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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / June 2005OT: Moratorium on psychos in this newsgroup
Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around helplessly, I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other barry a.shole. I just don't have the time to taunt you all. Unlike you, I have a job, and a real life, and I like cats. I'm expecting that googlers and newbies will have you sussed pretty quickly. Like the political discussions I've had in other newsgroups though, fighting with the unstable folks here is like wrestling a pig - you just get dirty and the pig likes it. Good luck in your pitiful lives. Luckily there's still some rational discussion about cats here. Thanks to all the sane posters here - I'll keep posting, though I may be strangely quiet when one of the aforementioned basket-cases launches their silly hallucinations toward me. BLink two happy cats - one happy cat elsewhere > Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around helplessly, > I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other barry a.shole. > > I just don't have the time to taunt you all. I've got only one point to make, Brian. You seem to have PLENTY of time to taunt people around here!!! Yes, you have made on-topic posts, too. But you are really no better than the rest after your ridiculous posts about how many times Mary has posted or what she has posted or whatever!!! I have no issue with what you did in regards to Henry, but IMO, you have lowered yourself right to the same level that you seem to dislike in others. Don't be a hypocrite! not a psycho, Pam > > Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around helplessly, > > I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other barry a.shole. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > lowered yourself right to the same level that you seem to dislike in > others. Don't be a hypocrite! Heh. Who is he kidding. He *lives* to read those posts. Why else would he START a new thread (OT-Phil) for the express purpose. Now he's wah wah-ing "killfile". Sorry, but that's a toss-up between hysterically funny and just plain pathetic. Sherry > > Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around helplessly, > > I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other barry a.shole. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I've got only one point to make, Brian. You seem to have PLENTY of time > to taunt people around here!!! This was the biggest dumbest post he's made since I've been here. I guess he's still sore at me from the flames I sent him a month ago. dang, talk about holding a grudge. All I said then was: "I'm beginning to wonder if this guy has lace on his underwear". That is aaalll I've ever said. I must have struck a nerve. >> Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around helplessly, >> I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other barry a.shole. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >not a psycho, >Pam yup, I agree. I fell into the trap of Usenet flamewars. I'm done though. BLink Brian Link <blink@visi.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around > helplessly, I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > BLink > two happy cats - one happy cat elsewhere LOL! Welcome to my world.  SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? > Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around helplessly, > I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other barry a.shole. I've joined you in killfiling Mary and Philip. >>Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around helplessly, >>I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other barry a.shole. > > I've joined you in killfiling Mary and Philip. why oh why do people feel the need to announce who is in their killfile? kitkatluna <kitkatluna@aol.com> wrote in news:ZX6se.4032$on5.3295 @newssvr19.news.prodigy.com: >>>Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around helplessly, >>>I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other barry a.shole. >> >> I've joined you in killfiling Mary and Philip. >> > why oh why do people feel the need to announce who is in their killfile? Because they're as disturbed and attention-whorish as the people they're killfiling. > kitkatluna <kitkatluna@aol.com> wrote in news:ZX6se.4032$on5.3295 > @newssvr19.news.prodigy.com: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Because they're as disturbed and attention-whorish as the people they're > killfiling. Hee! > >>Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around helplessly, > >>I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other barry a.shole. > > > > I've joined you in killfiling Mary and Philip. > > > why oh why do people feel the need to announce who is in their killfile? It's like men with the remote control who make the arm gesture like they have a magic wand or something. Gives them a feeling of power. My power is so great that I can just click on by the ones I don't want to read. :) kitkatluna <kitkatluna@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >>>Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around >>>helplessly, I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > why oh why do people feel the need to announce who is in their > killfile? I agree it's a bit ridiculous, but admit that I do announcements on