Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / June 2005
Looky What I've Got
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sriddles@aol.com - 11 Jun 2005 05:54 GMT Take a look at this little urchin. I got her a couple of days ago, to foster till she's old enough for adoption. Long story short, some idiot brought her in to the shelter and said "We have this kitten. We have to get rid of her. My wife is allergic." Then some bogus story about how they "found" her. No telling what the truth really was. It's amazing to me how the cats reacted. They are not only taking this one in stride, but Frank just loves her. Bosley is the only one that has his nose out of a joint a little bit.
http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenbottle.jpg
Sherry
Mary - 11 Jun 2005 06:10 GMT > Take a look at this little urchin. I got her a couple of days ago, to > foster till she's old enough for adoption. Long story short, some idiot [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenbottle.jpg Ohhhh, Sherry. She is so beautiful.
Mary - 11 Jun 2005 06:11 GMT > http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenbottle.jpg Do you think she is part Persian? She has an unusual look, to me.
sriddles@aol.com - 11 Jun 2005 06:21 GMT > > http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenbottle.jpg > > Do you think she is part Persian? She has an unusual look, to me. I think maybe a Himmie mix. Or Siamese mix, and just too young to have her mask yet. I remember Frank didn't have a mask when we first got him. But she *is* odd-looking. The weirdest thing is, she has a really short tail, and the hair on it is curly. Here's another pic of her & Frank, you can see the coat color better. He just loves her. http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenfrank.jpg
Sherry
Katrina - 11 Jun 2005 18:24 GMT >>> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenbottle.jpg >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sherry She looks like my Buttercup when I got her... BC was about 4-5 weeks old (a feral mom who was looking like she was going to move the litter so the rescuers snagged the kits). We had her for about 2 days when our older meezer Ming adopted her. BC was just starting to show her mask at about 5 weeks, and Ming was about 1 and a half years old. Your baby is going to be beautiful when she grows up.
Katrina
Mary - 11 Jun 2005 18:30 GMT > > > http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenbottle.jpg > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Frank, you can see the coat color better. He just loves her. > http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenfrank.jpg OMG!!!! How precious is that? Her tail really is short. I have this feeling she is going to be a real beauty--not hard to figure out since she already is! Frank is so handsome. He is clearly smitten. How many cats do you have now? ;)
Phil P. - 12 Jun 2005 03:13 GMT > > > http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenbottle.jpg > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Frank, you can see the coat color better. He just loves her. > http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenfrank.jpg "Foster till she's old enough for adoption", eh? LOL! ;-) It looks like Frank has other plans. Looks the beginning of a beautiful, life-long friendship.
What does the Yo-Man have to say about this?
Phil
Innovo - 12 Jun 2005 04:18 GMT >> I think maybe a Himmie mix. Or Siamese mix, and just too young to have > her mask yet. I remember Frank didn't have a mask when we first got > him. But she *is* odd-looking. The weirdest thing is, she has a really > short tail, and the hair on it is curly. Here's another pic of her & > Frank, you can see the coat color better. He just loves her. http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenfrank.jpg
> Sherry ***What an adorable photo, Sherry! It's soo cute of the two of them! Frank is gorgous and she (her back side :-) is very pretty from the side I could see. That's so great that they get along and that Frank loves her. What cuties!
ML
chrisoakey@msn.com - 13 Jun 2005 18:49 GMT > > > http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenbottle.jpg > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sherry What a sweetie! Our Tobes had a very short ratty tail when he was very young, my husband used to laugh at him and say he was like two separate halves as the front was all fat and fluffy, then it was like he was cut off! Needless to say, it grew into a very fine specimen of a tail, dark brown and very fluffy.
Candace - 11 Jun 2005 07:24 GMT > Take a look at this little urchin. I got her a couple of days ago, to > foster till she's old enough for adoption. Too darling (Frank, too, of course).
Candace
Rhonda - 11 Jun 2005 10:27 GMT What a great picture! Love how enthusiastic little urchin is for that milk.
She's going to be a cutie.
Rhonda
> Take a look at this little urchin. I got her a couple of days ago, to > foster till she's old enough for adoption. Long story short, some idiot [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sherry KellyH - 11 Jun 2005 11:28 GMT > Take a look at this little urchin. I got her a couple of days ago, to > foster till she's old enough for adoption. Long story short, some idiot [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sherry Awww... what a sweetie! How could anyone dump her?
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Karen - 11 Jun 2005 14:36 GMT > Take a look at this little urchin. I got her a couple of days ago, to > foster till she's old enough for adoption. Long story short, some idiot [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sherry You HAVE to show them the ones with Frank!! It's sooooooooooooo adorable!!!! I've been thinking about this kitten ever since you sent those pics. OOoooooo. Gonna be one GORgeous cat.
