that I found the right shelter :)
I'll put something towards whatever Conan needs.  I'm sure he will get
adopted soon though.  He's so handsome.

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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 01:11 GMT
> I feel much better about the shelter he's in after you all have talked to
> them.  Isn't it amazing how the shelter was able to get him better but
> Phillip wasn't?

Pfft. Truly amazing. *eyeroll*

>I'm surprised they let him take a kitten after that.
> Anyway, I'm proud of myself that I found the right shelter :)

Yep, pat yourself on the back!

> I'll put something towards whatever Conan needs.  I'm sure he will get
> adopted soon though.  He's so handsome.

I want him terribly, but you sure are right about the long trip.
And my husband really does not want a third cat, though
I think I could bring him around.
Rhonda - 17 Jun 2005 03:27 GMT
Sometimes things are just meant to be... the fact that this one just
happened to be a big, beautiful orange boy. There's that one that grabs
our heartstrings and who are we to argue with fate?  :)

I hope it works out that you or someone else can take him.

You might want to have a fast plan in place. I fell for a 10 year old
sweetheart cat at our shelter a few years old, and I was just there to
look at birds. They assured me that he was not in danger, that everyone
there loved him. They said there would not be a problem keeping him
unless he got sick. I still had them "gold dot" him in case of he ran
out of time there. They took my name and number.

I got a call 2 weeks later. Bear had a URI, his second one there, and
they decided that was enough. I had about a day to make the decision to
spring him.

Maybe the supervisor you spoke with might informally keep your name,
even though they don't have that policy? Offer to send her cookies if
she keeps you in mind? (I can't tell you how many times the cookie offer
has helped me.)

Fingers crossed for Conan, and thanks Mary, for helping!

Rhonda

> I want him terribly, but you sure are right about the long trip.
> And my husband really does not want a third cat, though
> I think I could bring him around.
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:12 GMT
> Sometimes things are just meant to be... the fact that this one just
> happened to be a big, beautiful orange boy. There's that one that grabs
> our heartstrings and who are we to argue with fate?  :)

Oh, man! I could just see this now. I have never had a boy cat.
The girls would be thrown for a loop, but they are both pretty
easy going. I have the room that he could have his own territory
and come out when he wanted. This place is pretty "precious"
with breakables (not my fault, all inherited, all too sentimental
to get rid of plus I have to pass the crap on to nieces and
nephews) so a high jumper would be a challenge, but I could
deal with it. It would give me an excuse the store the things
that are not, as it happens, my taste anyway.

The only problem is my husband. But you can bet this: if
nobody takes him, I will get him out of there and into safe
hands one way or another.

> I hope it works out that you or someone else can take him.

Me too!!

> You might want to have a fast plan in place. I fell for a 10 year old
> sweetheart cat at our shelter a few years old, and I was just there to
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> she keeps you in mind? (I can't tell you how many times the cookie offer
> has helped me.)

Ooo, I like this. The Cookie Technique. I spoke with Katherine, maybe
I should have a friendly chat with the other kennel managers!

> Fingers crossed for Conan, and thanks Mary, for helping!

Thanks, Rhonda, but I did nothing.  I am grateful to Philip
for making it easy to find him,and to Pam and Phil and everyone
who offered to donate money if we had needed it to save him.
All that has really changed is that we know he is not on death row--
and that the shelter knows people across the country and the world
are interested in his fate. I think Phil is right, that this alone might buy
him more time. Also, they are human beings. They have to feel
sad that Philip gave this boy a home then yanked him out, sick
and feeling low, to dump him back in the shelter.
Catnipped - 17 Jun 2005 01:31 GMT
> I just spoke with Katherine, the Kennel supervisor. She told me the same
> thing that Pam was told--he is recovering from his cold, and is in good
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>
> You are all super. Conan does not have to die! Yippee!!

Just tell me where to send the money (we've done this on RPCA for lots of
things including flying a member to her sister who needed her, sending
flowers to a member in the hospital in the UK - on member has a PayPal
account that he uses).

Hugs,

CatNipped
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 01:51 GMT
> > We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot.
> > Maybe a few months of primo cat food?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> flowers to a member in the hospital in the UK - on member has a PayPal
> account that he uses).

Lori, I don't want to handle the money. Maybe Meghan would?
She seems like someone everyone would trust. Steve G., maybe?
Let's see, who else never fights with anyone here? :)
KellyH - 17 Jun 2005 01:58 GMT
> Lori, I don't want to handle the money. Maybe Meghan would?
> She seems like someone everyone would trust. Steve G., maybe?
> Let's see, who else never fights with anyone here? :)

It doesn't appear we need money *yet* for this.  I think we should see how
this adoption weekend goes, and if someone could check in on Monday, maybe
someone who has already spoken with them so they don't have too many
different people to deal with, then go from there.  If he is not adopted
soon, my gut tells me to get someone to spring him from the shelter and then
we can work on a forever home.

