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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / June 2005Wellness is back
Last week I was able to buy two cases of Wellness 5.5 oz chicken flavor. I found out that my cats do like Iams chicken but I would rather they eat the Wellness. ---MIKE--- >>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') > Last week I was able to buy two cases of Wellness 5.5 oz chicken > flavor. I found out that my cats do like Iams chicken but I > would rather they eat the Wellness. > > ---MIKE--- Glad you found it, Mike. I didn't have any problem finding the turkey canned flavor here. Maybe it was a regional problem. Also, I'm glad you found a backup food in case this happens again.  SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > Last week I was able to buy two cases of Wellness 5.5 oz chicken flavor. > I found out that my cats do like Iams chicken but I would rather they > eat the Wellness. Although I do not feed Wellness, this little episode of theirs has given me reason enough to never trust them. >> Last week I was able to buy two cases of Wellness 5.5 oz chicken flavor. >> I found out that my cats do like Iams chicken but I would rather they >> eat the Wellness. > >Although I do not feed Wellness, this little episode of theirs has given >me reason enough to never trust them. On this point I agree with Joe. Also, their processing plants are located in Canada, rather than a first-rate country with decent manufacturing ethics like the US. eq >>>Last week I was able to buy two cases of Wellness 5.5 oz chicken flavor. >>>I found out that my cats do like Iams chicken but I would rather they [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > eq Trolling again. >>>>Last week I was able to buy two cases of Wellness 5.5 oz chicken flavor. >>>>I found out that my cats do like Iams chicken but I would rather they [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Trolling again. Joe's definition of trolling -- anyone who disagrees with him and reduces his arguments to ashes...... Truth hurts again ;-) eq >>>>>Last week I was able to buy two cases of Wellness 5.5 oz chicken flavor. >>>>>I found out that my cats do like Iams chicken but I would rather they [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Joe's definition of trolling -- anyone who disagrees with him and > reduces his arguments to ashes...... ??? Yet "equalizer" agreed with me. <insert laugh track here> > Truth hurts again ;-) > > eq >Last week I was able to buy two cases of Wellness 5.5 oz chicken flavor. >I found out that my cats do like Iams chicken but I would rather they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire > >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') I brought home some of the Wellness 5.5 oz. chicken yesterday. There's a film of oil on top of it, and the consistency is different. I don't trust the Canadian processing plants that 're making this stuff, look what they did to us last year with Mad Cow Disease -- after this bunch is gone, it's back to Hill's until I find another alternative. eq > I brought home some of the Wellness 5.5 oz. chicken yesterday. > There's a film of oil on top of it, and the consistency is > different. I don't trust the Canadian processing plants that 're > making this stuff, look what they did to us last year with Mad > Cow Disease -- after this bunch is gone, it's back to Hill's > until I find another alternative. I posted that I didn't have a problem finding Wellness canned turkey, but I noticed the same thing you did. Plus, I'm having a hard time getting Bonnie to eat it. It *was* the only canned she'd eat. Back to square one. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields >> I brought home some of the Wellness 5.5 oz. chicken yesterday. >> There's a film of oil on top of it, and the consistency is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >getting Bonnie to eat it. It *was* the only canned she'd eat. Back to >square one. Mine were very reluctant to touch it as well. Tonite was the first time I've been able to get the three of them to finish a can (Ivan has been discovered to be intolerant of canned food, and gets dry exclusively now). The stuff was fine when it was made in the USA. Another bunch of filthy little corporate management types f.ck everything up by selling out a good company to line their pockets, and outsource production to an inferior country, to increase their personal margin, with predictable results. At least Hill's is manufactured here. eq >and outsource production to an >inferior country, Yeah and f.ck you too. -mhd >>and outsource production to an >>inferior country, > > Yeah and f.ck you too. > > -mhd Shall we give him a list of superior quality items that originate from Canada? Lets see, we can start with... CanadaArm on the Space Shuttle. The shuttle itself is crap (made in US), but the CanadaArm works as advertised. "Inferior country"... LOL. Sounds like a redneck American I heard at a truck stop just outside Dallas one time. Of course, this was the same fellow that didn't know how to operate the shower inside the truck stop building. Oh yes, our water... We ship our water down to Texas by the truckload full from the Aberfoyle plant south of Toronto. They seem to drink it as fast as we can ship it down there... and what do we haul back to Canada? Empty, yes empty, beer kegs for the Labatts plant in Toronto... they drank all that too! Must be better than that swamp water they call beer down there. LOL Usenet <--- great source of entertainment and cause of sore sides...haha! >>>and outsource production to an >>>inferior country, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >Usenet <--- great source of entertainment and cause of sore sides...haha! Hey, sorry Joe! Just trying to get to the root of the problem. Wellness was fine, then their corporate buffoons sold out, and the production was moved to Canada. Now the stuff sucks. What other conclusion is there? Even Phil P and Steve Crane said that Canada's food production standards were sub-standard. Hell, it proves your point about Wellness being bad and Hill's (American made) being good. What else do you want?? eq >>>>and outsource production to an >>>>inferior country, [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > eq Perhaps a more diplomatic and factual approach on your part would be a start. The assertion that Canada's food production standards may be substandard needs to be solidly backed up with facts and figures prior to use that notion as a supporting argument. My beef with "Old Mother Hubbard" is that the line of supply to the consumer was interrupted which caused many to seek alternatives. As well all know, cats can be fussy regarding their food... not to mention that their digestive systems don't respond well to sudden changes. The new standards by which "Wellness" was produced was dictated by "Old Mother Hubbard", perhaps in an effort to reduce costs... that is the usual reason as is the reason for outsourcing. Many company eventually discover outsourcing is more problematic than it is worth... particulary when their customers start leaving. (...) > The assertion that Canada's food production standards may be substandard > needs to be solidly backed up with facts and figures prior to use that > notion as a supporting argument. Hell yes, the Canadian Wellness is rubbish. The last can I bought was just full of f.cking hockey pucks. Steve. > (...) >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Steve. I bought two cans of Wellness. Was going to try them on my cat but ... after all this hysteria about separating oils and quality well ... maybe I better toss the stuff in the mother-in-law's casserole? These claims are just BS. The newer cans probably contain a little more water which comes to the top. It still smells good and my cats like it. Why don't you stop bad mouthing a good product. ---MIKE--- >>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') > What other conclusion is there? >Even Phil P and Steve Crane said that Canada's food production standards >were sub-standard No I don't think they said quite that, and in fact Phil acknowledged a while back the chicken he was evaluating was made in Canada and it was just fine. It seems the problem is the latest batch after a mysterious lack of cans on the shelves, which indicates a change of manufacturing suppliers perhaps. Phil did say that his biggest fear was the manufacturing of Wellness may revert to cost formulation if OMH chose to go that route. This has nothing to due with Canada as plenty of US made pet foods taste like sh.t as far as my cats are concerned. Made to cost formulation may be the culprit here. Some mad cow cases in Canada were suspected to be due to tainted feed from the USA. -mhd >> What other conclusion is there? >>Even Phil P and Steve Crane said that Canada's food production standards [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >lack of cans on the shelves, which indicates a change of manufacturing >suppliers perhaps. Yep, you're right. I went thru the original threads and you pretty much nailed it. Sorry, the whole thing got me worked up. Truth is, the blame goes squarely on the **American** corporate sleaze bag management team in Lowell. >Phil did say that his biggest fear was the manufacturing of Wellness >may revert to cost formulation if OMH chose to go that route. This has [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >-mhd >Yep, you're right. I went thru the original threads and you pretty much >nailed it. Sorry, the whole thing got me worked up. Truth is, the blame >goes squarely on the **American** corporate sleaze bag management team >in Lowell. I think OMH needs to answer some tough questions regarding formulations. If they claim it is ingredient formulated instead of cost then they need to answer why the latest batch appears to be different. Also what is the current dry matter analysis nutrient profile? I don't even buy the product myself but I think some questions need to be asked rather than just blame it on Canada :-) -mhd >>Yep, you're right. I went thru the original threads and you pretty much >>nailed it. Sorry, the whole thing got me worked up. Truth is, the blame [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >-mhd Yup. I believe in equal opportunity grilling. We hold Hill's to very high standards and keep them under the microscope. The same should apply to all the others. Too bad they don't have a rep here on this group to feel the heat :-) eq >>>Yep, you're right. I went thru the original threads and you pretty much >>>nailed it. Sorry, the whole thing got me worked up. Truth is, the blame [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > eq The "heat" is best applied through a significant drop in sales. It is simply not acceptable for something like this to happen *and* for the company to not say anything about it. For me, that speaks volumes about management at OMH. They live in the dark ages and have no concept of the modern notion