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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / June 2005Water pistola!
Hi again, We use a water pistol to discipline Yoshi and Kimber when they're doing something we'd rather they didn't do. Like: biting and scratching at their bed, biting one of the table lights, scratching at the wall or carpets or furniture etc etc etc. I hate doing it to be honest, but they need it some times, and I always give them five minutes after I've squirted them and shouted "NO!" at them and give them some love and fuss. It has the desired effect on Yoshi, who seems more developed than Kimber and shouting "NO!" alone if he goes back at a later date makes him stop, but Kimber just doesn't seem to get it so well! I am wondering what might be too much water pistola discipline? I generally have to squirt them twice to four times each day. I don't want to get to the point where I'm squirting them all the while, or they're just not taking any notice!? J http://www.flickr.com/photos/derien/sets/416301/ > I am wondering what might be too much water pistola discipline? I generally > have to squirt them twice to four times each day. I don't want to get to the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/derien/sets/416301/ This is just my thinking, but there are somethings that you will have to be tolerated in the begining. If it was me, I would detest a water pistol shot at me. I know that many people use this method. I have used a coffe can, with pennies in it. Along with a clear calm no. Then physically remove the cat from the un-desired activity. I think you will find this very effective. >> I am wondering what might be too much water pistola discipline? I >> generally [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I think you will find this very effective. But when all else fails, "kick their a.s!" LOL > Hi again, > > We use a water pistol to discipline Yoshi and Kimber when they're doing > something we'd rather they didn't do. Like: biting and scratching at their > bed, biting one of the table lights, scratching at the wall or carpets or > furniture etc etc etc. Sounds like your cats are bored and need their energies channeled into acceptable objects of their own and which they'll like better than yours. Get them a few different scratching posts and trees covered with different materials. These will provide your cats different challenges and keep them from getting bored. http://www.maxshouse.com/understanding_scratching.htm http://www.maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment.htm Phil > Hi again, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/derien/sets/416301/ I found that redirecting their attention works better.They are like kids and if you give them something they CAN do, they are much more likely to learn which things are OK and which aren't. >> Hi again, >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > if you give them something they CAN do, they are much more likely to learn > which things are OK and which aren't. This must be a spur of the moment example. What sorts of things do you model to redirect their attention? >>> Hi again, >>> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > This must be a spur of the moment example. What sorts of things do you > model to redirect their attention? IF they are scratching at something they shouldn't be, move them to something they CAN and play with them with a wand toy by it. If they are playing with something they shouldn't be, remove that and give them an appropriate toy. Troll > Path: newssvr31.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm02.news.prodigy.com!newsdst01.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!news.glorb.com!atl-c03.usenetserver.com!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!1c4c7375!not-for-mail > Reply-To: "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > But when all else fails, "kick their a.s!" LOL >>>> I am wondering what might be too much water pistola discipline? I >>>> generally [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Troll Bedwetter. > Hi again, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/derien/sets/416301/ have one question though....why can't they bite and scratch at their bed? I mean, that's kind of what cat furniture is for....letting them be cats. > have one question though....why can't they bite and scratch at their bed? > I > mean, that's kind of what cat furniture is for....letting them be cats. V True, thanks for your response. J > Hi again, > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > J All you need is the "No" and maybe a time-out. Ditch the water pistol. > Hi again, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/derien/sets/416301/ They will soon associate, if they haven't already, that the squirting water *only* happens when their staff is around... so when you are gone hell will be out for recess. :) Used responsibly, packaging tape placed upside down is probably a better deterrent in many situations. ... it is effective and leaves a lasting impression ... things do not get wet ... the cat does not associate you with the correction... you can even play the good guy by removing the tape ... it is a hands-free solution Good luck. > Hi again, > > We use a water pistol to discipline Yoshi and Kimber when > they're doing something we'd rather they didn't do. Like: biting > and scratching at their bed, biting one of the table lights, > scratching at the wall or carpets or furniture etc etc etc. ... > I am wondering what might be too much water pistola discipline? > I generally have to squirt them twice to four times each day. I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/derien/sets/416301/ > We use a water pistol to discipline > Yoshi and Kimber when they're doing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > scratching at the wall or carpets or > furniture etc etc etc. It sounds as though you having not provided them with anything *of their own* that they can scratch. Please be specific about what items they have to scratch, size, location, etc. and be specific about what happens when they bite the bed and the table light. > I hate doing it to be honest, but they > need it some times, and I always give > them five minutes after I've squirted > them and shouted "NO!" at them and give > them some love and fuss. No cat "needs" to be squirted, especially when it is so obviously ineffective. By doing this you are just confusing them and sending mixed messages. > It has the desired effect on Yoshi, who > seems more developed than Kimber and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > point where I'm squirting them all the > while You have reached that point. I have to question why you continue to do this to them when it so obviously ineffective? The bottom line is that water pistols don't work and only serve to teach your cat to fear *you* and to wait until you're not around to do things you don't want them to do. The behavior you descibe is very typical of bored cats that have no appropriate scratching outlets, so I'll reiterate here that you need to describe what they do have so recommendations can be made as to what you can provide for them that will make them happy and be able to live in a home where they aren't yelled at and squirted all the time. Megan  Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > Hi again, > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > J Though a loud "no" and then squirting the postola worked when it came to disciplining my cat, this did not work for my brothers. What worked for his was the shaking of pennies in a tin can, after the loud "no." > Hi again, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > shouting "NO!" alone if he goes back at a later date makes him stop, but > Kimber just doesn't seem to get it so well! > I am wondering what might be too much water pistola discipline? I generally > have to squirt them twice to four times each day. I don't want to get to the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/derien/sets/416301/ My cats used to take great delight in pulling themselves along the bottom of the chairs, clawing into the fabric! I didnt really care about the chairs I got more fun out of watching them, with that devil look in the their eyes as they knew they were doing wrong. If I ever told Dillon off, he did it all the more, so I just gritted my teeth and turned away and eventually he would stop. I guess I just spoilt them. |
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