Karen - 11 Jun 2005 14:38 GMT >> Take a look at this little urchin. I got her a couple of days ago, to >> foster till she's old enough for adoption. Long story short, some idiot [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I've been thinking about this kitten ever since you sent those pics. > OOoooooo. Gonna be one GORgeous cat. Oops, I meant the one where she is walking off with him. It looks like "I"m going with my Big Brother!"
Jen M. - 11 Jun 2005 18:05 GMT Do you feel that you will keep her? Feels like she would be a good addition to the family.
Have Fun, Jen
>>> Take a look at this little urchin. I got her a couple of days ago, to >>> foster till she's old enough for adoption. Long story short, some idiot [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Oops, I meant the one where she is walking off with him. It looks like "I"m >going with my Big Brother!" sriddles@aol.com - 11 Jun 2005 18:52 GMT > Do you feel that you will keep her? Feels like she would be a good > addition to the family. > > Have Fun, > Jen Oh, no, I can't. I have 5 cats already. But that's the fun part of fostering--you get to cuddle and play with a baby kitten with none of the responsibility. (in theory that is).
Sherry
sriddles@aol.com - 11 Jun 2005 18:50 GMT > > You HAVE to show them the ones with Frank!! It's sooooooooooooo adorable!!!! > > I've been thinking about this kitten ever since you sent those pics. > > OOoooooo. Gonna be one GORgeous cat. > > > Oops, I meant the one where she is walking off with him. It looks like "I"m > going with my Big Brother!" http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenfrank2.jpg
It's kind of funny and kind of sad. Frank wants to mother it so bad. And the kitten just clamors to get over to him. But I don't feel like I can really expose him to her for fear of disease. Don't know anything about the kitten. I wish I could. She isn't even going to know she is a cat, or how to use a litterbox with no mama to teach her.
Sherry
KellyH - 12 Jun 2005 01:11 GMT > http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenfrank2.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Sherry That is the cutest picture!! Can you have the little baby tested? You'll have to be her mama for now. I always wonder where the littermates are when people bring in a solitary kitten.
-Kelly
sriddles@aol.com - 12 Jun 2005 16:34 GMT > > http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenfrank2.jpg > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -Kelly I do too. I asked, but the whole story sounded so bogus I think it was a big lie. He said he "found" a litter in "shed in an alley." I asked him, what about the rest of them? He said, "Oh, I didn't go back and check on them." I'm sure you already know how people will stand across that counter and tell you the biggest lies and think you're stupid enough to believe them. I kind of suspect he has the mama, and this is the last surviving kitten. Just my theory.
Sherry
KellyH - 12 Jun 2005 20:27 GMT > I do too. I asked, but the whole story sounded so bogus I think it was > a big lie. He said he "found" a litter in "shed in an alley." I asked [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > enough to believe them. I kind of suspect he has the mama, and this is > the last surviving kitten. Just my theory. Yeah, either that or she was a free kitten some shithead was giving away and now he realized he doesn't want to deal with it. I wish people would be honest. We could actually help them if they were. Like if he does have the momma, you could direct him to spay/neuter resources so this process doesn't repeat itself.
I always suspect that a good number of the strays we take in are actually owned. I think word has gotten out that we take strays right away, or people are too chicken to admit they are dumping their cat.
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Brandy Alexandre - 12 Jun 2005 19:23 GMT KellyH <kelly at farringtons dot net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
>> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenfrank2.jpg >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -Kelly I suspect he snatched a kitten from some litter and then figured out it was either too young to be on its own, felt guilty, or changed his mind. At least he's not like the kid in Nevada who did the same thing, but tossed it out the window of his car instead.
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Phil P. - 12 Jun 2005 03:30 GMT > > > You HAVE to show them the ones with Frank!! It's sooooooooooooo adorable!!!! > > > I've been thinking about this kitten ever since you sent those pics. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > can really expose him to her for fear of disease. Don't know anything > about the kitten. Just get her stool checked for parasites. She's been checked for FELV/FIV, right? No symptoms of URI? Not much else to worry about.
> I wish I could. She isn't even going to know she is a cat, or how to > use a litterbox with no mama to teach her. Not only that, this is the critical socialization period when she'll learn to get along with other cats. Frank looks like an eminently qualified professor of felininity!
I'm betting you'll keep her!