occasion. Part of the reason is to alert others that a particular poster has been definitively identified as a non-contributor, or that their signal to noise ratio has reached the wrong end of the graph. Phil has been in my killfile for a long time. Mary is still on probation. People like Sherry are in simply for their hypocritical nature, as in her case charging cat owners for carpet cleaning in rental properties when she allegedly cleans the carpet between tenants regardless of pet companionship. To spell it out, she tri3es to pass herself off as a good landlord for allowing cats when she really makes them pay more than a non-pet owning tenannt. Stuff like that. It totally discredits any value added to the newsgroup. SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? Brandy Alexandre wrote: > kitkatluna <kitkatluna@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > them pay more than a non-pet owning tenannt. Stuff like that. It > totally discredits any value added to the newsgroup. Wow! The skeletons are coming out of the closets! LOL Philip <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > Brandy Alexandre wrote: >> kitkatluna <kitkatluna@aol.com> wrote in [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Wow! The skeletons are coming out of the closets! LOL Well, I'm not sure if that's exactly right. I don't remember and I'm not OCD about tracking people's posting habits and running to Google, but I do definitely recall she made cat owners pay for something she had to do between tenants anyway that non-pet owners were not asked to pay. So trying to pass herself off as a wonderful landlord for allowing cats while actually cheating cat owners. SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? Brandy Alexandre wrote: > Philip <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > something she had to do between tenants anyway that non-pet owners > were not asked to pay. Ummm... leaving a house/carpet in the same condition it was when you moved in. Gosh. I don't know where you were raised, but honestly, around here that's a normal thing. So trying to pass herself off as a wonderful > landlord for allowing cats while actually cheating cat owners. > > -- > Brandy Alexandre® I honestly don't know what you dredged this up again. Are you having a herpes outbreak this week, and just feel out of sorts? You should try to take up something constructive to get your mind off it. Are you still lobbying for free AIDS testing for video prostitutes like yourself? If not, maybe you should take up that cause again. It will occupy your mind. Or go back to your friends at alt.herpes.support. They understand. Sherry > Brandy Alexandre wrote: >> Philip <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > They understand. > Sherry Hahhahaha! (oops) Brandy Alexandre wrote: > Philip <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > were not asked to pay. So trying to pass herself off as a wonderful > landlord for allowing cats while actually cheating cat owners. Well. ... I am of the mind to charge an exiting tenant for general cleaning and most certainly if the place is a mess in the eyes and noses of the next tenant. I've seen some people's apartments that looked like nobody lived there for the time of their lease ... it was so tidy after they moved out. I've also seen people who turn any place they call home into a barn, break toilets, break brand new fixtures, store carcasses in the refrigerator, and themselves ... urinate on the carpet in a matter of months. So frankly, I don't care HOW a unit gets trashed .... just that while the tenant was there, it became a rat hole. CHARGE 'em for being pigs. > Brandy Alexandre wrote: > > Philip <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > don't care HOW a unit gets trashed .... just that while the tenant was > there, it became a rat hole. CHARGE 'em for being pigs. Brandy is so stupid she's forgotten what the original topic even was. It was pet deposits, and landlords who don't allow pets at all. My original point, long forgotten, was that people with pets are generally more responsible people over all than people without pets *or* children. Particularly those under the age of 30. That was just my observation. Point was, I never asked for a specific "pet deposit." I asked for the tenant to promise to clean the carpet when they left. An oral agreement, and I never got burned even once on pets. She took great offense at that -- funny thing I never had anyone even bat an eye. There are so many landlords who ask for a huge deposit, plus increased rent for pet owners, or require declaw, all which are perfectly legal. And abhorrent, IMO. As a side note, I got out of the rental business specifically because of what people allow their *children* to do. Sold one house and gave the other one to my son, and glad to be rid of them. Give me a housebroken dog or cat over an un-housebroken toddler any day. Sherry >> Well. ... I am of the mind to charge an exiting tenant for general >> cleaning and most certainly if the place is a mess in the eyes and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > generally more responsible people over all than people without pets > *or* children. Particularly those under the age of 30. This is absolutely the OPPOSITE of our experience with a triplex. Single moms were the messiest. Next, younger people with a pet always resulted in pet odors and stained carpets. Divorced middle aged men with good