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Mary - 17 Jun 2005 02:09 GMT
> > Lori, I don't want to handle the money. Maybe Meghan would?
> > She seems like someone everyone would trust. Steve G., maybe?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> soon, my gut tells me to get someone to spring him from the shelter and then
> we can work on a forever home.

I think you're right. Sounds like a good plan. He is so beautiful someone
will likely snatch him right up.
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 02:41 GMT
>>>We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot.
>>>Maybe a few months of primo cat food?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> She seems like someone everyone would trust. Steve G., maybe?
> Let's see, who else never fights with anyone here? :)

Honestly, if i werent going to be in isolation starting Monday for a
week and possibly not online with you guys, I'd do it. It's just not
something I can take on right now.

pam,
who doesnt fight ;)
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 03:07 GMT
> >>>We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot.
> >>>Maybe a few months of primo cat food?
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> week and possibly not online with you guys, I'd do it. It's just not
> something I can take on right now.

I was going to suggest you but saw your earlier note re what
you will be busy with next week, chica.
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 03:11 GMT
>>>>>We could also take a collection and offer something to sweeten the pot.
>>>>>Maybe a few months of primo cat food?
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> I was going to suggest you but saw your earlier note re what
> you will be busy with next week, chica.

I have requested that DH hook me up with wireless at my parents house
which is where I'll be during isolation for about a week. (no hubby. no
cats. WAAHH!! I NEED INTERNET) Hopefully, i'll be online, but no
guarantees. I might feel like even bigger dog poop by then. I've been
trying to make light of it and jokes and stuff...on the phone was
explaining to a friend that my parents would practically be handing me
food under the door...and he was like...yeah...maybe a really, really
FLAT pizza. HAHHAHAHAH! I found it funny. Maybe you had to be there.
Diane - 17 Jun 2005 03:30 GMT
> I have requested that DH hook me up with wireless at my parents house
> which is where I'll be during isolation for about a week. (no hubby. no
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> food under the door...and he was like...yeah...maybe a really, really
> FLAT pizza. HAHHAHAHAH! I found it funny. Maybe you had to be there.

I hope you feel (and get) better soon.
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kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 03:32 GMT
>>I have requested that DH hook me up with wireless at my parents house
>>which is where I'll be during isolation for about a week. (no hubby. no
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>
> I hope you feel (and get) better soon.

Thanks. It has been a crazy couple of months for sure, but I'm gonna be
great! Jasper told me so! :)
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:14 GMT
> >>I have requested that DH hook me up with wireless at my parents house
> >>which is where I'll be during isolation for about a week. (no hubby. no
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> Thanks. It has been a crazy couple of months for sure, but I'm gonna be
> great! Jasper told me so! :)

I have a good feeling about it all. But you will feel weird and being
quarantined because you are radioactive is not going to help. I know
you have some phone buddies you can talk with. I am so glad you still
have your parents.
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 04:21 GMT
>I hope you feel (and get) better soon.
>>
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> you have some phone buddies you can talk with. I am so glad you still
> have your parents.

Im grateful, too. At their house, isolation will be much easier to
accomplish as Tim and I live in a condo that isnt nearly as big...so
much harder to keep the cats away from me. And you cant sleep in the
same bed with anyone for a week, either. So, it just made sense for me
to go to their house and hole up in my old bedroom which already has tv,
cable and phone. and a big bed. And good food prepared for me (flattened
and slid under the door of course!) I've been on this "low iodine" diet
in preparation and man...i havent had dairy in almost 2 weeks!!!!!! NO
CHOCOLATE, NO CHEESE, NO ICE CREAM! I told mom those would be some of my
first requests. :)
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:35 GMT
> >I hope you feel (and get) better soon.
> >>
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> to go to their house and hole up in my old bedroom which already has tv,
> cable and phone. and a big bed.

Aww, man! Your ROOM is still intact! That is really cute.

>And good food prepared for me (flattened
> and slid under the door of course!) I've been on this "low iodine" diet
> in preparation and man...i havent had dairy in almost 2 weeks!!!!!! NO
> CHOCOLATE, NO CHEESE, NO ICE CREAM! I told mom those would be some of my
> first requests. :)

There is nothing like Mama's when you are sick. I left home when I was very
young, but sometimes came home when I was sick enough to be afraid.
This is scary stuff, would be for anyone, and I think unusual in your age
group. But you know it will be okay. BTW, you have to start eating
lots of garlic. When cancer cells are placed in a petri dish with crushed
garlic, they shrivel up and die. I am not lying. It boosts your immune
system something fierce. John is not so fond of it, so sometimes I just
boil a handful of thin spaghetti and crush two or three fresh cloves
of garlic, sautee on medium lightly in olive oil, and toss with the drained
pasta, salt, pepper, and a bit of parm cheese. A few diced raw tomatoes
are FABULOUS in it too. It's a five-minite lunch.
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 04:41 GMT
> Aww, man! Your ROOM is still intact! That is really cute.