of customer service. It also says to me that they don't exactly feel the need for full disclosure or to be forthcoming. Personally, I don't like dealing with organizations that appear to operate in that manner. This isn't a commentary on the quality of their food products, but more how they appear to have handled this from a public relations standpoint. >>>>Yep, you're right. I went thru the original threads and you pretty much >>>>nailed it. Sorry, the whole thing got me worked up. Truth is, the blame [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >It is simply not acceptable for something like this to happen *and* for >the company to not say anything about it. My suspicions started back in January(?) on this forum when someone started the thread about OMH being bought out, or sold, or something. I emailed them and got the response back that absolutely nothing had changed, it was all a rumor, and it was business as usual. Several weeks later, they post the info about "expanding" to meet production needs. Then, I ask them for a proximate analysis of their canned foods, and they tell me they'll only supply it to vets. Now, Ivan has persistent diarrhea since January, when I finally got Floppy to eat canned food, and switched them all over. No big deal, it finally occurred to me after a few $$$ in vet bills that he's intolerant of canned food in general, so no more canned for him. But meanwhile, during this Wellness Chicken shortage, I switched the others over to Wellness Chicken & Fish. They all started getting "looser" stools. And now, this new batch of Wellness Chicken I just got -- the texture is different, there's that oil on top, and they used to absolutely clean the plate, literally. Now, they're wasting almost half of it. Something's not right. >For me, that speaks volumes about management at OMH. They live in the >dark ages and have no concept of the modern notion of customer service. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >food products, but more how they appear to have handled this from a >public relations standpoint. >>>>>Yep, you're right. I went thru the original threads and you pretty much >>>>>nailed it. Sorry, the whole thing got me worked up. Truth is, the blame [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > the plate, literally. Now, they're wasting almost half of it. > Something's not right. Absolutely agreed. Time to get them stabilized on another food if OMB doesn't get their act together on the Wellness soon. I too have a cat whose digestive system is intolerant of canned food yet her senses love it. I finally got her stabilized on SD Chicken & Rice dry about a year ago. No more messing around with the food, and that food is available everywhere. I have been moving around a bit. >>>Yep, you're right. I went thru the original threads and you pretty much >>>nailed it. Sorry, the whole thing got me worked up. Truth is, the blame [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > eq You could email them an invitation. I do know for a fact that Toyota and Mitsubishi anonymously monitor Usenet forums for customer experiences. >>>>Yep, you're right. I went thru the original threads and you pretty much >>>>nailed it. Sorry, the whole thing got me worked up. Truth is, the blame [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >You could email them an invitation. I do know for a fact that Toyota and >Mitsubishi anonymously monitor Usenet forums for customer experiences. I've thought about it, maybe it's worth a try. >>Last week I was able to buy two cases of Wellness 5.5 oz chicken flavor. >>I found out that my cats do like Iams chicken but I would rather they [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >eq Odd, I haven't noticed that with the case I just bought. The cats are gobbling it down more than they ever have. Of course, I stopped feeding them dry food, so that may have something to do with it! >>>Last week I was able to buy two cases of Wellness 5.5 oz chicken flavor. >>>I found out that my cats do like Iams chicken but I would rather they [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Odd, I haven't noticed that with the case I just bought. No oily film on top? The texture isn't coarser, more like Hill's? If anything, this makes me suspect the consistency of their process. My cans are marked W10 08:40 Best by 042808, how 'bout yours? Phil P -- are you reading this? What's your input? eq >The cats are gobbling it down more than they ever have. >Of course, I stopped feeding them dry food, so that may have something >to do with it! <snip> >>>eq >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >anything, this makes me suspect the consistency of their process. My >cans are marked W10 08:40 Best by 042808, how 'bout yours? No film, and I am not sure how it compares to Hill's, as I have never bought Hill's. I notice no difference, other than the cans seem a little harder to open. Code: W9 09:42 BEST BY 050508 btw, which flavors of Hill's do your cats seem to like the most? Mine seem to prefer turkey flavored foods over everything else, so I was thinking about buying a few cans of the Hill's turkey for them. Any suggestions? ><snip> >>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >was thinking about buying a few cans of the Hill's turkey for them. >Any suggestions? They like the Turkey and the Chicken, although one (Floppy) is very fussy and it's very difficult to get him to eat anything but Wellness Chicken. |
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