jobs trying to keep off their ex wife's radar were the best. When people rent ... there is no "pride in ownership." > That was just my > observation. Point was, I never asked for a specific "pet deposit." I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > increased rent for pet owners, or require declaw, all which are > perfectly legal. And abhorrent, IMO. What is a "huge deposit" to you? We required one month's rent as the cleaning deposit. Our units were going for $1,600 per when we sold the triplex a couple of years ago. This was a median average for 900 sq/ft. > As a side note, I got out of the rental business specifically because > of what people allow their *children* to do. Sold one house and gave > the other one to my son, and glad to be rid of them. Give me a > housebroken dog or cat over an un-housebroken toddler any day. > > Sherry Absolutely. It's not the toddler as much as its the parent(s) who are loath to parent. > What is a "huge deposit" to you? We required one month's rent as the > cleaning deposit. Our units were going for $1,600 per when we sold the > triplex a couple of years ago. This was a median average for 900 sq/ft. A huge deposit to me, is $600 per pet *in addition* to the regular cleaning deposit, which was usually the equivalent of 1 month's rent. That's the norm around here for a pet. Plus, rents are $25-$50 per month higher IF you have a pet. That isn't right, IMO. But then, I am a firm believer that pets belong in the house, with the family. Maybe I was just lucky. But I never, ever got burned with the verbal agreement for the tenant to clean the carpets. I don't know what Brandy's blathering about. I never "charged" pet owners a dime. I just expected them to leave the carpets in a urine-free, hair-free, flea-free condition more out of respect for the next tenants who might be sensitive to pet stuff than any other reason. Sherry >> What is a "huge deposit" to you? We required one month's rent as >> the cleaning deposit. Our units were going for $1,600 per when we [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Sherry Ok, now I have perspective ... and that does sound a little bit much. Philip <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >>> What is a "huge deposit" to you? We required one month's rent >>> as the cleaning deposit. Our units were going for $1,600 per [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Ok, now I have perspective ... and that does sound a little bit > much. She seems to miss the point. She is, or at least should be, cleaning the place between tenants anyway. She makes pet owners pay for carpet cleaning that is done without charge to non-pet owners. She's always tried to spin it differently since I called her on it. Soon I'll bet you can see a vile personal attack from her because she has no more argument. Back to the subject, that's why she's killfiled. She just doesn't have anything valuable or credible enough to say anymore to subject myself to her sudden psychotic outbursts. She needs to get together with Joe Canuck. Hopefully, she's been spayed. SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? Brandy Alexandre wrote: > Philip <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > subject myself to her sudden psychotic outbursts. She needs to get > together with Joe Canuck. Hopefully, she's been spayed. With all this kill filing going on, pretty soon the psychos will be talking only to each other while those not so tightly wrapped and possessing a sense of humor will be talking only to each other. Doesn't sound bad, does it! Philip <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > With all this kill filing going on, pretty soon the psychos will > be talking only to each other while those not so tightly wrapped > and possessing a sense of humor will be talking only to each > other. Doesn't sound bad, does it! LOL! Yeah, there could be some entertaining babble going on that I;m missing, but that's not what I'm in this group for. SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? > Philip <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > LOL! Yeah, there could be some entertaining babble going on that I;m > missing, but that's not what I'm in this group for. Neither was I when I first arrived. I wanted to learn about Bengals from owners of the breed. Look what happened !!! The upside to the whole experience here are these guidelines: 1) Always agree with the craziest loon in the thread. If you don't, you will have a bulls eye on your back. 2) Always couch your responses to the emotionally volatile as if she were a menopausal Islamic terrorist. Wooden stakes and silver bullets don't work here. They keep coming back. 3) Make liberal use of that kill file filter in your news reader! It's your best defense. 