It's not quite as cute as it sounds, since I only actually lived in that
room for a few summers and a 2 year period. It's not my childhood home.
But it is an empty room, which is still referred to as "Pammy's room".
:)  Clearly, id much rather be at home with my husband and furkitties,
but I must protect them from my glow-rays.

> There is nothing like Mama's when you are sick. I left home when I was very
> young, but sometimes came home when I was sick enough to be afraid.
> This is scary stuff, would be for anyone, and I think unusual in your age
> group.

Thyroid cancer seems to be showing up more and more, and oddly in my age
group and even younger. There are some moms who post on my support group
board who have kids with it that are in their teens. It also seems MUCH
MUCH more prevalent in women than men. CHECK YOUR NECKS, PEOPLE!!! :)

> But you know it will be okay. BTW, you have to start eating
> lots of garlic. When cancer cells are placed in a petri dish with crushed
> garlic, they shrivel up and die. I am not lying.

Well, fortunately I have been eating LOTS of garlic over the past 2
weeks to help spice sh.t up. Man, those cancer cells are gonna be in for
a real treat come monday between the garlic and the RADIOACTIVE FUCKIN
IODINE!!!!!! Here little thyroid cell...come get it! iodine! yummy!
Then...BLIZZAM! DEAD!

Thyroids are over-rated anyway. ;)
Pam
Cheryl - 17 Jun 2005 03:37 GMT
>> I have requested that DH hook me up with wireless at my parents
>> house which is where I'll be during isolation for about a week.
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>
> I hope you feel (and get) better soon.

I hope so too! Pam, you're going through so much.

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kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 03:48 GMT
>>>I have requested that DH hook me up with wireless at my parents
>>>house which is where I'll be during isolation for about a week.
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>
:)
 I appreciate the good thoughts, folks. Hoomins can have it tuff too!
Craziness!
Catnipped - 17 Jun 2005 01:41 GMT
> I just spoke with Katherine, the Kennel supervisor. She told me the same
> thing that Pam was told--he is recovering from his cold, and is in good
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>
> You are all super. Conan does not have to die! Yippee!!

Oh, and I think a few people in rpca live in the LA area.  Want me to ask
there?

Hugs,

CatNipped
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 01:50 GMT
"Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote :

> Oh, and I think a few people in rpca live in the LA area.  Want me to ask
> there?

YES!! I posted a message to rec.pets.cats.rescue, too.
Catnipped - 17 Jun 2005 02:54 GMT
> "Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote :
>
> > Oh, and I think a few people in rpca live in the LA area.  Want me to ask
> > there?
>
> YES!! I posted a message to rec.pets.cats.rescue, too.

OK, one person already responded that she lives 40 miles north of LA and
couldn't adopt him but would be willing to keep him at her home, in
isolation from her cats (if he's still contagious), until we can get him to
his forever home.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 03:06 GMT
> > "Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote :
> >
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> isolation from her cats (if he's still contagious), until we can get him to
> his forever home.

It's a start!
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 03:07 GMT
>>>"Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote :
>>>
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>
> It's a start!

Wow! In six short hours, we've basically got a foster home for
him...with none of us living nearby! There is a reason to wade thru the
sh.t around these groups!
:)
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 03:20 GMT
> >>>"Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote :
> >>>
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> sh.t around these groups!
> :)

Thanks so much for your help with all of this today. Everyone pitched
in, and if we had had to raise money fast we had lots of people who
wanted to help. Great stuff. Last night I just knew he was a goner.

*Plop*
Had I known that dickweed had exaggerated his health problems
I would not have gotten so upset.

*Flush*

Some sh.t for you, as I hate to disappoint!
kitkatluna - 17 Jun 2005 03:24 GMT
>>>>>"Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote :
>>>>>
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>
> Some sh.t for you, as I hate to disappoint!

Now do we all get to sit around the fire and sing kumbaya?
;)
Mary - 17 Jun 2005 04:03 GMT
> >>>>>"Catnipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote :
> >>>>>
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> Now do we all get to sit around the fire and sing kumbaya?
> ;)

Well, I will tell you, Pam, I feel a lot better than last night.
I know lots of people do.
Rhonda - 17 Jun 2005 03:32 GMT
Yippee!

Rhonda

> OK, one person already responded that she lives 40 miles north of LA and
> couldn't adopt him but would be willing to keep him at her home, in
> isolation from her cats (if he's still contagious), until we can get him to
> his forever home.
 
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