Phil
Mary - 12 Jun 2005 03:41 GMT > > > > You HAVE to show them the ones with Frank!! It's sooooooooooooo > adorable!!!! [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > I'm betting you'll keep her! She is so gorgeous. I want her!
sriddles@aol.com - 12 Jun 2005 13:30 GMT > > > > You HAVE to show them the ones with Frank!! It's sooooooooooooo > adorable!!!! [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Just get her stool checked for parasites. She's been checked for FELV/FIV, > right? No symptoms of URI? Not much else to worry about. It's FIP I am worried about. It's transmitted from mother-to-kitten, right? It just seems so prevalent here. And I've wondered about this, because I read it's a rather rare mutation in itself. Either it's unusually widespread in *this area* more so than average, or the shelter vets are using it a as a catch-all diagnosis when they really don't know. I just don't know what to think. Kitten is FeLV/FIV neg. If herpes was an issue, there would probably be URI symptoms or gunky eyes, right?
Re: The other post--are you kidding--Yoda hardly raises head and gives her a passing glance. He's an old man and has seen too many of them come and go :o)
Sherry
Phil P. - 12 Jun 2005 23:39 GMT > > > > > You HAVE to show them the ones with Frank!! It's sooooooooooooo > > adorable!!!! [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > It's FIP I am worried about. It's transmitted from mother-to-kitten, > right? Nooooooooooooo. There has never been a single documented case of vertical transmission (mother-to-kitten) of FIP. Ever. FIP can't be passed vertically because the mutated virus in an FIP cat is present only in the lesions within the body of the infected cat and not in systemic circulation. Each FIP virus arises from a spontaneous mutation of a feline enteric coronavirus within an indivudual cat. This is why no two cases of FIP are caused by the same virus. Horizontal transmission (cat-to-cat) is very, very rare and is the exception rather than the rule. Any cats exposed to a cat with FIP have the same low risk of developing FIP as any cat infected with a feline enteric coronavirus. (That's my standard statement concerning the contagiousness of FIP)
> It just seems so prevalent here. And I've wondered about this, because > I read it's a rather rare mutation in itself. Either it's unusually > widespread in *this area* more so than average, or the shelter vets are > using it a as a catch-all diagnosis when they really don't know. It sure is. An FIP diagnosis is like baggy clothes- it covers a multitude of mistakes! If the cat dies, the vet can't be held accountable; if the cat survives, the vet looks a hero.
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> just don't know what to think. Kitten is FeLV/FIV neg. If herpes was an > issue, there would probably be URI symptoms or gunky eyes, right? Yup. A kitten would show symptoms. Older cats can be asymptomatic carriers. If Yoda or Frank ever had FVR or FCV, I'd be more worried about the kitten becoming infected than the kitten infecting Yoda or Frank.
> Re: The other post--are you kidding--Yoda hardly raises head and gives > her a passing glance. He's an old man and has seen too many of them > come and go :o) When I have rehabs in my clinic, Jazz gives me the cold shoulder- like I cheated on her! LOL! Jade wants to make friends with everybody, and Titi walks around with her tail down for the first few days. The others just lie by the door, hoping to get a glimpse. LOL!
Phil
> Sherry bigbadbarry - 11 Jun 2005 18:36 GMT > Take a look at this little urchin. I got her a couple of days ago, to > foster till she's old enough for adoption. Long story short, some idiot > brought her in to the shelter and said "We have this kitten. We have to > get rid of her. My wife is allergic." Then some bogus story about how > they "found" her. No telling what the truth really was.
> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/kittenbottle.jpg > > Sherry poor cat, please don't hurt it Sherry. I know how you like to squeeze
Mary - 11 Jun 2005 18:56 GMT > > Take a look at this little urchin. I got her a couple of days ago, to > > foster till she's old enough for adoption. Long story short, some idiot [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > poor cat, please don't hurt it Sherry. I know how you like to squeeze So you were thinking that being an even bigger a.shole might somehow help you save face? Idiot.
bigbadbarry - 11 Jun 2005 19:12 GMT > So you were thinking that being an even bigger a.shole might somehow help > you save face? Idiot. Turn down the music Take down the signs If looks could kill This mirror would do HCJ
Jen M. - 11 Jun 2005 19:16 GMT Oh, and the dance continues!
Sherry--awww much love to you and your feline family. Yep, would be sweet for Frank to mother her--can you ask your vet about this?
Have Fun, Jen
>> > Take a look at this little urchin. I got her a couple of days ago, to >> > foster till she's old enough for adoption. Long story short, some idiot [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >So you were thinking that being an even bigger a.shole might somehow help >you save face? Idiot. Cheryl - 12 Jun 2005 01:15 GMT On Sat 11 Jun 2005 12:54:01a, wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:1118465641.777520.111260@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com):
> Take a look at this little urchin. I got her a couple of days > ago, to foster till she's old enough for adoption. Long story [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Sherry Yay! Glad to see her picture! I'm so glad you were there, and the moron who dumped her gets a year supply of litter clumps from my 4. She's precious.
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