4) Resist responding to any personal remarks that typically pepper emotionally charged posts. When you quote text that has personal jabs in it, take license to edit out that verbiage as a matter of promoting good Forum Decorum. Philip <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > 4) Resist responding to any personal remarks that typically pepper > emotionally charged posts. When you quote text that has personal > jabs in it, take license to edit out that verbiage as a matter of > promoting good Forum Decorum. That's the one I wish more people would learn, that way I would never know ANYTHING that the loons are saying. It seems they often post directly to me as if I would be reading it in the off chance someone else will reply and I'll see it. How pathetic is that? SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? The normal deposit is not a "cleaning" deposit. Its a deposit that is only used if the person living there went beyond what is considered normal wear and tear on an apartment. Like ruining the carpet or breaking things. If the apartment is left clean the deposit should be returned to the renter.......the owner should expect to do some cleaning and perhaps painting after someone has lived in the apartment for awhile. Brad LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" > The normal deposit is not a "cleaning" deposit. Its a deposit that is > only used if the person living there went beyond what is considered [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Brad Absolutely. "Normal wear and tear," is just that, wear. It doesn't include stains, cigarette burns, filth-encrusted bathtubs and toilets, pet urine odor, cigarette smoke stench. When we were young and rented, I always left a rental as spotless as it was when I moved in, out of pride more than anything. I can't understand people who don't. Sherry >> The normal deposit is not a "cleaning" deposit. Its a deposit that is >> only used if the person living there went beyond what is considered [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Sherry I agree with you, Sherry. This kind of occupant vandalism occurs when the tenant "feeeeeeeeels" they are being charged a high rate (relative to their finances), or they want out of their contract, or there is drug abuse going on. The Entitlement Mentality is ALWAYS at the bottom of it. Philip <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> Well, I'm not sure if that's exactly right. I don't remember and >> I'm not OCD about tracking people's posting habits and running to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > don't care HOW a unit gets trashed .... just that while the tenant > was there, it became a rat hole. CHARGE 'em for being pigs. There is a standard call normal wear and tear and you cannot charge tenants for it--in California, at least. I can tell you that when I moved out of my apartment of twelve years is still looked in great condition. They might have even been able to keep the carpet, and they only had to paint because I never had the Northridge earthquake repairs done. Those cracks were fun conversation pieces. The issue isn't how one should leave an apartment, as I'm sure some people have zero respect for the property of others. What stood out in her comments was that she asked cat owners to pay and not anyone else. Yes, you do have to do some cleaning between tenants. Always. And charging someone who had a cat who probably left it better than someone without a cat who left more of a mess... it's just not right. She exposed herself as a scammer while trying to sound all wonderful by allowing cats in the rental. SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? Brandy Alexandre wrote: > Philip <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > just not right. She exposed herself as a scammer while trying to > sound all wonderful by allowing cats in the rental. I didnt read all the original posts and what not, but it sounds that perhaps you misunderstood? Is that possible, Brandy? Pam kitkatluna <kitkatluna@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > I didnt read all the original posts and what not, but it sounds that > perhaps you misunderstood? Is that possible, Brandy? > > Pam Nope. She cleans in between no matter what, cat owners pay, others don't, and she thinks she's just so terrific because she allows them at all. SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? Brandy Alexandre wrote: > kitkatluna <kitkatluna@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -- > Brandy Alexandre® Good Lord, woman. Do you have syphillis on the brain or what? Cat owners don't pay *anything*. Sheesh. I've read your posts on the legal forum, about the business you've made out of suing landlords--clearly you have some kind of vendetta. Sherry Brandy Alexandre wrote: > Philip <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > There is a standard call normal wear and tear and you cannot charge > tenants for it--in California, at least. Normal wear and tear is not in question but ... is subjective. > I can tell you that when I > moved out of my apartment of twelve years is still looked in great > condition. They might have even been able to keep the carpet, and > they only had to paint because I never had the Northridge earthquake > repairs done. Those cracks were fun conversation pieces. Ah yes. > The issue isn't how one should leave an apartment, as I'm sure some > people have zero respect for the property of others. What stood out [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > just not right. She exposed herself as a scammer while trying to > sound all wonderful by allowing cats in the rental. That's your view as a renter. AS a landlord (and thankfully NOT in a rent controlled city), the unit's condition was carefully documented (good photos of everything) the morning of move-in. Same occurred on move-out. Whatever it took to return it to the "move-in" condition is what the cleaning deposit covered. Three times in particular, it took MORE than the deposit to replace all the deliberately vandalized fixtures and carpeting! Children followed by pets were the most costly to address. Brandy Alexandre wrote: > The issue isn't how one should leave an apartment, as I'm sure some > people have zero respect for the property of others. What stood out [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > just not right. She exposed herself as a scammer while trying to > sound all wonderful by allowing cats in the rental. Don't pay these females no mind. You must have better assets than them otherwise; why would they razz you about it. Are all women treacherous like that? Or just toward someone with better assets? A foolish woman tears down her own plans. (I'm not talking about you) Brandy Alexandre wrote: > kitkatluna <kitkatluna@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > -- > Brandy Alexandre® Oh, lookie. The washed-up porn wannabe who routinely sues landlords to supplement her income now that she's past the mandatory retirement age for pornography. If you're going to tell something, tell it right. What I said was, I *never* ask for an extra deposit for pet owners. I ask them to agree to clean the carpets when they move. You took great offense at that, I recall. Obviously you don't believe in leaving a place clean when you move out. Sherry Brandy Alexandre wrote: > kitkatluna <kitkatluna@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > -- > Brandy Alexandre® >Oh, lookie. The washed-up porn wannabe who routinely sues landlords to supplement her income now that she's past the mandatory retirement age for pornography. If you're going to tell something, tell it right. What I said was, I *never* ask for an extra deposit for pet owners. I ask them to agree to clean the carpets when they move. You took great offense at that, I recall. Obviously you don't believe in leaving a place clean when you move out. >Sherry An apartment she moved out of??? I'd call HazMat to sterilize the place! Phil > Brandy Alexandre wrote: > > kitkatluna <kitkatluna@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Phil Oh, no, not me. Kami would be welcome, of course, but she would have to put up a deposit if Brandy was going to live there too, which would be far more than the average cat (or human) could afford. Haz-Mat is quite expensive, I would guess. Sherry > kitkatluna <kitkatluna@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I agree it's a bit ridiculous, but admit that I do announcements on > occasion. Silly a.shole. Like you really needed to announce *this* too. lol > > > why oh why do people feel the need to announce who is in their > > > killfile? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Silly a.shole. Like you really needed to announce *this* too. lol Oh, my favorite announcement of Karleen's is when she announced if she had the chance to chop off Kami's toes all over again, she'd do it. Sherry > > > > why oh why do people feel the need to announce who is in their > > > > killfile? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sherry a.s licker Mary <marys@catlovernospam.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> kitkatluna <kitkatluna@aol.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Silly a.shole. Like you really needed to announce *this* too. lol Hmmm, probation over... SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? (...) > why oh why do people feel the need to announce who is in their killfile? That's a stupid comment. In the killfile you go. In fact, I have now added everyone, even myself. Yeah! I'm now going to add all the bloody Norwegians, everywhere, with their stupid fishy meals, they deserve it. And those sodding cats, they never stay on topic, and the hair can actually get into the Interweb lines and cause allergic reactions when reading their posts. And I've now switched my monitor off. ANf noew im buryong it. Its hatd to tupe woith no monitre thoughg. Ha haaaaar! That showed you all, eh? S. > (...) > > why oh why do people feel the need to announce who is in their killfile? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > S. Twit. funny twit, but still a twit. :) (...) > Twit. funny twit, but still a twit. :) I didn't see that because I have you killfield[1]. Steve. [1] My file is so big, it became a field. >>>Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around helplessly, >>>I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other barry a.shole. >> >> I've joined you in killfiling Mary and Philip. >> >why oh why do people feel the need to announce who is in their killfile? I appreciate those types of messages when I start reading a new newsgroup. Helps me quickly figure out who the main combatants are, and give them their grain of salt. BLink > >>>Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around helplessly, > >>>I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other barry a.shole. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > BLink I'm sure you do, Pussyboy. lol > > Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around helplessly, > > I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other barry a.shole. > > I've joined you in killfiling Mary and Philip. And in becoming the kind of a.shole who feels the need to announce it whenever you use your killfile. Heh. > Well, as enjoyable as it is to see you all thrash around helplessly, > I've decided to killfile Mary, Phil P. and that other barry a.shole. Funny, I thought you were going to announce that you were leaving. |
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